I’m cautiously optimistic

Twitter indexing doesn't, so provide alternative

This business of casting entries into the wind, especially at busy times, has got to stop. A newbie and instant addict, I came this close to quitting out of sheer frustration when a dozen of my tweets were ignored for the third day in a row.

Would it be possible to provide an optional alternative to tweeting an entry? I'm thinking of a single text box on the site which accepts entries that either have already been tweeted (duplicates are ignored of course, as are entries that don't have the WoD) or not. The box might have to be augmented by Twitter name and perhaps a password -- that's for you guys to figure out, but however it's done, it would sure make us poor players happy!
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  • I’m anticipating being heard
    I so agree - I actually did quit yesterday, weeping in depressed frustration when I'd wasted 8 hours of my life trying in vain to get my best tweet ever indexed. (So many people RT'd it, it could have been my first winner). Only the sweet kindness of my friends here persuaded me to change my mind.

    So the ability to post direct to the home page would be a boon (it would mean tweets couldn't be RT'd of course, but they could be voted, which probably counts for more).
    • I have gone through exactly the same experiences as Tidd Kidd and the frustration levels at finding (oddly) my better tweets being RT -ed on Tweetdeck or Twitter and not finding them on Artwiculate, would have exploded any -onometer you care to choose. If I am playing to win, I care very much. I rarely give a hoot about winning as Artwiculate offers a whole new world on Twitter that is worth so much more. That does not mean that I DON'T MIND HORRIBLY when my tweets are not indexed. I used to think it was a machiavellian aspect of the game, I now believe it's just a capacity problem. But, when you write something exquisite, or exquisitely funny/clever, whatever in 140 characters it is still an artist's "baby" and who wants to lose that?
      -Kate Downey Kado56
    • I have gone through and am going through the same thing. tweets not getting indexed on artwiculate, then some of them get indexed some don't ..kind of chaotic and frustrating to say the least.
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    Dear Artwiculate,

    Providing an alternative method of submitting entries is so important in order to keep the game going. @MaxRaunchiness, @TiddK, @Nebbisk and other players frequently put together fantastic WOTD entries which do not get indexed or picked up by artwiculate. This is ridiculously unfair especially because as TiddK points out in her topic re: indexing, if we can see it in our timelines, then it obviously exists. Not providing an alternate method of submitting entries almost seems to me like a form of DISCRIMINATION against the players who are unable to get their tweets on the artwiculate site. The above mentioned players have put alot of efforts into their tweets and have also spent an inordinate amount of time just trying to get their tweets on the artwiculate site in the first place. There have been a few times when my tweets didn't get indexed regardless of how many times I tried to repost but I am amongst the lucky players who usually get indexed. This game should NOT be about arbitrary luck, it should reward the merits of truly intelligent and witty people.

    -ultracutebot
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  • I’m happy
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    I actually have found a solution to this problem which accomplishes two objectives. Since I own a large writer's club on Second Life (it's called INKsters), I scripted a version of this game which works like Artwiculate but it is played as a "party game" using open chat and a large virtual display board. I get to ham it up in voice as host, and since I take words from the audience I get to play too. :) I've been using our "Short Poetry Workshop" to beta test the game and tweak the script, and our members love it.

    The objectives? No missed entries, and I get to play this very cool game without spending my whole life on it. ;)

    (If anyone here wants to play this version, contact "Nebbisk Oh" in Second Life and I'll inform you when/where we have the next session.)

    Cheers,
    Nebbisk
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  • I’m anticipating FUN !
    That's really cool Nebbisk! I share your dismay at the amount of time that Artwiculate can take up, not to mention the non-indexing of tweets and the non-counting RT button and the byzantine scoring system ... but I seem to have made friends here almost by accident, so I'm not going to quit just yet.

    Is your SL version at Euro-friendly times? I.e. ending no later than 3PM SLT? If so, then count me in!
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    Dear Artwiculate,

    What has happened (or not happened, rather) with the current WOTD 'erstwhile' is precisely why an alternative method of submitting entries is extremely necessary. I was online most of the day yesterday after 'erstwhile' was announced as WOTD & an unusual amount of players, most of which hardly ever have indexing problems, were not getting indexed by Artwiculate in addition to the few people that almost never get indexed (which is also an unfair problem). Regardless of whether or not the indexing problem originated within Twitter or not, it would make sense to have an alternative way of submitting entries in case of Twitter's over capacity issues. Honestly, I think if you don't you will lose quite a bit more players. I like this game but it's hard keep watching and keep playing when it's obvious extremely good tweets/entries are not being indexed, which pretty much makes playing the game useless if people can't vote for the tweets that they feel deserve accolades.

    -ultracutebot
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    If Artwiculate adds another means for people to submit entries, it would open the game out to people not on Twitter. Could be good.

    It IS frustrating when tweets fall between the Artwiculate and Twitter stools, though It's not been a major problem for me lately. When it was a problem (November ?) I thought I noticed that Artwiculate, even so, was picking up and indexing tweets, though with a very long delay. I think that may still be happening. (I see a number of near duplicates, even today - somnolence.)

    Currently I'm more irritated by the people who retweet in such away that their retweets are picked up as original tweets. (However honourable their intentions, I presume this means they get points and whoever they've retweeted doesn't.) I DO WISH Artwiculate would come clean about how a RT should be made in order to count for scoring. And post that instruction clearly on the Artwiculate front page.
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    Hello

    We've just implemented a new feature to help with missing tweets.

    If you sign-in with Twitter you'll get access to our "Tweet-finder". Simply paste in the URL of the missing tweet and I'll try and find it.

    This hopefully should help when the connection between Artwiculate and Twitter fails.

    We'll continue to work to strengthen this connection and protect against lost tweets. We know Twitter can be frustrating and losing tweets is a real pain. However, we're going to stick with it as the main way of playing Artwiculate.

    Stuart
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