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Add tagging possibilities.

Allow user to add tags to books, DVDs & co.

Example: add tag "cooking" to books and DVDs related to the "cooking" topic.
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  • I use the "genre" field for tags like this. Click on the title, then switch to the "details" tab at the bottom. Press "Edit" (or command-return) and you can edit the field. Press option-return to create a new line.
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  • Chill dude. There's no need to get bitchy. You didn't specify that you wanted to search it, you just asked if it could be done, and I responded.

    You can create genre-based smart-shelves, and if you ask nicely maybe Wil can expand the search to include the genre field.
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  • Expanding search to genre may be a good idea.

    But, I think tags could be a new feature, I'm thinking of tags just as everywhere else, think to delicious.com for web links, LibraryThing.com for books... That's real tagging... !
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  • I’m intrigued
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    Ability to tag with multiple tags, smart shelf using tags, possible floating HUD with Tag Cloud. Ability to link/tag an item to favourite social bookmarking site.
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    I’m confident
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    I think tags would be cool. Won't happen until at least v3.
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  • Anyone else want tags? Please show your support for Ideas by clicking the "I like this idea!" button at the top of the thread.

    Happy New Year, Everyone! =)
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  • I’m eager for tags in 2.x
    Would expect tags in any current day information management application, without tags it would be Web 1.0
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  • Well, it's not really web anything. It's meant to inventory your media. That said, tags would be unbelievably useful.
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    I was just fretting about the inability to bulk add a genre (i.e., select 15 books and add a genre to all of them without deleting their current genres). While I'd still like that, I could come close enough with tags that I'd be happy.
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  • I’m mischievous
    It will be a great upportunity tagging objects because, for example with books, I want to list them by category but it is a bit difficult, I want to have one part with comics, another with child books, a new one with novels, ...
    I know that I can do it with a new shelf but I don't want to use this feature anymore cause I want to many classification to do.

    So TAGs will be good!
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  • I’m a bit frustrated by DL's slow development.
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    Note that Bookpedia has tags, though they are not OpenMeta, and a number of user-definable fields.
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    This app is dying for arbitrary tags. I was just wishing I had a way to tag the CD's that I want to sell (I don't want to sell them yet, I want my wife to have a shot at saving them first).

    I also donated a hundred books to the library recently and I wanted to be able to tag the ones I donated somehow, and also to pull a report for taxes. Failing a more ideal system for managing this I could have made it work with tags. As it was it was easier to just re-scan the books into a dedicated library, though now I'm left with having to remove them from the main library.
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  • I’m frustrated
    Is there any further news on this? The lack of tags is a glaring omission from the app for me.

    Just found an email from Terry Phillips (Delicious Support Team) written in 2008 which said that "with tags Wil seems to have something against them so I'm not sure".

    Has Will seen the light over the past 2 years and decided to incorporate them??!! Surely in Version 3??!!
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    I actually had to switch over to wordpress for the capabilities of Tags Category and Search. I think that with these three things the product would be AWESOME!

    By the way, the reason I had to switch is because I created a library for our company where employees can check the books we have. Books are categorized as business, computers, quality, etc. I sue Tag Cloud to further categorize the books (example cat: Business, tagged: presentation, data visualization, powerpoint). with over 500 books, the search function bemose a must.

    My process is use delicious to scan the books - copy & paste info into wordpress - PITA.
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  • I’m eager.
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    I want tags. Now, please. :-> I use DL to organize the over 1600 volumes in my classroom library. There are too many items and categories to keep making new shelves, and so many books fit into multiple categories. I like this program because it allows me to check the books out to each student. Tags would help when they say, "I want another gross book" or whatever their want is.

    I'm thinking about switching software to do that and just using DL for checking out, but that would be a pain in the butt that I don't have the time to handle.

    So PLEASE. TAGS. NOW. (Thank you!)
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  • I too would like tagging. Seems like shelves could be used like categories or tags and item could be drug into multiple shelves. Just a thought...
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  • I’m concerned that a DM year-equivalent is a decade.
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    Wil said over 3 years ago that he liked the idea. Over 2 years ago, Terry encouraged us to register our interest. How many of us have to click before this is treated as a priority?
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  • I stopped using DL a long time ago. If this gets fixed I might be motived to use it again.
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  • I’m not sure what I think.
    Call me extravagant, but with the general lowering of prices that accompanied the move to OS X a decade or so ago, I tend to buy licenses and all upgrades for multiple applications in a category, and either use them both or switch between them as they leapfrog each other in features. [Examples: Nisus/Mellel/Pages; Bookends/Sente]
    In book (only) cataloging, I would say that Bookpedia is overall a more fully featured and flexible product than DL. I use it to tag books that I own and that I plan to buy, and to create multiple book websites (in a range of styles and with different types of metadata), which Bookpedia allows you to export to (in addition to obvious things like MobileMe) folders on your hard drive for FTP-ing to wherever you want to put them. For example, I created a website just for books related to Cinderella for a course I'm teaching.
    DL is the scanning king, so when I actually buy a physical book (something I hope is going to become more rare, as my shelves are pretty much full), that's what I use to scan it in. Wil seems totally dedicated to keeping the scanning engine on the cutting edge, so I doubt anyone will be able to leapfrog him on that as long as he maintains interest in the program.
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  • I’m frustrated
    Until tagging becomes available, I will not be buying this product. I was very excited when I discovered Delicious Monster, mainly because it just seems easy and clean (I have been using a different service (which is free, and allows for tags, but is not as user-friendly). But tags, to me, is vital and I cannot see paying for a service that does not meet my essential criteria.
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  • I really would like to see tags. Tags are so common that I was completely sure they would be somewhere in DL2, also because it would make perfect sense including them in DL2 as tags are used to organize information and DL is all about organizing information (or stuff).
    I would like to tag my books into 3 categories: Nutrition, therapy and training, and then sub categorize each. This is the only criticism I have for DL which I think is a brilliant software. But I'm sorry to say that I think the lack of tags is A MAJOR FAULT.
    I hope it will be resolved soon (sooner then DL3)
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  • I’m frustrated
    I would like to be able tag my books with user-configurable lumps of text that are (a) easy to enter (b) searchable and (c) displayable. Is that possible or likely to be added in the near future?

    Let me explain what I'd like to do.

    I have a fairly extensive library of work-related (programming) books that I and my group use regularly. The books kind of overlap - does the struts2 book belong with the java books or the frameworks books or the tomcat books or where? I'd prefer to have a system that allocates each book a number (or I can allocate a number within the system) that is an index on the physical shelves. Then I can find the book in the system and then know where to go on the shelves to find it. So I'd like *that* tag to be displayed by default.

    Some of the books that we have are, frankly, cr*p. Some of them are completely cr*p. Others are just rubbish in parts. I'd like to be able to record that in the entry for the specific book. Some books are really good and have snippets in them that no other book has. I'd also like to be able to record that in the entry. And then I'd like to be able to search on those tags too.

    So I guess I'd like to specify that *all* books have extra fields associated with them on a cross-library but customisable way.

    Am I making sense? Am I asking for too much?

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Can we have user-defined and search-able tags please?.
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  • I’m sad
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    It would be really great to have 'tags' which can be added to books in Delicious Library. They're so widespread in blogs and all sorts of other types of data management (including this forum!). Are there any plans to include 'tagging' in Delicious Library?

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Tags in Delicious Library?.
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  • Allow the user to create different tags under my info in Delicious Monster. For example the user may want to add a tag for other audio formats, tags on which software ripped the CD, etc. A lot of audiophiles rip their CD collection and would like include this type of information if possible. I believe it would open up an even greater market share for your software if you added this feature.

    Thank you

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Can you add customized tags in under my info?.
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  • I’m excited to hear your thoughts and ideas
    Hi everyone. We still hear you! In fact, tags is the most requested feature we get. We are considering implementing a feature like this in the next version of Delicious Library, but first we want to know what you all want to use tags for. Reply to this topic and let me know! The more feedback we get, the better the feature will be for you, our users!
    • I'd use tags for topics (similar to the LOC description on the initial pages of a book), but I'd also use tags for "shelves" or in my case, boxes. It's a pretty tedious process to add to the notes of each book. This latter reason is why I primarily want tags. I know that shelves can be created, but then I have a ton of shelves on the left side. It seems that tags would make things cleaner and easier
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    I think the program "Yep" provides a good model. I'd love to see a cloud of self created tags, so that when you click on one, the list is reduced to works that match that tag. If the list is too long, you can click on another tag to reduce the list further.

    Gregory
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    I want to use tags for anything where I want one item to be able to be a part of more than one group. For example, every CD featuring a favorite guitarist would get tagged with the guitarist's name, like in photos, so that I could build custom collections. It makes more sense in cases where the musician doesn't already appear elsewhere in the metadata of course.

    I don't like Genre fields because a lot of my books and CD's span multiple genres, so a single selection doesn't work. (Is Tom Waits Rock? Jazz? Blues? Alternative?). I'd like to classify items in ways that make sense to me, such that the item can be included in multiple genres. (e.g. one Smart Shelf of Java development books, another Smart Shelf of Web development books, obviously many books belong in both categories, but many only belong in one or the other -- tags would work fine in this case.)

    I gave another example earlier of wanting to tag CD's and books as candidates to sell, and for other stages in the item's lifecycle (have I ripped it yet? Have I read it yet?). Obviously, custom fields are preferable in cases where a single selection is sufficient, but failing that, tags can be made to work.

    I'd like to tag books that make mention of things that are interesting to me, that I might want to go back and reference later (particularly nonfiction). Can't tell you how many times I've thought "oh yeah, a few of my books talk about that, I know I dogeared the pages but now I can't remember which books they were."
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  • I’m hopeful
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    Mike above me has nailed it on the head. "I want to use tags for anything where I want one item to be able to be a part of more than one group."

    Tags let me create a custom Venn Diagram of my stuff, based on arbitrary criteria that I personally find important.

    Right now, the biggest thing I care about is our ~1500ish item book collection. As examples of some of the tags I'd like to be able to put on a given book, say... The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein:

    * [My] Favourites
    * [My Husband's] Favourites
    * Sci-Fi
    * Moon
    * Revolutions
    * Space Travel
    * Social Commentary
    * Political Fiction

    In an ideal case, I'd like to be able to arbitrarily select any tag or set of tags and see all intersecting books (possibly even with exclusions?) -- so, say, be able to show all of the books which are my favourites AND my husband's favourites AND Sci-Fi (but NOT 'Space Travel').

    I'd settle for being able to display everything under one tag, if I had to, however.
    • (Obviously, the tag-based queries I'd like to run should be arbitrarily customizable on the fly -- so if today I want 'my favourites'/'my husband's favourites'/sci-vi/not 'space travel', and tomorrow I want 'my favourites'/'trashy romance'/'modern fantasy', and the next day I want 'kids books'/'sci-fi' I don't want to have to set those specific queries up in advance, e.g. with Shelves, but rather, have the tags be queried for in a dynamic fashion.)
    • Yes, I would use tags like this. Also, I want to use DL to inventory and value my business equipment (mostly computer hardware and media, but also office equipment, books and bodywork equipment), which I can then insure. Like others here, I want to be able to search and combine tags, preferably using boolean searches.
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    I want tags for different attributes, eg., awards. Tags for Hugo, Nebula, Eisner, Oscar. Some items will have more than one. I want tags for things like toread, interested, interestedsoon, class, for things I own and things I'm considering buying (I have them in DL too).

    I'd like it to be easy to view items with a tag. That is type a tag in the search box and see all with that tag. Or click on a tag and see a results shelf of items with that tag. Or the ability to make a smart shelf based on tags (using boolean searches for multiple tags with AND, OR, NOT).
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  • 1. I agree with Gregory above. Programs like Yep and Sente allow you to drill down in a very intuitive way to exactly the items you want.

    2. Probably goes without saying, but to be really useful Tags need to be usable as criteria by smart shelves/collections.

    3. Like many other people I have a lot of shelves/collections. Introducing tags will increase the opportunities to create new shelves/collections. For those shelves/collections to be "wieldy" and scrollable, we need to be able to nest shelves/collections inside folders. (I don't mean that we need hierarchical tags, or complex logic, just a way to manually put multiple collections into one container.)
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  • I’m anxious
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    I've been waiting for ages for tags to appear! If feedback is what you need Lia, you can multiply my response exponentially for all of the classroom teachers and homeschoolers out there! Tags would make thematic units a breeze. For example, I'm teaching a unit on pumpkins, and need all of the resources (books, movies, toys/puzzles, etc.) I have on that topic. Click the "pumpkin" tag, and see all my resources available. Shelves really don't work for this, as Melissa explained.

    I have the book "Tiny Tilda's Pumpkin Pie" in a fall shelf because that is when I teach my pumpkin unit. However, I would like to tag it with Fall, Pumpkin, Hippo, Little Red Hen, Sharing, Letter T, Letter P, Rhyming.

    Mike summed up another issue I've run into, keeping track of books I donate or sell. Rescanning into a new shelf and deleting them is a real waste of time when tags could've made it so simple.

    The scanning feature to keep a quick broad inventory is the only thing I'm using my DL program for right now. I've given up on categorizing or labeling anything, as I can't really use it to the fullest until tags appear. Please, PLEASE consider this feature soon!!!
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  • I’m frustrated
    3 years and counting. monster-ous #fail
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  • I am right there with mamacrizon. My wife is a teacher and as we have been scanning in her rather substantial collection of books I started looking for a way to "tag" them for different themes and units. I was amazed that it didn't exist as tagging has been so common for so many years now, and programs like this just scream for tags.

    Here is hoping that it makes it into the program soon, as without tags it is still a good program, but not as useful as it could be.
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  • I’m frustrated
    I've given up on this software. I'm sure I can find a replacement.
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  • I’m frustrated
    +1 with the deal blocker. It seems a 3 years' wish for so many (potential) customers. But most likely we won't get it until v3. Then the question turns to be, when DL 3.x will be available? The barcode scanning is truly good enough therefore I'd expect something interesting in the next major release.
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  • I’m frustrated!
    Absolutely my #1 most sought after feature.

    At the moment I have to organise by virtual shelves, but that's less than ideal as frequently a book will fit several categories where tags (and smart folders!) would make life *so* much easier..
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    I would also appreciate to have the possibilty to use tags. Some books fit in more than one category and it would be great to be able to organize the books in intelligent shelves while using tags
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  • Hi All,

    We still recommend that you use the Notes section for tags. You can create shelves based on the information the Notes section if you wish.
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    Yes, but searching Notes does not allow subsets. Tags would allow me for example to select from a large theatre library a subset books that "plays" that are only "contemporary" that are only "farce" and if the developers are clever even allows me to further narrow my search with cast= "2" or ". User defined tags would be huge help.
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  • Notes works fine for tags, but color tags (like in OS X) would be better to mark different support in different shelves.
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  • I’m frustrated
    Find it hard to believe the continued failure to implement such a basic and highly requested idea as this! Wil said it was a good idea over SIX YEARS ago now!!
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  • I’m sad and resigned
    I am feeling pretty stupid not to have researched this better - I tried out DL3; saw the scanning worked so much better than I'd seen before, bought the program, scanned two bookcases full of books, then went to organize them. It never even crossed my MIND that it would not be possible to tag them so that I can search for them the way I think and need. I imagine I'm just plain out of luck and out of pocket for having bought this and not put it through its paces more thoroughly. But I'm off to look for Bookipedia or any other management option that would let me find related works when I need to write! I can't work with keyword searches turning up any old thing in a library of thousands of books. I'm trying to search for a book that's about the question of race, hoping that a custom field helped, and instead of the one I hoped to see I've got everything from the Berenstein Bears to Christmas paintings from the Met popping up.
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