Adhesive Experiment

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I recently tried an experiment and I thought I'd relate my experience here in case anyone was thinking about the same thing. I have had full dentures about five months now. My inner lips still get irritated and rubbed raw, but other than that, most pain has started to fade away. Chewing, however, is still an uncomfortable ordeal. I use Seabond adhesive liners on the lowers. The cushion is awesome, and there is a lot of adhesion, but when chewing things like bread there is still some lifting and movement of the dentures. I use Super Polygrip on the uppers. And, I thought: let's see what happens if I add a bit of Polygrip on the lowers, on top of the Seabond liner. Double up the adhesion. Results: it was pretty difficult to get the Polygrip on there to begin with. When chewing, I found the adhesion was much better, it was quite effective. When removing the dentures, it was really bad. The liner, which usually just comes out with the dentures stuck to my gums and I had to rip it off in little shreds. It was quite a mess and took a lot of brushing to get it all out. So in conclusion, I do think if eating at a restaurant or in public, I will probably do this again as it really helps keep the lowers in place while chewing. But, if I'm going to be eating by myself, it's really not worth the trouble and mess. Chewing is still a major discomfort for me, but that's the way it goes. If anyone else has had these troubles and other ideas, I'd appreciate some feedback. Thanks!!!
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Hi Joel - just read your post. I've done the double up the adhesion bit myself, and you're right - it can be a nightmare when removing the dentures. May I suggest the next time you double up, rather than using the Polygrip on top of the liner, use powdered Fixodent adhesive (I say Fixodent because I don't know if Polygrip has a powder). It's easy to use, you only need a little and, best of all, no more denture removal nightmares! (smile) Happy eating!
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Thanks for the tip!!
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I hear you Darlene. They are a nightmare indeed. I am just now starting to get used to them. It's a slow, painstaking process. A lot of discomfort and pain.
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New here. I've have bottoms & uppers for 20yrs and still have problems with the bottom. Went to.Get implants for the bottoms. Went a lot & a lot money that I didn't have. After all of that. They didn't take. I had 2 choices. Wait 4 months and try again or a refund. And if I went have them do it again. I would have to go 3 months without the bottom ones. I took the refund. Because I put this on my credit card & since I had to go on disability because of cancer & back surgery. I needed the money. I have tried everything and have yet to find something that works. Fixident, poligrip, secure even the seabond. Nothing has worked.
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Wow. 20 years and still the problems. Kind of disheartening. Haven't even had mind for a year yet. I had thought about implants, but I was warned about the immense expense and the amount of work involved, so I opted for dentures. They are a severe pain in the neck, and kind of wish I had went the implant route, but then you wrote they didn't even take. So, even then that could've been a disaster. The lowers are the worst, I will say. Sorry nothing has worked man. I don't get a lot of stability and I have tried everything as well. Can't take bites off of burgers or apples, or even sandwiches without the lowers at least trying to dislodge. I have tried different chewing motions, some work, some don't. After 20 years, there's nothing I can say you haven't already tried most likely. I will admit that against all advice and forum advice, I don't wear mine for every waking hour. They're just too much of a hassle and I have a lot of stuff I need to get done and can't really deal with the extra stress of them. And, a lot of times, if I am eating alone, I won't wear them either. I am breaking every denture law out there, I'm sure. But, can't help it sometimes.
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Joel Rook, Check out Bill Westlund, on youtube. He has helped thousands of folks with their dentures. He answers questions and does everything he can to help new denture wearers learn how to use their dentures.  He is very enjoyable to watch.

Besides that, I learned a little trick that has been working for me. I've been wearing uppers for over 30 years and lowers for around 7 or 8. I use Fixodent now because it is thinner and doesn't add a whole lot to my lower. I use nothing for my upper. I don't need it. Anyway, what I do is this. I dry my denture completely, then add Fixodent in three tiny strips. Front and sides. Then I drop it in cold water,  and leave it there for about 2 minutes. I do not rinse my mouth with water so it's dry also. Then I put my denture in with my fingers, pressing on the back side until I feel it set. By doing this, I have found my lower does not move around while I'm chewing and it stays in a long time. When I remove it is when it has all been dissolved. If there is some left on my gum, I use a toothbrush with as hot water as I can stand. Well. I guess that's two tricks. I hope this helps you in some way as well as others.
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Thank you for sharing! I only have uppers. I've had my dentures abut 2 years now, and, over time I experiment with different ways of taking a bite and chewing. Most humans chew up and down up and down. Some animals, like cows  and deers, chew side to side...watch a video of how their mouths move...the lower jaw goes side to side rather than up and down.
I found it's easier to chew certain foods if I imitate a cow or deer...not as pronounced as course...but a slight side-to-side movement of the lower jaw while chewing lessens the likelihood of dentures slipping or popping off.
I use SeaBond sheets, SeaBond adhesive, and Fixodent but NOT all at once :D I like to rotate.
The SeaBond sheets are easiest to remove. Of the adhesives, SeaBond is also the easiest to remove. It gives a good hold but is formulated to dissolve in water.
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I have full upper and lower dentures and today it is a month. I concur that pain and eating is pure hell and yes the lower denture has a mind of its own no matter how much the adhesive, for certain foods like meats and french fries. Just a month, but I am getting there. Looks like patience is the answer. I have lost over ten pounds from not eating well and I have been the same weight since age 22, and I am 67. I like the suggestions here and will try them. I love hearing from the long term experts to us neophytes.
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Hi, I've had my full dentures about a month, and I hope over the last year your experience got better. Today I ate a salad with lettuce, cucumbers, red onions and tomatoes, and 2 crunchy peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. So eating is good for me! On the downside, I'm going back on Friday for them to shave a little off the top denture so I can talk normal, and get a small piece of bone taken out. But overall, I'm happy and would love to see how you've progressed. Rod
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Patience is definitely the key...of which I have very little. Ha. I'm right there with you on the weight loss and not eating. It's amazing how sick I've become of mashed potatoes and oatmeal. I'm starting to learn how to train my mouth movements as Mary Sells was talking about in her post. I don't know how long it will take to become muscle memory though. I avoided eating in public for quite a while just for how silly I look and how awkward the dentures feel. But I'm slowly starting to adjust. Slowly.
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I have been reading this thread with great interest.  I should be getting my dentures this week. I had extractions in July and didn't have immediate dentures. My dentist wanted to wait until I had healed somewhat.  I've had partials for a few years and I got used to those fairly quickly and easily but I know that full dentures won't be so easy to get used to so I am interested in how others have coped with full dentures and with adhesives, too. I am not expecting miracles. I just want to be able to smile properly but I am prepared to forego eating in company for however long it takes!
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Love all the helpful tips! I've had my dentures for 3 weeks and I am so sick of soup I could scream!! My mouth hasn't healed enough to use Fixodent yet but will more than likely be using it in the future. Thanks for all the insight, I need it, right now this journey feels never ending. Ice cream anyone?
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Yeah I went in expecting miracles thanks to very nonchalant and vague input from the dentist. They did nothing to properly prepare for the amount of discomfort, pain, and the amount my life would change. It was in this forum that I learned the most. The people here are better advisers and more willing to help than the dentist I paid thousands of dollars. But that's just my experience, be not disheartened! I have even spoke to people in here who have had no issues whatsoever. But adding to the pain was also the humiliation and embarrassment I've gone through due to how awkward dentures were in public at first, including drooling! I am a single parent of twin 13 year old daughters so I couldn't take hardly any time off work to heal and adjust. Plus parent/teacher conferences and other events like sports and recitals. I wasn't about to not support them so I just got used to the embarrassment red my skin color changed to. Haha. So it's been very difficult. I really depended on the anonymity of this forum for help so take every opportunity to do the same!! Hopefully if I learn something helpful I want to help cause it's mostly trial and error! Good luck to all who undertake this.
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