File copy queuing

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Replace the simultaneous file copies of the finder by a file copy queue. So if you launch one copy and then another one, the finder will do both, with is complete non-sense performance wise in most case because it kills performance. So we need a copy queue, that would be much faster. Of course, the best way would be that this queue could be manageable, re-ordable and you could force a queue to start or pause one. Absolutely best way would be to include some heuristic : Small copies first, if copy A only involves HD 1, and copy B only involves HD 2, then they can be done simultaneously. Copy Doubler in the Mac os 7 days was great (but lacked heuristic). This simultaneous copy thing is just marketing fluff and slows us down everyday. I already suggested this to feedback.cocoatech.com, it's now the more popular feature request with 528 votes, but I prefer your approach to transform the finder rather than using another finder. If you start to work on this early, many things could benefit from it, your cut & paste code, zipping could also enter the queue : so we would get the absolutely best performance from hour hardware hardrives, ssd, CD/DVDs and network. It would be the absolute killer feature of TF.
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adam

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Please add this! I'd be grateful for ANY copy queuing abilities.
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keine_Ahnung

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I would really love this feature!
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morbo

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There is an app for windows called teracopy that does exactly this in a very nice way. If i remember correctly, it only queues transfers when there is already a transfer going on on that particular disk. if not it does them simultaneously since it should not influence performance. I hope it helps.

Here is the link btw: http://www.codesector.com/teracopy.php
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Michael Askew

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Yes yes, a thousand times YES! A glance at this page (http://feedback.cocoatech.com/forums/...) will tell you people really really want this feature. I imagine that it'll be pretty hard to do but this would bump the value of TotalFinder by at least $10. (But that doesn't mean you have to charge more; I love awesome stuff that's cheap.)
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Michael Askew

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P.S. I'm asking for just a plain and simple queue for now; that alone would be worth the $15 or more dollars you plan to charge. I love all the other ideas like reordering, pausing, auto-prioritizing small copies and smart automatic detection of copies that can run in parallel without conflicting (though that is borderline impossible when you're dealing with disk images and other bizarre virtual drives like one might encouter with MacFuse), but none of those are essential for me anytime soon.
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steve mclelland

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This would be nice. AND, docked like when x-fering in Chrome or Download StatusBar in Firefox. That would be killer. I hate the way that the finder copy windows float and stacks. End up losing track of them, they hide behind windows, off on the second monitor, etc.
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I agree. OS X file copy setup is crap from start to finish. Needs to be totally redesigned.
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cafardlubrique

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I love the idea to get queuing copies with the finder.
Window's Supercopier ( http://supercopier.sfxteam.org/?q=nod... ) is imho the best solution around to handle copies.
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Would love this also. Coming from the Windows world, I have had this in Total Commander for the last 10 year at least. I don't understand why this is not a basic function of Mac OS/X which is an advanced OS. In fact ideally queues should for input and output. For input that is for batch processing when you don't want to put your computer on its knees, and output should be copying and printing (which as a matter of fact is a copy). There should be the possibility to old a job in the queue and to change job priority within the queue.

This may not be in the scope of FT (I'm not a Mac programmer so I don't know how big the effort is for this and maybe Apple should look into this).

An other great feature on the print queue would be the possibility to move a job from one queue to an other queue (say I print on epson and I want to move the job to HP printer). Functions like this have been around on IBM systems for more than 25 year !

I know it is easier to ask than to do the work ...

An idea may be to do a small piece of code outside of FT and pass the task to the small piece of code for execution. Hope it does not sound crazy.

Regards,

Yverof
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I found someone who works on a project:

http://ultracopier.first-world.info/
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Lorenzo Orlandi, Champion

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Someone else suggested this project in some other thread, but I feel that stuff is WAY too complicated for TotalFinder... I feel if some queuing ability should ever make its way into TF, it should be something as simple as pausing and resuming copies in a simple queue :)
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yverof

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I undersand it is not in the scope of TF. However just a simple (to start with) queue as you suggested pause/resume) would already be giant step.
Thanks , Yverof
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I would think that the functionality is well outside Finder and probably best left to something like this. There have been a few apps to do such things over the years but all were not hijacking Finder's existing functionality but basically used instead of, like how a service or contextual menu would work
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It would be very nice to also have some kind of idea of current throughput on the copy operation as well. Pathfinder does that, and it is pretty nice, but I'm not looking for a finder replacement, just more 'inbuilt' features within TF that addresses all of Finder's shortcomings.

Thanks for any consideration!
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Just like super-copier2 on windows : a file spooler will be great on Total Finder.

A system that check if everything is clear before copying/moving : permissions, disk space, conflicts,...
That kept a history in order to made a rollback or check for errors
The copy process should be paused, undo, the file list could be reordered, items could be added/deleted.
A the end of the copy, transfer errors should be analysed, with a possibility to be modified and ran again,...
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I've been using SuperCopier2 for Windows for many years and while it is no longer under active development it has the best set of option for a file copy queue tool that I have seen. The ability to sort the list, pause, resume, skip, add files to the list and change the destination and copy/move mode on the fly. I know TF is never likely to have all these features but a simple queue with a pause/add function would be nice to start with.
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TeraCopy (http://www.codesector.com/teracopy.php) is an excellent copy/move manager for Windows that allows for transfers to be interrupted and then continued among many other features.

Too many times has a drive disconnected, or some error occurred, and I've lost progress on multiple transfers. Please save us from this preventable nightmare!
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yes please, nice idea
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chelms

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Looking for this feature for ages! together with folder merging instead of replacing!
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folder merging -- great idea!
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bee

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yes yes yes folder merging ... like windows does, or even Linux with "cp -r"
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Yes, copy queue and folder merging are my #1 requests for TotalFinder...thx!
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Awesome!
Vote for this on the taskforce homepage:
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view... (already more votes)
http://www.windows7taskforce.com/view... (improved design)

Thanks, Jonas
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sorry to add again same post ... just do like Total Commander on Windows, it will do the job and be enough for 90% of us I believe.
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andy

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This must be done. Finder without this feature is a housewife stuff.
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hamish.niven

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shame andy, its a superb tool and missing something makes it "housewife stuff"
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ykeerkens

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This should be the next upgrade!
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Michael Askew

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Really could have used this today. At least I know it's coming.

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bee

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Oh, what a pain !!!! ;)
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Antoine Baggio

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Like me transferring movies to a friend's drive...
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chelms

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i had a screen similar like this the other day
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Yes, I miss this from the classic CopyDoubler days as well, file copying on OS X seems prehistoric! Pausing and re-ordering individual copies would be great.

Also a preference for what to do when a copy process comes across a file of the same name: replace the item, don't replace the item (but copy everything else), replace the item only if newer. (This is also related to folder merging.)

This would also work very well with the the current cut-and-paste idea... i.e. if a queued copy was initiated with the cut-and-paste function, it would be a move... and then the space on the source volume would be available for a subsequently queued copy or move TO that volume volume. That would be great because sometimes the reason you're moving files off a volume in the first place is to free up space for other files you want to move to that volume.

The link above to ultracopier is interesting. Yes, the implementation is way too complicated. But it looks like the "engine" there might do what we're looking for. It needs to be wrapped into a "consumer friendly" (and Mac friendly!) interface. I wonder if, instead of reinventing the wheel, maybe the TotalFinder author could incorporate the UltraCopier code into the TF design. There could be, for example, a TotalFinder for $15 and TotalFinder Pro for $25 that would add the copy queueing functionality, and the extra $10 could be split between the two authors. Or something along those lines.
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Good idea. I'm fed up with simultaneous copies that slow down and poison my drive. I don't understand why the basic Finder of Mac os X "the most powerful system of the world ( o ) (yes it's an ass)" didn't implement it.
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YES!
Pause copy/move and que would be GREAT!