Breadcrumb Trail

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Is it possible to only show 1-2 linkable breadcrumbs on the product detail page? I ask as many of my products are listed across quite a few categories by theme, color etc. I have had to turn this feature off for now as you can imagine it is not an appealing look on the page to have more than 1 or 2 listed.

Thanks in advance :)
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Not currently. You can either display none or all. I changed this though to an idea for you to see if it has traction among the community.

Thanks TFB
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Thanks for the quick reply Nick (:
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I need this feature too.
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TFB

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Anyone else care to vote for this? Bueller...Bueller :)
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I had to turn the breadcrumbs off on the details page also for the same reason. It just looks entirely out of place to have so many links there.

... but at the same time, it looks odd to have no links there at all. Surely there's some sort of compromise?
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I'm in the same boat and also had to turn of the breadcrumbs to avoid a messy detail page. I hate to do it since i think the breadcrumbs are important.
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Also i had turn off this feature, many products is below more one category.
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Great idea! I'm going nuts right now figuring all this out...so I guess I'm going to have to turn my breadcrumbs off as well!
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This is an essential feature - it really looks messy when you have items in multiple categories.
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Anyone else care to vote?? :)
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This is a must, especially with the new feature that allows products to be listed under broad categories. If i want them to show up under categories and sub-categories I have to deal with my users seeing 3, 4 or 5 breadcrumbs.

Like this:

products > Winter Accessories > Men's Black touch screen gloves
products > Winter Accessories > Winter Gloves > Men's Black touch screen gloves
products > Winter Accessories > Winter Gloves > Touch Screen Gloves > Men's Black touch screen gloves

Not cool CC, not cool at all! Let's make our breadcrumbs smart! I'd even say to make them so smart that they know the path the customer took. So if they came in off a search engine to the winter gloves page and clicked on a product the breadcrumb would show up like this:

products > Winter Gloves > Men's Black touch screen gloves

Our breadcrumbs have not been taking their vitamins, they are completely...dumb :( lol
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Bump - Vote:)
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dbridenbaugh

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We need this too. Would also like control of the font type for the breadcrumbs. Currently these are automatically set to an H2 which is too wide, so the bread crumb takes up two rows and looks ugly. The ability to change this to an H1 would allow the breadcrumb to fit on one line. Can this be moved to CSS?
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Bump - anyone else care to vote for this? :)
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This is the first major issue I've come across so far with CoreCommerce. Everything else has been good so far.

Regarding Breadcrumbs and especially regarding SEO

Each page Should have the Title of the page as a H1 tag. ie. The Category Name, The Product Name

There should be only 1 <h1> tag on a page.

Then there should be a breadcrumb trail. The breadcrumb trail doesn't need to be a heading tag, just a paragraph is fine with a class on the tag for css customization.

On the product page there should be only 1 breadcrumb trail. Right now there is a problem with how the breadcrumb trail is created on the product page when there are multi categories for a product. It grabs the first one and the creates a breadcrumb trail from that.
i.e.
If there are 2 trails A and B and I go down A to reach a product the category trail should remain as A with the product on the end. Right now it default to the first category.

Paul Serra's post a month ago was exactly right.

In fact this is even a simple thing to do, I've got php code and mod-rewrite code I use on my own custom sites that does this, I'd be happy to pass it along to get it implemented. It even looks like the breadcrumbs are created the same way by parsing the URL (which would probably explain the capitalization in the URL.)

So in summary:

Each Page's Content Area should be laid out:

<h1>THE TITLE</h1>

<p class="breadcrumbs"><a href="">Products</a> > <a href="">Category</a> > <a href="">Sub-Category</a> > Product Name<p>

#THE REST OF THE CONTENT#

You could even give us templating options to arrange the Order ie. breadcrumbs first then title

Or even the option choose what tag to make the title or breadcrumb, although in my experience it really doesn't need to be anything other than my suggestion, but I know you have to consider that everyone will have preferences.

Whats the chances of this happening?

I look forward to a response from the CC team as to the feasibility
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Bump - since it looks like vanity items such a sliders ect are being worked into the next release I would hope actual marketing tools that take much less to implement would be included.

No matter the votes let's keep SEO and NEEDED marketing tools a priority as I have been down that road with another company and it was not a pretty result.
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Simon Rimmington

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Absolutely, 9 days and no reply to my post, not even an acknowledgement
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TFB

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2 months 27 votes and no acknowledgement??
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It's been acknowledged because its been put "Under Consideration". I'm still following other questions that have little votes that I believe are simple fixes and are stuck on "Under Consideration" because of the vote issue.

I don't really like that people need to vote and be one of the top voted projects to be considered for the next release... Although for this update it may be a lot of manual labor on their end since they have to update all the templates (I think)?

What would be great is if they could at least give a couple of lines of code or access to the files just to change that until they make it a CoreCommerce-wide update
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More than 2 months if you count other posts regarding this same issue. I'd say closer to 5 months. Actually, I tried the current implementation of breadcrumbs immediately after release (October 20, 2010) and posted a redesign suggestion on the old forum very shortly afterward.
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We agree. We want to use breadcrumbs but can't now bec. it shows every category product is in. It looks terrible with more than one line of 'breadcrumbs'. Hope this is in the work to get fixed.
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I can't wait for a fix to be integrated!
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TFB

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Bump :) 23 votes - anyone else care to see this feature moved from "under consideration" to "implemented?" ?
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There is a redundant suggestion regarding this very problem at: http://community.corecommerce.com/cor...

There were 9 votes for that one, I'm not sure if any are repeated here.

That post includes a possible design solution as well. It is 4 months old and was a migration from the old support forums.
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All the more reason for a fix to be implemented :) 23+ votes should be enough since other vanity based ideas have been implemented at lesser numbers.

Matt, could you give some input on this...something as to where the status is or if it is on the table at all?
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Definitely needed at DormSmart!
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TFB

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Bump..........................?
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TFB

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Bump???
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Simon Rimmington

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Thanks for keeping on this TFB, its an important fix from an SEO point of view. Its actually not that difficult. Especially if your make it an option to use Old Style Breadcrumbs or New Style Breadcrumbs. On launch all accounts would use old style breadcrumbs allowing Account Owners to Implement the new breadcrumbs when they are ready and make sure there are no issues with their templates.

Please a word of encouragement from CoreCommerce to let us know we are being heard - many thanks
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What would be a good way for us to allow the admin to choose which breadcrumbs they want to show on the product detail?

How about listing out all of the available breadcrumbs when you edit the product in the admin under "General Info" tab > "Search Engine Tags" left nav and letting you check/uncheck a checkbox next to each one to control which ones show up?

@Paul Serra the ultimate solution would probably be combining the path the customer took with letting the admin choose which ones to display manually. If we tried to track the customer's path though, the change would suddenly become much larger and would take much longer to implement. We'll probably let the admin choose which breadcrumbs to display as a first step and then circle around to it later on and build in the path tracking logic.
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I want to be clear on what you are saying, edit each and every product individually for which breadcrumbs show up???
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Under Settings > Store Settings > Search Engine Optimization
I am currently using the "Have only one URL for my product pages" Option.
I am not using the new "Use Exact Category Links" option
I am happy with the URL structure.

A first step of choosing a single trail to show on the product page would be an improvement from an SEO point of view. Although from a navigation point of view it would be confusing. I'd be tempted to not show breadcrumbs on the product page until the actual path taken solution was implemented. (but thats just my preference)

Other easy things to change on the breadcrumbs change the <h1> tags wrapping the breadcrumbs to <p class="breadcrumbs">

The show the Current Category Name in a <h1> tag a the top of the page (personally I'd put it above the breadcrumbs)

On the Product Page show the Product Name in a <h1> tag and the breadcrumbs in a <p class="breadcrumbs">
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And per TFB's comment I would not be to keen on updating 1800 products
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Simon,

Yea, just sunk in that we'd have to update every product manually - which would be intense!

Per your statement on not using exact links, i would highly recommend you did. The reason is because even if you don't the links in the Core commerce generated sidebar are exact. See my second post over at http://community.corecommerce.com/cor... . It will show you what I mean.

Paul
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I was all for it and went on to work on something else and a screeching sound echoed in my head :) Drilling through each product is not really a feasible option as most people have a few hundred to a few thousand products and the time it would take to manually do something that quite frankly should already be in place defeats the purpose of why we have a store - to make money:)

Do the math at whatever number of products you have at let's say 2 minutes (drilling in - page load time - save time) for each product update and your head will spin.
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Nikita - What is the status of this?