For those with full uppers and lowers - what "Toothpaste" do you use to brush your gums?

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Prior to and during my initial rounds of extractions I was using Crest Pro Health toothpaste. I found as I was going through the process of healing that because of the grit in this toothpaste that I had to be careful with it in extraction areas. Soon after that I switched to Aquafresh, which doesn't have the grit in it. A while after that, I bought a tube of Arm & Hammer Peroxicare with Baking soda and peroxide. I use the Peroxicare at night after I remove my dentures and the Aquafresh prior to putting my dentures back in. I am able to get the adhesive off fairly easy with the peroxicare, although I'm not sure it does a better job than any other toothpaste would.

My question to my fellow full denture wearers out there is -- what kind of toothpaste do you use for your gums? Is there a toothpaste that works better for you than others? It's really just a curiosity question and conversation starter.
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I use Colgate gum care. Orabrush foam to scrape/clean my tongue, an alcohol free mouthwash, and policare toothpaste for the dentures. By the time i rinse my mouth with the mouthwash i dont have any product or grit left in my mouth. I use fixodent powder on my softliner. I have a full upper denture and my extractions and immediate denture was January 27th.
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Good question. I was never told to brush gums. I use coconut oil, mouth wipes, Crest alcohol free mouth wash, and Biotene. I do brush tongue but not every day. What information have I missed?
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I had my upper teeth extracted 3 days ago with immediate denture, can i use biotene for my extremely dry mouth??????
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I have done oil pulling for a long time. But at night after i have done the routine i do 20 minutes oil pulling with a teaspoon of Coconut oil. I find that i wake up with a lot less dry mouth. It is very effective fir reducing bacteria in the mouth. I have a small nodule inside my cheek that a dentist looked at and said it wasn't anything to be concerned about, if i stop pulling it grows again and when i return to the pulling it shrinks. Coconut oil reduces gum inflamation too. I have experienced this repeatedly. Some dentists have had experience with this as well. They instruct their patients to do this routine with the oil and find reduction in inflamation and a healthier mouth. Something about bad bacteria attaching to the fat molecules in the oil and when the oil is spit out it takes bacteria with it. It can be safflower oil or other oils but coconut oil can be tolerated by most people once they get the hang of it. Just some information if you would like to add something else to improve oral health.
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It seems like in the instructions that I took home with me said that after the gums were healed to brush the gums with toothpaste. The first 3 or 4 days just mild rinsing, then toothpaste using a finger, then with a toothbrush after a week or so. I waited longer than they recommended to use a brush.
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@Leslie, could you please explain more about oil pulling? I have never heard the term before.

@Gina, I use Aquafresh & an ultra-soft toothbrush on my entire mouth prior to putting dentures in. My dentures have either been soaking all night in the cleanser, if so I use my dental brush and the soaking liquid to brush with, and then rinse thoroughly OR if I've used a 3- or 15- minute cleanser, I've already done that part, so they are soaking in a different container with water and Crest Pro-Health clear or palest shade of blue I can get. Non alcohol mouthwash for soaking, regular mouthwash for removing adhesive if necessary.

Does anyone know if it matters how your teeth are in your tub? (I.e. teeth together? Gums together? All teeth down/up?) Just curious.

Thanks
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I put my top in first and then the bottom on top. I don't think it matters. You would need separate tubs of you were gonna separate them
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Its very simple. You take a teaspoon (i have a very small mouth ) of oil. Its kind of a push/ pull action. If you dont have any teeth just swish it in your mouth, rub it with your tongue to all surfaces ...if you have teeth you push oil through teeth with tongue and suck it through the teeth gently for 20 minutes and then spit it out in your trash can. You can also Google to find information too. Very simple and effective.
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I have been doing this for two years. It also has other health benefits. It loosens mucus in upper throat, pulls from your lower sinus which will help avoid colds and allergy issues. You can cook with coconut oil but do not swallow what you have swished in your mouth, it contains bacteria which is best out, not back in your system.
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Exactly, i use it for everything. Even Hair treatment packs, elbows, feet...great stuff!!!
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Thanks so much! It will be on this week's grocery list. Is it in the groceries or in health & bèauty?

I'll be trying it this week!

Thanks again?
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Grocery in the oils. Get the Virgin not mixed with aany other oil.
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I use Biotene. I use the mouthwash and toothpaste. This just helps with dry mouth. The reason I use this is because I take medication that causes dry mouth. But it seems ever since I got my dentures I contain so much saliva. I'm constantly swallowing. Lol. But anyways. I use Biotene.
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I wish biotene helped me. Im on 6 meds daily and it works for just a few minutes and im dry again.:(
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Leslie, I have depended on Thera Breath lozenges (they call them mints) I put one in my mouth if I have to talk a lot and after a big drink of water. Yes. Water is actually drying. btw, Have you ever been tested for Sjogren's? I had it for 10 years before diagnosed. That very much contributed to my tooth loss. Extreme dry mouth is a symptom, also dry eye.
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Yes, i have them in my purse, they work ok-ish for me I have been tested about 5 years ago for it because of the same symptoms and others, along with Lupus and MS. They said i have Fibromyalgia by the Rhumatologist and CFS by the Infectious Diseases Dr.
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What is CFS?
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I'm not Leslie, but here are what the acronyms CFS/ME stand for. Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS)/ME is a condition that causes marked long-term tiredness (fatigue) and other symptoms which are not caused by any other known medical condition. CFS stands for chronic fatigue syndrome. Chronic means persistent or long-term. ME stands for myalgic encephalomyelitis.

I can't speak for Leslie, but you can ask me anything about them that you want. I'm not I'm not shy.
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Alicia I'm so glad I read this. I'm 33 and I'm always fatigued. I can fall asleep at night and get up the next day around 2-5 pm. Just depends on what's going on. I'm always tired, moody, depressed. Can't think and I forget sometimes. Maybe I should get this looked at. I'm not shy either! Lol
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I do believe that many of the things that aggravate my symptoms are environmental, multiple chemical sensitivities. We are exposed to these with cleaning /laundry products, food additives in processed foods. ..so much more. So much is lumped into Fibromyalgia. It mimics other illnesses and you should have a thorough work up to make sure it isn't your thyroid etc... Drs.....find a good one that doesn't ignore your symptoms. Quality sleep is so important and seems to be something that can never be attained. Its really tough, but im tenacious and im not someone to back down to Drs when they aren't listening or have a condescending attitude. You have to keep fighting for a proper diagnosis. Google Fibromyalgia and CFS. There are alot of support groups and information.
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@Lizzy - are you sure you aren't shy? I've taken you to be quite the introvert! ROFLMBO

@Leslie - agreed completely! When I first got sick 22 years ago, it took 8 doctors to finally get 2 answers that matched. To this day Fibromyalgia is still not very well understood and they are finding that many CFS/ME diagnosis are actually Vitamin D deficiency or a completely diminished supply in our bodies.

You need an excellent team of doctors, and don't be afraid to interview them! It's your body, you have a right to answes!
You will need an excellent Primary Care - preferably an Internist, a top notch Rheumatologist (preferably with on site lab and radiology) and a very gentle pain specialist!

Let us know if you want to talk more!

Be careful on facebook of some of the support groups, there's a couple that are GREAT and others that are iffy at best. Lol
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I thought maybe CFS stood for Can't Find S**t. ROFLMBO at the doctors, not you guys. I think when they can't find anything else the call it fibromalgia or chronic fatigue syndrom. 
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Exactly. It used to be its all in peoples heads, now everybody gets slapped with that label if they dont want to look anymore. ....this medical system is a failure. Our country is one of the unhealthiest on eqrth for all its supposed technology and superior training. ..we qre the ones that suffer for it because we supposedly dont know our own bodies. ..craziness!
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It was a lot harder 21 years ago! I had one doctor tell my hubby to buy me flowers, take me shopping and buy me something pretty - needless to say, that didn't work!

Another doctor told my hubby to have me committed - we didn't listen. Several doctors later I had an older lady dr that told me to get a tee shirt made thar said "I have a debilitating disease - so F*CK OFF"! Eventually she started selling them herself!

That's really the best way to get the word out!l
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Oh wow! Thats descriptive! I was fortunate enough to have a Dr. who was ahead of the game. He ended being the Head of a hospitals Rhumatology dept. He diagnosed me in the early 90s. My primary Dr. Had also said CFS at that time too because my E. Barr titer levels were through the roof. It truly is debilitating! ! Alot of these Drs. need stripped of their license or serious counseling for their "god" complex....talking about needing an entire semester on sensitivity training!
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You were very fortunate Jodie! I got sick on January 3, 1995. Flu-like symptoms with a fever of (and yes, I know what number I'm typing) 105.8° I couldn't stay awake and could barely form words. Hubby doesn't believe in ER unless there is bone sticking out or you are pumping blood out of a major artery, so I went to PCP the next day and the circus started.

Ok. Wrong support group for that huh? Lol
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@Alicia. .same with me. Early 90s....Deathly sick, high fever, throat absolutely on fire, couldnt breath for it. The ER nurse asked the Dr. what do you think it is..the Dr. said,."I dont know, but do not want it, whatever it is!!"...i never got back to myself after that.
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Leslie, sorry for calling you Jodie earlier. Lol not that Jodie is bad name, just wasn't who I was talking to (I don't think? )

I was able to go into a remission for several years and even went back to work but getting hit the 2nd time was even more depressing I think.

Guess I'll email you tomorrow. I have a couple questions for you.

G'nite All
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So you are no doubt on some strong meds. Just adds to your problems. . Me too.
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I got an email from group moderator that this comment was being removed because it was inappropriate. Anyone feel this is inappropriate?
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Confused? What is inappropriate? ??
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The above is the one they sent me saying that.
In case I get kicked off my email is jjmcc367@yahoo.com
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FYI : I am a 75 year old great grandmom and been an active contributor with NO bad intentions and no inappropriate comments.
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All it talking about strong medications causing such a dry mouth that it adds to dental problems.
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I don't think there's anything wrong about talking about medications which lead to dry mouth. This is a forum for us to be able to discuss things and get input from others. I love getting great info. Hasn't it been for this forum I wouldn't know what cfs is and I thank you all for your great info and advice.
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Yes, apparently moderators are not well educated on causes of dental problems I.e.dry mouth causes.
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Yes, all of the chronic health problems and medications to treat them directly affect oral health which leads to decay, gum disease because we don't have the saliva that helps keep bacteria at bay and leads to persons having to get dentures. Its all related. I see no problem in discussing the things that affect oral health including horrible medications we are stuck on.
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Thanks Leslie and Lizzy for understanding what I said and speaking out.
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Jeanne Roushey, I didn't remove any of your comments. We are happy to check on this for you.
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Maybe they thought we were talking about illicit drugs or whoever this new Official Rep is put it on the wrong post. Who knows?!?

I know that I wouldn't be overweight and without all my teeth if it wasn't for the drugs. I think THAT should be on warning labels "may cause tooth loss"!
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Absolutely! !! That should be on the label!!!
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Yes, miserable! ! Hate them!
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ME TOO! I feel like I should just pour some milk on my bowl 4 times a day and just call my drugs my meals.

Leslie, I'd love to chat with you about health issues, maybe chat or email. I give Rosie permission to provide you with my email.

Please let me know. you are interested.

Ttyl
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I think i have it from the comfort lining thing maybe. Ill check
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Does your main part of your email end in the number 9? If so, I have yours =)
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Yes
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Thanks for all the interesting input. I hadn't thought about the coconut oil. Maybe I give that a try. Biotene is something that I might try too. I get dry mouth quite a bit now. Thera breath lozenges too. I notice that especially during the day at work my mouth gets really dry and drinking water or something else helps for a little while but not long.

Someone had posted about Ice Breaker chews on another thread too, but more along the lines of getting the saliva going to get suction on uppers where adhesive isn't being used.

There really is so much too becoming a denture wearer. All our experiences provide a wealth of information for those just starting the process. I'm only 5 1/2 months from the date of my first extractions and I'm starting to feel like an "expert", at least on the specific things that I have experienced. This board has provided me with so much knowledge!
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Gina, I was the one that mentioned the Ice Breackers. They are flat and have helped me get my saliva going again too. Biotene is just so expensive to me and I can go to Sam's Club and purchase a big box for not much more than 2 things of Biotene.

I'm just a really bad cheapskate lol
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Alicia -- I can relate to that. And now I do remember that it was you that posted about the ice breakers. I think I am going to try those. I think they may be helpful while I am at work.
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Let me know what you think of them. The nice thing is that they are flat, so you can easily slide them between your cheek and teeth, when you need to talk. They are chewable, like a gum, but dissolve like a mint.

Good luck! I know dry mouth was a huge part of why I lost my teeth, and thanks to meds I still have the dry mouth.
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Glad for the Ice Breaker tip, never heard of them. Hope I can find them, not a Sam's Club member.
I was told FOR TEN YEARS THAT MY DRY MOUTH AND TEETH LOSS WAS FROM MEDS......IT WAS NOT, IT WAS FROM SJOGREN' S. Just putting this info out there.
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Gina2, I knew so little about dentures when I got mine on January 25 of this year I actually asked my dentist if I could use floss on them and he just looked at me and said no.
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I need to do some research on Sjogren's. I know that t have heard it through one of my Dr's, I just don't remember when or which dr.

You can probably find the mints at Walmart, Walgreens, or any place like that, up by the register.

Good luck
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I've seen them at walmart. Thanks for the tip.
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Elizabeth, I asked the same question about flossing. Especially since we can no longer "feel" food on our teeth & gums!

But you know what? It's better to ask if you don't know! I maintain that the only foolish questions are the ones we don't ask!
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They used to make these little disposable "toothbrush" things called Wisps (I think) I think I'm going to see if they are still available and if they are, I think those would work to get the food off when you can't to a private bathroom.
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I still see them sometimes at Big Lots. /Odd Lots and Dollar General too.
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That's a great idea! I've seen them around. Thanks for te info
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That's good to know that they are still around! Now that we can't "feel" food on our teeth, we have to be extra careful! Lol
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You know that I haven't had teeth for about 8 years and now that I have my dentures I still don't remember what it was like to feel food on my teeth. So now that I eat it feels weird cuz I haven't chewed in so long. Guess it's something I gotta get used to
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Congrats...bet your smile is great. It gets easier
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I found the Colgate Wisps on Walmart.com and Amazon.com. They are a little cheaper through Amazon.com
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Thanks Jeanne.
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These r my immediates. Won't get my perm until 3 more months
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Lizzy, what a beautiful smile! But then again you are a beautiful young woman!
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Really lovely!
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You look beautiful!!!
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Thank u
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Flossing dentures. That made me laugh just a little.
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Thanks Alicia p
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A really good toothpaste that I use is, Aquafresh Extreme clean. Foams up really nice and has a nice citrus taste as well.
You can also use it to brush your dentures. :)