Has Anyone tried Pure Cure Dental Detox?

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My Father bought this kit for $50.00 as a way to hopefully cure the burning mouth sensation he gets from his new upper dentures. He's been unable to keep them in unless he's eating, and even then it burns. He's been to 2 Allergists, who think it comes from an allergy in the acyrlic resin material used to make the dentures. He and I both got ours at Affordable Dentures. They swear nobody has complained of this. And so far, will not give him a refund for the $1200 he paid for Ulta Bottom Denture.
And it's Day 3 of 7 that he has to soak his denture in, of The Pure Cure Dental Detox Solution, and no change. He's really disheartened.
If anyone has suffered from
-burning mouth /allergic reaction to your dentures please comment or if anyone has a solution that works please share.
Thank you,
Deirdre
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Deidre. Please know that I am deeply sorry for your fathers unfortunate experience. I also suffer from denture sensitivity as does Jodie. We are among the minority. I suspect he is reacting to the unactivated monomer element of the denture. I am unable to explain it all in a single post but if you google denture sensitivities and monomer reactions you can learn a lot. Long story short, there are a couple of issues at play here. But, the short story is, dentures are made of petroleum products. There are a few different ways in which the materials are rendered in the making of dentures. The quality and thoroughness of the denture making process is directly dependent upon the investment. Basically, it becomes a matter of, you get what you pay for. Most affordable is not always best.

For me my denture experience has been a long and very painful one. My mouth burns constantly. My denture offgasses horribly. It's taste is beyond bearable. So, let's say that I do fully understand your fathers discomfort. I would gladly speak with you, or him directly to help you work out his issues and advise you on the nature of questions you aught to be asking and the solutions you aught to be seeking. You need to be educated. Most of us come into this blind and trusting of our dentists to do what's best for us. The harsh truth is, dentists are not aware of the chemical issues that patients might experience. Most people have no issues at all. When a patient does present with issues, they are ill equipped to manage or respond. Hence, you must educate yourself. 

I am very pleased that you reached out in a community that might be able to help you. Please respond here if you are interested in learning more.  If you have a facebook profile, please tell me how I might find you. I am more than willing to spend time with you to help your father. 

Kindest regards.

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Heather,
Thank you so much for responding, for your kind words, your knowledge on this subject, and just caring. I passed the information onto my Dad last night and he's so Thankful that someone can relate to his problem. He has a bunch of questions for you, and more in depth information to share. He hasn't joined the community, so I'll be getting back to you, n maybe you two can talk soon. But I'll definitely be writing to you later today with his questions n mine.
Again, Thank you.
Just knowing he's not alone in his struggle , I know brings comfort to him.
Deirdre
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Hi Deirdre, I'm not sure if you were able to see my comments below but if your dad is having an allergic reaction to the monomer (liquid) and polymer (powder) that is mixed together to fabricate a denture and no other brand of acrylic is optional maybe he can get the denture "processed" a 2nd time. My boss said he's rarely come across this but has done that before and it worked. Processing it a 2nd time will help reduce the ingredients and eliminate the allergic reaction. Not sure is this is an option for him.
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I'm having the same issues with my  new lower denture, but I am also very sensitive to Red Food Dye which they use in the gum material. I'm a Fibromyalgia patient and we are very sensitive to chemicals. I can taste them in food, water, and react to a lot of medications. FMS affects 12+ Million people 80% are women. I've also had issues with the adhesives, the white ones are so goopy, they are horrid they don't last more than about 1-2 hrs. They don't come out of the mouth easy either. The Red 1 works they best but then again  it's Red Food Dye based. I can't get them to last in my mouth more than 5 hrs. By supper it's to late to re-apply adhesive. 
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This is unfortunate that you all are experiencing this. I've never heard of this until I came on this site. It must be the type of acrylic being used. This has definitely caught my interest and I'm going to ask my employer tomorrow. Hope you all feel better soon. Thanks.
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They have a self (or cold)cure and a heat cure. The self cure uses a powder base and a liquid monomer. It is kind an epoxy type stuff, sort of like a soft liner. I have heard of people having reactions to it. I don't know if the heat cure has two parts like that.
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Hey Ken, The heat cure is mixed with monomer and polymer as well. There are different brands (quality) of acrylic. There is an option of having a denture processed twice to reduce having a reaction but not sure if people experiencing that have that option. :)
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Hi Dierdre, its not that unusual to react badly to the methyl acrylate which many dentures ar made of - so I was told by a dental specialist - & burning mouth is classic. The temp dentures & soft reliners are the worst offenders. I have to test every material by keeping a sm piece in my mouth for weeks. I first test a small amt of the material (these can be obtained free from dentists/labs/manufacturers) by holding it in my mouth a few hours a day for a week... If it passes the test I have a "spacer " made which fits over a 1 tooth gap & holds onto the adjacent teeth - this stays in place for 6 weeks. So far all I've found I can tolerate is Duraflex hypoallergenic nylon, tho I'm not doing too badly atm with chrome cobalt.


Heather, what material did you settle with eventually? I remember you recommending prosthodontists.. I called a few & explained but they wouldnt even make an appt for me! Said I shd see a specialist or a holistic dentist which i already had, told them so & still wouldn't see me. Its a constant battle.
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Jodie,
One Dentist recommended A Hypoallergenic Denture, or one made of
Valplast?
Ever heard of these options?
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Yes I tried a Valplast sample, it caused mouth burning, but Duraflex (which is very similar) didn't.
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Only problem unfortunately using materials that are "flexible" they are not as strong and stable and some of them if broken can not be repairable and would have to purchase a new one. :(
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Hi Jodie! Long time! Thats strange about the prosthedontist. The one I found also specializes in appliance allergies. Although I have not been properly tested yet (the wait time is close to a year) he agrees with my conclusion that the methyl acrylate is the problem. It has improved over time. But I've also just leaned to live with it. When the time is right I will transition to a nylon denture. Hopefully in the fall.

Josie, to answer your question I believe most people here who are experiencing issues are new to the denture journey and are wearing immediates. However, from what I understand it is irrelevant to the issue. The problem lies squarely on the manufacturing process and the materials used. Unreacted monomers are a little talked about health risk where dentures are concerned and most dentists and doctors do not generally make the connection when the patient presents with reaction complaints. Often times the patients concerns are dismissed out of hand and they are left to learn how to just live with it.
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Hi Heather, thank you. I spoke with Jodie a little bit about this earlier as we never really had people with severe allergies at our clinic. Yes the reaction may be from the quality of acrylic and the monomer and polymer mixed together to fabricate a denture. There is an option to request the denture be processed twice to help reduce the risk of allergic reaction as my employer done once and the patient was pleased.  Oops I can write a little more but leaving the office for the day. May be on again once I get home. Thank you again Heather. :)
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I'm glad Heather that we have only had a few cases at our clinic with allergies and we were successful with making them a denture they are pleased with that works but as my nature is to help people it's unfortunate how many posts I see here with the issue and I can't help. :(
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True Heather, I was told to take tranquillisers by one dentist recently lol. Hmm hadnt thought to google for an appliance allergy prosthodontist! Jeez it gets more & more obscure !
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Are these Temps that you all are having a burning sensation?
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Vitallium 2000 is a metal that anyone with allergies can try if that doesn't work then titanium.
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My dentist tells me theres no such thing as dentures made witn titanium, I know there are tho - you only have to google it.
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Jodie there are. They are cast partials though.
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This is driving me crazy! I can't wait to go to work and tell my boss about this. I'm so curious for some answers.
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See chrome cobalt is a bunch of metals mixed together. It's the lowest grade..no offense. So it's hard to tell what you are reacting from because it's a mix of metals.
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Yes I'm getting slight burning with the chrome cobalt, but I've had worse. Its supposed to be the best quality & "nickel free" .. ButI had a high grade titanium implant & reacted massively badly to it.. even tho I had a test mini implant in for 8 months first with no probs! Apparently no one can guarantee these metals are nickel free to more than 99% as they dont have the technology but they are allowed to say they are nickel free if they are 99% tested as such. .. There will always be 1% unknown substances in them. Its really difficult. I'm planning to get this chrome-cobalt covered with gold when I have done 6 weeks of testing, to see how that goes, if its not too expensive. I cant tolerate any composite fillings or most of the crown materials either but have not tried gold.
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btw I googled Vitallium and that seems to be chrome cobalt? "Vitallium is a trademark for an alloy of 65% cobalt, 30% chromium, 5% molybdenum, and other substances. The alloy is used in dentistry and artificial joints, because of its resistance to corrosion. "
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You have a good point as we haven't had issues with someone with allergies have problems with vitallium as its sup posed to be " a bether metal". We did have someone that didn't want to take the chance and went with titanium at $100 approx to be safe. Zirconia is a great option for implants however much more expensive. Not sure if you checked your costs for titanium over gold as titanium is less expensive here in Ontario. I've never cone across people doing so much research as I've seen on here as yourself as well. It's very impressive. I hope things work out for you.
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hmm I wonder if it's possible to get this 'tester' chrome cobalt covered with a layer of titanium?  . I will add it to my list of questions. :-)   What cost $100?  that's peanuts for anything in dentistry over here :)     I think I will probably be ok with titanium as long as it's not screwed into my jaw, its just finding a dentist who knows about these things, in my experience each dentist only knows about their favourite materials  - you have to ask around half dozen of them before you get a broad picture, and they are so much like plumbers " *sharp intake of breath* .. who did that!?  no you absolutely don't want that.. what you want is one of these!..no that can't be done - who told you that?!" etc etc..

Yes the gold has to be 22ct or it probably won't be pure enough.  Zirconia implants supposedly safer, but 1/3 more expensive.   I have had zirconia crowns in the past with no probs, but I wouldn't have anything implanted again - too much hassle to remove if things go wrong, (that's if you can get anyone to remove it in the first place) -very expensive + you lose a lot of bone in the process.
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Hey Jodie, please excuse all the errors on my previous comment. Stupid cell phone. I just got to work and I can ask my boss a cple things. In Ontario things are different then in the States as I've learned on this forum. I work at a Denture Clinic. We have labs here and they are R.D.T's. (Registered Dental Techs) and they are licensed but not licensed to see people. Denture Clinics here are licensed Denturists that are a step above R.D.T's and can see patients and no referrals needed. It would be an additional cost which is approx $100 more here to have titanium as a cast partial. I'm not exactly sure about your story with dentures but if it's a cast partial this may be a great option for you. The lady we had that went with titanium actually not long ago wanted gold. When we looked into it, it was going to be so expensive and went by weight and current rate of gold. Not very many people use that option here any more. She was very glad she didn't have to go that route as it would've been very costly.
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oops just asked my boss. I forgot and there are different types of metals mixed with chrome cobalt but vitallium 2000 seemed to be the better quality casting that we use. He mentioned there are many brands out there and one of the ladies we had come in had an older casting that wasn't a good quality like the vitallium 2000.
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Hey Jodie, so I just asked my boss about the issues with burning mouth and we have never got many cases like this. He did say yes, it can be a mixture of the monomer(liquid) and polymer (acrylic powder) mixed together that makes a denture. Like I mentioned he rarely had people with issues like this but what he did do and he's not sure if you can tell your dentist or they're willing to try this but once your denture is processed they can process it again. It's almost like doing a load of laundry twice. This may work as it will help reduce the allergic reaction.
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Hey Jodie, so I just asked my boss about the issues with burning mouth and we have never got many cases like this. He did say yes, it can be a mixture of the monomer(liquid) and polymer (acrylic powder) mixed together that makes a denture. Like I mentioned he rarely had people with issues like this but what he did do and he's not sure if you can tell your dentist or they're willing to try this but once your denture is processed they can process it again. It's almost like doing a load of laundry twice. This may work as it will help reduce the allergic reaction.
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Yes this is one of the probs I am having - there are SO many brands & even one particular brand will change ingredients from one year to the next.! Dentists are not chemists, they don't log these changes in ingredients - half the time its a trade secret anyway, so they can't know , if they ask b/c someone like me needs to know they will only get told the basics. I'm interested that titanium for partials is not much more expensive - I will definitely put this at the top of my list. I have no idea how much putting a layer of gold over this little spacer thing I 'm using will cost, I just know it can be done. BTW I'm in the UK.. we have denture tech labs here who will make & mend dentures & see patients for some things w/out needing a dentists approval - I've got most of my "test " materials from those guys.
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Good idea re the reprocessing - that would help I'm sure.. Worth the OP trying that -
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Thanks for the input Josie - really helpful stuff
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OMG that's amazing Jodie. Ok so ask them about the titanium.  Like I mentioned above here in Canada it costs approx $100 more for a partial with titanium.  That's great that you are given samples. Have you tried Lucitone 199. That's the acrylic we use. Yes, the zirconia is expensive and unfortunate you had unsuccessful implants. I know 2 people that the same thing happened and one is going to try and have the 2nd implant placed again then once healed wants to get an implant retained denture made from us.  No problem, any tips I can give to help. I'm learning quite a bit on here myself. :)
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Oh btw Jodie, not sure how you are getting tested there but what we do is get a sample of the metal and they tape it to the inside of their wrist for several days. :)
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Yeh that wouldnt work for me Josie - it can take 3-6 weeks for a reaction to kick off sometimes, and to be extra sure the material needs to be in the same place in my mouth for the whole time.
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Omg, it's so much to go through, My Dad has had the sample taped to the wrist for 3days with one Allergist, and 36 sample ingredients taped to his back for another three. But again, no solutions, n no answers! He can only wear the upper dentures to eat, then has to remove them due to the burning sensation in his mouth, n palate. An allergic reaction to ingredients found in acrylic denture.
Thanks for Sharing!
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That's a good idea for you Jodie. The longer you test the sample the better. The lady we had here didn't need that long. Hope those materials I suggested in previous comments are an option for you. :)
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Cheers Josie, I will definitely be putting titanium higher on my to-try list ;)
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Thanks a Josie and Jodie!!!! You have given me a wealth of Information I wouldn't have found out if not for you two!
Talked to Dad, and we're researching Prosthodontic located in New Jersey, where we live.
My father is definitely Allergic to :
The level of residual MONOMER, in Acrylic Dentures, leaching out into his mouth causing the Severe Burning Mouth, Redness, constant pain & Irritation.
And Jodie, it is MMA (methyl methacrylate) & PMMA(polymethyl methacrylate)also causing the allergic reaction as it is part of the resin base like Monomer.
I never knew that they way in which the dental labs Cure these resins causes the problem. Like the cold processing vs. Heat / Microwave curing. And have found out how important it is to let the process of making the dentures take the right amount of time, which should be At Least 24 hours minimum.
I should have known SAME DAY DENTURES, are a scam.
At Affordable Dentures, it only took 3hours!!!!!!! From mold to acrylic denture, to home.
Agh, So much to be wary of, please everyone who reads this, EDUCATE YOURSELF! Like Heather suggested.
Again, Thanks Ladies! You've been a Blessing!
Deirdre
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Keep in touch & let us know how it goes Deirdre - good luck!
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Hope you get positive results!
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These are old posts but just recently got my upper denture...Burning, Mucus, dehydration etc....I'm having so many issues. 
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I received my upper denture last year. For 6 months I had burning, blisters, sores in my mouth. I tried numerous things and ended up just walking around with no teeth. It caused me to be so depressed. I finally went to another top dentist in west Chester, pa and paid 2,600 dollars for yet another denture..
. Since October 2016 my lip is swollen, blisters , sores , red throat! I went back to the new dentist a few times. He has no idea why the burning mouth and problems. He threw his hands up in the air in disgust and said he don't know. So here I am 61 years old with no teeth,. No refunds either, I put in the teeth to go out and arrive home to take them out asap,, so what now...? No one seems to know what the problem is. I think it's the materials they use nowadays. Cheap junk. Years ago no one had this issue. Oh get implants, yes if you can take out a home mortgage to pay. I would of left rotted teeth in my mouth to be honest.
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Deirdre Mcgoldrick, welcome to our forum. I am so sorry to hear what your father is going through and hope that you can find answers and comfort for him here. 
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Josie - could I ask, are the titanium partials totally titanium or are they some other metal & plated with titanium?

Thanks- Jodie
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Hey Jodie, You have to look into or ask for Commercially pure titanium (CP Ti) for a casting. This is pure and it's very thin, when it comes to partials metal is actually thinner then an acrylic partial. One thing though, not sure about there but over here a lot of labs don't like working with it. As we are a Denture Clinic we don't have the machines to make casts and I'm not sure about all of Canada but in Ontario most Denture Clinics just send out to the lab of their choice to make the casting framework and have it sent back and do the rest. When we had to get the titanium for the lady I spoke about a few mths ago I was only able to find one lab left doing it. I think it's a tough metal to work with but oh well. Apparantly it's hard to work with because of the high melting point it can get too etc. Hope this helps and you can find a sample.
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"I was only able to find one lab left doing it."  ah this is interesting, maybe why my local dentist said that there was no such thing as titanium partials!   You'd think there would be a market for it as it's so thin that its bound to be more comfortable, and less of a hazard for allergies than chrome-cobalt.   As a matter of fact our labs hate working with Duraflex & Valplast as well, many won't do it.  Fussy lot huh?  :D    Well it seems I have more digging around to do.  Thanks Josie! :)
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Hey Jodie, so the lab we used just responded to my email and she said it's 99.5% titanium. The reason they don't like to work with it is it's a difficult metal. When it goes to a certain temp it gets to a melting point if you google titanium cast partials it explains the difficulty. But!!! Still something you should look in to. :) Yea we don't use flexible materials because they can break easier and we don't want to back that up and look like we fabricate poor dentures.
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"we don't use flexible materials because they can break easier and we don't want to back that up and look like we fabricate poor dentures."

See this is part of the problem I am having - the labs and even a Harley St specialist (centre of excellence for medics in the UK) don't want to do this or that or even talk to me because THEY look bad if something doesn't work out.  They need to understand that this is not about THEM - it's about us, the patients.  We are experimenting and trying different things because we have no choice - we don't blame the practitioners if it doesn't work out, but we do blame them if they won't even attempt to help cos of some misplaced anxiety about their own image.
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Hey Jodie, sorry allow me to be clear on that comment. At the Clinic I work for my employer is willing to work with what the patient really wants. At the end of the day the client is the boss. He gives his best recommendations at the consultation but most of the people we have seen that want a "flexible" or "clear" material is for cosmetic purposes and covenience only. Once we explain that it isn't as strong they change their minds. As I mentioned in the beginning of this comment at the end it's what the person wants and we want to make them happy.  We educate all options to out patients and it's their choice to decide. I agree with you Jodie I think they should be more compassionate about your situation and that it's your choice. Maybe you should sign something that says it's your decision? I know I'm the type of gal that would do that. :)
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Oh that's fair enough, it sounded like your guys were not interested cos it made them look bad if what the patient requested didn't work for some reason. I've had that attitude from highly qualified specialists who should know better - being highly qualified ! But it was all about them & their practise and they only wanted straightforward easy cases that made them look good .
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Noo no no. I was probably here at work when I wrote that and had to be quick as I'm helping my boss with some hands on work as well as looking after the front (appts). Yea those inquiries we got weren't people that had allergies or anything of that sort. We try to do our best when it comes to dentures to make our patients happy campers. :) I get you. There are a lot in Canada as well that don't really "care" much.
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Yeh I tell everyone to leave reviews for dentists, good & bad treatment should be put out there, I always do that.  And you can't just leave it up to dentists and hope for the best a lot of the time, you really do have to educate yourself if you're going to get the best out of them.   I started a Facebook page for those of us using State dentistry here - very few ppl know what they're entitled to under the State system & I had to do a lot of research to find out, but last yr I was at the dentist an avg of once every 8 days - so needs must- I learnt a lot  :b 
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oh and Jodie a Complete denture takes 2 weeks and a cast partial 3 weeks at my work. We don't even make a flipper in the same day and the actual processing  takes at least  7 hrs based on the material we use but that's just the part when the monomer and polymer set. The only time we did a cold cure was from instructions on a RX from a dentist. We only do cold cure for Repairs and Same day Reline.
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Omg Jodie I remember Valplast a lot more than I did this morning. I used to work in a Dental Lab about 10 yrs ago where everything was made from implants down to sports guards. Yes it's thermoplastic material. That may be a great option for you as well. Just remember the tips I gave you about the lack of strength if you get those. When ever you have a meal and chew with them you can be cautious and think of me the Canadian Denture girl. :) At the lab it was I guess how you mentioned earlier "not much care or concern" We never met the patients. They're not allowed to a lab so the lab was...well a lab and get work from the dentists and basically do data entry to send it in the lab departments. Never knew the results with people until the Denture Clinic where I have the privilege of meeting people. :)

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haha... if I ever get there I'll think of you as I carefully munch my packet of nuts - I'm a bit of a peanut freak lol.    Incidentally I found this after a quick google for monimer-free denture materials: http://flexitecompany.com/advantages-of-injection-molding-and-monomer-free-thermoplastics/ "Complaints of sensitivity to acrylic monomers is a daily occurrence. " .... not so unusual it seems :-)   Lots of sites come up if anyone wants to have a nose round.
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From what I know they are pure titanium. I'm heading to work in a few min which isn't far from me (lucky) and I'll dble check with my boss. Keep u posted hopefully within the hr. :) oh Jodie you're asking about a partial right?
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I realize this is an old post but I have the same problems and solved it by using a thermoplastic material that is hypoallergenic.  It is called vertex thermosens and is available in the United States at select labs.  Posca Bros in CA and Marotta in Farmingdale NY.  It is also called ultaire.  Best of luck to all. 
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I could not find Vertex Thermosens anywhere for US when I google it.    Just paid $4000 for premium upper and lower.    Mouth burns can't wear them..  see dentist again tomorrow.