Channel Line Up with Digital Tuner and No Cable Box

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I can't find any information on my channel lineup from Comcast. I've got a new TV with a digital tuner built into the TV (eg: it receives channels 7-2, 8-1 etc). I don't have this TV hooked up to a cable box. I've got two questions. What is my service level on this TV (is it basic cable?) and What is my channel line up? For the channel line up I'm not looking for channels 2, 3, 4 etc...I'm looking for a iine up that tells me what's on 7-2, 8-3 etc. I'm in 60657.
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Dear Ordguy,

We apologize for any miscommunications you may have had while inquiring about connecting your digital tuner to our services. At this time, the lineup would only include “Basic Tiered & Local HD Channels”. Due to changes that take place more frequently then less, we do not post or offer a “Channel Lineup Guide” at this time.

Regards,
Melissa M.
Comcast Customer Connect
National Customer Operations
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totally hate Comcast. I have had to make numerous calls, continuous runaround, still don't know tha answer to this same question. Talk about poor customer service!
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So to get the digital channels I was getting from the broadcast guys (11.1, 11.2, etc) I have to do what. Are they no longer available? What do the stations say about that? Basically with a DTA I get worse quality picture!!! How do I fix that COMCAST??
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So to get the digital channels I was getting from the broadcast guys (11.1, 11.2, etc) I have to do what. Are they no longer available? What do the stations say about that? Basically with a DTA I get worse quality picture!!! How do I fix that COMCAST??
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One COMCAST guy say I have to use a splitter to be able to use the DTA for channels like TNT, and use the TV tuner for channels like 11.1, using two different remotes. Ala 1990. Amazing!!! I have been a comcast member since 1988. CYA!
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Is there away to get the update channel lineup
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CustomerConnectMelissa TRANSLATION: You are screwed until a third party site catalogs the channels. Comcast refuses to provide decent common sense customer services. They expect you to pay them 20 bucks a month more for a HD cable box with inferior picture quality and constant problems, just so you can know what the channels are. Oh and after you cough up the money, when you use the guide, they can take up screen space for advertisements because they don't think they charge you enough. Just sit down for an hour on a Sunday and write them all down. Yeah it sucks.
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Actually they don't provide a list because they can't. All digital tv's recieve the channels differently. For example CBS might be on channel 3-1 for one brand and channel 117-3 for another. Even different models of the same brand may recieve the shows on different channels.
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REVOLUTION!!! YEAAHH. FINALLY SOMETHING INTERESTING
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Does this mean that there is no specification for assigning digital channels to specific frequencies? Search the web for information to connect your antenna to your digital TV and you will find that each channel is assigned to a specific frequency and bandwidth. All that is necessary is to provide this service consistently is to get a good computer program, put the information in the database, provide a web interface and institute new corporate policies.

Broadband is a word that usually describes the radio signals in a coaxial cable but it is practically no different from broadband radio signals in the atmosphere. FCC has regulated that for years and it is more economical to use those regulations and technical standards than to create proprietary standards with respect to digital TV signals. Because there are such standards, DTV manufacturers are not going to invent new ones just for cable TV, so I sincerely doubt that the fault is with the TV manufacturers.

Comcast is behind the times in using technology to improve customer service in spite of the fact that they are the largest single provider of cable services. Comcast could very well go the way of AT&T, depending on the national political mood.

The issue with Comcast management is that they stand to make big bucks from the equipment rental, pay-per-view, on-demand and sports tiers, so they focus on that. Wired magazine published an arcticle about Comcast some time ago that gives insight into Comcast corporate management. It's good to read that and become more informed.

As for the comment about the splitter, that may not work because what you really want is the device that will join two or more coaxial cables and feed them to your TV while blocking the antenna and other signals from interfering with the Comcast cable signals. These joining devices are in common use and available from dealers in satellite TV equipment.
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this is rapidly becoming moot as Comcast encrypts nearly all channels. You will need a Comcast box to decrypt the channels in order to view on your TV unless you only have the basic tier which provides a few local broadcast channels unencrypted. It will no longer make sense to connect your cable directly to your TV without a Comcast box. Your digital TV tuner becomes useless and the only channel lineup you need to know is the one Comcast assigns for their boxes. If you also want to use an antenna (why when the channels are duplicated on cable?), then it becomes more complicated.
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Just to clear up a muddy statement I made, a splitter will help to split the Comcast cable into two cables, one for the analog box and one for the direct cable connection. This is only true if you have at least two cable connections on your TV. If you have only one cable input on your TV, you will have to find another solution. Over-the-air (OTA) (free) antenna connections should be kept separate from the Comcast cable.

Russell, what you say is conventional wisdom that is currently in fashion. Until that conversion takes place in any particular area, those customers can continue to use the TV converter without the box. When the government instituted the digital TV regulations and standards, the propaganda was that the cable TV providers must provide access to the local channels. Most manufacturers of computers, computer monitors and TVs, as well as the cable service providers, are watching each other to see how media will merge into a standard that will provide better economy for everyone. HD TVs and computer monitors are already interchangeable for all practical purposes. Computers are flexible enough (and inexpensive enough for most) to use to combine the internet network with television. With several cable tuner cards or adapters hooked to a small computer we will be able to combine all the choices (or just the free ones) of media input: cable TV, antennas, internet and satellite.
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In my area all analog channels are gone. Except for the local broadcast stations, infomercial, shopping and public access channels I think all else is supposed to be encrypted by the end of this month or next month. I am waiting and then will scan the channels again and see what I've got. I am connected via Comcast box so I need to make a direct connection to scan. I am thinking of getting the Silicondust network tuner with a Comcast cablecard for use with my computers for DVR functions but I don't want to be the first. I hear on these boards that there is still a lot of confusion on the cable company's part on how they are supposed to handle cablecards.
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Sorry i was wrong try this site. Just type in your zip and you should be good.

http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/...
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Hey thanks for the link amazing. It takes a consumer to publish what we all need the program worked 100%
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Awesome site! This is exactly what I was looking for. I should have known not to even try looking for this on Comcast's site, it makes way too much sense for them to have a digital channel lineup available to their customers. Still waiting for Verizon FiOS to show up in my area.
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Awesome site! This is exactly what I was looking for. I should have known not to even try looking for this on Comcast's site, it makes way too much sense for them to have a digital channel lineup available to their customers. Still waiting for Verizon FiOS to show up in my area.
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that is for over the air digital channels NOT over the cable channels
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oops, sorry, spoke too soon. Did not see the selection box to select your local cable provider.
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I don't understand why I wake up one day and my local NBC station is on 3.1, then the next day it moves to 77.2, then on to 7.1. I am getting dizzy trying to keep up. I run a channel autoscan almost daily on two TV's just to find my regular stations. I called the NBC station and Comcast and both acted like they had no idea what I was talking about. I guess it is all happening by the HDTV fairies. Does anyone have their 800 number?
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It doesn't do any good to call. They just suggest that you get the Comcast box. But yes, it is very frustrating to have to search for your favorite stations every time you re-scan and the numbers have changed for the zillionth time. It's like we're being punished for having built-in DTV tuners.
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Yeah Comcast isnt going to admit anything UNLESS you upgrade to a cable box then they will admit you get TV programs from them.
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73 AMC
79.1 NWCN
79.3 KOMO
79.4 KING
79.5 KONG
79,6 CBUT
79.7 KCTS
79.8 KMYQ
79.9 KSTW
80.5 DISNEY
80.9 ARTS
91.1 ESPN2
91.2 SPEED
91.3 VSHD
91.5 HISTORY
91.6 ABC FAMILY
91.7 NICK
91.8 HALLMARK
91.9 TOON P
92.1 MSNBC
92.2 FOX
92.3 TRUTV
92.4 LIFETIME
92.5 A&E
92.6 FOOD
92.7 TNT
92.8 TBS
92.9 USA
92.10 VH1
99 CBC
102.2 E!
102.3 BRAVO
102.5 FSN
102.6 ESPN
102.7 HG TV
102.9 UWTV
102.10 UW2TV
102.40 MTV2
103.1 BET
103.2 FX

103.3 OXYGEN
103.4 DISCOVERY
103.5 TLC
103.6 SPIKE
103.7 SCI-FI
103.8 AMC
103.9 COMEDY
103.10 MTVHD
107.2 BIO HD
107.3 HISTORYHD
108.4 CSPAN
108.4 CSPAN3
108.5 BLOOMBURG
108.5 BLOOMBURG
112.4 G4
114.12 LMN HD
114.5 PBSHD
116.7 CNNHD
116.8 GOLF
116.82 TLCHD
116.83 TRAVEL
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there you go kids! have a blast and remember....comcast wants your dough.
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I live in Atlanta, GA and my new digital comcast list is;
80.201 ABC 480iSD
80.202 FOX 480iSD
80.203 NBC 480iSD
80.204 Peachtree TV
80.205 GPB
80.206 CBS 480iSD
80.207 CW
80.209 TV49
80.210 myATLtv
80.212 PBA30
81.5 local
81.21 local
81.22 local
81.23 TV23
81.24 COBBedTV
81.25 tv shop
81.26 tv shop
81.27 TV GUIDE
81.32 Weather
82.39 tbs
82.120 msnbc
83.202 LMN
84.1 PRIME
84.2 NBC sport
84.3 JP sport
84.4 History
84.5 SPIKE
84.7 TCM
84.11 Lifetime
84.12 FOOD
84.13 tru
84.22 Bravo
84.54 OXYGEN
85.101 ONE World TSN sport
85.102 FOX NEWS
85.103 ESPN
85.104 ABC family
85.105 TNT
85.106 HGTV
85.107 FX
85.108 ESPN2
85.109 FOX SPORT SOUTH
85.110 CMT
85.111 WGN
93.3 A&E
93.12 VERSUS
93.56 E
93.75 Speed
93.111 Hallmark
98.3 ABC 720p HD
98.248 RTV
98.804 FOX 720p HD
99.500 PAT (Spanish)
99.521 Gran (Spanish)
100.1 E news
100.63 DAY STAR
100.128 Atlanta Homes
100.129 sale
103.101 BET
103.102 adult swim
103.103 COMEDY CENTRAL
103.104 MTV
103.105 DISNEY
103.106 NICK at nite
103.107 Syfy
103.108 AMC
103.109 Discovery
103.110 TLC
103.111 VH1
103.112 USA
104.201 C-SPAN
104.202 C-SPAN2
104.203 Animal Planet
104.204 travel
104.205 tv ne
104.207 CNN LIVE
104.208 Golf
104.203 HSN shop
104.210 avc shop
104.212 HLN
108.10 CBS 1080i HD
108.211 Atlanta Weather
108.245 US sport
108.806 NBC 1080i HD
116.2 Wrestling
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I live in Atlanta, GA and my new digital comcast list is;
80.201 ABC 480iSD
80.202 FOX 480iSD
80.203 NBC 480iSD
80.204 Peachtree TV
80.205 GPB
80.206 CBS 480iSD
80.207 CW
80.209 TV49
80.210 myATLtv
80.212 PBA30
81.5 local
81.21 local
81.22 local
81.23 TV23
81.24 COBBedTV
81.25 tv shop
81.26 tv shop
81.27 TV GUIDE
81.32 Weather
82.39 tbs
82.120 msnbc
83.202 LMN
84.1 PRIME
84.2 NBC sport
84.3 JP sport
84.4 History
84.5 SPIKE
84.7 TCM
84.11 Lifetime
84.12 FOOD
84.13 tru
84.22 Bravo
84.54 OXYGEN
85.101 ONE World TSN sport
85.102 FOX NEWS
85.103 ESPN
85.104 ABC family
85.105 TNT
85.106 HGTV
85.107 FX
85.108 ESPN2
85.109 FOX SPORT SOUTH
85.110 CMT
85.111 WGN
93.3 A&E
93.12 VERSUS
93.56 E
93.75 Speed
93.111 Hallmark
98.3 ABC 720p HD
98.248 RTV
98.804 FOX 720p HD
99.500 PAT (Spanish)
99.521 Gran (Spanish)
100.1 E news
100.63 DAY STAR
100.128 Atlanta Homes
100.129 sale
103.101 BET
103.102 adult swim
103.103 COMEDY CENTRAL
103.104 MTV
103.105 DISNEY
103.106 NICK at nite
103.107 Syfy
103.108 AMC
103.109 Discovery
103.110 TLC
103.111 VH1
103.112 USA
104.201 C-SPAN
104.202 C-SPAN2
104.203 Animal Planet
104.204 travel
104.205 tv ne
104.207 CNN LIVE
104.208 Golf
104.203 HSN shop
104.210 avc shop
104.212 HLN
108.10 CBS 1080i HD
108.211 Atlanta Weather
108.245 US sport
108.806 NBC 1080i HD
116.2 Wrestling
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Find your channel line-up here http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/...
Put in your zip - be sure to select cable as the default is over the air when results show.

Does anyone have updated info on the new HD channels that Comcast is now advertising since cancelling the upper analog channels???
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Here's what I get South of Pittsburgh.
2 C-SPAN
2-1 KDKA - DT
4 Shop NBC
4-1 WTAE DT
4-2 WTAE D2
5 WPCB-40 (Cornerstone TV)
6 KDKA-2 (CBS Pittsburgh)
7 WPGH-53 (FOX Pittsburgh)
8 WTAE-4 (ABC Pittsburgh)
9 WQED-13 (PBS Pittsburgh)
10 WPMY-22 (My Network TV Pittsburgh)
11 FYI
11-1 WPXI-11 (NBC Pittsburgh) - DT
11-2 RETRO TV
12 MSNBC
13 LOCAL COMCAST INFORMATION
13-1 WQED - HD
13-2 WQED-SD
13-3 City Channel Pittsburgh
15 WPCW-19 (CW Pittsburgh)
16 Weather Channel
19 WGN TRIBUNE BROADCAST
20 QVC
22-1 WPMY - DT
22-2601 THE CW
23 TBS
24 MTV
25 USA
26 Nickelodeon
27 ESPN
28 ESPN2
29 Fox Sports Net Pittsburgh
30 Versus
31 Golf Channel
32 CNN
33 CNN Headline News
34 Fox News Channel
35 PCNC
36 CNBC
37 TLC THE LEARNING CHANNEL
38 ABC Family
39 Cartoon Network
40 Disney Channel
41 A&E
42 Lifetime
43 Spike
44 VH1
45 E!
46 History Channel 2
47 AMC
48 PCN
49 Food Network
50 Animal Planet
51 HGTV
52 TNT
53 Turner Classic Movies
53-1 WPGH HD
54 Comedy Central
55 FX
56 BET
57 TV Land
58 Travel Channel
59 style
61 Discovery Channel
69-1 C-SPAN
69-9 HSN
69-10 QVC
73-100 QVC
73-111 TV 14 ???????
78-3 EWTN RELIGION
78-9 BET
79-1 SHOP NBC.COM
79-2 ACLJ TV
79-3 CBS NEWS
79-4 PAID AD
79-5 ABC NEWS
79-6 PBS
79-7 PAID AD
79-8 MSMBC
79-9 THE CW
79-11 PAID AD
80-3 FYI
80-4 WEATHER CHANNEL
80-5 LOCAL AD
80-6 RELIGION
80 -13 TV GUIDE
99 Home Shopping Network
100 - 1411 CHANNEL LINE - UP COMCAST
102 - 1903 DAY STAR
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Hear is the local Tacoma Channels that we have surfed. We didn't take the time to get all of the call letters. Many repeat and some are not availible without the box. Hope this works for others.
I agree that the boxes are a racket and I do not get the HD channels with the box that I do with the TV's internal tunner.
# Station
2 NWCN
3
4 KOMO
4.1 KOMO-HD
4.2 KOMO-SD
5 KING
5.1 KING-HD
5.2 KING-DT
6
7 KIRO
7.1 KIRO-DT
7.2 KIRO-SD
8 Discovery
9 KCTS
9.1 KCTS-HD
9.2 V-ME
9.3 KCTS-DT
9.4 KMYQ
11
11.1 CW11KD
12 KBTC
13 FOX 13
13.1 KCPQ-HD
13.2 FOX Q 13 Forcast
14
15
16 QVC
16.1 KONG-HD
17 HSN
19 Hallmark
20 church
20.1 K7BW
21 Tacoma City
22 UP City
22.1 KMYQ-HD no signal
23 TVW.org?
24 CSPAN
24.1 KBCB
26 PSE TV
27 UWTV
28 CPTC television
28.1 KBTC-SD1
29 ? Spanish
34.1 ESPN
34.2 Speed
34.3 Versus-hunting

34.8 Hallmark
34.9 Cartoon Network
34.10. CNBC
35.1
35.2 FOX News
35.3
35.4 Lifetime
35.5 A&E
35.6 Food
35.7 TNT
35.8 TBS
35.9 USA
35.10. VH1
36.2 E
36.3 Bravo
36.5
36.6 ESPN
36.7 HGTV
36.8 Jewlery TV
36.9 UWTV
36.10.
36.40. MTV-2
37.1 BET
37.2 FX
37.3 Oxygen
37.4 Discovery
37.5
37.6 Spike
37.7 SyFy
37.8 AMC
37.9 Comidy
37.10.
37.11 AMC
38.1 C-SPAN
38.2 C-SPAN2
37.8 Live CNN
38.8 Golf
38.9 HSN
38.10. QVC
38.11 Windows screen??
38.12 HLN? News
38.82 Animal Planet
38.83 Travel
# Station
38.89
51.1 Spanish?
57.2 Indemand Networks HDPPV
60.2
70 need box
76 ARTS
78
79.1 NWCN
79.3 ABC
79.4 KING
79.5 KONG
79.6 CBUT
79.7 KCTS9
79.8 KMYQ2
79.9 KSTW
80.1 KCPQ
80.2 KIRO
80.4 KWDK church
80.5 Disney
80.7 TVW
80.9 KCTS+ ARTS
87.2 ION
88.3
90.332 Jazz - music
90.333 Rock - music
90.334 - music
90.335 Country - music
90.336 audio
90.337 audio
90.338 classical - music
90.339 audio
91.1
91.2
91.3 Versus
91.5
91.6 ABC Family
91.7 NICK
91.8
91.9 Cartoon Network
91.10.
92.1 MSNBC
92.2
92.3 court?
92.4 Lifetime
92.5 A&E
92.6 Food
# Station
92.7 TBS
92.8 TBS
92.9 USA
92.10. VH1
99 24 HR Weather - Canada
102.2
102.3 Bravo
102.5 FSN (sports)
102.6 ESPN
102.7 HGTV
102.8 Jewlery Television
102.9 UWTV
102.10. UW2.TV
102.40. MTV2
103.1 BET
103.2 FX
103.3 Oxygen
103.4 Discovery
103.5 TLC
103.6 Spike
103.7 SyFy
103.8 AMC
103.9 comedy central
103.10. MYV
103.11 CMT
107.2
107.3 History???
107.9 Style
108.4 C-SPAN 3
108.5 Bloomberg?
112.4 G4
112.11 Weather
112.13 E
112.420. audio
112.421 audio
112.422 audio
112.423 audio
112.424 audio
112.425 audio
112.426 audio
114.5 PBS Sprout
114.12
114.485 audio
114.486 audio
114.487 audio
114.488 audio
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Here's the issue. You all are asking the wrong people (Comcast) about OTA TV. It's like bitching at CBS for not providing you with a line up of NBC. Look up OTA TV on the net. I just found all sorts of info about how it works, what the stations are, etc.

I think this site will give you the stations for your area. If somebody tries it, let us know if it worked...

http://www.antennaweb.org/
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Are you retarded? Why would you post some link you haven't even tried to use dumb ass?!

"If somebody tries it, let us know if it worked..."

???
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But this isn't OTA (over the air) the signal is delivered by Comcast. The TV is hooked up to cable, just not using a cable box. Shouldn't they know what channels I can receive and be able to match channel number to networks?
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I got Mediacom here in Iowa and I just brought a hdtv ditatal tv and I catch 3 of the same local channels like pbs,fox,cbs,abc,nbc, My nbc channel is 13, 85-18, and 114-2 I don't understand why I have 3 of them 114-2 is in hd and the other two is standed I guess, I called Mediacom and this lady told me I can't reciving hd channels because I need a box to do that, but I told her I got a hdtv she said well we dont provied the channel without the box, I told her no that not true and I told her I talk to a Mediacom rep b4 I brought tv and she said I need a box or a hdtv she said well I know you need a box not a hdtv so I said well thanks a lot and she said have a nice day and I hang up. so I look on the internet and now im here.
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I have a new digital TV an live in Atlanta an have comcast. Why do I need a box for the TV, even though I only want to see the regular channels.
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This thread pretty much tells the story - COMCAST has removed analog channels and used the bandwidth for digital channels, which take less space, thereby freeing up bandwidth for premium content for which they can charge more money.

In our area (Annapolis, MD) they were allowed to do this despite last year's ads saying that you don't have to worry about having a digital TV if you have Comcast because we'll keep the analog channels ... they were allowed because they agreed to provide 2 cheap digital boxes per household that would convert the digitial back to the corresponding analog channels.

SO ... when they change the digital-to-analog mappings they have some way to "reprogram" these boxes ... and knowing that programming is exactly what the rest of us need to find the digital channel for a specific analog listing.

WE NEED A COMCAST TECHNICIAN to break ranks with the company and tell us where this programming is; or to publish the programming as it changes.

UNFORTUNATELY, www.silicondust.com is not keeping up with the changes - in my area, as of today, the SilconDust listings do not match the digital cable channels. Some do, but many do not.
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PEOPLE .. this is the paradigm shift to the NWO..it starts with useless boxes that dont provide HD (DTA) even though the content is there for you to view by using your built in digital tuner . When i spoke to my comcastic rep.... he stated that the sole purpose of the boxes is to prevent piracy/ enable you to have the convenience of On Demand programing. If comcast converted the raw format at a central location then sent the signal out, all one would need to do is connect said signal, manually(illegally) and wallah. So in the nature of capitalism the Umbrella Corp That is comcast decided the boxes would be the best way to go.. even though the constant upgrading of said boxes produces more Tech -waste then just sending out a pre-converted channel line up. Think about how many cable boxes are in each house on avg lets say at least 2per household, keeping in mind Moores Law imagine the amount of Tech Waste that will be created because comcast wants every penny it can manipulate you out of. There has to be a way to make the cable providers work for us ..not the other way around

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You are right about the consequences, but for the wrong reason, and that's why most people will simply ignore you after the first sentence.

It's not some vast conspiracy. It's just the same greedy dirt bags pulling one over on the stupid uninformed public. While Ma-And-Pa-Willy-Wonka-Middle-America are busy blathering about killing babies and standing in line for Sarah Palin Memoirs, these assholes are busy paying off the govt so that they can screw you even more.
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delaware county, PA as of 01/15/2010 .. here is our lineup

D03-05 CBS
D06-01 WPVI
D06-02 Living Well
D06-03 Weather
D06-05 ABC
D08-01 Comcast
D10-01 NBC
D10-02 Weather
D10-03 NBC US
D10-05 NBC
D12-07 WHYY
D12-01 WHYY
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Ben Spotts

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Anyone who wants/needs a Comcast Digital line-up it can be foudn for your area at http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/...

Enter your zip and choose provider.
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↑↑↑ Only Helpful Link Posted!!! ↑↑↑

10 complaint sites, 4 channel guide sites, and 2 hours of my life wasted, and this is the first helpful link. This site isn't perfect, but it comes to closest to helping you figure out what's on television in your area.
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Demario Harvey

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a quick quesitoni have a visio flat screen lcd and i have the basic comcast as well. i looked at the channel list for digital atl area but i run across channels like RF90-8 which at certain times of the day is a blue screen but at others there are premium channels on it like hbo or even pornos then wen the show is done it goes blue again.there are like three channels like this. has anyone else came across these channels yet.
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Yes speedy, that's what this entire discussion is about...did you get this photo done at the mall Glamor Shots booth?
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Some channels are used for On-Demand and will have content only when someone on the same subnet is watching something. Others are used for promos - I had NHL Center Ice on 117-xx for the month it was available as a teaser. So, there's stuff there that you can't count on but can watch if you find it.
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Demario Harvey

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thats wats up i still get the promo of nba league pass and the baseball league wen its baseball season and wen its done being free it says scrambled
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To answer your question u can goto comcast's website and enter your zip code & it should give u the most recent lineup. For others venting abt buying a new set & having 2 still use a box. This is my comment. Just bought a digital tv for my living room. A small one. Paid under $300 for a display model because I have given one of my analog tvs to my mother because hers had gone kaput.

Really did not buy into the hoopla and spend thousands of dollars replacing my old tv that will go into my bedroom. I knew yrs ago that the objective was to get people to convert to the cable boxes. I worked for a cable company for 8yrs. I have cable now still connected to my old set & I don't need a box haven't hooked up the new tv yet. Now, in my area, they r just starting to convert some of the expanded channels, not the premiums to digital (that was done yrs ago) so now u need a box except for basic or if u are not on a special expaned service. But u still don't need a digital tv.

People wanted to keep up w the Jones' so they ran out and spent last yrs tax returns on digital sets. I think industry knew this wld happen bcse people did not fully understand the transition & so consumers took the easy, although expensive way out. They bought new tv's they really could not afford or understand how to fully use& now they r still upset because they need the box. But what I learned is that most people r like tv crack junkies and will not downsize their service, i.e. the premium services & just go to basic bcse you're hooked. They know this, so they know u will continue to pay regardless of whatever they do. If u r that dissatisfied with using the box, goto basic or cut it off. Tv is not a neccessity, we just think it is... Stop bitching...
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Wow! A lot of whining and conspiracy theorys. I am a Comcast technician.

ORDGUY - I'm going to take the long way to answer your question so I can answer other questions along the way.

Satellite providers have boasted for years that they have an "All Digital Channel" lineup.
PRO: Digital channels allow for compression and as a result, more channels.
CON: Every TV needs a box.

Cable providers have carried Analog channels for years.
PRO: Many channels available without a box.
CONS:
1)Far fewer digital (specifically HD) channels to offer our customers.
2)Theft of services.
a)The more theft you have, the more resources you have to spend in order to try and prevent theft.
b)Someone stealing services typically doesn't care about the quality of their wiring and can easily be pumping all kinds of junk back into the cable system causing service problems for the paying customers. This in turn requires additional resources to try and locate the sources of said junk and fixing it.

Cable providers needed to change to more digital channels because:
1) FCC requirements
2) Ability to compete with Satellite who is offering 150 or more HD channels because they don't have analog channels clogging up their Bandwidth.
3) Less Theft. Let's devote fewer resources to preventing theft and concentrate on the quality of our service.

In doing so Comcast extended an olive branch and offered 2 free DTAs to every customer. If you do the math, that cost a lot of $$$. They could have made everyone upgrade to another box. Many customers who upgraded to the free DTAs had very old, substandard wiring in their homes. Cable providers repaired or replaced a lot of wiring at little or no cost to the customer. That's a lot more $$$ that cable providers ate to try and make the transition as painless as possible.

If you didn't want the 2 free DTAs and thought that Comcast was trying to make you pay $$$ to upgrade to another box, what would you do? Go to Satellite and have to get a box on every TV anyway??? All the major networks are still being broadcast in Analog and are available without a box. You can't get anything without a box via Satellite.

The DTV transition was an FCC mandate that was signed into law by Clinton. It was delayed several times. Obama delayed it again since he has been in office. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CABLE COMPANIES.

Cable companies said as long as you had their service the DTV transition wouldn't affect you. And it didn't!

The timing is unfortunate, but cable providers made a seperate change at about the same time. This one does effect cable customers. They gave you free boxes and upgraded your wiring so that we can offer more channels and better service to our customers.

***As for your digital channel line up for your brand new HD TV with a digital tuner. Comcast receives channels from various networks. We in turn can move them around within our system and place them on specific channels. That is why your NBC may not be on the same channel as someone a few towns over. When channel 5 is moved within our system, it is still on channel 5 if you have a box. If you don't have a box and are using your Super-Duper TV with the digital tuner, channel 5 may now be channel 137. That's why we don't provide you a channel line up for your TV. It may change at a moments notice and that's just more resources we would have to spend to constantly update it for you.***

You can still use your Super Duper HD TV with a QAM (digital) Tuner to get uncompressed HD channels over the air with a Digital antenna. You can also use a DTA with that same TV at the same time if you use a 2-way splitter.

BTW, we (the cable companies) are all out to get you. LOL
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Mr. Younglove,

Much of your response rings true. Digital signals require digital signal receivers. However, your response actually fails to answer the question, which was "How can I know which channels contain what content?" You very competently attempted to say, essentially, that it would cost Comcast too much to provide that information since it is subject to change. A much smaller company such as Silicon Dust is able to do it even without possessing any of Comcast's proprietary information, free of charge to people who don't even purchase their products, so your argument has fallen on deaf ears.

It actually wouldn't take much at all to create a simple script which interfaces with Comcast's databases to update a webpage with current digital subchannel information. Well, Comcast is so cheap that they'd probably do it with underqualified, inefficient programmers, so perhaps it wouldn't be so simple. Such channel listings would be mostly unnecessary if Comcast spent money on things like PSIP generators to put channel and program information into their digital streams, but I guess that would "cost too much" too. It's a whole lot of cost-cutting for a company who charges way too much for even the most basic services, just because they can. They neglect to provide certain services and information because they can. It's just like most things in business, of course, I just don't want to hear people like you making excuses for it.
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Hey I take offense when you say we are whinning! You schmuck we are all frustrated with comcast not giving a $%#$%. I personally have profanity as my name on my comcast bill because customer service will not change the name its all one big joke. So dont tell us we whine you putz.
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Maybe, just maybe if Compcrap were to lower their prices and stop
nickle and dimeing customers to death, the temptation to steal the
signal would go down and comcrap's subscriptions would go up.More reacuring charges = More profits! Plus the only people I know
that are stealing and bragging about it, are both ex-employees.
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sorry, actually you need a splitter and a switcher if you only have one tuner on your TV (and most do). Then you need to manually go up to your TV and flip the switch (or pay for an expensive IR enabled switcher) to go between the local HD and SD tv.

All Comcast had to do was to provide the digital channels within the sub 100 channels or provide a digital converter box with HD or at the very least an component RCA output and the problem wouldnt have been nearly as bad as it is now. Its a calculated move to force every TV to pay an additional $7 a month.
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Rahabib

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sorry, actually you need a splitter and a switcher if you only have one tuner on your TV (and most do). Then you need to manually go up to your TV and flip the switch (or pay for an expensive IR enabled switcher) to go between the local HD and SD tv.

All Comcast had to do was to provide the digital channels within the sub 100 channels or provide a digital converter box with HD or at the very least an component RCA output and the problem wouldnt have been nearly as bad as it is now. Its a calculated move to force every TV to pay an additional $7 a month.
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Have any of you good but clueless 'folks' out there ever stopped to think how easy it is to put a tiny digital camera and mike in the cable box next to the sensor that picks up the signal from your remote and then feed that signal back up the cable? 'Big Brother' may already be watching and listening as we speak.
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How did you find out I was so into watching you in your pajamas eating pudding.