Fixodent without Zinc does not work as well as the original. Why?

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After reading that denture adhesives which contain zinc could be detrimental for ones health, I started buying Fixodent plus without zinc. I am very dissapointed because it does not give the security that the original one did. The denture moves freely after two hours of the application. It does not sealed at all from food either.  I am afraid I will have to go back to the original, but it is scary.
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Patti Howard Greene

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What dose using zinc do to ur health
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Rocg

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Ruins your neurological system, starts with numbness and long term 20years, wheelchair: zinc poisoning.
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Patti

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I wouldn't worry about zinc. We all need it in our diets everyday. Its in multivitamins and green veggies. I know what you mean by the dentures not staying. No matter what I use it comes loose when I eat. Very frustrating.
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Monica Gallien Poole

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Zinc interacts with medications, such as the ones taken for thyroid disease. So it may make a big difference if you are on medication.
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Ruth Ann Rusk

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Zinc in denture powder and creams have been known to cause neuropathy
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Teresa Eaton

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I would worry about .my husbands life is destroyed can barley walk .muscles waist ect ect .its horriifc what it has done to him .the zinc is toxic to your body and strips the copper from your spine leaving your nerves exposed and damaged x
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Butch Daloia

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having a problem lately with balance and walking. been using efferdent for years, thank you for sharing. I hope your husband has improved.
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Mara Jane Fisk

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I think that, like anything else, ingesting too much zinc could be detrimental.  But, I hardly think the amount found in a dental adhesive is going to cause an overdose. 
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Amy I found that too. I tried Secure and it holds.....no zinc in it.
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Amy Allen

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Thanks Jeanne. I will look for Secure next time I am at Walgreens.
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James Gill

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Secure will damage your dentures .The polyvinyl attacks the denture material leaveing you to clean out the material that now is part of your dentures  not good


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Mara Jane Fisk

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Jeanne Roushey, how easy is Secure to remove from the gums after the dentures are taken out?  I've had problems getting residue from Fixodent and other brands out of my mouth.  If I don't, it tears up my disgestive system and throws me into diarrhea.
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I use a teaspoon of organic coconut oil, swish for a few minutes, spit in trash, not in sink, then rinse with water, mouthwash, pretty clean with not much stress. Coconut oil is very healthy, just don't swallow with gook in it. It also cleans out bacteria in your mouth. Google "oil pulling" .....I used it before I had dentures and tried experimentally to see if it would clear out adhesive. Yippee, it worked.
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Why NOT the sink. Is it bad 4 the pipes?
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I don't have a problem at all with the zinc free, it's not so much the denture cream, it's all about how well you dentures are made.
http://fixodentsettlements.weebly.com/1/post/2011/4/fixodent-lawsuits-fixodent-side-effects-and-swit...
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Amy,

I, too, have read about 'zinc poisoning', 'zinc toxicity', and 'zinc overdosing' related to denture adhesives.

For some, this caused panic and hypochondriacal symptoms. "OMG! They poisoned me! I'm gonna die"!

Just so you know, Fixodent (and all other denture products, as well as every other OTC medication/product) has the ingredients AND directions for usage right on the box as required by the FDA ! The problem is that there are people out there who fail to read the lable and/or follow those directions. THAT is what causes the poisoning, toxicity, and overdosing! NOT the product or its ingredients!

Are you aware that plain Asprin can potentially cause abnormal bleeding? Or that Tylenol can potentially cause liver damage? And, although too much dietary vitamin C is unlikely to be harmful, megadoses of vitamin C supplements may cause: diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, heartburn, abdominal bloating and cramps, headache, insomnia and, kidney stones? And caffeine overdose can cause breathing trouble, changes in alertness, confusion, convulsions, diarrhea, dizziness, fever, hallucinations, increased thirst, increased urination, irregular heartbeat, muscle twitching, rapid heartbea, sleeping trouble, and vomiting?

Sometimes denture adhesives contain zinc to enhance adhesion. The zinc was part of a polymer salt that enhanced the product's adhesive properties. It's been replaced with a salt based on calcium, sodium and cellulose gum. So, yes, zinc free products will have decreased bonding capabilities.

Overuse of zinc-containing denture adhesives, especially when combined with dietary supplements that contain zinc and other sources of zinc, can contribute to an excess of zinc in your body; and an excess of zinc in the body can lead to health problems such as nerve damage, especially in the hands and feet. This damage appears slowly, over an extended period of time.

The FDA has not found conclusive evidence that these problems result from using zinc-containing denture adhesive as instructed in the product labeling.

If you are 'scared' to use the products containing zinc, simply avoid them! If you want the secure hold the products with zinc will provide you, use them! But use them AS DIRECTED.

As adults, it is OUR responsibility to know what we are putting into our bodies and what effects they could have. It is also OUR responsibilities to either use or avoid these products as deemed fit for us as individuals.

Shame on me! I rinsed down my Cardizem ( a cardiac med that slows my heart rate) with a cup of coffee containing caffeine, which speeds up my heartbeat! Should I avoid coffee? Absolutely! But, that is a choice I made for myself.

Will I use a denture adhesive containing zinc? Possibly? If the zinc-free product doesn't work for me, I will most likely change. But, I WILL follow the directions on the package!

If you still aren't sure, consult your Primary Care Physician and have a blood level drawn for zinc so you have a baseline to go on.

Remember, if you choose to abuse the product, it is YOUR fault if you develop negative effects, NOT the manufacturer's fault!

You have the information available to you; use it at your discretion.

... Quietly, steps down from my soapbox and refills my coffee cup (by choice).

Fyllis

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 Read again my question. I am asking WHY Fixodent without zinc does not work as well as before. I did not say anything about be afraid of using one with zinc. I also add that I have been using it for almost 15 years and had no problems. And for your information, I am the type that reads constantly as is well informed. So the next time you give your opinion to someone, read the question before you answer it. Thanks
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Amy,

I thought I DID answer your question of,  "WHY Fixodent without zinc does not work as well as before when I wrote: "Sometimes denture adhesives contain zinc to enhance adhesion. The zinc was part of a polymer salt that enhanced the product's adhesive properties. It's been replaced with a salt based on calcium, sodium, and cellulose gum. So, yes, zinc-free products will have decreased bonding capabilities".

I'm sorry if that wasn't satisfactory but, that is all I can tell you based on what I know. If you need a more specific answer, you might need to contact the manufacturer or consult a chemist.

Fyllis


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You mentioned nerve damage in the hands & feet.This is the first of heard of that possible connection. I've been experiencing numbness in my feet & toes so I immediately thought I was becoming diabetic. I went for my physical - No signs of diabetes. Well I've been using Fixodent w/ zinc for about 5 - 6 yrs and many times I end up using extra after dinner because they start getting loose. Though I've wondered if humidity or other weather conditions don't have an effect on my Fixodent because I will go periods of NOT needing extra then, like this week, all of a sudden I'll
need more. I have a few different medical conditions that require occasional doctor visits and I always mention the dental powder w/Zinc with my list of Medicines on the chance that I'll get a sharp assistant or P.A. that says, "Hey, did you know that too much zinc...yada,yada,yada" But no one has even given it a second thought.
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Yes, but sometimes using ‘as directed’ still causes problems and we need to keep update. Zinc bonds better.
Using by directions varies, everyone has different absorption’ and tolerance rates. Some excrete more and faster. There is a lot of variation..
I do buy and use Fixodent original with zinc bc they sell it in a small .35oz/10gm tube for pocket when I leave my house, to carry.
At home and in my toilet kit, regular daily use and touch ups are zinc-free.
I am sorry that people that have used zinc cream have unknowingly given up their health. I appreciate their sharing and will learn from it and share it on. I honor their sacrifice.
Occasionally, it is probably not a big problem. But over time, I would not take any more chances.
The comparison of taking the heart med with some coffee, counteracting it is not valid— it washes out and and the next day you start over. When your nerves are stripped of copper, there is no going back to repair .
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I totally agree with Fyllis on this matter. No zink does not hold as well. We all have opinions on this....which is great. Use what you want that holds the best.
Fyllis just wondering what line of work are you in? Medical...legal...or maybe work for fixodent. You do have a lot of accurate facts. Thank you.
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Thanks Patti. I am a retired nurse and I now work in Customer Service for several International catalogs. I was taught at a young age that if you want to make an informed decision about something, you have to gather information. So, I spend a LOT of time doing research online and at the library. My parents are both deceased but, their wisdom has been instilled in me and I passed it on to my daughter. I have always been an avid reader (Thanks Mom!) and I enjoy "gathering information".
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Sorry Amy if my reply angered you. You are right this was a question that you opened up and i guess we should of just stuck to the question you asked.....well my answer to your question is....how the hell would i know why without zinc does not work as well????  i am not an expert or a scientist. I have only had my dentures for 4 months and all i know is i come on here to get tips and info from others and try to leave some.
right now nothing is working for mine...zinc ...no zinc...secure...fixodent...nothing stays when i eat..
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Amy, I agree, this is a highly stressful and emotional issue. I am so tired of hearing about the people who got dentures and ate steak and corn on the cob that night. I feel like smacking the next one that says that. Losing my teeth that I spent a fortune trying to save and ultimately dealing with dentures has been a life changer. This website has helped me a lot but it doesn't solve every problem. I'd love to know that a company CEO has dentures and totally understands what we are going through. My personal best brand so far has been Secure. However there is room for improvement in all products. Who of us ever thought that one of our must-need products like toilet tissue, would be denture adhesive. Many don't have room in their budget for these products, let alone those that aren't effective.
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I've had this Problem of nothing staying but hopefully what I advise for u will work as it has for me. I use polygrip the green tube(super) and then i sprinkle fixodent powder and it is truly a miracle grip. I hope this works for u. I've advised someone else on this site also. Please let me know if it does for you. Good luck. Laura
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It seems that some people have overused fixodent, and zinc appears to have been removed from cold cures. They don't work any more.  I wondered why my zicam was not working and I think this may explain it.  I bought a zinc supplement and my horrid bronchial cold immediately departed.

I feel very very sorry for the people who have neuropathy without knowing the cause, but because of the few are the majority to be deprived of good OTC medicines?
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You should talk to your dentist about the fit of your dentures. If they fit well any adhesive should work.
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Try SECURE
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Hi Amy! Thanks for your question. I’m sorry that Fixodent Plus TrueFeel has not worked as well for you as Fixodent Original. Our no-zinc-added products are formulated to last all day with one application, just like Fixodent Original. However, since every denture fit is different, it’s definitely possible that one type of Fixodent works better for you than others. If you would, please consider calling our team at 1-855-236-3353. They can discuss your experience and recommend the best Fixodent product for you. Thanks again!
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All I read is on the label to use once a day, all they are saying is that if in 2 hours it does not hold you are screwed and we make more money if you use it again, the hell with your health
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Absolutely. I also plan to get the screw's. But until then the polygrip with the fixodent does wonders for me. Laura
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LOKISSL, I have never thought of using the paste/cream and powder. You are brilliant! I am going tomorrow to get some powder and give it a try. My uppers fit great but I have only had my lowers for a few months so we are still having to do a new soft lining about every 2 months. My dentist does unlimited adjustments (thank God) I will try your suggestion. It sounds like a great plan.
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I had 2 implants with stud - snap attachment to the bottom denture.  The bottom now stays in place better than the top.  At night the top is frequently loose while the bottom is still suctioned in place.  I have been using Fix O dent but plan to try the Secure to escape the Zinc.
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Hi David. Fixodent Plus True Feel denture adhesive cream is free of flavor and colorants and has no zinc added.  It still guarantees a great fit and strong hold to give you a more natural mouth feel. Additionally, it features the Precision Tip Nozzle to give you the control to apply the right amount of Fixodent where you want it while also helping seal out food particles and control ooze. Hang in there and feel better soon!
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David, How long did it take to do your implants and what was the recovery time? I’m very interested in getting implants in the lower jaw. Thanks!
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Melody, My (2) Implants were done by the best Implant center in my area in conjuction with my dentist who is one of the best.  Placing the implant correctly is highly technical.  After the implant heals the dentist does the alignment to your current denture.  The denture alignment is also highly technical.  The denture snaps can be changed for more or less snapping power.  It takes about 4 months for the Implant to heal and the studs to be affixed.  The pain was very bad up to the 4th month.  I had to use a Nutri Bullet 900 and liquefy everything.  Any chewing was too painful.  Wendys Chilli was a good friend. Part of the pain factor was that I had the bottom teeth extracted and the implants on the same day. All the pain was worth it.  I can eat just about anything now.  I'm probably going to get (2) implants placed in the top so that I can eat fruit again.
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I will never worry about zinc because We all need it our diets everyday and our dentist. I recommended to Senthil dental care. they are very friendly and environment wise good. so you need any clarification about dental problems please visit http://www.senthildentalcare.in/contact-us/ 
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