Glue not holding all day and the fixodent package says to only use once a day.

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I recently got my full upper and lower dentures. After almost 4 months of no teeth I was excited to say the least. My dentures were loose from the start which my dentist said was because I have so little bone structure for them to grip onto. I went and purchased Fixodent plus superior hold. I have had issues from the start with the cream not holding the whole day. I read the package and it says not to use more than once a day. How is one supposed to eat with dentures that flop around and you can't apply more adhesive? Any suggestions???
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Fire your Dentist !!
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Mine does the same thing. So fustrating. And g etting the stuff out of the mouth is horrible. I have to dig it out with my finger nails. Can anyone help ?
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Wow I go through hell trying to ge it off roof of my mouth too!
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Just a heads up for anyone having problems with swollen red burning mouth and lips. Also causing stomache problems...i wasnt aware that when using denture adhesive that contains zinc can only be used once a day. I used mine several times a day and it caused zinc poisoning, i thought it was an allergy at first, but later realized it wasnt an allergy, but just too much zinc. Please dont use zinc adhesives more than once a day, life will be miserable, especially when it hurts so much you cannot eat or drink.
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You might want to use an adhesive that isn't a cream
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I use zinc products.  Really important that your gums and dentures are completely dry before use.  Put them in and hold them in place for 5 seconds then bite down for 5 seconds so they seat properly.  Don't eat or drink for 10 minutes after putting them in.   
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Get dental implants.
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Ann Marie Apel

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Get dental implants. Yeah ok. Some of us cannot afford implants. That's why we have dentures in the first place.
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Try SECURE PASTE AND STRIPS call them sometimes they will send samples.  I have the same prob only bottom no bone.  That is the problem.  Not so much the dentures which btw I HATE.
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Thank you both!
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They No Longer Make Cushion Grip. But there is an alternative. It's like cushion grip sandbox called Cushion Correct. It's Made In Japan But You Can Find It On Amazon. Just search "Cushion Correct". They also Make an ez formula that supposed to be easier to apply and remove but I found it Doenst stick as well to the gum. I also have bone loss and my lower plate won't stay secure but the cushion correct does just that. Try it you won't be sorry. Dump the fixodent or any other paste they never work. Secure worked somewhat but now that I found cushion correct I can bite,chew,talk,sing and whistle. Good Luck
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Shionogi Cushion Correct EZ Denture Grip Adhesive - 30g https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KQJSEKC/...
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Shionogi Japan CUSHION CORRECT Denture Adhesive 36g https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KCA7BKO/...
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Jennifer Tharalson

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I purchased some cushion correct but can't read the instructions. It appears I put it on then heat it up with water prior to putting teeth in?
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I've bought cushion correct also. I asked the seller to send me English instructions and they did. I have yet to use it tho cuz Idk if I can use with soft reline or not and afraid to mess it up. Lol. If any1 knows please let me know. But English instructions say apply to denture then wet it then put in and bite down. Supposed to last 4 or 5 days. Then to get it off run under hot water and peel it off.
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I use Cold Water and a Chop Stick and Tweezers to remove it.
It gets brittle when colder and is easier to remove IMHO. 
Depending on what I eat I usually get 7-10 days out of it.
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Ok so I just noticed I've been saying polident powder when its poli grip. Lol. Sorry guys. Just mind boggled by all the different types and brands.
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Secure is an amazing product!
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You can use it several times a day. If you are concerned about zinc, purchase the kind without. I use secure or fixodent without the flavoring. With fixodent, you have to replace at least once a day. Mine was more than that.
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I use zinc free adhesive
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I have a similar problem mostly with my lowers. Once the dentist put the permanent lining in it helped a little. I use a mix. First I make sure my treeth are really dry before I add the adhesive. I use the secure paste. Then I add fixedident powder in a light coat over top.. That works from 6 a till about 4 p. I have reapplied on my bottoms when they loosen. I have also accepted there are just things I can't eat any more too. Without pins holding my denture in place Hogies (subs) are out, s are nuts, and anything I have to take a bite into.. Small pieces, especially of well cooked meat is a little easier. Unfortunately, test was the sacrifice I made to be pain free and to have solid smile for the first time in years.
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I use polident and it holds all day for me.  I can bite into sub sandwiches, pizza, burgers, etc without a problem.
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I also use polident. The powder. It lasts all day and I can bite most everything. Lol. I recently got secure sample and am trying today. So far it hold really well but I feel like I used too much maybe. Lol. But polident powder is my favorite still
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Thank you! Does the polident powder leave a oily feeling in your mouth like the polident cream?
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Not at all. It feels a lot better than any thing else I've tried. Lol. And easiest to clean up. I tried secure for 1st time today. Its for sure secure hold just feels thick under denture and its after 10 and I'm beginning to worry if I will get it loose. Lol. But the polident powder is really what I like the best so far as far as working and feeling.
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Yes I have bone cut down on lowers so having trouble with fixodent holding. Considering the secure hold or polident powder
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just a little fyi , if you will take 2x2 gauze squares and rub them across the roof of your mouth and the gums it will remove the powder adhesive simply without a bunch of mess , and i assume it will work with cream also.....
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I use the Guaze pads also to remove the adhesive.
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Nothing holds my bottoms.  The answer is to have bone.  So I use Secure and it stays but I I eat I am dead.
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Shionogi Japan CUSHION CORRECT Denture Adhesive 36g https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KCA7BKO/...
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This product Works To hold Dentures Securely to the gum and created a seal between denture and gum to hold them in place. It's water proof you can eat and drink with it in .easy application no sticky mess and it lasts for days and you can even remove your denture and replace without reapplying it's called Cushion Correct And Find It On Amazon Ots made It Japan and Like The Now Discontinued Cushion Grip Try It I have Extensive bone Loss On My Lower And This Works great
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Does it contain Zinc?
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Curious why zinc or not since zinc is healing? 
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I'm going to have to order this. Nothing else really works for my lowers. 
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can you soak this overnight in a denture bath?  Do you line the denture with it then apply a denture adhesive on top of it?
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Yes and yes.
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So is the Cushion Correct worth getting?
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Yes.  It's awesome.
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I just got my stitches removed today and a soft reline for the first time. It feels a little tighter but as I was eating dinner this evening, still eating soft pasta..I tried to chew it some, and dentures were a bit floppy. I can imagine if I try to eat anything that I have to chew a bit more I'll need some adhesive on them. Came here to see what everyone is recommending before I drop money on stuff that I don't really have to be spending. Was hoping the dentist would give me samples to try but no luck there. He said to just try this reline first..I think I'll need something else though.

Do companies offer samples to try their products out before you buy them? And what's this Cushion correct stuff like? Does it actually work better than otc adhesive stuff we can buy here?
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I use Cushion Correct and Secure Adhesive.
Cushion Correct is like a Soft Liner you can do yourself.
I've been using both products for about 15 months.
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Thanks Ted. You use both these products together? And both you can only order online?
I'll look into getting them if they seem to work. I can't wait to be able to eat a good meal again and not worry about these bottoms flying out!
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You should be seeing your dentist more often. Dentures are only good for 4-5 years and need relining in-between. If they don't fit from the beginning, see your dentist, again and again till he is tired of seeing your face and finally fixes them right.  Your gums are constantly changing, something that can't be fixed with adhesive. Think of your dentures like the tires on your car. Maintenance, rotation and replacement. -  Never had a real problem in my 25 years with dentures. -  If your dentist is blowing you off with excuses spend some quality time in his waiting room and share your experience with the other waiting patients. Works like a charm. 
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Try SECURE
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I am in 4 weeks of getting top and Bottom Dentures. I have gone back twice to get the Soft liner put in. It will not stay attached on the sides. I had to rip it out on count of flopping in my Mouth. My Dentures will not fit tight now. I have used Polident, Fixodent and the Powder nothing seems to work. I went today and got the Soft liner kit to do myself. Is that a good idea?
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Mary I LOVE polident powder extra strength its amazing to me. I called secure and asked for a sample and they sent me whole tube. I've used it for first time today and it works extremely well too. I've had in since 9am and I just ate supper and its still holding really well. Hoping I don't have hard time removing tonight. Lol. If u Google secure dental adhesive and then call they will prob send sample too. A lot of ppl on here say the powder adhesive or secure is the best and I do agree. Good luck finding 1u like. I tried everything in first couple weeks but now month in and the powder or secure is what I'm sticking with. This has been a trial and error adventure for me and I'm sure for and everyone else. Lol
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Thanks Melanie! Where did you find the polident powder? I looked at the grocery store and Walgreens ealier today and couldn't find it at either one. I'm sure it'll be trial and error with me as well. Sure different things work better for different people as we're all different in ways. I just can't wait for the day I can have a good meal again! I tried to chew up some very tender chicken for dinner tonight and bottoms popped right out, so definately need more than just this liner.

My gums are still pretty tender, do you think I need to wait longer before trying to use any adhesive on my dentures? I actually have one small spot that is still swollen, the surgeon had trouble removing a tooth there, and I have to go back in two weeks to make sure it has healed okay.

By the way, Did you try that cushion correct stuff today? How did that work for you? I'm a bit leary when ordering online from somewhere overseas, so want to make sure it's worth it.
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Mary I got the polident powder at dollar general. Lol. And I haven't used cushion correct yet. Didn't have time this morn but I will tomorrow. I'm say way about buying stuff overseas but everyone seems to love the stuff so decided to buy at least once. I will post in morn as soon as i try and let u know. Also I started using adhesive on pallet the day I got teeth pulled then all over 2 days after stitches removed. But if u R concerned about any areas maybe try to keep adhesive from that area.
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Yeah I'm just not sure. Little concerned with that area being swollen still, so probably wouldn't use anything on that spot for a bit longer. My top ones seem pretty snug so I don't know if I would need any adhesive on them. Definately can't wait to hear how the cushion correct goes for you!
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Mary ok so I tried the cushion correct this morn. So far it kinda feels like I got a soft reline. So for now I really like it. Will see by this afternoon
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Awesome Melanie. Hope it stays put the rest of the day for you!
I woke this morning with bad pain in the roof of my mouth, denture digging into it pretty bad. So another trip to see him for an adjustment I guess. May as well have a permanent chair for me there lol.
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So its late evening and still really really liking cushion correct!!!! Will b buying more!
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That's great Melanie! Did you use it in combination with anything?
I tried polident powder today, the dentist actually gave me some. It worked great for about 5 hours. I don't know if it was because he didn't out much in them or if it was because I had something to eat and drink. But the hold was great! I will definitely be buying some of that!
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I didn't use with anything else but I think it might kinda like reline and might need adhesive in a day or 2. The cushion correct is supposed to last 4 to 5 days tho. And yea I love the polident powder. Will what I use. With and without cushion correct. Lol.
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That is great! Thanks for the review Melanie! You all are such a huge help to me. I have no clue what I'm doing with these dentures. I just want them to be as comfy as they can be and I want to be able to talk and eat a decent dinner without them flopping around my mouth! Or flying out when I cough lol. Definitely going to pick up some Polident powder tomorrow and looking into ordering some cushion correct to keep in hand for when I need it.
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I use the Powder its great. I purchased mine at Allcare. I had 7 Teeth pulled and got Dentures that Day. I have had Problems now that my Gums and Mouth has shrinked. The top Denture stays in place but the bottom still not fitting correct. I go back the 23rd for the Gel. I'm praying it will be to where I can eat Solid Food. I'm still eating soft Foods. I'm so ready for a big plate of Catfish.
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What is Gel?
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Joan I was wondering the same thing.
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Confused you go back on the 23rd for the GEL.  Did the dentist mention GEL.
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I may have misunderstood her, the Hyngenist. Not sure exactly what I'm getting done to my Dentures. Maybe you all could help me out here. I do know she said I would more satisfied. Would it happen to be a Soft reline?
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Oh and I've bought the cushion correct but haven't used yet cuz Idk if its ok with soft reline or not. Don't wanna mess it up. Hoping sum1 on here knows if its ok or not
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I used it in my soft lining without any issues.
https://youtu.be/NFr8sOzcR6M?list=PLMe2Ai0pJ2ksltFd8IEDqYzv4OYmHyaK7
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Ted thank u so much! I've had the cushion correct for few days but was scared to try. When u go to remove it it doesn't hurt or tear the soft reline? Does it work well? I will b giving it a try in morn if its safe on reline! Thank for YouTube link!
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Ted also for upper denture do I put cushion correct on whole denture or just on gum line? Lol.
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I use it on the gum line and pallet on my upper.  I start with a bit a little bigger than a Pea and work it down and forward from the pallet part of my upper.
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Ok thank u ted!!! I will b trying it tomorrow!!! Thank u so much!!!
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You're welcome!  It does take some experimenting to get the technique down perfectly.   It may take a try or two, but you'll be able figure it out.
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Is it normal for it to burn right away???
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I've noticed a slight burning too but it goes away fairly quickly. For me it did.
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I'm not sure if I didn't use enough or what but the bottom ones are still coming loose. Should I just apply more or peel it out and start over? Uhhhhh I hate bone loss!
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Yeah, that would be the Alcohol used to keep it soft in the tube.  Goes away quickly.

http://www.shionogi-hc.co.jp/wellness/medicine/denture/ccrtez/doc/ccrtez_1_en.pdf

Unlike Comfort Lining, Shionogi actually lists their ingredients.  
All Safe and FDA Approved through reciprocity with Japan.

Ingredients:  Polyvinyl acetate resin, dehydrated ethanol, Red No.102 (contains alcohol) A major ingredient of Cushion Correct EZ, polyvinyl acetate resin which is also used in chewing gum, is not dissolved by saliva etc., hardens gradually and remains on dentures
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Similar stuff in Secure.  They also list their ingredients:

What are the main ingredients of Secure Denture Adhesive?

Sodium Carboxymethylcellulose:
This ingredient derives from Cellulose. Cellulose is produced from trees or cotton wool. The supplier of the ingredient of Secure adhesive is using Scandinavian fir and spruce exclusively for our ingredient as we insist on very high quality.

Polyvinylacetat (PVA): 
PVA is completely inert, non allergic, does not affect the taste and cannot be absorbed. Polyvinylacetate is a very common ingredient in chewing gums and registered as substance for chewing gum base in Europe as well as in the USA. 

Secure was developed and is sold in Austria as Fittydent.

http://www.securedenture.com/faqs.aspx#1

I don't use products that refuse to list their ingredients. 

Like COMFORT LINING for example!

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This Adhesive from Germany works really well too.
Available on Amazon or eBay.
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Jennifer:  Cushion Correct is NOT an Adhesive.  It's a filler like a soft lining.
If it's not sticking to the Denture, make sure the Denture is really dry.
When forming to your gums bite down on it firmly for 5 minutes or so and then take it out and let it dry for a little bit.  
Add some adhesive, pop it back in and you should be good to go!
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Thank you Ted! I feel like an idiot... I'm feeling like I will never find anything to hold my bottom ones in.
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We're all here to Learn new stuff! No idiots here. Well a few, but not you! LOL
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I just ordered sum of the protefix off eBay. Won't b here for 2 weeks to month tho. But gonna try it!!!
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It's interesting.  You actually put it on and wet it.  Yes, WET IT.
Nothing else like it that I've ever found?  (Not tried Olivafix $$$ yet)
Pretty much the exact opposite of Secure which is best applied dry.  Very dry.
Nice to have options!
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I use SECURE but really what is the best?
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I've found what works for one person my not be ideal for another when it comes to dentures.  Personally I've tried almost everything out there with the exception of Olivafix (Switzerland) and I just ordered some of that.  Secure is my "Go To" adhesive.  Protefix is my second favorite.  If you REALLY want to "CEMENT" them in, try this "Crazy Glue" method outlined here from a friend of mine:  

Some occasions call for cementing in the dentures - mainly my lower partial. I accomplish this by using both paste adhesive and powder.

I call this paste and powder combo "crazy glue".

First put in the paste (I use Poligrip). I squeeze a bit in and then kind of smooth it around with my finger. After that I lightly spray with water and then sprinkle on Fixodent or Wernets powder (spread that by sort of shaking the denture lightly - kind of like flouring a cake pan). Then, lightly spray with water again and place in your mouth. 

I used this on my lower partial whenever I know I'm going out for a sticky, chewy meal. For me, this holds quite tightly and often I can't get it out when I am ready to go to bed. Usually it comes out in the morning after a cup of hot tea.

Update

I thought I would add another little tidbit of information ....

Another combination that works for me is to use Poligrip Strips in my lower and then sprinkle a bit of Fixodent powder over them. It really keeps my lower in place and keeps all the food particles out. I've had that lasting me all day - three meals and a snack - and it is still in snug at the end of the day! 

Poligrip strips seem to work well on their own, too, and they are highly portable since they come in little individual packets. The strips help fill in those areas that may be a bit open from shrinkage, at least until the next reline.

REMINDER: Just remember that you do NOT want to use paste adhesives until your extraction sites are healed! Until then stick with just powder or wafers!

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Ted!! Thank u!!! I've been wondering about using both at once but was scared!!!! Lol. Now I know others have and i will give it try!! Thank u!!!
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I was just wondering this last night! If using both would make a stronger all day hold. I didn't know if it would make too strong of a hold, definitely want to be able to take these things out once a day! I was going to ask earlier but it slipped my mind. Thanks Ted!
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Ted: Let me give you some credit, too. I think I'm headed for an adhesive as well, and your insights are most valuable. Thank you. Joseph
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You're welcome Joseph.   I've gleaned lots of info from various Forums, Facebook Groups, Web Searches and, of course, my favorite - Personal Experimentation.  Most of this information is NOT original.  I just compiled "the best of what works for me here."  Feel free to ASK ANYTHING and I'll do my best to answer.
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I use polident extra strength powder for normal everyday but I got secure about week or so ago. It held so good like cement I've decided it will b used when we go anywhere. Lol. Like out to eat family functions etc. The powder tho works really well for me. But I also have ordered sum of the protofix. Will let everyone know. I'm fairly new to dentures so I'm trying everything and open to all suggestions
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I just called Secure yesterday and should get a free sample box in the mail in week or two. She said there would be a small tube, a few of the strips and cleaners in it also. All companies should do this! It would help a lot of people out when trying the different products.
I've been using the polident powder that you recommended to me and it has been working great for me! I'm still doing the salt water rinses a few times a day (because of a bit of swelling still hanging around) so I don't leave my dentures in all day yet.
Can't wait to hear about the protofix!
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Awesome mary! Sounds like what they sent me. And its not really small tube. Its about size of fixodent tubes. And as strong as it holds should last a while! I'm excited for u to try!!
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Could I use SECURE and powder?
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Maybe?  In my experience Secure works best when dry.  I sometimes even take a Microfiber Cloth and dry my gums and pallet before putting my dentures in with Secure.  Since you generally moisten powders slightly, it could be self-defeating? 

Protefix and Powder would be a better combination or stick with one of the domestic "cream-type" products and powder or strips.

You could always try it and let us know!   Everyone is different.   Experimenting is allowed.  Heck, I encourage it!  :-)
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Another thought:

As we each progress on this Denture Journey, it seems most people I know end up with "The Box" of products we've tried and didn't like or don't use.  This is what I have left AFTER passing my "Box" on to another new denture wearer.  I can only laugh at this point!

(I am bummed my Minion Toothbrush just died though)

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Omg! Ted mine is beginning to look like that too!! Lol. And we live in a small town so I drove my husband crazy going to all 3 stores here then 5 stores in next town looking for denture stuff. Lol
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That's funny...   I forgot the two boxes of Fixodent Cleaning Tablets!  They're under the sink in the back.  I use those and Blue Dawn (Dentist's & her Lab Tech's recommendations) in the Ultrasonic Cleaner.  And then there's my "on the go" kit I keep in my briefcase or backpack.  

I have "issues" with Amazon.  They must love me! lol

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Lol. I have same "issues" with eBay. Lol. They have little ultra sonic cleaners say for jewelry and dentures. Is that the right thing?
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Since I mentioned Amazon, here's a list of the items I ACTUALLY use:

http://a.co/12KcPOO
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Yes...  they've got them on eBay too.  They're great.  The first few days I was cleaning Jewelry, Keys, Razor Blades, Kitchen Stuff, the Cat....  well, not the Cat  :-)
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Well... Going eBay again. Lol. Gotta have 1.
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Ok so just ordered 1 but everything comes from China or Hong Kong so will b few weeks. ol
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Now my wife says I need to stop posting because I'm being a bad influence or some b.s. like that?  Did I FORCE you to go the eBay and go shopping?  
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Lol. Nope. I LOVE eBay lol
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Trial and error is the name of the game. The poligrip adhesive cream has oil in it and I can't stand the oily feel in my mouth that it leaves once removed. Yes it eventually does go away. So now I look at ingredients before buying. The super Poligrip strips did not have oil in the ingredients list but I still had the same feeling after removal. I have requested a sample of Secure and am eagerly waiting for it to show up! I have not tried any of the powders yet but that is going to be my next purchase. What I have now is the fixodent plus which holds my uppers in all day long but the lowers come out as soon as I try to eat. My husband is getting a new partial so I will keep all the things that don't work until he has time to try them then will pass on to my dad for him to try. I am feeling hopeless at this point with my lowers because I have so much bone loss. But have a few more options to try. I now have a new answer to the question sometimes asked, what would you do if you won the lottery? I'd buy tooth implants!!!
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So do I bone loss is a big prob for lower dentures holding.  Tell me how SECURE worked for you.  I use it but its good for a couple of hours eat or drink no good so I press down on my bite.  I hate dealing w them has totally changed my life.
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Sometimes less is more with Secure.  Dry the Dentures Completely.  Spread it out as thin as possible.  Take a Microfiber cloth or whatever you have and dry your gums and pallet before inserting your dentures.  You make notice a little "burn" from it the first couple times you use it.  The lowers are my "problem child" and always loosen before my upper.   This technique works for me?

I bought a 24 pack of them at Home Depot for under $10.  I wash them in Hot Water, NO Fabric Softener and NO Dryer Sheet in the Dryer.   They're good for drying gums/pallet, cleaning Secure from your Dentures, Gums and Pallet after you remove them, Dusting, Drying the Car, etc.  
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Actually we have a COLOR CODE system at our house.  Anything OTHER than BLUE is for Dentures only!

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So... I tried the cream adhesive with sum powder sprinkled on this morn and that stuff is STILL stuck on like gorrila glue!
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Jennifer, I just said that tonight about winning the lottery! I would pay some bills off, go on a much needed vacation, put some in savings and get implants!

That's awesome Melanie! That gives me hope that I can find a great match to keep mine in all day also! Although the polident powder has been working pretty good for me so far, but I'm still taking mine out halfway through the day to do salt water rinse for few more days at least. So I honestly don't know how long it would hold for me, longest has been 6 1/2 hrs, which was fabulous so far!

So I know some of you are ahead of me in your time living with dentures, question for you all..Have you gotten to the point where your dentures are somewhat comfortable in your mouth? Do they still feel huge? I know I've read it can take a year for your mouth to completely heal, and gums to adjust/shrink and all. I'm not even to my 3 week officially(only 19 days so far) but I have had so many adjustments from the dentist, all on my lowers and still feel so uncomfortable at times, like they're digging into my front of my mouth, making it feel like it is buldging out my lip also, pinching my gums in the back of my mouth just today. I know they won't feel 100% comfortable for awhile, but I feel I've had to get so many adjustments so far. Is that sort of normal? Also if I leave the top out overnight, it hurts and is sort of tough to get back in, in the morning, feels like I'm really squeezing them into my gums. So I've been leaving the top out for just a few hours to clean and then pop those back in the rest of the night. The bottoms I leave out all night and don't have problems getting them back in.
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Jennifer, I just said that tonight about winning the lottery! I would pay some bills off, go on a much needed vacation, put some in savings and get implants!

That's awesome Melanie! That gives me hope that I can find a great match to keep mine in all day also! Although the polident powder has been working pretty good for me so far, but I'm still taking mine out halfway through the day to do salt water rinse for few more days at least. So I honestly don't know how long it would hold for me, longest has been 6 1/2 hrs, which was fabulous so far!

So I know some of you are ahead of me in your time living with dentures, question for you all..Have you gotten to the point where your dentures are somewhat comfortable in your mouth? Do they still feel huge? I know I've read it can take a year for your mouth to completely heal, and gums to adjust/shrink and all. I'm not even to my 3 week officially(only 19 days so far) but I have had so many adjustments from the dentist, all on my lowers and still feel so uncomfortable at times, like they're digging into my front of my mouth, making it feel like it is buldging out my lip also, pinching my gums in the back of my mouth just today. I know they won't feel 100% comfortable for awhile, but I feel I've had to get so many adjustments so far. Is that sort of normal? Also if I leave the top out overnight, it hurts and is sort of tough to get back in, in the morning, feels like I'm really squeezing them into my gums. So I've been leaving the top out for just a few hours to clean and then pop those back in the rest of the night. The bottoms I leave out all night and don't have problems getting them back in.
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Mary: I'm 46 days in, and I have an appt for a reline tomorrow. They still feel like a foreign object, but they are getting more comfortable each day. I still get hot spots, but it's more discomfort than pain. I'm going to call this progress.

I think you are through the worst of it, although I know the full lower is a real challenge. I still remove and soak both the full upper and lower partial each night, and that's working for me.

I had 3 adjustments for just my upper in the first
21 days, so if you had 6 for both uppers and lowers I'd say you are probably doing fine. I think it's important to remember that each of us is unique, and a good dentist knows that. There is no such thing as a good, impatient dentist. The challenges each of us faces are life-changing, and you -all of us for that matter - deserve a little indulgence. My dentist agrees with me wholeheartedly on that point. It's why I'm grateful to have her.

Tomorrow is an important day, and I'll let you know how it goes. If the reline works on the immediate denture, then I may not need an adhesive. If it doesn't I'm going to be following your and Melanie's advice.

Bottom line: I think you are progressing pretty much as I did, and I'm so happy to be rid of those lousy teeth that these inconveniences we're experiencing are worth it. Good luck and keep the faith. You will be rewarded for your patience. Joseph
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Mary:  Our immediate dentures are the Dentist's/Dental Lab Tech's "best guess" of what our gums are going to look like post extraction.  The way you describe your fit does not seem right to me.  Unless you had some MAJOR shrinking in 19 days, it sounds to me like something is either (a) off with the fit from the beginning or (b) the Dental Lab/Denturist made a poor guess.  

I would discuss this possibility firmly and politely and possibly even request new impressions be made so the Lab can see your issues in 3D.  

We all have that "I've got a freakin' Hockey Puck in my Mouth Feeling" for a while at first, but your case seems to be especially troublesome.   Keep pushing for them to get this right for you.   You didn't pay for something that is not functional and comfortable.  IMHO. 
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Ted: I agree with you. I've had a relatively easy time of it so far. I usually try to stay positive, and that might cause me to underestimate the difficulties others are facing. That's why I say listen to your dentist, not to me.

Mary/Melanie/et.al.: Mary, I think Ted is right. A half dozen followup trips to the dentist in the early weeks does not seem excessive to me, but I guess it depends on the reason. Just got back from the dentist. She's trying to help me save the bottoms for all the reasons that you understand very well. She said she didn't think I needed a reline at this point and that it is a good thing to minimize the number of relines.

I see her again in 3 months, and I will see her every 3 months going forward. Eventually I will get a permanent reline, but that is probably 9 months down the road. In the meantime, she said to use a small amount of adhesive on the top and to call the office if anything changes. I'm down to one hot spot that she thinks is caused by a bone fragment, and she just asked if it was pain or discomfort. I said discomfort, and she let me go. Mary, I hope that is all you are experiencing. If it's pain - and we all know the difference - get help as Ted has suggested.

I know I'm lucky compared to many. I had an upper partial for years that covered my palate, so the transition was easier to a full denture. I also had an established relationship with the same high quality dental lab my dentist did. Nor was money an issue. All of this makes me more than sympathetic with those who are having trouble, and I hope things quickly get better for all of you.

My mother got upper and lower dentures when she was 27 because of an allergic reaction to an antibiotic, and I never knew her without them. It was never obvious to anyone, and she had a great life. She was in the hospital once, and they lost her dentures, which happens way too often. She was furious. I am a retired hospital administrator, and yes it was my hospital. I tell you this just in case you wind up in a situation that requires you to be hospitalized - even as an outpatient. Tell the nurses that you want to know where your dentures are all the time.

My mother's lifetime of denture wear should be an inspiration for all of us, and I will try to get a picture of her uploaded and explain how she managed. She was a young woman when she lost her teeth, and I've seen on this chat that younger women are especially concerned with the transition so early in life. She made it work, so we all can. Joseph
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Mary~ I feel as tho I am in a different boat as yourself, Ted, Melanie and Joseph as far as healing, fit and adjustments. So let me tell you all my story I started with needing a few extractions I went into the dentist for routine extractions and left with one tooth out (plus some jaw bone) hysterical and crying so hard I could not see straight. After calming down I drove the hour drive home. I returned a few days later with a dry socket which I know can happen, a horrendous fear/phobia of dentists and a new appointment to get a referral to go see the oral surgeon for the rest of the extractions done. At the referral appointment it was determined that all my back teeth upper and lower needed to be removed. At the oral surgery consultant my husband and I decided we would opt for being put to sleep even tho it would cost us $500. As I was waking up from the surgery the surgeon asked me to be quiet (I was crying/moaning from pain) because I was scarring the other patients, he was still sewing my incisions up at that time which added to my phobia after that! After those extractions I did not have partials because some of my front teeth needed work done to them and I had to wait for my insurance company to prior authorize the partials. As all of this was going on we were in the process in moving to help take care of my dad who was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease and Lewy Body dementia and health is declining fast
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Jennifer: Your hands are full, and you have my prayers. There are 2 things I would say to you. Do not let caring for someone else compromise your health. That happens all too frequently when caring for parents or spouses facing end-of-life diseases, like LBD, Alzheimer's or even Parkinson's.

I used to tell those with life-threatening illness in their families that no one is so young and healthy they couldn't die tomorrow, and no one is so sick they couldn't live another day. Take it one day at a time, and take care of yourself. Joseph
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Ditto that Joseph.  
You can't help others if you don't take care of your own basic needs first.  
Dry Socket... I hear that is VERY PAINFUL!  
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Joseph & Ted, thank you for your input. I appreciate it all very much!
I guess if I really look at the big picture I haven't been to have as many adjustments as I think. I counted the visits and they're were 6 visits so far since I've gotten the immediate dentures. Two of them back to back and probably should of been handled at once but My fault and they weren't. I have a fabulous dentist! He has been my mother in laws and a lot of their family's dentist for over 20 yrs. He gave me a great deal with the dentures and all the visits. Or at least I believe it is a great deal. We basically have paid for the dentures and two office visits. I had several visits before the extractions also that were covered under this too. I have no insurance so it has been all out of pocket. The extractions were separate through an oral surgeon. I will definitely stay on top of this getting right fit for me as I agree I paid for it to be comfortable and to work for me.
My discomfort in the back of my mouth seems to be gone today, so I'm blowing that one off for now. I go back tomorrow for a checkup and will have him adjust the front again as it stills feels as they are pushing my front of my mouth out some. I don't have pains really unless I leave the tops out all night then as I said before it is a little painful to put them in, in the morning.
I do agree Joseph, all these inconveniences, issues and such are all worth it to have those horrible, infected crud in my mouth! I just have to remind myself to be patient and take this a day at a time!
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Jennifer...take care of yourself! You won't be here to take care of anyone if you don't out yourself and health first! I am so sorry to hear of your experience with your denist and surgeon. That is horrible and they both sound like they need better manners with the patients! As far as you waking up, they should of given you enough medicine for you to remain asleep until after your surgery was all complete. I was put to sleep as well and didn't wake up until 15 minutes after they were totally finished, but I guess every extraction is different and every one handles being put to sleep different.
Hang in there and don't spread yourself too thin! Take care of yourself!
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I have had my upper dentures and lower partial for two weeks and haven't tried a lot of different things.  My dentures stay tight for about 8 hours and  I only eat once during that time. I have to use the powder again when I get home. I ate with just 10 teeth on the bottom and two partials and eight teeth on the top before I got the upper dentures and the lower partial. I wore the partial on the bottom with the upper dentures the first day I had them put in and when I took out the bottom partial that evening, it had rubbed a sore place on my gum and I haven't been able to stand the pain of it since. Even Ora Jel doesn't help.

My big problem is speaking. The information here will help me get my dentures to stay in; which I appreciate immensely.  I am having a terrible time talking. Is there anyone I can go to for help? I work in an office and strangers, and even the people I work with, look at me so funny when I am trying to talk. I just can't seem to pronounce my words correctly. Are there any training videos? They have everything else on videos.
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Ever hear of Benzodent?  Some people swear by it.  I posted in another thread a few minutes ago about it.

Speaking takes practice for some.  Stand in front of a mirror and PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.  Enunciate your words.  I'll see if I can find some more tips for you on speaking.

https://getsatisfaction.com/dentureliving/topics/soft-reline?topic-reply-list%5Bsettings%5D%5Bfilter...
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Ann - check this out:

My hardest word was Yosemitee.  Came out more like Yo-thhemm-id-ee.
NOT GOOD when you're a Rock Climber! :-)
I still need to speak slowly at times or I can slur some words.  
Speak Slowly Ted!

This is from a friend on another forum Thanks DaveyB!

Learning to speak correctly again... the easy way after getting dentures.

Learning to speak right again is an issue that some of have. And to say it honestly it is an extreme embarrassment and and a frustration that is hard to bare. And being tongue tied because of a new denture is a problem many would not wish on their worse enemy. Some people really do get and have serious mental stress over it, and others fluff it off and laugh about the mispronounced words they say.

But in time we all learn to speak  clearly as to what we fell is correct in time.

But some of us have to face co-workers, strangers and just don't know what to do,  Many wonder if they will ever speak right again and fear saying anything causing new issues and worries we really don't need.

One key that many do not realize is that they might speak to quickly and the tongue is all over the place actually pushing the bottom denture loose. And of course this is why so many have bottom denture problems staying in... if they speak a lot. 

Also the key is to slow down and take your time saying things.The real issue we don't realize or see right off is the speed of saying words and how we say them depending on accent.  

Also remember that there is a new bottom denture and we loose the retention as the tongue learns it's new boundaries and push it out. And we think the bottom denture is just loose and it needs to stay rock solid. Tongue control as many will tell you does come naturally in time. And that's the real secret key to it staying in place.

Well the real problem really is because your tongue doesn't know where to go and is use to what teeth are lack of you had and is still use to doing that which it was original taught are learned to do over the years of saying things everyday.

Once you learn how to control your tongue many issues with the bottom denture moving does seem to come under control more then you might imagine. Strengthening and using the tongue muscles makes you able to keep your bottom denture in place with out adhesives. But remember until your healed the bottom denture is a a obstacle in many ways.

Many have great problems or trouble with S words, F words, TH sounds. Some people get a whistle with certain words others hear a lips like sound. and all of it is embarrassing to us even if others don't catch it.

Many things can be done to stop the problem but most dentist will tell you they have no clue are you'll get over it. And in many cases some will go to a speech therapist paying big bucks only to find out a few secrets we actually learned as kids will help this problem go away fast.

As many know some people will perfect their speech that they have lost from dentures by reading out loud. but the key is reading out the word that you mispronounce out loud 3-5 times until you get it sounding right to you.

Another way is to practice your ABC's out loud saying them slowly and clearly. Also practice them phonetically Aye- Baa- CA- Duh - Eh...etc..

If your words when you speak have you sounding like daffy duck or worse yet Elmer Fudd, Sylvester the cat or some other outrageous  over the top cartoon character then you need to  really step up your game.

Practice counting from 30 -80 out loud several times a day. Believe me this is the secret key to many words and pronunciations.

And if you hear a number sounding wrong when you say it. Repeat and say it a few times and let your tongue find the right spot to pronounce it correctly.

Also practice your vowels and try to do all this several times the first week as often as you can. It really works!

After a while you will be speaking beautifully.  I did it and in 3 days i had all my pronunciations back... if you mess up on a word in a conversation practice that word later in the day say it 3-5 times trying to make your mouth form the word correctly... then give it a rest.  Oh and always pay  real good attention to where your tongue is when you say it.

And now a days I only sound  really funny to myself and others when I take my teeth out and try to speak on the phone.

Some people as we know often might practice these old tongue twisters daily.

Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers.
A peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked.
If Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers,
Where's the peck of pickled peppers Peter Piper picked?

Picky people pick Peter Pan Peanut-Butter, 'tis the peanut-butter picky people pick.

Thirty-three thirsty, thundering thoroughbreds thumped Mr. Thurber on Thursday

Toothless Teddy took time to tell toothless tales two times on Tuesday twice Thursday, thrice times three today.

I saw Susie sitting in a shoe shine shop.
Where she sits she shines, and where she shines she sits.

 Four furious friends fought for the phone.

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Ann, I had speech therapy as a child and it served me well when I got dentures. You have to practice speaking and notice where you are placing your tongue. Meaning, your tongue should be behind your lower teeth when saying an s. My teeth on my dentures feel smaller than my natural ones so I was over compensating with my tongue so it was over my teeth. Bingo, my old lisp was back. Drove me nuts. I had to really concentrate on where my tongue was. I work with the public all day and hate sounding like Elmer fudd. Practice will make perfect.
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Ted & Annie, thanks for the great advice! I've been having some challenges talking also. I have the whistle and lisp sound, when talking. It drives me crazy. I've been practing a lot while I'm alone, driving or just home with the kids. Reading aloud helps a lot! It's work in progress but getting better!
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Wow awesome suggestions and help. Thank you so much everyone 
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I have a lisp still, how long does this last? Its been a week today that I got my Dentures. I have practiced over and over talking. I work as A Paraprofessional which I have to do alot of Talking.
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