Weather forecasts showing incorrect information?

The forecasts returned by the API sometimes have incorrect information.

For example, on 2015-08-02 at 9:15pm (21:15), the external weather according to weather.com was about 77 degrees.

The forecast returns illogical data:
- 2015-08-02 20:57
... current temperature 84.9 degrees, (8 degrees off)
... min/max for the day: 64.8 to 81.0 degrees (so how come current is 84.9 if the maximum for the day was 81 degrees?)
- 2015-08-02 21:00 (3 minutes after the data from 20:57)
... current temperature 77.2 degrees (so it is either 84.9 or 77? temperature does not change 8 degrees in 3 minutes)

Any help appreciated.

Here is the info returned by the API

"location": { "timeZoneOffsetMinutes": -480, "timeZone": "America/Los_Angeles", "isDaylightSaving": true, "streetAddress": "", "city": "", "provinceState": "WA", "country": "US", "postalCode": "98074", "phoneNumber": "", "mapCoordinates": "" },

"weather": { "timestamp": "2015-08-03 04:01:13", "weatherStation": "CW:32319",

"forecasts": [
{ "weatherSymbol": 2, "dateTime": "2015-08-02 20:57:06", "condition": "Sunny. Pleasantly warm.", "temperature": 849, "pressure": 1012, "relativeHumidity": 30, "dewpoint": 500, "visibility": 16000, "windSpeed": 9000, "windGust": -5002, "windDirection": "N", "windBearing": 0, "pop": 22, "tempHigh": 810, "tempLow": 648, "sky": 1 },
{ "weatherSymbol": 5, "dateTime": "2015-08-03 20:57:06", "condition": "Light showers. Mostly sunny. Warm.", "temperature": 729, "pressure": 1011, "relativeHumidity": 38, "dewpoint": 518, "visibility": -5002, "windSpeed": 9000, "windGust": -5002, "windDirection": "W", "windBearing": 269, "pop": 22, "tempHigh": 810, "tempLow": 648, "sky": 3 },
{ "weatherSymbol": 1, "dateTime": "2015-08-04 20:57:06", "condition": "Mostly sunny. Warm.", "temperature": 688, "pressure": 1012, "relativeHumidity": 44, "dewpoint": 515, "visibility": -5002, "windSpeed": 9000, "windGust": -5002, "windDirection": "W", "windBearing": 248, "pop": 19, "tempHigh": 770, "tempLow": 606, "sky": 3 },
{ "weatherSymbol": 2, "dateTime": "2015-08-05 20:57:06", "condition": "a mixture of sun and clouds. Mild.", "temperature": 665, "pressure": 1016, "relativeHumidity": 45, "dewpoint": 505, "visibility": -5002, "windSpeed": 9000, "windGust": -5002, "windDirection": "W", "windBearing": 256, "pop": 12, "tempHigh": 748, "tempLow": 583, "sky": 11 },
{ "weatherSymbol": 8, "dateTime": "2015-08-06 20:57:06", "condition": "Sprinkles late. Cloudy. Mild.", "temperature": 672, "pressure": 1018, "relativeHumidity": 49, "dewpoint": 523, "visibility": -5002, "windSpeed": 10000, "windGust": -5002, "windDirection": "W", "windBearing": 268, "pop": 26, "tempHigh": 743, "tempLow": 601, "sky": 17 },
{ "weatherSymbol": 0, "dateTime": "2015-08-02 21:00:00", "condition": "Sunny. Warm.", "temperature": 772, "pressure": -5002, "relativeHumidity": 42, "dewpoint": 522, "visibility": 15000, "windSpeed": 8000, "windGust": -5002, "windDirection": "N", "windBearing": 3, "pop": 0, "tempHigh": -5002, "tempLow": -5002, "sky": 1 },

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  • Everyone keep in mind that "the ecobee" isn't wrong, it's their weather data provider so lobby ecobee to change it instead of reporting the shit data here on the developer thread where nothing can be done.

    I have my own high-accuracy weather sensors in my backyard (only temp, humidity, sun intensity and angle) and I'm developing my own app for the ecobee.
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  • Is this thread where we can talk about allowing someone to use there own temp sensor? Or select there own source for weather info ? Or ask them to make a external outside temp sensor we can buy ?
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  • At a conference I once asked - because the ecobee can read its own remote sensors already, what if one sensor was placed outdoors and the software in the thermostat simply used it as "outdoor" temp - little radio button on the UI could show "(*) Outdoor"... and if the reading failed, use the Custom Weather value as the default.

    The previous tech VP shot the idea down with a long-winded bullshit answer, but now that he's apparently left, maybe ecobee will consider it again - not rocket science since the thermostat only needs to update ONE variable with ONE reading that it can already do!
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  • CSR wasn't helpful at all. All I asked was "where do you get your data from?". Crickets...

    So I dig and figure it out on my own.

    Ecobee3 says 84, myforcast.co (.co, Columbia???) says 96.

    About to return it and advise my son, brother-in-law, daughter DO NOT BUY.

    I have a sensor in my backyard (acurite) my son has AcuRite Pro on wunderground etc less than 1 mile away and it reads 94.4.

    Need to give people what they want, either good data from any number of user preferred sources OR THEIR PERSONAL SOURCE!

    Completely unacceptable at any cost.

    Some Chinese group is going to come along and mop the floors. IoT has barely emerged (not that a thermostat even NEEDS any cloud service that may or may not be up and running) and these devices will be $39 on Amazon before you know it.

    Ecobee needs to be open-source, not a device with the hood riveted down.

    Glad it's not my business going down.
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  • That's ok Bee, you should hear my correspondence w/support. I was given misinformation about the dehumidifier behavior. A supervisor told me that the A/C dehumidifier function will only execute when the thermostat is set to a temperature below the ambient temperature, regardless of the overcool setting.

    When I responded that the behavior as they described it makes no sense, the rationale I was given was that users might play with settings and not understand what they mean--so Ecobee is protecting them from getting too cold and effectively ignoring the setting most of the time. I'd asked to speak to the engineering team directly because this supervisor didn't seem to get it. Never heard from them.

    A few days later, I noticed the device's behavior contradicted the reps explanation, and he concurred that he was mistaken, and of course the crazy rationale for the behavior was no longer even applicable.
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  • Glenviewjeff,

    "Ban it, it's for the children!".

    BTW, I asked to speak to a supervisor, "there is none". Might be part of the problem, all indians, no chiefs (never heard of such a thing).

    ;~)>
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