Move files and folders with cut & paste

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I miss the command to move files and folders with CMD+X (cut) and CMD+V (past).
Or through the Edit menu or context menu (Cut and Past options).
Sorry the bad english.
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Gunnar Hermansson

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Just in case anyone doesn't know, copy & paste works fine when you want to copy a file. But I think, cut & paste for moving is so much more useful.
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pelle

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Yes, indeed. Spring loaded folders isn't as comfortable as good old cut'n'paste.
I guess handling files and folder may be outside the scope of what totalfinder can do (fade out icons, to indicate they are "cut" (only til pasted) etc)?
Personally, the model pathfinder uses to emulate cut'n'paste is more than enough for me (the stack thing they use in the sidebar).
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Yes, and if could be a shortcut key for moving a file/folder to another window (like in old norton commander) will be perfect. I really miss this function on mac.
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I'd really like to have a cut option as in windows explorer, nautilus, dolphin etc.

And I personally don't think that it's necessary to fade out icons/make them transparent. So if it's not possible then this is OK for me.
But as folders and files can get a custom icon by pasting an image into the icons view of the info dialog (cmd-i), it should also be possible to overlay the cut file with some kind of scissors/cut icon. This is stored in the resource fork (._filename). The paste then simply doesn't have to copy this resource fork and the icon will be gone on the new location.

The important part here is to deactivate the totalfinder's cut functionality if finder is in "renaming mode". If you are about to rename a file, then cmd-x should just cut the selected text of the filename, not the file itself.
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redswill

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Check out moveAddict.
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i believe people would prefer not download excess application if they could have it natively on totalfinder.
i know i do.
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Mike Schinkel

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@redswill: THANK YOU!
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Etienne M.

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@redswill: Nice but a bit expansive just for cut and paste...
Would be great if TotalFinder had this feature too :)
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Mike Schinkel

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@Etienne M. $5 is expensive for software for one of the most expensive computers on the market, one costing $1000 to $3000 or more?

You do realize at $5 each the developer will likely never make more than beer money for all their effort to develop, package, market and support this, right?

Heck, I'd happily pay $10 as a thank you for his/her efforts.

You were kidding, right?
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@Mike Schinkel: Because Mac computers are some of the most expensive computers on the market, I think that cut and paste should be Finder native, but this is another debate.
Of course I thank the developer of moveAddict, he did a great job.
But as you said, 5$ is beer money. So why not doing this as an open-source / GNU / donate project instead?
So no, I was not kidding. Sorry :)
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@Etienne M. Yes Apple should, but that's not the point at all (Apple is a huge PITA, but that's another subject entirely.) So since $5 is beer money he/she should instead charge $50 and then he/she wouldn't need to donate to open source because it wouldn't be just beer money? Or is what you are saying simply that rather than bother you to pay $5 you think he/she should work for free so you can benefit? Meh. I'm as big a believer in the value of open source as anyone, but I don't think anyone should dictate that another's work be open source; it's a choice, not a requirement. Just remember, karma can be a bitch.
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Etienne M.

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I don't dictate, I just don't buy.
But once again the moveAddict developer did a great work.
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Tamriel

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Just tried out moveAddict. It's really great! Thank you very much, redswill!
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Claudio Bredfeldt

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moveAddict is really nice, but it only can cut 1 folder or file at the time... that's sad.
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nvm... you can cut as many files/folders you want with the full version. Fair for me.
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Simon Perdrisat

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I like and already bought moveadcit. But I think it would be nice to have this feature in TotalFinder instead of the need of two aps. I'm not for super big application but this is really a small feature.

Perhaps the two dev can cooperate?
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Very important option. One of the most wanted options for MacOs and, of course, the biggest reason to buy the app. It should work like in Windows.
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its total rubbish that mac OSX cannot cut and paste natively. what where the developers thinking when they ommited this essential feature. also i think it would be nice to have native support for ntfs reading and writing. also total rubbish that its not included in the native mac OSX. you need to get third party software such as Tuxera NTFS to do simple stuff like this. otherwise a Mac is ok, except for the fact i am constantly having problems changing my mouse batteries...
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Guus Ten Brink

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I already use MoveAddict for this, but when it can be implemented in TotalFinder it would be great!
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I think Apple removed the cut option not without purpose. There are lots of situations, when cutting files with CMD pressed, causes problems. So i prefer to lower the risks and get reinsured by simply copying and then deleting from source.

But surely you can add this option to TF. It would be great.
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Lower the risks? That's what undo is for. On Windows, I moved files. On the Mac I end up with tons of duplicate files cluttering my hard disk when I'm in a hurry and don't have time to go back to delete them. So which O/S is actually easier to use?
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First of all, i recommend to not be so flat in your judgements. If you are always in hurry, just calm down. It is not a good idea to make one deal and think of another at the same time.
Second, cmd button is always at your command.
Third, i see you wanna hear some real problems. Hear they are:
— in column view mode it is not safe to cut files from one folder to another;
— it is not safe to cut from/to removable drive;
— Electricity may switch off;
— System may suddenly shut down

Files just disappear in that cases without any chance to restore.

If you have ever restored your files from the defective disk, you will understand what i mean. I always backup my files and have 1 clone of each drive.
Yes, i use cut option from time to time, but only when i realize i can download this file once again and it won't be much headache.

I understand your reaction. I was confused too when i switched to mac, like: “oh f@#k, no cut! Damned marketeers-sectarian”. Just wanna say that this option should be used at your own risk both in OSX and in Windows a fortiori.
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Files disappear? Yet another problem with Mac, evidently. Never had that problem for 10+ years working with Windows, then I switched to Mac 1.5 years ago and have had nothing but these many tiny headaches.
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extensor32

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@ Mike, as a switcher I can say you are correct the Mac has tiny headaches as nothing is perfect, however Windows has major headaches of which we are all aware.
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Mike Schinkel

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@extensor32 - Yes Windows has it's issues, but in many ways it's UI is more polished and more usable than the Mac. For example, the keyboard shortcut support on the Mac is abysmal compared to on Windows (yes the Mac has centralized keyboard shortcuts but there are far too many things that don't have keyboard shortcuts; most apps just don't have them for example on dialog box buttons.) What Windows does *not* have is a legion of apologists who attack anyone who offers legitimate criticism.

I criticize in hopes to see it become more usable. I *want* to like OS X better, and I have a documented many of the specific issues that cause the most difficulty. If Apple were to address these issues then the Mac would blow Windows out of the water and almost all could be addressed without affecting "least common denominator" users that everyone screams about the need for the Mac to protect.

Actually, TotalFinder could address some of these issues but sadly it seems like he doesn't have the bandwidth to do very much more than what he's already done.
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@ Mike, I've been using Windows since 3.1 and can honestly say that jumping to OS X was like escaping from jail. Just my experience.
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extensor32

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@ Mike, I've been using Windows since 3.1 and can honestly say that jumping to OS X was like escaping from jail. Just my experience.
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Mike Schinkel

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@extensor32 There are many different types of users and many different skills levels. In broad sweeping generalizations the Mac is better for beginning users, creatives (designers, etc.) and hard-core command line Unix hacks. Windows is much better for power GUI users and I happen to be the latter with over 20 years computer experience. The sad thing is, and why I write, the Mac could be better than Windows for power GUI users if it weren't for Apple's stubborn unwillingness to learn from those aspects of Windows which are in fact much better. And it's those things that frustrate me practically every hour of every day while I am using the Mac.
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@extensor32 There are many different types of users and many different skills levels. In broad sweeping generalizations the Mac is better for beginning users, creatives (designers, etc.) and hard-core command line Unix hacks. Windows is much better for power GUI users and I happen to be the latter with over 20 years computer experience. The sad thing is, and why I write, the Mac could be better than Windows for power GUI users if it weren't for Apple's stubborn unwillingness to learn from those aspects of Windows which are in fact much better. And it's those things that frustrate me practically every hour of every day while I am using the Mac.
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There are many different types of users? I thought I was the only one! LOL :) Sorry but I only speak for myself, unlike others. I have over 30 years computer experience but I don't see what that proves. I guess you just like to see yourself type. I've got a game to get out so i'll exit now. Bye everyone!
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Mike Schinkel

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Well if I like to see myself type at least I've found another in @extensor32 who likes the same.
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Mike Schinkel

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Well if I like to see myself type at least I've found another in @extensor32 who likes the same.
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In Windows there is another problem: when you're cutting files and cancels in the middle of operation, some part of files copies to the destination and some stays on the source.
I deal with computers from 6 y.o. And can surely declaim: it won't take so much time to solve all tiny problems, as it would in Windows.
Just a little patience and reasonableness.
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Mike Schinkel

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And I deal with computers since the Apple II+CPM (since before the first PC), around 1982-83. If you want to speak of reasonableness, look in the mirror. What works for you doesn't work for everyone else.
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Drag-and-move on OS X works as expected (i.e. rolls back if cancelled), so this wouldn't be a problem with a cut shortcut.
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In Windows, it is a wonderful app to copy files: SuperCopier (or TeraCopy). It gives a lot of possibilities:
-Transfer recovery,
-Copy-speed calculation and control
-Improved display copy progress,
-Copy list editable while copying,
-The list of backup / loading,
-an error log
It is also possible to merge folder and select the operation to do (replace all replace, rename, rename all, replace, replace all). We copy a folder in another you have the choice to replace any files or merge them ....
I come from Windows world, and these features really miss on OSX.

There is a project that tries to implement these functionalities (ultracopier), but the integration with the finder is virtually nonexistent ... Cons by the developers are very open to share information ... (http://ultracopier-fr.first-world.info/)

The resuming function solve lots of problems...
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YES! I would also love to see these nice features (copy info from TeraCopy) integrated within this app. Oh man, please please pleaaaaaaase!
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+1 for merge option when pasting files (or anytime moving files)
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The english website: http://ultracopier.first-world.info/
The perfect integration under Mac and the finder should be done into the 0.3 version if have suffisant donnations.
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Great idea!
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Don't wanna be rude and not in the case of advert, but Path Finder has all of the needed features you mentioned above and even more, very flexible app. So what this discussion is all for? Make TF more similar to habitual apps like Total commander, or just add tabs and “folders up” abilities?
What is the unique face of this app?

But yes, i stay for adding cut feature too )))
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Path Finder doesn't integrate into the OS and can't properly replace Finder. They claim it can but it really can't.
That's why TotalFinder is so awesome and the more optional features that are added into it the better imo.
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Mike Schinkel

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+1 to @maxwellhibbert's comment.
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path finder sucks ass, it's bloatware, TF is way better.
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hello to all, I'm new here and this is my first post. I two second the idea of hot keys for copying or moving files between windows. This is how it was done on norton commander as someone pointed it, and it is also used in the infamous Total Commander on windows (or servant salamander :) ). I even downloaded
Total Commander and run it under Crossover to get easy access to file manipulation on the Mac as the finder is very poor in term of functions. I ordered Mac OS/X Disk Order which looked promising and has the hot key approach for file transfer, but OS/X keys definition take over Disk Order ones so if you key F5 for copy you're back to F5 in OS/X (light).
So I would really love to see this in TF. Once you used it, you just can't do without it.
Thanks for a great program.

Yverof
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I use MuCommander when I don't have access to a better option (TotalCommander or Krusader). It's a Java app, but still much better than Total Commander + Crossover.
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lucian.branescu

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I use MuCommander when I don't have access to a better option (TotalCommander or Krusader). It's a Java app, but still much better than Total Commander + Crossover.