Bonyf AG Olivafix and Denture Reline Kit - Semi-Clinical Trial

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My products from Switzerland arrived today.  Going to give the Olivafix a try tomorrow.

I'll probably wait until the weekend to try the Denture Reline Kit

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Just to get started.  Here is a link to more detailed directions in English in my Google Drive Folder:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0qcAcfEF-SMTG1JbGU5d19pT2M  

Cost of each product:  $17 for Olivafix and $23 for the Reline Kit (Includes shipping to USA)

I ordered this on 04/21/2017 and it arrived today 05/03/2017 so it took about 12 days to get here.
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I love the Olivafix
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Ted how do u get in the clinical trial?  Please post your results.
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I'm just kidding around Joan -- It's simply MY TRIAL of these products.  
The prefix "SEMI" preceding "CLINICAL" is meant to denote this.
I actually do pretty thorough evaluations of anything I try.
I'll post my "UNSCIENTIFIC" (but accurate) results here.   
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Hmmmmmmm
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Part of my "evaluation process" is online research.
Here's what people in the UK say about this product on amazon.co.uk
https://goo.gl/FgX9Sw

Note:  Remember - when it comes to dentures, we're all different and what works for one person, may not work for another.
Everyone I know that has tried this in the USA loves it.
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Please let us know how it works. Little expensive, but if it works it will be worth it.
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Ramona have you tried Secure?  It's a lot less expensive ($20 for 4 today on Amazon Prime) and has better reviews.  
I love Secure and am just trying this for something different and also wanted to give their Soft Liner a try.
That being said, the Olivafix is holding up really well so far today which at T + 7 hours and two meals, coffee and water.  I'll update more later tonight on how it's working.
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Ted how do you feel about SECURE?  I use that better than the rest, but still does not hold for hours
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I got my secure sample in the mail today. I can't wait to try it. Thinking of giving it a go tomorrow. Have heard and read great reviews about it.
I remember when you ordered the olivafix, I saved the information pages you shared. Would like to give that one a try in the future also.
Sounds like it's going pretty well for you so far, can't wait to hear your unofficial review of it!

I've been using the polident powder which has worked for me so far, but haven't gone longer than 4 maybe 5 hours with them in as I've been still doing salt water rinses throughout the day. Now that I don't have to take the dentures out and do those throughout the day, I'd like to find something that lasts a little longer, even with drinking and eating.
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Secure Adhesive is my "Go-To" adhesive.  I love the stuff.  It's sold in the US under license from Fittydent International in Austria.  In my experience, when used properly, nothing hold my upper and lower full dentures in better.  At the Amazon Prime Price of 4/$20 it's hard to beat.  I was just about to do an update on the Olivafix which I will do below. 

www.fittydent.com or  http://www.securedenture.com/

I've used both of the above and they are identical.

Secure/Fittydent also "plays nicely" with Cushion Correct from Japan.
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Ted is the olivafix worth the price? Or would u personally stick with secure? I love the powder adhesives but I also think secure is the very best for an ALL day hold. I'm still waiting for my protefix tho. Lol
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Funny you should ask.  I was just getting to that.  I'm going to do a post with some pictures on Olivafix.  I won't be buying anymore if that tells you anything.  :-)
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Yep that tells me everything I need to know. Lol ;-)
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I didn't want to start a new topic on this but I am trying secure for the first time today. It is currently 1:30pm, I've had scrambled eggs, sausage and oj this morning for breakfast, bottle of water and a small glass of fruit punch, now I am having a small piece of chicken and rice, glass of soda for lunch. So far, they are holding in there amazing! I haven't felt a budge at all like I usually do by now with the polident powder. They feel nice and tight still after eating all that good and drink! Only dinner to go and that is supposed to be taco's which I haven't had since getting dentures. Hopefully it won't be too much an adventure and it'll go smoothly.
So far I'm impressed with Secure!
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Great to hear Mary - Keep us posted please!

If anyone is interested in what is actually in Olivafix vs. Secure, here's a list.
I googled some of the Olivafix Ingredients for further knowledge and made notes accordingly with a * marks.   Personally, I like to KNOW what I am putting in my mouth.


 
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That red stuff on some cheeses?  PVAc.
Think about that next time you use Secure.

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Huh, that's kind of interesting Ted. Never knew that.
Well I will say after having dinner tonight, soft street taco's, I felt a little give in my dentures, probably some my fault as my taco's may have been too loaded lol. But I just pressed my detures back down and they were fine again. It has been about 10 1/2 hours and they are still in and pretty secure feeling. Not sure if I'll be taking them out tonight or not. I'll keep using this the next few days of course, so I really get the full usage out of it, but I am very impressed with this stuff! I've already added it to my shopping cart on amazon! lol
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Man between me Mary and Ted I bet we keep Amazon and eBay too happy!!! Lol
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Ted, yes I have been using secure for a long while now. It works very well for a long period of time for me with a little Fixident on the bottoms with it. I get mine from Vitacost I believe. About 22 dollars includes Shipping for 3 tubes. Shipping alone 4.99. Thanks 
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That's great Ramona!   Because of the $17 cost, I'm going to try using Olivafix in my bottoms and Secure on my uppers.  As with most, my issue is with the lower full denture.  I can get it to hold for about 8-12 hours (depending or what I eat and drink) with Secure.  I want to see how Olivafix hold up on the bottoms vs. Secure.
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I hope you have success with your new products.  I have yet to find anything to work for me.
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Ted is fittydent the same as secure owned by the same company?  Yes its Joan asking stupied questions.
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No stupid questions.  In the USA, Secure is sold under a license agreement with Bioforce USA.  It states Bioforce is the exclusive "distributor" of Secure in the USA in the "About Us" section of the Secure website.

"We are Bioforce USA, an industry leader in distinguished natural lifestyle products. Our mission is to bring you natural health care products from Europe that provide the highest level of quality, effectiveness and safety available today."

Sounds like an independent distributor to me.
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Graphic Warning:  This post contains a Post-Eating Denture Photo.  View at YOUR own RISK only!

Olivafix is pretty good.  I put it in around 7am this morning and ate Breakfast and Lunch without issue.  Eggs and then Yogurt if you want to know.  We had a Zatarain's Creamy Cajun Style Pasta with Chicken meal tonight around 6:30PM.  I could feel the bottoms were starting to get loose, but they did hold through dinner.

I popped them out as shown below after dinner and gave them a quick rinse.  There was some of the cheese sauce and spinach leaves in both the uppers and lowers.  I always seem to get leafy veggies like spinach or brussel sprouts in them.  I LOVE fresh ground pepper and that stuff always finds a way to sneak in.  :-(

My dentures rinsed of very easily (must be the olive oil) and I popped them back in.  As I type this I'm chewing gum...  so, there's still SOME stick left in the Olivafix.  At +18 months with Dentures I could honestly eat that meal and what I had today with NO ADHESIVE.  I just personally chose to use SOMETHING, just so they stay where I want them to and don't wander off on their own.  :-)

After one day of use, I can honestly say that I like this product and will keep it as another tool in "the box" in addition to Secure and Protefix.    Is it worth $17 vs. 4/$20 for Secure?  At this point I would have to say no.  

I'm going to use it for a few more days and will keep this thread updated.  I even tried to start a new YouTube video on Olivafix this morning, but forgot to turn OFF the Ultrasonic Cleaner before I started the Video Camera and there's an annoying buzzing in the background.  I'll video the "installation process" tomorrow or over the weekend and post that link here as well.

On the Pro side vs. Secure, Olivafix does seem to wash off the dentures easier and leave noticeably less residual gunk in my mouth than Secure tends to do, but I have my denture cleaning routine down pretty well now and it's not too much of a bother anymore.

Please feel free to ask me any questions if I missed anything here.  


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Different for me. I put mine in at 8am and just took them out at 9:30pm. I ate 3 meals including bagel with seeds, and pepper on a salad. They did not move and no food trapped. I will buy again definitely!
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Impressive!  Funny thing this Denture Game...  
Everyone needs to find what works best for them.
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Protefix good compared to secure?  Where can I purchase it.
Thanks and you r very informative and u should be the go to person.
You are awesome.
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Geez thanks...  I give Secure the edge, but I like that fact Protefix goes on wet so I can just take the Dentures from their bath, rinse them, apply the Protefix and lightly mist them with a bit more water.  Similar to Olivafix in that way.

With Secure I dry them thoroughly and even dry my Gums and Pallet with a small microfiber towel for maximum all day hold - 12 hrs +

Protefix is available is the USA on Amazon with 2 Day Prime Shipping.
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Day #2 with Olivafix - Going for the 24hr Hold "Amount."
Maybe I was skimpy on the quantity yesterday?
When doing a "Semi-Clinical" Trial, one MUST experiment a bit!  :-)
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I'm at around T+27 hours with the UPPERS (see the 24 hours thing applies to full uppers only).  Bottoms popped last night at around 12 hours.  I re-applied more Olivafix this AM and put them back in.  I used copious amounts of this stuff and that seemed to make a big difference.  

Overall rating is EXCELLENT with an * due to it's cost at $17/tube shipped to USA.  As with many international products, this may show up on eBay and/or Amazon in the future at better pricing?
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copious amounts of a $17 tube.   How long do you think the tube will last?  I am curious as I can't afford to experiment too much.
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Coming from the EU, both Secure and Olivafix come in 40 gram (1.4oz) Tubes.
(I was told WE would be on the Metric System by NOW btw)
If I was doing this on a Budget, I would use Olivafix on the Bottoms and Secure or something cheaper on the Upper.
This is about a Gram according to my Scale.  So 40 days or so?
It would last A LOT longer doing bottoms only.
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That's applying the product per their directions.
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That's about the amount I use on the bottom. Less on the top
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Me too Charlid61.  I was shooting for the 1 gram mark.  Made the Math easier!
Note the "apostrophe" on the upper "S" in the cupcake paper above.
I hit 1 gram on the nose with that.  LOL
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Lol!
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I looked at Protefix on Amazon Prime and the cost was $15 with shipping so it's about the same. If you buy 3 Olivafix at $51 you get a tube free and the shipping is free too.
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Where do you get 3 @$51.00 and 1 free
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myswisscare.com
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I tried the Bonyf AG Denture Lining Cushion Stabilizer a bit ago.  
It "burned" a bit more than Soft Relines I had at the Dentist.  
Very tolerable though.
At the moment, the fit feels really good. 
After mixing it did start to setup very quickly so you need to work very fast.
My wife calls me McGyver 'cause I like to do most things myself!  :-)

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Ted did u ever hear of Novus Soft Denture Liner.  I found it on internet.
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Yes. It sounded VERY interesting.  I think it is a Professional Product that only Dentists and Labs are able to get in larger quantities.  I sent the Informational PDF to my Dentist a few weeks ago and am waiting to hear back from them.  I "think" my Dentist currently uses Coe-Soft for soft relines, but I asked them to check out Novus.  I need to followup with them about it.

This one seems legit?  I might order it after the Bonyf Liner wears out.
https://www.densurefit.com/

You have to be careful as a lot of these products are marketed aggressively and fail to perform as advertised.  Like anything I guess?
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Ted I was watching a video I believe is comes from Switzerland.  I see they sell the it on line $295 but I agree it should be done by a professional. It goes over your own denture is that correct?
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Whitesquare Chemical from Wilmington, DE appears to own the Patent(s) on the Novus Liner product.  I did see a site selling a "kit" for $265 online although it looks like they sell to Dentists and Labs.  According to their website, Novus was developed some years ago and was not available after 1988 for some reason.  Looks like an old product in a new package?
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What do u think about it. Can u mention this to your dentist?  I have a good denturist I might call him and ask him.  If I understand this it goes over your denture, but do u need to use denture paste with it.
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I sent a followup E-mail to my Dentist.  I had already sent them the Novus product PDF a few weeks ago and told them I was interested in it at my annual checkup.
Heck, I volunteered to be their "Guinea Pig" with it.  :-)
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The Bonyf AG Liner Product began to separate from my lower denture last night.  This morning I pulled  it out.  The back edge of the upper is also a little lose.  The website offers 30 day refunds and they offered to send me a second tube of Olivafix for free.  I could have pushed to get a refund, but I decided to accept their offer.

I'm actually starting to like the Olivafix.  I'm getting the quantity thing down as well.  It works REALLY WELL in my upper and it still sticky after 24 hours which is pretty impressive.  It will hold a good 12 hours+ in my lowers depending on what I eat.  For example, Steak is going to pop them faster than Pasta.

Here's a photo of the end result of the Bonyf AG Liner in my lower denture:

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FINAL ANALYSIS:  

Bonyf AG Denture Relining Cushion: Not worth the money.  Many other products work better.

Olivafix Denture Adhesive Cream: Ted endorses this product (Ted doesn't endorse many products!)

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Awesome Ted! Thanks for the review and endorsement! I will keep this stuff in mind!
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My uppers fit well. I use adhesive to keep food out. I use Olivafix on the bottoms for the 12+ hour hold and polygrip on the top
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Excellent way to extend the tube.  I plan to get every last drop out of that sucker too even if I have to cut it open.... which, as a matter of fact, I have done with Cushion Correct.
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