Changelog v1.099 - The F.U.E.L Generator

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The F.U.E.L Generator Update!

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Additions
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F.U.E.L Generator
- New building that allows you to convert resources into a small amount of fuel
- Once restocked, the building will begin it's fuel generation process
- This process takes around 46 hrs
- Collecting Fuel that is generated will empty the machine and restocking is needed
- Collecting when full has the possibility of providing a small amount of bonus fuel
- The F.U.E.L Generator can be raided by other players
- When raided the F.U.E.L Generator will be emptied of it's fuel
- When raided the F.U.E.L Generator will need to be restocked to start again
- Fuel drops have been adjusted slightly to compensate

Bonus Collections
Collecting from your resource producing buildings now has a chance to yield a small amount of bonus materials. This only occurs when the building is full.

Changes
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Traps
- Destroyed explosive traps now stay in place and show destroyed models
- Traps can now be "repaired" instead of being rebuilt
- Repairing traps uses the same items as building them

PvP Raiding
- Added upper and lower level limits to PvP
- You are now unable to attack a player more than 5 levels higher than you
- Changed the "retaliation system" to ignore level limits
- You can now revenge attack someone back regardless of circumstances

Resources
- Reduced amount of resources given from resource drops for wood, cloth, metal
- Added scaling of Fuel drops to counter players farming low level areas

UI
- Changed collection icon to be green to distinguish it from the red repair icon
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Now this might give incentive in raiding. Just because of the FUEL generator. LOL

Nice move CON >_< haha.
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Can the generator be raided during the production?
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Gunkel

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wow! can't wait to use the F.U.E.L generator! it seems quite balanced, because in the same time you get fuel, you also get a chance to lose it all from raiders.
But despite the raiders being able to steal it, do you think it'll be alright for you guys to implant this in the game without breaking your way of making a living?
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a few questions regarding the fuel generator and other issues

any more info as to what is the max lvl of the fuel generator?

so upgrading it allows it to store more fuel i guess?

so this mean lesser fuel drop from missions?

will also the peak oil book be render useless?
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Fuel still drops in the world, we just made a very very small adjustment to the amount to account for the FUEL Generator.

The more you upgrade it, the more it can generate.
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Arie Hariyanto

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Why Need 1 Days to Collets?
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Arie Hariyanto

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But I Love The Last Stand:Dead Zone :D
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Dorian Bujupi

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it's awsome
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Max level is 7. Still waiting to find out how much fuel I get when it's full but judging from the production numbers, I'd say you only get 15 fuel every two days at most. To be honest, I'm not to thrilled with the update. We are actually getting LESS fuel now than before. 2 days now, and I've yet to find a single fuel drop, whereas before I was able to farm about 15 a day. So for those worrying that the F.U.E.L generator is going to upset the game economy in the players favor, it's actually doing the opposite. Fuel is now more scarce than ever.
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Derek CatchuSlippin

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i hate pvp now this just made it worst....i cant rely on the AI to watch over my base when i am offline
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NoEntry

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The solution should be extremely easy. Don't build the generator.
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Christopher Santos

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If you can build a nice defense with little LoS exploits, why worry? >_< Well.. this just gives more incentive in raiding which is one of the key parts of the game but was very stale.. until now. XD
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You can always improve Your defence strategy to the point that it will start to be efficient. And if You can't or You don't want to, just buy "the white flag" book from the store.
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Ha ha good thing I just got the white flag book, can't raid me for fuel suckers
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Po Yi Wu

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Ha ha I got one, too.Cry for the white flag book!!!
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I've noticed that the other production structures also have the "Collecting when full has the possibility of providing a small amount of bonus resources". Also, it seems that the Vegetable Gardens and Water Collectors have received an unlisted boost to production speed. Now they're 5.33 at max, instead of 4.

"Reduced amount of resources given from resource drops for wood, cloth, metal"
I'm assuming this means the scavenged resource items (Cloth Pile, Metal Beam, Wood Board, etc.)?
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con realy there is not any word to describe our gratefulness to ur effort..great work thnx and keep it up.
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You're welcome!
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Con I am a huge fan of this game. Huge fan of all of you guys's games in fact. But can I ask a few small questions?

1: Has there been any more talk about the possibility of character customization? i.e.: clothing being a drop item?

2: is there a possibility of allowing you to raid at least one level below you?

3: if at all possible to tell me, I'm very interested in knowing what your plans are for future updates.
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Hey Darren,

Thanks! Glad you're enjoying Dead Zone as well. Always good to have long time fans on board.

For raiding people one level below possibly, we had it that way at one point, can't quite remember why we changed it. Might be worth investigating again.

I'll be announcing a few bits of information about the two updates we've got in the works really soon.
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As for the raiding 1 level lower.. it might be best to enable it somewhere around when the player is level 20 or something.. why? Its because, simply because of M24. Its available at level 16(?) or 17 and above, M24s are really a big step towards the defense anyways. Just an idea.

CON, about customization, more EYE CANDY things might be good for the game.. like.. it adds something but doesn't really do anything.. just makes it look "good", vanity stuff XD
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Yay! All the more reason the raid more!
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Henry Kong

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got to say the game is great, well top 1 for me , Con u doing it right !!!! salute u and ur team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Con the way I read the changelog correctly, you can harvest the fuel generator early, but you lose the stock, is that correct?
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Correct. You can collect when there is at least 1 unit of fuel in the generator. But doing so will require the generator be completely restocked.
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That is 100% correct. Needs to be fully restocked again every time you collect it.

Risk vs Reward.

Edit: Steve is too fast.
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Was this the update that addresses the "Pain vs Gain" ratio for upper level PVP that I spoke to you about on Kong the day Active Gear was implemented?
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nice update and nice model for generator, too
great work!
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Well by "adjusted" you mean removed ?

Just did 50 auto missions, not a single fuel drop.

Few other people with DM upgrade got no fuel so far with running 30/40 or even 60 autos..

Thats with 25% oil peak book, seems bit wierd...
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No, not completely removed. If you're running missions in low level areas, then you won't find Fuel there any more.
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It was 20-27 areas, cleared them ALL.

Not a single fuel drop.

Many other players report this too.

Or they are considered "low" since i`m 50 ? Seems all other high levels stoped to get fuel..
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Hmmm ok. Can you post your User ID for me orlean?
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asyataka

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@Con: please, explain the term "low level areas" :)
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orlean

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id:armorapprehension but we talked about it in chat allready :P such simple code mistake
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Can it be Raided during upgrades?
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I'm pretty sure it can't. The contents are removed when you upgrade, so you're best off collecting before you do it.
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Awesome!
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An interesting encouragement to PvP. Nice updates, too.

I admit I had to scramble a bit for some insulation. A few low level warehouses and I had the thing started.
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I hate you Con!

All these wonderful updates and to your awesome game.

Ugh. I'll never leave my house at this rate.
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" Fuel drops have been adjusted slightly to compensate "
in case the fuel amount i can get (mission+generator) is the same as before,
it means i have to wait for 46hrs instead of some minutes in mission as before?

ah...
interesting
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Good point...is this correct?
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We've balanced it so that you're getting very close to what you were getting before. The generator is meant to supplement your fuel supply.
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so increasing fuel drop will let the game unbalanced~

interesting too.

BTW, mc24 have a very good point here!!!
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Well, screw realism!
Nice model though, and nice PvP incentive, but...could not have been better, if you planned to give some extra fuel, increasing daily cap via peak oil book - quite useless ATM?

And...hope that "adjusted slightly" does not mean "completely removed"...
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Fuel caps were only tweaked a little. The Fuel generator is meant as a supplement.
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why screw realism? The fuel doesn't necessarily have to be gasoline. It could be biofuel. Ethanol is created from the fermentation of sugar and starches.

At any rate, you're bitching about realism playing a game which has zombies, in which you can arbitrarily decide a person's vocation (and doing so suddenly means they can wear boots or carry a med kit but not both), where supermarkets a year after being abandoned magically restock themselves every 24 hours, where you can only make 5 barricades but then use 100x the resources upgrading them, which has thousands upon thousands of guns lying about everywhere and hundreds of plans that tell you how to make high-tech weaponry on a bench you've hobbled together from metal gleamed from hair clips, staplers and old bikes.
This is realistic to you, but a fuel generator isn't?!
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Great idea on self-sustaining fuel production. Question: If the F.U.E.L. genny can be raided, is my fuel stockpile safe??? or does it get sucked up in the raid along w/ what is being processed??? I understand that when I raid someones F.U.E.L. genny I only get fuel produced to date and not the mash ( stock ) , right?

Can I upgrade my FUEL genny?
Can I use fuel to speed up my FUEL genny?
Can my FUEL genny be demolished by a raider?
Are there books that affect FUEL genny production ( yet) ?
Respectfully yours, Nick_the_Mouse
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1. Yes
2. Construction and upgrades yes, though it defies logic
3. Raided and requiring restocking, yes, not destroyed
4. Not yet, we have some planned though
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Any Fuel in your account is safe. Only the uncollected Fuel in the generator can be raided.
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Does the fuel generator work under a white flag?
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Shinshi

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I dont have one, but I am interested as the white flag might be paying for itself ;)
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Yep, it sure does. In fact the White Flag is currently 33% OFF!
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WOW! You guys do awesome job to keep this game interesting!:D (and I thought I'm gonna be bored after reaching lvl25+... Shame on me ;p)
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" Added scaling of Fuel drops to counter players farming low level areas"

Could this be explained a bit more.

Also how are we supposed to get to our daily fuel limits without raiding low level areas.

If you limit is 19 you will end up only getting 10 because at that sort of level only the 10 cans will drop. Or has that been changed.
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After a certain number of levels below you, you will be unable to find fuel.

The game was never designed for players to farm lower levels over and over to gain the same resources they would get from playing areas their level.
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Con the problem is without being able to farm lower level area's we do not get the same amount of fuel running missions our level. If you are going to make it so that we cannot get fuel from low level area's, then you also need to make it so that we get the +1 and +5 fuel containers from ALL applicable mission locations.

~D
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Has someone managed to scavenge some fuel after this update?
I haven't found a single drop...
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i just found "jerry cans of fuel" in a large supermarket run
also, a purple sword schem in the same mission
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Jokk - it's out there, you might have just hit your daily cap
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played yesterday, last time before 10 pm (GMT+1); if cap resets at midnight, then there could be something wrong...

Also, would you kind tell me - and to those intrested - what is the "certain level below you" after that you are not able to scavenge any fuel? Because I'm lvl 43 and I hit lvl 24 to 27 in a couple of missions I ran this morning and nothing happened, whilst other days I was able tu found at least 20 units of fuel in the first run...
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I found a can with 10 fuel on one of my first automated missions so there's nothing wrong with it. I'm level 25 tho. I do wonder if players that are level 30+ are even able to find fuel consdering the low level cap that is now implemented.