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Jeep Liberty Diesel Problems after Repair

I recently got my Liberty Diesel back after a warrantied issue was fixed. The car sat on the dealership lot for just over 2 months. After getting it back my cd player wasn't working and with a few days my check engine light came on.

The dealership said there is nothing they can do about the CD player.

As for the Check Engine Light they told me I need a EGR Valve and a Flow Control Valve to fix the problem.

adding up all those issues, which I didn't have before giving them the car is $1800 in repairs.
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  • I’m angry
    Also the car only has 25,700 miles on it. However, the bumper to bumper warranty has expired beyond the 3 years.
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  • Certainly I'm sorry to hear about this. If you're willing to provide me with the last eight characters of your vehicle identification number (VIN), I would be happy to look into this for you. I also need to know the name of the dealership involved.
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  • Last 8 digits of the VIN are: 5W500168.

    Dealership that I bought the vehicle from and that worked on it is:

    Dulles Auto

    107 Catoctin Cir SE
    Leesburg, VA 20175
    Sales:888-857-2115
    serviceService:703-669-6000
    partsParts:800-394-5337

    Any help is appreciated.
    The fact I have more repairs and costs after they had the vehicle sitting in their possession for 2 months seems crazy. That and the low miles just doesn't seem right.

    Thank you.
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  • Was there any resolution to this problem Chryslerlistens/lapjr? I have a 2006 CRD with the same engine codes and the same diagnosis from the dealership. Before I shell out $1,200-$1,400 for repairs, I'd like to know that it will fix the issue and that I won't be one of the internet's several people who have replaced these components 3+ times!
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  • Yes, replacing the EGR and Flow Control Valve (FCV) did fix the codes and Check Engine Light (CEL). The question is if it will be a long term or short term fix. It seems people who have this problem seem to have it re-occur. That is what I have read anyway.
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  • I’m pissed
    I just took my 2006 crd to the dealer because I was getting the same codes. They told me it was a computer problem so they replaced it. When I picked it up today, the check engine light was back on. They took it back into the shop and told me they had the code back. Now, my cruise control does not work and I have to take it back. Needless to say, I am not happy right now.
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  • I’m frustrated and MAD
    The Jeep Liberty Diesel has a design problem that they can not be fixed. I have replace six EGR values and have had the whole thing (EGR, Well and all)replace and still the light comes on. They have told me to run the car at least once a week at 65 + miles per hour for 30 to 45 minutes straight to heat up the engine. This still has not resolved the problem. My cruise control has also stop working. This car is a LEMON and Chrysler knows it!!!!!!
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  • i have the same bad EGR values six times seems to be short term fix to get off the warranty then its are problem i am trying to get the next one now been waiting to hear from chrysler 3 weeks now jeep has 78,000 miles now
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  • I’m frustrated
    my 06 liberty crd just came up with the check engine light and giving me power issues. I have no clue where to start. I was told the code says to replace the egr valve. Will this help?
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  • I’m disatisfied with Chryslers saying they are unaware of this problem
    I had this problem of lack of power and the engine light being on at approx. 45,000 Km. The dealership diagnosed the ERG valve as the problem. They replaced it under warranty and the results were satisfactory. At 63,000 Km. it happened again. This time I was out of warranty and the dealership quoted me $3,300.00 to repair it. I complained to Chrysler but their Customer Service person said they were unaware of a reoccurring problem with the ERG valve. I took it to an aftermarket repair shop and had a Mopar ERG valve installed for $920.00. It is working satisfactory. I am concerned that this will continue to happen. I found over 100 complaints of this problem on the Barret Jackson sight. It also suggested ways of bypass it the valve but that would cause the Engine problem light to remain on and not warn of other problems.
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  • I’m disatisfied with Chryslers saying they are unaware of this problem
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  • do you know thw best way to bypass the egr problem or were i can source this info , thinking just cap the egr port ..but concerned the computer will sense this try to adjust the engine to compensate...dealer says egr is defective &i just changed it .. also how do you reset the engine lite sensor ? regards alan
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  • I’m frustrated
    I understand the EGR valve can be bypassed without affecting performance however the check engine light stays on. Then you no longer have a way of telling if there is a problem.
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  • I guess I will try to find the software to reset the CEL... not going to be easy to find I bet. :-\
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  • hi elliott , would like to bypass the egr regardless , heard somewere that you could have the computer reprogramed & also add more power
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  • Alan,

    Where did you hear about how to bypass the egr? Do you have any details on that? Or any clues on where to find out more?
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  • I’m frustrated
    This is what I have found on line:
    #100 of 109
    Re: Liberty CRD EGR valve bypass or delete? [mwweim] by mtb_tdi
    Oct 28, 2008 (8:44 am)

    Replying to: mwweim (Jul 07, 2007 9:03 pm)
    I have an 06 CRD with the EGR blocked off and no CEL. I had Charlie at KermaTDI.com flash my ECU with a tune that he developed at my request. I requested that he disable the egr.

    I made a simple block of plate and inserted it between the EGR valve and the pipe that comes from the exhaust. I can very simply undo this and take it back to the dealer by flashing my ECU back to stock and removing my block off plate, 15 minutes tops!! The EGR is confirmed non functioning via the block off plate and no CEL.

    I have confirmed that the tune eliminates the CEL by flashing my ECU back to stock and leaving the block off plate in place. Every time that I have done that, I got a CEL! I just wanted to offer a simple solution to the EGR. I know that there is the SEGR kit, but that requires splicing the wiring harness, which I didn't want to do.

    This solution may allow those that have a dead egr to not spend $700 to fix it. They can call Charlie at KermaTDI.com and have him flash the ECU and block the thing off!!!.






    #107 of 109
    Summary of EGR data: by willysjeep
    Dec 19, 2008 (4:03 pm)

    At 43,000 miles my EGR valve is going to be replaced. I had some work done at the dealer and after the work heard an intermittent buzzing noise. It sounded like a giant pager. I brought the vehicle back to the dealer and received the bad news. The dealer told me that the valve will be covered by my extended warranty and that I may continue to drive it. Chrysler Corp has known of this problem for some time. This forum goes back to 2006. I looked back over the previous posts for items to assure that I won't have to replace the EGR valve again in the near future. Here's what I've noted. It would be appreciated if other items were added to this list.

    1) Don't use gooky oil. Seems like the Mobil 1 0-W-40 helps prevent EGR problems.

    2) Buy Ultra Low Sulfer fuel. You have to look on the pump to assure that you are getting the ultra low sulfer fuel.

    3) Replace the PCM at the same time as the EGR valve. My problem is that I don't know what the PCM is.

    4) Replace the fuel filter at the same time as the EGR valve.

    5) After the warranty period is up, make a bypass plate for the EGR valve and figure out how to keep the Engine trouble light from being continuously lit by this problem. A software change may be in order and another chip may need to be burned.

    6) Sell the Liberty diesel and go back to a gas engine. (I had a Dodge Dakota for 12 years with very few problems.)

    What important advice did I miss?

    What actually fails on these EGR valves? Can they be cleaned and rebuilt?

    This is a good forum that can provide a lot of useful information.




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  • hello everyone,

    The EGR can be cleaned by soaking it in water with a washing solution for a day. There are a few things you can do to disable the EGR valve. You can either put a plate infront of the EGR like someone said, you can unplug the MAF sensor on top of the air filter box (that will case a CEL for the EGR) or an SEGR kit. Im a member at that forum with lots of good people with Jeep liberty crds. Here the main forum.

    http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3...

    scroll down and click on:

    Liberty CRD...Love that Torque!!!
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  • I’m frustrated
    mitso78 replied to

    Jeep Liberty Diesel Problems after Repair, a problem about Chrysler.

    hello everyone,

    The EGR can be cleaned by soaking it in water with a washing solution for a day. There are a few things you can do to disable the EGR valve. You can either put a plate infront of the EGR like someone said, you can unplug the MAF sensor on top of the air filter box (that will case a CEL for the EGR) or an SEGR kit. Im a member at that forum with lots of good people with Jeep liberty crds. Here the main forum.

    http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3...

    scroll down and click on:

    Liberty CRD...Love that Torque!!!

    My response is:

    I understand that this has been tried.
    What the result was that the EGR valve somly clogged again but this time after one month.
    There is some work involved in removing and replacing so this may not be the best solution if the fix is temporary.
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  • I’m frustrated
    i,m just wondering if the europian 2.8 diesel have same problems? thre are milions 2.8diesel engine not just in liberty model?maybe they have some idea how fix permanently that problem,anybody have idea how conect with some in europe side?
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  • I’m frustrated
    My check engine light is on and my mechanic said the computer is pointing to a problem with the EGR. After reading these posts I'm inclined to ignore it. Has anyone continued driving without replacing the EGR?
    • I had mine replaced in 6 cylinder 2006 CRD. I wondered then about it, and now I really do.
    • I have a 2005 CRD liberty and the cel has been on for around 20000 miles. My mechanic cleaned it back a while ago but the light just came back on soon afterwards. I have no issues with running. I put around 130mi a day and i'm up to 170000 now. Slight loss in fuel milage, went from27 mpg to 24mpg and had a short incident ( five minutes) of black smoke and low power aroung 15000mi ago. Otherwise its good. I'm thinking of changing out the EGR myself. It's been there for 120000 miles now. Just changed timing belt too.
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  • FYI- from Popular Mechanics

    October 1, 2009 12:00 AM

    Okay, as promised here's what we found out from DaimlerChrysler: the regional techs replaced the entire throttle body on the Liberty's little Italian-built 2.8-liter four-cylinder turbodiesel because of either 1. the possibility of temperature swing-induced leakage at the clamping areas, or 2. possible stripped teeth on a motor-driven, spring-loaded air management valve integral with the throttle body.

    We believe that's a fair assessment because 1. No matter how many diagnostic trouble trees a tech completes, sometimes he just has to start thinking past his nose and let his black magic experience take over, and 2. this is the first application of this powertrain in a U.S.-spec Liberty so there are practically no past service issues to draw on. Plus, the Check Engine light is staying off, which likely means they nailed it.

    The EGR valve apparently was never a real issue, but was replaced twice because the engine management system kept spitting out codes that led Manhattan Jeep down that line of diagnostics. Hopefully, they'll know better next time.

    True, we're not strapped for a daily driver the way the typical Jeep Liberty CRD owner might have been under the same circumstances. So it's easier for us to say this was a well-handled, professional service experience. But we also didn't get any special treatment. Sometimes fixing modern cars just isn't that straightforward.--Ken Juran
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  • I’m still frustrated
    Thank you for this information. Next time the Check Engine light comes on and it indicates that the EGR valve needs replacing; I will try to replace the entire throttle body. Will this insure that the possible reason for this happening, items 1 & 2 will not happen and mean that the engine light will once again go on?
    Why did the replacement of the EGR valve cure the Check Engine light and restore the performance? Why did this enable the vehicle to operate satisfactorily again for another 45,000 Km if in fact the problem was caused by something other than the EGR valve becoming clogged?
    Are these problems going to reoccur and necessitate the replacement of the EGR valve again?
    This entire episode makes me realize how Chrysler can stick their head in the sand and get away with not standing behind their product.
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  • Sorry to say that they do not call it a Throttle body on the 2.8. They call it an egr air flow control valve and they only replace it under the emissions warranty. otherwise you have to pay $700 for it. I had one go bad and after having the ball joints replace, the trans pump and torque converter replaced, the erg replaced twice,( I paid for one) then they wanted me to pay for a new fuel filter mount because they designed it wrong and they leak air, and then the EGR air flow control went bad and then the boost pressure sensor kept getting clogged with carbon . Good bye Chrysler and Good by Jeep. You lost a long time customer because you would not stand behind your product.
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    yes i have had similar problems..also my crd is up for timing belt & pulleys , water pump ect...is there a source other then chryler/dodge for the replacment parts ?
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  • Thats one of the problems with the Liberty Diesel, you can only get parts for it from the dealer if they are not used on other chrysler products.They gotcha. sorry. The service manager was a friend of mine and he would buy the parts for me at wholesale. But he could not get and thing under warranty for me.
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  • I just replaced my egr and various other parts at 70,000 miles. My mileage runs 18 in town, 21 to 23 highway max but sometimes lower.

    Question has anyone had the Green Diesel tune to remove the egr from system and get better mileage? Has anyone used other tunes that take out the egr valve and what your long term mileage gain or bad side effects?

    I don't want to spend $500 for a tune that does not save me enough in the long run.
    Roger
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  • I then diasbled it by unplugging sensor, took breather hose from valve cover and ran
    under car so Turbo doesnt get ruined. Eventually putting triple disk Torque converter on and getting ECM retuned. I get over 20 around town right now 148,000 miles
    Rick
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  • EGR sensor has been a recurring issue for me as well. This weekend while out of town, cylinder #2 lost compression, and dealership said there was nothing to be done: Replacing the engine would cost $8K, and that's greater than the value of the car. Trade in and start over.
    Any other suggestions?
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  • I would definitely get a second opinion!!!!!! Maybe from a diesel mechanic familiar with that engine. We have two jeep places near here and I drive 45 miles to one who has a knowledgeable jeep diesel guy. Local shop took three weeks to work on mine.

    Could be something like a blown out valve, piston, injector. Go for a second opinion.

    good luck
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