Why are Apple computers more expensive than other computers?

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Is it because they are better?
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also prettier!
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mmm... I am reading this question and wondering if it could start a "little war" between which PC is better...lol... A while back I answered this question in my website. So, let me quote it again:

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“A cheap Dell user asks: Macs are like Ferraris they’re expensive and Extremely Powerful .“

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Was that a question or comment??

Some things you have to consider first:
Your "cheap" Dell...you'll be lucky if it includes Wireless A or B and bluetooth. Last time I checked these were premium and optional, an extra $200. A wide screen adds about another $100 to the price.

Yes, it is true Macs are like Ferraris They are more expensive than your average $499.99 cheap plastic Dell computers.
All Macs nowadays use aircraft quality Aluminum, stainless steel, bullet proof polycarbonate and impact resistant glass.
Another plus to new Macs is that they come with iTunes, iLife (iMove, iPhoto, iDVD, Garage Band and iWeb), Mail, Oxford American Dictionary, iChat, Widgets, Address Book, Automator, Art Directors Tool kit, Omnigraffle, OmniOutliner(usually standard on MBP), Sherloc and Comic Life. All of these are full working programs.
None of that windows computer standard package of "demos and shareware" you are accustomed to get with your new computer. Which most of it will end up deleted from your computer anyway.
On top of all that free software you also get with a Mac: iSight (built in Camera), 24bit Audio both digital (optical) and analog, professional Widescreen with color filters and SyncMaster resolutions, motion and light sensors which makes your mac do cool things, a handy remote control, Wireless B,G and N, Bluetooth 2.0, ExpressCard 34, Firewire 400 and 800, DVI output, The Magsafe safety power plug.
If you want to know more about the features included with a Mac please go here: http://www.apple.com/macbook/

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In short the question that sometimes has to be answered is: "why do people buy Bang & Olufsen products? or Bose? when a cheap "no name brand" will also give you sound..." but whatever the answer the main point is not that one is cheaper than the other but the fact that you have a wide range of product options to choose from and you can decide to buy whatever you want. whatever fits your needs...

BTW:
The last HP laptop I bought cost me $3700 with tax. My MacBook Pro cost me $2990 with tax. So, in this case the Apple machine was cheaper than the HP laptop.
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Why can't I find out what kind of word Processing Program comes with an Apple Computer?
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TextEdit, iWork. But TextWrangler, Office can be installed. I personally enjoy Byword. And all minus Office can be installed from the Mac App Store. Cool :)
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ive used a mac laptop before and i will admit i love how it looks but com-pair it to
a sony viao its got nothing besides look the viao can run faster do a different variety of programs and you can easily get anti virus that is cheap and works it may not have looks but at least it works for everything im trying to do.
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OS X computers don't have multiple hardware manufacturers competing to make cheaper hardware, they single source the hardware from Apple. So it is more expensive. Basic economics.

There was a huge debate within Apple in the late 80s and 90s about whether to license the Mac OS to others. They started to, and had one other manufacturer making Macs. Steve Jobs shut it down when he returned to Apple.
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I did not know that, Tim! Thanks for sharing. Well, it wasn't in Steve's plans letting others touch his little piece of art!

Unlike PCs with Windoze, Mac OS X knows perfectly it's environment as there aren't much varieties. This is one great point of their philosophy: you make sure people who gets a Mac and OS X will have everything running perfectly! And even make additional hardware when you need it! (Like MacBook Pro, supports up to 4 fingers gestures on the trackpad =P).

"People who love to make software, will want to make their own hardware".
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The thing that upsets me the most about Macs is that for about $700, I can build a computer of similar or higher spec. I would do that too, but I love the whole Mac OS X look and functionality and especially the programs that come with it. So it makes me confused, should I save up and buy a Mac or should I just pay $700 and use Vista on a similar spec machine?
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For 750 i built a computer with the same specs as the 2.4 ghz imac that sells for 1600 and installed a hacked version of osx. Same thing, less then half the cost
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For 750 you only got hardware, but not a multi-touch pad, iSight, great display, backlight keyboard, etc... and by performing illegal action (you can't install Mac OS X on a Non-Mac environment, legally speaking). Also you should pay for your OS.
A Macintosh is a computer that just works. Everything makes sense, have a reason to be there, and is really easy to use - yet with greater results. Windows, for me, is just a platform to run some specific apps. Mac is a total different experience (Mac + Mac OS X).
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you can get a great display, great webcam, backlight and keyboard and even better specs than apple. when it comes to laptops, Macs are great but way too expensive.
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they were commenting 2/3 years ago why what they are say was true and mostly still is, chances are to build a computer a with better webcam, display and keyboard and trackpad than a mac would cost more
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Andrew: Well, I hate to say it, but as a person who has used PCs when forced to, but someone who has only ever spent money on Macs... you get what you pay for. I'm sure you've heard that one before!

It all depends on what is important to you. My goal is to get as much of my life as possible onto one laptop computer. I want to pare down my possessions and make my computer the one productivity tool I can't live without. And, I'm succeeding in doing that. As I shed the other possessions in my life and transfer as much of my life as possible to one laptop, that Mac gets even more valuable to me. So, it's entirely worth it to me. I happily pay more because I get an immense amount of personal value out of it.

Plus, if I have to look at an interface all day, I'd rather it be a pretty one.

Oh, and I don't get viruses. And I spend little time troubleshooting. Actually, the list goes on, so I'll cut it short and simply say: Don't knock it until you've tried it.
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The reason why you don't get viruses is because the viruses that infect Windows systems are .exe executable files. .exes can only run in a windows environment, which Mac OS X does not have. There is no way OS X can read .exe files, so they can't exploit your system.

So basically the reason why macs don't "get" viruses is because people don't write viruses for macs. The system is not "immune". Any system can be potentially damaged and exploited by a program.

So you're safe from viruses now, but wait until OS X gets popular enough. Then they'll start writing them.
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The reason why you don't get viruses is because the viruses that infect Windows systems are .exe executable files. .exes can only run in a windows environment, which Mac OS X does not have. There is no way OS X can read .exe files, so they can't exploit your system.

So basically the reason why macs don't "get" viruses is because people don't write viruses for macs. The system is not "immune". Any system can be potentially damaged and exploited by a program.

So you're safe from viruses now, but wait until OS X gets popular enough. Then they'll start writing them.
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Anne... That is but one side of the medal. The other is MacOS being Unix based, semi-open source and simply that much better designed. I'll change my opinion when I actually see a virus that can harm macs.
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Only viruses that result from a user action can actually harm Macs. And even so, there are all of three know exploits, all patched by now. Visiting a web page isn't enough to infect, downloading a file or opening an email attachment is.
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One word: Reliability!
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An excellent answer!
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it's a smaller "boutique" brand and feature extensive and unique brand design that is often imitated by the industry. they do not license out their platform to other mfrs so there's no competition for their computer brand/OS.

they did explore this option some years ago and then yanked it away when exactly that happened - 3rd parties started making cheaper macs. the problem stems from the fact apple wants to be considered a hardware/systems company and they don't want to be an OS vendor - despite the fact that's exactly how micro$hit became god.

even now when apple switched from motorola to intel processors, the rumor mills were amok with hopes and dreams of dual boot macs and running mac OS on PCs and vice versa. that too did not happen.

if apple were to pimp out an OEM OS that could run on other hardware, even if it were a simpler pimpler one, it would smoke windows off the road because it would be more stable and gosh darn it a heck more sexier.

bill gates tried to imitate the ipod (chuckle), gaming consoles (snort) and with vista tried to mimic mac OSX (whoosh) which only had ppl freaking out and wanting to run back to XP. windows has often imitated yet never replicated the innovations that are the mac, any more than disney or anyone else can ever imitate a Pixar movie!
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Mac is neither a hardware nor software company: is both, but as a medium to provide an awesome user experience. People usually compare CPU, graphic card, memory, hd and other parts of a Mac with a PC: this is just wrong!!!. A PC is a computer that lights up when you turn it on. A Macintosh provides a great experience, comes with greatly-built peripherals, a software that respond to even unique peripherals (like the 4 fingers touchpad, the sudden motion sensor or the ambient light sensor, in example).
PCs are still just computers a kid built in it's garage with parts they buy from somewhere, installing any OS on it.
Microsoft would be a serious competitor for Apple if they released a "Microsoft PC": they'd produce the computer, with a specialized windows. Since this is not happening, Windows must be able to handle thousands of different hardware, and since you can't try it on all of them, the chances it's unstable, crashes or do not work properly are high.

 I like the Apple philosophy. They sell the whole package because they wanna do something great.

Sorry for my excessive writing T_T

P.D: LOL @ Zune... it... zucked...
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biased
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Okay guys, i am only gonna say this once and for all.
"Why are mac awesome."

1. Macs might be expensive, hell what, they are much more expensive when you compare them with laptops fro other brands with similar configuration. True. but hear me out, I bought a macbook pro, the price i paid for it, if i had spent the same amount of money on an HP or dell I could have got a much faster processor, better ram, hardware etc. This is also true. BUT when I actually bought the macbook, I realised, how awesome the machine is, Because, of the way everything is simplified and integrated into the machine. I'll give you a heads up.

I agree i compromised on the specifications of the processor,etc, but all of it was compensated when you actually use the machine. Macbook runs better than any other machine in the same price range even when the other machines might have higher specifications.

There is a classiness involved, in the simplicity of this machine. I mean, the bright screen, the amazing display, and you wont feel like its a machine where different parts have been put together, like the cd place is different and screen and keyboard is different etc, you wont feel that, all you feel is one integrated machine, that does everything you expect it to.

The software is seamless, the shutdown time and the startup time,
you can just shut down the lid and forget about shutting down the machine for days, it will automatically turn off the harddrives, you can begin whenever you want.

the camera is so clear, and it just feels like really futureistic , but very simple and it does what you want, there are no stupid schenanigan like uninstalling a software, subscription renewal, antiivirus software etc. just plain and simple use what you want.

I agree with people who feel little weird , coz you know you can get all of it , on a windows based normal laptop also, but there would be something or the other that you would not like about that.

MOST IMPORTANTLY__ BATTERY, my macbooks battery lasts like 6-7 hours, actually,
and usually when you use windows laptops they battery meter might say that you have 2 hours of battery left, but it actually finishes in like 45 mins. But in mac, if the machine says that the battery will last for 4 hours 32 mins, it actually does.

Once you buy a macbook, you will not regret it, but you would feel that i could have got better features for this price, but, in a week or so you will realize what you paid for and you would not feel like using a windows based laptop again.

and there is no need of using external software, for example , you can instal VLC player, MS office, and skype and i dont think you would require any add on softwares, because everything is already built in simply (unless you wnat to use special softwares like photoshop and all)

The machine is designed so well, its made from one single block of aluminium, and you will realise that everything in it and around it are highest quality,
like keys on the keyboard, the screen, trackpad, the rubber under the base of laptop, no stickers. Once you use the machine for about a week or so you will realize that alot of thought has been put into the designing to make it very very user friendly.
And i know , there are people who use specialised software on windows that are not available on mac. I use too, but there is an application called VMWARE, it simply makes another screen where windows 7 is simulated. No need to partition or anything. While runnig OS lion, doing any work on it you can just swipe four fingers on the trackpad and you get the windows screen, as simpply as that.
its so seamless that i played two movies simultaneously on windows (in vm ware) and mac, and i just swiped four fingers to switch between them real time.

I think it is really nice to own one , macbook, although I would be glad if it came cheaper, and If it did become cheaper, i dont think anyone would purchase any other laptop.

thank you, You may reply to me at pranav429@gmail.com
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Why not just be done with it and install Fedora or any other free linux platform on a bunch of hardware barebones gear without having to use some proprietry Java interface designed by Apple(c) Would run similarly and I wouldn't have to pay through the nose for some jacked up label same as why buy Nike's for $300 when I can buy the same typa ruddy sandshoes at Walmart for $7 So what if it's bullet proof, Do I need to run about with a bulletproof sheet of metal in America now, are you guys really that gun crazy? And so what if it's not made of aircraft material, will I be flying in my macbook now???? Plastic is fine on a computer after all thats what most $10 keyboards are made out of and how long do they last? Thats right, years. My Atari 400 is made out of plastic and that still works dudes....

Cheers, hope you had fun reading this, Marty out.....

P.S. And yup, you need to buy Apple Compliant Stuff (ACF) i.e. not as flexible as windoze!!!!
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The problem is, you couldn't pay me enough to use linux and I tried them all. Just compare the mac's boot up and shutdown time with that of linux (or windows, for that matter) and you'll get the picture. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

The point there was that, quality materials are costly. And so are decades of research and innovations. Nothing easier than to "borrow" some idea and sell it for half the price.
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Oh really? Which did you try? Ubuntu happens to load faster than any Mac I have ever used, and Puppy is even faster. And saying 'I have tried them all' is like saying 'I have eaten every recipe for everything in the world'. It's nearly, if not, impossible! There are far too many variations, each with their own permutations. And as for innovations, most of Apples design ideas were stolen from Braun. Look at a Braun product. Looks like Apple made it, huh?
Boot and shutdown time? 35 seconds. That's if I don't touch GRUB. If I were to hit enter, then it would jump down to 20. That's not long at all.
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Responding to Artpulse...seriously? Comparing specs are wrong? Ahhh no wonder you bought a Mac. Obviously you don't know that much about computers and you bought into the hype my friend. Have you checked Gateway or Dells sites and compared the specs vs. the cost? You can even buy an Alienware PC that will kick the $hit out of a top of the line Mac Pro for roughly the same cost and still offer more when it comes to "specs." You can also upgrade them later if you want. PC's are usually 3-6 months ahead when it comes to the specs anyway. As far as the operating system, you may want to check out Vista or Windows 7 because they are solid. Windows 7 rules by the way. Granted there were some problems when Vista first launced but remember, OS X wasn't a perfect launch either. I work in the recording and entertainment industry and I have to tell you my company dropped using Macs. We get more bang for the buck with a PC. Oh, and all the hype about them not crashing...seriously? They do crash and we are finding that they crash and freeze more than the Windoze machines we are using with roughly the same specs. The best part about a Mac crashing, Macs make it nearly imposible to figure out the reasons why. One big reason...the programs don't close, they just sit there and kill the CPU power. As far as the specs are concerned, I need to know how fast my hard drives spin, what type of RAM (DDR2 vs DDR3) what type of processor I'm using...it's imperative to what I do. I am glad, however, that Apple finally stepped up to Intel because their previous processors were crap. As far as Macs being the Ferrari of the computing world, ask yourself...why is it that serious gamers prefer PCs over Macs? If graphics and performace suck on a PC shouldn't Apple have that market share? Gaming on a Mac does indeed ssssuuuuccckkkk. I can go on forever about this but the truth is that Macs are all hype, they are expensive and they limit what you can do with them...but hey they look cool...seriously???
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Wow. I'm sorry but you seem more misinformed than Artpulse. Yes, Macs are comparatively basic to windows computers. But at the same time, macs need less power for two reasons: Since they lock up less than windows computers (Yes, the really do don't lie to yourself) they don't need the processing power to recover from fatal errors like on Vista; Secondly, the OS needs less power, so the computer doesn't need to compensate for a power-hungry operating system. And, concurring with ArtPulse, the fact that PCs are preferred by gamers is simply because of software selection. Since most people have PCs, the game studios make PC games. That does NOT negate the fact that the mac is a better platform. And what do they limit you from doing on Mac? And one last note, can you REALLY tell the difference between a processor running at 2.24 GHz and one running at 2.6 GHz? Or a hard drive at 5400 RPM vs. 7200 RPM? I know that you can't. So stop your bitching and research your "facts" before putting down Macs. Taking things out of context, such as the thing about gamers, does NOT count as a fact. Oh and playing the "Well your OS was bad when it started too" game is also total BS. You know, even if you refuse to admit, that Vista before SP1 was unstable to the point of uselessness. The re-releases of Mac OS X fix glitches, yes. But they are usually either minor security flaws, "fit-and-finish" stuff, or little things like that. They also implement hundreds of new little features to increase the user friendliness in each release. And you can't deny that.
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Please explain what extra hardware there may be in a macbook when compared with a pc.
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Well if you people can't resist mac os x look and want it on pc for free legally you can try ubuntu Linux 10.10 with macbuntu which will give better performance then windows or mac, and yes you won't get any viruses and most of the softwares are open sourced so you don't have pay much, but you can't play games as there are not many games for it (despite the fact you can run windows software & games via Wine or Playonlinux )
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Mykv... specs aren't *everything*. Don't take my word for it - go ask some computer science professor and have them explain to you the layers of computer architecture and their impact on performance yield. While you're at it, ask about algorithms design too. Or read some books before spewing pop nonsense, for crying out loud.

Oh, you think Vista is *solid*? Don't hate me for laughing histerically now. :D

There may be some exceptional conditions when mac will crash, that much is true. Nothing is perfect, aye?

macs come with a system profile and diagnostic tools, so I don't know what you're getting at there.

Serious gamers prefer PCs over macs because game developers are chronically addicted to DirectX. Simple as that. There's also the market share and economic feasibility.

It's one thing to say mac users are buying into a hype and like expensive fashion accessories and whatnot, but another is to actually back it up with some solid arguments.

Navneet... If linux was truly the panacea of computing world as some make it out to be, we'd all be using it.
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Exactly! I wish games are for Mac too. I have a alienware. I hate how every game needs dx and the developers stupidly just use dx. Lazy economics and close minded.
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It would appear that nameless912 (and probably most of you other mac users) is not the kind of user that is pushing his mac-whatever to its throughput limits on a daily basis. While it is true that it is hard to discern the difference between 2.24 and a 2.6GHz processor, to a video editor running Avid Media Composer the difference in spindle RPMs is significant. I have been editing with Avid systems for nearly 20 years, the first half of that time the edit suite was available for Mac systems exclusively... and every day I was pushing that Mac to the very edge of its ability... for the past 10 years I have worked daily on both platforms running Avid software and I can certify that both systems crash with the same frequency... and for the same reasons. Mac users love their Mac, mostly, I have observed, because it is elegant in the design of its interface and its form, but when it comes to function... for the power user at any rate... there is essentially no difference between the systems. That is why production houses are slowly becoming pc/windows facilities as the Macs age out.

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(Avid/Final Cut Pro/DPS Velocity/Discreet/Quantel Editor)
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But there is difference in function. For one, multitasking is rather seamless on macs when compared to other platforms. And if the same software breaks on both systems for the same reason, that's the software manufacturers fault.
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Well, alt088 raises an interesting point. I have a few things to say. First off, my first response was a little out of line, and that is my fault. Anyway, thanks for aknowledging that you can get similar performance CPU wise from a less powerful setup.Also, it is a fair point that spindle speeds can matter to a power user (for example, someone doing video editing) but for a normal user, that doesn't really matter. I've done some powerful programming stuff on a mac using xCode (btw one of the best IDEs I've ever used) and it worked flawlessly. It wasn't even a "high-end" mac. It was a previous-gen white MacBook w/ 2 gigs of ram. And that was more solid than any other IDE I had ever used. I think the important thing to note is that any OS can and will lock up when streched to it's absolute limits, but the diff between OS X and Vista is that it takes a lot more to strech OS X's limits. Also @mykv: Vista? STABLE? HA! Oh one last note: the price difference btwn a mac and, say, a similarly equipped Sony laptop is negligible once you count the software the mac comes with for free.
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Mac are more expensive because they are the only system that offers MAC OS X where as there are loads of windows supporting computers like:

Dell
HP
Acer
Sony
Packard Bell............

all these companys are at war with each other over who can get the lowest price!

eg. If Dell sold a laptop at Apple prices then people wouldnt buy any, instead they would go for cheaper laptop like HP, Acer..........

Where as Apple are the only company that offer Mac OS X and can therefore chare as much as they please!

Who knows why people prefer Mac OS X is a differant question.
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Dell
HP
Acer
Sony
Packard Bell............

All of them swimming in a soup of *mediocrity*.

I'm confused -- doesn't market dictate the price? In other words- no, you can't simply put an arbitrary price tag on something.
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Guys, somebody should help me here! What is the meaning of isight, iweb, etc.
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these are the names of the software products that apple gives with the Mac.
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There are different reasons:

1. Their costs are higher. While others use plastic for their hardware, apple uses stainless steal, aluminum and glass making the costs for production higher. Same with the electronics and other parts.

2. Adding to the costs, apple invests a lot in design. Their design team has top people from the industry. I don't think those industrial designers are cheap.

3. Marketing. For most people, buying a Dell or an HP is a necessity, because they need a computer, but buying an apple is some kind of an accomplishment. They want to keep it that way, because it's really working for them! I've never seen people celebrating that they've got a new Dell Laptop... now I've seen lots of people celebrating that they've got their first Apple computer. That's a great marketing strategy and may be what makes apple so successful.

There's no reason to say that mac computers are better than pcs computers, because at the end of the day, they share the same components. an i7 processor is the same chip on a pc or on a mac, same with memory, hard drive, mother board, graphics card or motherboard. What makes the difference between platforms is the operating system. A clear example would be with linux. You can run linux on any PC and it will perform completely different than windows. Same with a Mac Computer. And if you run Windows on your Mac, you'll see that is the same as running it on a PC. So, what really makes the difference between the platforms isthe operating system.

IMHO, Mac OS X is better than Windows. Apple creates its own hardware so I never have to worry about my software not being compatible with my hardware, and the OS is specially made to run on the computer and viceversa. With windows and MS is not the same case at all. They don't have control over the hardware so what they do is try to make their OS as compatible as possible and then let third parties create drivers and modifications for the OS to work on each particular computer, which brings then all the compatibility issues and whatnot. Also the viruses issues with windows is a big deal. Also, the fact that windows gets slower and slower over time because of the registry seems to me pretty ridiculous. There are more reasons but this is the main ones.

Apple computers are pretty expensive, indeed. If I were able to buy any other computer for half the price, and install Mac OS X in it, i'd never buy an apple computer.
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I agree with 1. and 2. As long as they deliver I'll keep supporting them.
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I was celibrating when I got my hands on an Atari 400, the apple the same as that? Control over the software is not a good thing. However, you should buy a computer that caters for what you want to do with it and not something you will have to pay through the nose for if all you want to do is a little bit of WiFi surfing or youtube. Yeah lets pay $2000 for a machine to check email, Noooo!!!!!!!!
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By all means, don't buy a mac only for such mundane tasks.
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exactly.

You could also say: Yeah let's pay $60,000 for a car to take me to work everyday... Noooo!!!!!!!!!!!

Lexus are expensive cars, and Toyota are cheaper cars. They both have different targets. Well, which one you rather buy? they're both ultimately used for the same thing. you buy the one that fit your needs, your budget and your taste, right? I've never heard of somebody complaining for why Lexus cars have to be so expensive! they are just fancy cars, I'm sick of them being so fancy and expensive!

Every brand has its target, as well as apple. I'm not a target? I move on. I don't understand why people have to complain so much. Is not like I don't have options: choose it or leave it.

I'm not defending apple, I do find their computers very expensive and it hurts my wallet, since I'm an OS X user... I just understand their strategy and I admire how successful it's been.
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so i'm paying extra for a brand is what your saying?
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Pretty much. Think of all the things that you can do on both ends, and how much money you could save. There is no productivity lost in a pc, even when viruses attack it. A smart user knows how to avoid those problems, and keeps their systems up to date. The exception is the mac, for the idiots who cannot do those simple tasks.
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Mac Rocks It an amazing computer. I have a macbook and im 11. Heres what i think mac should ad and/or fix

1. Better Like Making Documents (pages is pretty good, Word is kinda awesome)
2. Different colors for mac
etc. etc.

I personally LOVE mac, but i do like some of the features and different applications on Windows or PC
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Mac Rocks It an amazing computer. I have a macbook and im 11. Heres what i think mac should ad and/or fix

1. Better Like Making Documents (pages is pretty good, Word is kinda awesome)
2. Different colors for mac
etc. etc.

I personally LOVE mac, but i do like some of the features and different applications on Windows or PC
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Sry i replied twice
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i personally would love to own a macintosh computer (yes i said the full name, bite me) but i find them too shiny, too expensive, and too likely to be the first thing stolen. if apple would just cut the shit, they could be selling those all in ones for upwards of 1/8th the original price. seriously, i can understand that they want to make their own parts, good for them, heres a couple suggestions

1: unless im going to be seeing the computer daily, sure, it can look pretty, such as with a macbook, but if all im looking at is the front, or nothing at all, as in the imacs and the mac pro, then cut the bullshit, and give me plastic. the macintosh powerbooks from 99' look really good, and they are plastic, so dont feed me shit about "we have to make it look good!", i want a computer that functions for a price i can afford, not your shiny queefhuffing loud as fuck beast sitting there.(im referring to the imacs, the fans are really loud when they are on)

2: Great, your named after a fruit, i dont want to pay out my ass for royalties and shit of that sort, thanks for the free programs, but i think you can drop the price down a smidge, dont you? i dont want to pay 1100 dollars for something can be compared to a desktop that costs 500 dollars.

3: wonderful, you make your own parts, now your decide to call them something else... what the fuck is a Logicboard? i feel like this is boses 'Accustimass' module bullshit all over again. they are the same thing, give me a fucking break.

4: Ipods are nice, touchscreens are nice, but dont attempt to create things that have such little use that anyone who buys one should be kicked in the balls. i mean the Ipad and the Mac Pro. When in the fuck would i need a notebook that can only do one thing at a time? wheres the fucking logicboard in that? (i did that on purpose) and the mac pro, who the fuck is going to pay 2500 DOLLARS for that fucker? why the fuck would anyone? i just dont understand the logic of having such an inflated pricetag? "but its all nice and arranged inside for easy changing of parts!" Are you fucking retarded, apple, i buy a mac because you say it will last for a long time, so im not going to go and buy fuckloads of accessories at an incredibly inflated price, or in fact buy one of those beasty fucktards at all. i mean, if you are so inept at computing that you cannot possibly stand to root through 3 sets of wires to CHANGE THE FUCKING RAM, GO FUCK YOURSELF AND STAY AWAY FROM ALL COMPUTERS, dont even go into an electronics store.

FRANCISCO SANCHEZ -
1. wonderful idea, lets make it as shiney as possible to allow thieves from a mile away a chance to see our pretty macintosh computers, and on top of that, lets make the consumer pay for our retarded ass assumption that everyone wants something that looks like a polished piece of chrome.
2. my dell computer looks great, and i paid 600 for it, still works and everything, no need to pay through the ass for some queer designers to pretty it up.
3. some big accomplishment, you know how many people brag about owning a mac at our school? fucking none, you know why? not everyone likes looking at a spinning color wheel all the doo da fucking day. know what else? people always brag about the computers they buy that are PC, ive had 3 people in the last 2 years brag about their gaming PC's, hows that make you feel, Mac? me and a friend of mine brag about our NETBOOKS, THEY'RE PORTABLE AND CHEAP, 200 Dollars, bitches, and i have a fully working computer that basically fits in a large pocket.

I will admit, francisco, that you are wrong, macs currently have 8 core processors out, fat lot of good that does them. pc's have six, once again, fat lot of good that does us, because most programs arent good with multithreading.

heres the greatest thing mac could do...

Not rag on pc's so much. those fucking commercials dont help, APPLE, your just showing that your a raging douche machine that only can get anywhere by putting down the competition and getting people who dont know shit to switch to them.

you want the truth, mac? your computers suck, there users suck, and they are all flaming pussies for putting up with your bullshit, you really want to get market-shares, put something out there that isnt limited use bullshit (Mac mini, Imac, Ipod, Ipad) or way out of the league of most people (Macbook Pro, Mac Pro) the only thing youve really done right is the macbook, the good ol' fashioned macbook, and the original Imac, because they arent ridiculously priced and arent made out of overly fucked up materials (Aluminum, impact resistant glass, what the fuck? who needs that?)

Like i said in the beginning, i want one, but only after all the kinks (price, apples bullshit) are ironed out. otherwise its not really worth the metal they are made of.

Good luck to all the assholes who really stick up for apple, enjoy the royal buttfuck by the mega-douche corporation!
=)
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Oh my. You don't understand a lot of things, do you? I blame the educational system. Well at least you can swear a lot.
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I have to disagree. I thought it was a good review- mighty entertaining, and it expresses the rage I feel about Apply fan-boys.
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haha same here, i was laughing reading the whole time....just because someone goes on a rant infernus doesn't mean they aren't educated...i'm about to graduate with a civil engineering degree, and i rant like that occasionally. does that make me uneducated?
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I think you're wrong i mean come on have you ever tried an Apple

All Macs nowadays use aircraft quality Aluminum, stainless steel, bullet proof polycarbonate and impact resistant glass.
Another plus to new Macs is that they come with iTunes, iLife (iMove, iPhoto, iDVD, Garage Band and iWeb), Mail, Oxford American Dictionary, iChat, Widgets, Address Book, Automator, Art Directors Tool kit, Omnigraffle, OmniOutliner(usually standard on MBP), Sherloc and Comic Life. All of these are full working programs. (TY ALEX)
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is there an option to not have these program pre-installed for people that would rarely ever use it? The store.apple.com/us site doesn't seen to have an option like that so far that I can tell, I can only add more stuff.
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Lmao aircraft quality aluminum. It's all the same; tin foil basically and if you buy a mac for that you deserve to go to hell with Steve Jobs.
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Massimo fillichio

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Oh and wanna see apple 4G go to

Gizmodo.com
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Massimo fillichio

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i personally would love to own a macintosh computer (yes i said the full name, bite me) but i find them too shiny, too expensive, and too likely to be the first thing stolen. if apple would just cut the shit, they could be selling those all in ones for upwards of 1/8th the original price. seriously, i can understand that they want to make their own parts, good for them, heres a couple suggestions

1: unless im going to be seeing the computer daily, sure, it can look pretty, such as with a macbook, but if all im looking at is the front, or nothing at all, as in the imacs and the mac pro, then cut the bullshit, and give me plastic. the macintosh powerbooks from 99' look really good, and they are plastic, so dont feed me shit about "we have to make it look good!", i want a computer that functions for a price i can afford, not your shiny queefhuffing loud as fuck beast sitting there.(im referring to the imacs, the fans are really loud when they are on)

2: Great, your named after a fruit, i dont want to pay out my ass for royalties and shit of that sort, thanks for the free programs, but i think you can drop the price down a smidge, dont you? i dont want to pay 1100 dollars for something can be compared to a desktop that costs 500 dollars.

3: wonderful, you make your own parts, now your decide to call them something else... what the fuck is a Logicboard? i feel like this is boses 'Accustimass' module bullshit all over again. they are the same thing, give me a fucking break.

4: Ipods are nice, touchscreens are nice, but dont attempt to create things that have such little use that anyone who buys one should be kicked in the balls. i mean the Ipad and the Mac Pro. When in the fuck would i need a notebook that can only do one thing at a time? wheres the fucking logicboard in that? (i did that on purpose) and the mac pro, who the fuck is going to pay 2500 DOLLARS for that fucker? why the fuck would anyone? i just dont understand the logic of having such an inflated pricetag? "but its all nice and arranged inside for easy changing of parts!" Are you fucking retarded, apple, i buy a mac because you say it will last for a long time, so im not going to go and buy fuckloads of accessories at an incredibly inflated price, or in fact buy one of those beasty fucktards at all. i mean, if you are so inept at computing that you cannot possibly stand to root through 3 sets of wires to CHANGE THE FUCKING RAM, GO FUCK YOURSELF AND STAY AWAY FROM ALL COMPUTERS, dont even go into an electronics store.

FRANCISCO SANCHEZ -
1. wonderful idea, lets make it as shiney as possible to allow thieves from a mile away a chance to see our pretty macintosh computers, and on top of that, lets make the consumer pay for our retarded ass assumption that everyone wants something that looks like a polished piece of chrome.
2. my dell computer looks great, and i paid 600 for it, still works and everything, no need to pay through the ass for some queer designers to pretty it up.
3. some big accomplishment, you know how many people brag about owning a mac at our school? fucking none, you know why? not everyone likes looking at a spinning color wheel all the doo da fucking day. know what else? people always brag about the computers they buy that are PC, ive had 3 people in the last 2 years brag about their gaming PC's, hows that make you feel, Mac? me and a friend of mine brag about our NETBOOKS, THEY'RE PORTABLE AND CHEAP, 200 Dollars, bitches, and i have a fully working computer that basically fits in a large pocket.

I will admit, francisco, that you are wrong, macs currently have 8 core processors out, fat lot of good that does them. pc's have six, once again, fat lot of good that does us, because most programs arent good with multithreading.

heres the greatest thing mac could do...

Not rag on pc's so much. those fucking commercials dont help, APPLE, your just showing that your a raging douche machine that only can get anywhere by putting down the competition and getting people who dont know shit to switch to them.

you want the truth, mac? your computers suck, there users suck, and they are all flaming pussies for putting up with your bullshit, you really want to get market-shares, put something out there that isnt limited use bullshit (Mac mini, Imac, Ipod, Ipad) or way out of the league of most people (Macbook Pro, Mac Pro) the only thing youve really done right is the macbook, the good ol' fashioned macbook, and the original Imac, because they arent ridiculously priced and arent made out of overly fucked up materials (Aluminum, impact resistant glass, what the fuck? who needs that?)

Like i said in the beginning, i want one, but only after all the kinks (price, apples bullshit) are ironed out. otherwise its not really worth the metal they are made of.

Good luck to all the assholes who really stick up for apple, enjoy the royal buttfuck by the mega-douche corporation!
=) EQUALS

BS
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I LOVE this answer!!!! The ONLY thing about a macintosh computer that makes it worth the price they ask for is the operating system! All the rest is style over value. The fancy aluminium cases.. How often do you see a macbook pro without a protective case or wallet.. ALMOST NEVER!! Why? Because the puny case gets scratched too easily! I never felt the need to protect my toshiba laptop shell from scratches. What about the mirror? (I mean the screen). I laughed so much when my friend with a macbook sat down to work next to me with my toshiba. One of us could see what was on their screen, and the other couldn't because there was too much light being reflected from the window! Bwahahahaha!!! As for reliability??? My 3 year old macbook pro has had a GPU failure, has a battery life of about 15 minutes and will not play movie DVDs anymore. My toshiba... you guessed it.. works!! My toshiba, by the way is five years old and running kubuntu, and cost one third the price of the macbook pro. And has a cutting edge UI unlike the stale thing that apple puts out. And I paid precisely NOTHING for any of my software on the toshiba since its all open source and does not prevent me from doing anything I want. Okay, that is not true, each time I install a new version of linux there is a real risk that some piece of hardware that was working fine previously would stop working, and sometimes the developers release code while its still unstable. But having acknowledged that, my mac was accessing my scanner fine in tiger, then couldn't when I upgraded to leopard until I had spend months trawling the internet for a fix.
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Have you even used a MacBook? If you haven't then you should just be quiet ... No offense.
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Have you ever put a pc next to a mac?..No offense
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Have you ever tried to make a 1 hour movie with heavy editing on a PC without it crashing? No offense.
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Okay, i'm going to answer these specific comments in order:
Massimo, your a stupid apple faggot whose only true rebuttal is a copy paste with "EQUALS BS"
Your the reason Steve Jobs died so young, go fuck yourself if you cannot come up with a valid argument back.
Freedunkan:
Your comment makes no sense. I love my PC, and it has more power than most macs. The kicker? its 700 dollars in parts. BADDA BOOM
Keedrin:
Have you?
I have, its easy. It's the PROGRAM that sucks. Or, alternatively, you completely blew off the specs required or specs reccomended (or both) and downloaded it on what i assume to be from 1992, because you appear to be stupid enough to try.
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The person who replied above other people who haven't even used one can't say crap because you haven't had the experience with one. I was a PC user before but I was fed up with the constant crashes and freezes. As soon as I got my MacBook Pro, I NEVER regreted switching at all. Nor did I even look back.
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TextEdit is way better than Notepad.
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Pay 3-4 times (like $200x4 = $800 for a crappy mac) for "textedit" over notepad when you could get some free word processor on the pc. Great idea.
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"Crappy Mac". Sounds like someone's broke from blowing their money on Ice Cream Sammiches.
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Keedrin: Im sorry your arguments are so easy to derail that your only response is to insult the person. I have every right to insult you because your wrong.

As for you, Freedunkan. Pardon my earlier comment, unless you declare sides, it is difficult to tell who is on what side.
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i don't understand all this 'pc crashing' i have used a pc since i was first able to USE a computer, over 15 years now, and i have NEVER had stability problems. not. once. i've even build my own computer now, put together all the parts and such, and let me tell you, i build basically the most powerful pc i could, and it was cheaper then most macs. and my computer is much, MUCH more powerful than macs. Win.