I like how they look. My natural teeth had gotten so bad, I didn't like my smile. I am also speaking relatively well.
That said, I HATE everything else. Last night's attempt at dinner was a disaster. I can't control the food in my mouth. It goes everywhere in my mouth. I feel so crowded. I also feel like I am chewing with someone else's mouth since my palate and gums are covered. I can't feel anything.
All in all, I HATE this.
Today,, I was afraid to eat.
Can you please give me some hope that this gets better? Will I ever enjoy food again?
I'm REALLY depressed here.
This forum isn't well used. I've come to the conclusion that we don't hear much about dentures because few people get them anymore, and for good reason.
You are still in shock from the surgery. I don't know why they tend to minimize it. It's a big deal to get our teeth removed. Take good care of yourself. Try to take B and C vitamins to help with the stress, but not on an empty stomach. If you are taking meds, which also probably shouldn't be taken on an empty stomach maybe take them with the meds? If you have any rescue remedy, that might be of assistance. And arnica montana would be good to take for the bruising, which may not be showing yet.
What were the reasons you did the denture thing? Did your dentist or denturist talk to you first and tell you what to expect? Did they tell you anything?
Some people who come to this forum say it gets better.
Most got some sort of briefing I think. I didn't get briefed and am entirely appalled by the whole thing myself.
The immediate dentures are bigger than the perms, I think, so that might improve it for you some when you get the perms. Right now you need to love yourself.
Watch a comedy on television maybe to cheer yourself up?
I've tried to eat with the fakes, but I find it horrifying and end up crying for hours on end after trying. I can't feel a thing or taste or anything, and the lower flips up all the time so it's pretty much impossible to eat with them anyway. And crap gets stuck in them.
I take them out to eat. I don't eat enough and I'm wasting away.
I was suckered into getting dentures by my dentist, who didn't brief me at all about what it would be like, what to expect, that I could get these bony ridges or that he intended to carve my bones. No informed consent. I am far from pleased. I should have asked a bunch of questions but I stupidly trusted the man would tell me what I needed to know. I was so wrong.
It's been two and a half months for me. I have lost way too much weight and am not sure I'm going to survive. Ha, a whole new meaning to the light-hearted expression, 'It slays me.'
You really just need to take it easy, do your saltwater rinses, stay ahead of the pain, rest and allow yourself to recover. It is unrealistic to expect to be eating like you were prior to this happening especially when you just got them. You'll get there I have no doubt, but a little bit of patience is going to have to get you there.
My procedure has gone very smooth. I had an adjustment the day after, I didn't ask for it he just did it, I was in this Tuesday and didn't need them to do anything, they were checking stitches and healing. Food is coming along, healing is taking place, things are going well. I was very sure to take my pills, and I am not a pill person, but I took Ibuprofin and tylenol, every two hours at first (alternating the doses) and then was gradually eased to every 3 hours for the rotation. I made sure I salt water rinsed frequently, drank plenty of water (I drink it all the time) and I followed the instructions that I was given. I can't really think of anything else helpful, but to rest and take care of yourself. And just know you will adjust it will get better, but you are going to wear them and get used to them, and communicate with your dentist so they eventually fit as they should.
This is a nice forum, hopefully other people will see this and offer helpful suggestions.
How are you making out today?
I should have explained about my situation more. But when I typed my initial post, I was very upset and despondent.
I had my extractions done 3 months ago. First the uppers on March 10, then the lowers on April 4. I am SO GLAD I waited. Living with no teeth was rough, but I can't imagine dealing with what I'm going through now plus the pain, swelling and bleeding associated with recent surgery. To all of you who had immediate dentures done, I don't know how you did it.
So, I am beyond the pain and most of the hard healing.
My dentist has been very thorough. We had 6 appointments (taking 2 separate impressions, measuring the bite, trying in a wax replica, making adjustments to the wax replica and I finally got the complete dentures yesterday (Thursday).
My attempt at dinner last night was a disaster. I had a meal that I had eaten without teeth. It went very poorly. Tonight's dinner went better, but I still hate this.
I've read so much online that gives me many different stories and varying experiences. Some say they love their dentures and can eat anything they want with no problems. Others say they've had them for a year and still can't adjust.
Some say they've worked back up to eating burgers and steak. Others say they'll probably never have a steak again. I'm scared. If I can't ever eat steak or a cheeseburger or pizza again, I don't know how I'll handle that.
I love good food. I love eating with my family. We are a tight group that still eats dinner together and talk. This has been a terribly emotional 24+ hours for me. But I'm terrified. I'm terrified that my "life is over" and that I'll never be able to enjoy good food again.
I really didn't have a choice about my natural teeth, I had very bad teeth that were decaying and crumbling away. They were terribly painful and I was steadily losing function. But, I miss my teeth, as bad as they were. At least I could eat a steak, a burger, a pizza.
I need to know that I didn't just make the biggest mistake of my life that I'll regret forever. I need to know there is hope. I need to hear there is something to look forward to. I need to know that this is not the end and that my life is not over. I can smile again without embarrassment. But I need to know that, someday, I'll have something to smile about.
As you can see, I'm really a wreck here, lol.
Thank you again
You are not alone, and I'm discovering that our reactions are not extremely unusual.
I am now seeing a therapist to try to help me survive. I've just about stopped eating. (Not a recommended response, but one I have when I'm in distress.)
I take the 'things' out to eat. (The 'D' word messes with me, so I call them 'things,' as well as other words that don't nurture joy) I can not handle how it feels, or rather doesn't feel. So can't eat much. This odyssey has been and remains a total mind/heart/spirit **ck for me.
As for smiling...
....I love my garden. It saves me every day. (The owner is trying to get me to move though, because he can rent the place for way more money now that I've turned the back yard from a dirt covered icky spot to an oasis. ) I've planted a lot of tomatoes, and they are growing fairly well. Maybe somehow, I can find my inspiration again, even as the dormant seeds in the soil are sprouting where I water around the tomatoes. Purslane, lamb's quarters, euphorbia, echium and a bit of variegated sedum are showing themselves.
My therapist (I've never seen one before but as I said......) suggested I hold fast to what brings me joy. Seems a plausible suggestion. If I survive the summer, I'm going to get another service dog. My sweet canine friend passed a few years ago.
I love dogs.
I also love walking, and I haven't been doing it much since he crossed. Maybe I'll try to walk more.
Make a list of what brings you joy, perhaps, and dance with some of your good stuff?
Great you have a tight family. I usually enjoy my solitude, but of late, I'm feeling alone, as opposed to all one.
If it's messing with you as much as it is me, and you have the wherewithal, perhaps a therapist? Do you meditate, do yoga, sing, dance?
Are you keeping a journal about it? I'm finding it helpful to write about it. I'm trying to wrap my head around how I let myself get here. Part of me is trying to survive.
Did your dentist tell you about the not tasting the food and not feeling anything?
My situation is different than yours, it seems, as it sounds as if you were provided with some information. My dentist didn't say a word about the bony ridges, either. I'm getting these painful bony ridges forming now. I had an idea that at least with these things I wouldn't have pain in my mouth anymore. Ha ha, I guess my dentist fooled me, didn't he?
Tra la la, ain't it a kick?
I've noticed I need to try to keep my thoughts on a short leash, lest I nurture my experience of trauma. I will try instead to nurture the possibility of feeling happy again. Continuing with this incarnation depends on me finding a way of this maze.
I really hate that I look 20 years older than I did 2 months ago; really adds to the feeling of 'overness.' (Dammit, Janet.)
It sucks big time that there is a different option for the affluent--implants. I'd like to see all of us have that option. It's all just too much of a cattle call, and everyone is not the same. I find myself wondering if this is a eugenics program. But, as you'll see reading the bits and pieces in this forum, some seem happy.
I wonder if any dental insurance covers implants? Mine certainly doesn't. Seems to be the way things go here, with humans. If you have bucks, you can get anything. If you don't have bucks, well, them's the hazards. Then there's the horribly sad situation for those of a certain demographic -- about which there are protests going on around the country.
Well, it doesn't particularly make me smile, but I just discovered a project I must attend to tomorrow. I get to play 'Find the Smell' in my refrigerator. Just opened the door and was assailed by the stench of something revolting. Mmmmmm.
Oh...laughter.....even a fake laugh promotes endorphin production and more blood flowing to the brain.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
(I will try to remember to fake laugh while finding the revoltingness in my fridge tomorrow.)
We can draw strength from each other. I read something on a dentist's site last night, talking about our situation. It said, "Your greatest enemy is YOURSELF and your best friend is TIME."
I'm trying. I'm trying to find a way to be positive. I'm searching for hope. I need to hear from those who are happy and I need to hear how they got there.
I don't have the mouth pain and discomfort that you do. But, that can be fixed by dentists/oral surgeons. You should not be in pain. If you have to, find another dentist that will help you.
I have to run now, but I will post again. Let's keep talking. Me, you, and others here, we will get through this together. We all need to know that we're not alone.
We aren't. We have each other.
You may be ahead of the curve ball as far as having your denture placed after some healing has taken place but please consider there are completely foreign objects in you mouth that have to find their place, seat themselves (this happens through the adjustments made as your mouth changes, and those changes occur greatly in the first 6 moths to 1 year, and then continue throughout our life. The body changes, with dentures or without. Mark it is going to take time, but you will enjoy food again.
Also think about this if you can. Have you every taken a drink of something, expecting it to be something else and the taste is "shocking" you can't place the taste because your mind thinks you are drinking something so it has already formed the taste, but you mouth detected something else. All signals misfire. A lot of people assume because they have a denture in their mouth food will never be the same, but there are a lot of factors that determine you ability to taste and a majority have nothing to do with your tongue. Age at 45 taste within the human body decreases, by the age of 50 the increase is even more noticeable. Our eyes and nose are a major contributing factor in taste as well. All is not lost in your ability to enjoy a meal, but many factors besides the dentures themselves play part in that.
Be sure to work with your dentist. Those adjustments are key and yes you are ahead of the healing process because you did wait for a denture to be placed, but you will still experience an abundance of change and as those changes happen - the majority of them in the first year and possibly a bit longer, attention to detail will be key and adjustments could be plentiful. Patience is key - that's the one common denominator in all of this. Additionally a positive attitude goes such a long way. Don't defeat yourself right out of the starting gate mentally, that's such a huge obstacle to overcome. This is going to work out for you. It will, you just have to have the patience to allow what needs to happen to happen.
We've all (I guess) had that "WHAT-HAVE-I-DONE?" moment. Mine was after I'd worn the teeth for about a day, and they felt good, stayed in place, could talk pretty good, etc. I smiled and laughed a lot, showing off the new teeth, and was SO impressed that they guessed so good as to what my gums were going to do after extractions... then I tried eating "real food". Yep, thought I was ready after ONE day... SUPRISE! My wife had a new set made the same day I got my extractions, and we went by to get an adjustment for her. Then she suggested we stop by the dinner bell restaurant for the buffet. I got some mashed potatoes and gravy and stuff like that, but I also got a piece of fish and thought I was going to BITE off a small piece... BIG SURPRISE! And then I remembered my church was having their Christmas dinner in 2 more days...and I wasn't going to be able to eat much at all. I think that was the closest I came to crying! LOL
I can eat almost anythingIt DOES get better! now that I could before without any special preparation, and I learned you can eat anything if you cut it small enough! My wife fixed a pork chop dinner for my birthday about a week after my extractions. I had to cut it into tiny pieces, and just kinda wallow it around and swallow, but I "ate" it. I learned that you could crumble sausage very finely and fill gravy full of it and pour over biscuits to get a little meat in the diet. I also ate sloppy joes, hamburger helper and a lot of stuff where chewing was "optional". I remember what an accomplishment it was the first steak I ate! Its amazing what we take for granted.
Hang in there...It DOES get better!
I got my dentures Thursday. My dentist and I set a followup appointment for yesterday (Saturday) to adjust for sore spots and talk about how things were going. He asked me to use powder adhesive until I saw him Saturday, while definitely confirming that it would not hold nearly as well as paste. He wanted to do this so that the cushioning properties of the paste wouldn't mask any sore spots.
Dinner Thursday night was a complete disaster. In my experience, the powder adhesive is useless. I had a nice soft meal that I had eaten in my months without any teeth. I figured if I could eat it without teeth, I sure could handle it with teeth. Well, my lower dentures popped out twice when I was eating mashed potatoes. I was so discouraged, depressed, disappointed. If I couldn't eat mashed potatoes, I was screwed.
Friday, I was so upset that I barely ate all day. At dinner time, I decided to try the paste. I had to know what I was dealing with. Dinner went a lot better. Not perfect, but better.
I had my appointment and we took care of some minor fitting adjustments. They seemed to go a long way and worked very well.
Using the paste (Fixodent Original for now) I've had 2 very encouraging days in a row. Last night, I went out to dinner with a friend. We went to Red Lobster. I ate lobster and shrimp with no problems at all. And we all know how chewy those are.
Today at lunch, I went out for lunch. I had soup, a large meatball in Italian sauce and dinner bread. The dinner bread was pretty crunchy. I was able to eat that with no problems at all. I even took bites off the bread, biting then ripping the bread as if I had natural teeth.
Tonight, my brother had a cookout. I ATE A CHEESEBURGER!! Meat, cheese, ketchup, mustard and mayo. I had a few potato chips and a hot dog. I think my newly found confidence caused me to be a little careless and reckless with the hotdog. When I was almost done, some food got under my lowers and they popped loose. Maybe it was because I opened my mouth too wide? Maybe I got too careless with the food positioning in my mouth? I don't know. I'll have to try it again under more ideal circumstances and see what I did wrong.
I still feel like I've got 2 hunks of plastic in my mouth. I still feel like my mouth is alien to me. But, things seem to be progressing.
Thank you all SO MUCH again for your encouragement!!
I read something tonight about learning how to eat with a bottom denture, I wasn't sure if you would be back posting, I now wish I would have copied and pasted it in here. If you look online there should be some helpful tips for that, You have to relearn the process and it's almost reverse from how a person learns to do it with the teeth they were born with. I will try and find it again though and post it. It won't be tonight, because I still have to shower yet, but I will try and find the piece tomorrow, it seemed to me like it would be very helpful for someone with a bottom. I do believe it was from a dental office as well, don't hold me to that.
No way I could do lobster or shrimp here tonight. And I did have a cheeseburger the other night, but one from McDonalds, special ordered so it steamed in the wrapper, my boss gave me that hint ~ it tasted heavenly and I don't care for McDonalds.
Anyways I am really glad to hear you have had so much progress. It will only get better. Just keep your head in the game and the "pucks" in your mouth :)
I can't wait to post following my first cookout, really looking forward to that :)
You've encouraged me, so thanks for that!
Found it, the lady who posted this is a doll, her advice to me was spot on and although I don't know her, I am forever in her debt. She is a real help to people.
She calls it "crazy glue"
I call this paste and powder combo "crazy glue".
First put in the paste (I use Poligrip). I squeeze a bit in and then kind of smooth it around with my finger. After that I lightly spray with water and then sprinkle on Fixodent or Wernets powder (spread that by sort of shaking the denture lightly - kind of like flouring a cake pan). Then, lightly spray with water again and place in your mouth.
She then posted this update:
I thought I would add another little tidbit of information ....
Another combination that works for me is to use Poligrip Strips in my lower and then sprinkle a bit of Fixodent powder over them. It really keeps my lower in place and keeps all the food particles out. I've had that lasting me all day - three meals and a snack - and it is still in snug at the end of the day!
Poligrip strips seem to work well on their own, too, and they are highly portable since they come in little individual packets. The strips help fill in those areas that may be a bit open from shrinkage, at least until the next reline.
REMINDER: Just remember that you do NOT want to use paste adhesives until your extraction sites are healed! Until then stick with just powder or wafers!
Might be something there for you to try if you don't object. I know a lot of people sing the praises of that combo & I will be trying it when I shrink up.
Everyone in the office told me patience and attitude is the key to all of this and quite honestly I am 47 years old, I am not ready to face the world without my teeth and I need them to do their thing when we are out, etc. I can't have them holding me back, so I am just trying to do what he says, keep a good head about this and I have faith it's going to work. I also see firsthand what happened to my neighbor who gave up right as soon as he got his. He won't wear them and it's such a shame.
Anyways I will look and see if I can find tomorrow what I read tonight. I work tomorrow and have my appointment so I may be evening eastern time before I have a chance to search for it, but I will try and find it.
Everyone helps everyone, that's what I like about this forum. It's a nice place to be for something like this.
For lunch today, I had a sandwich. Bologna and cheese with mayo on white bread. There was a minor issue with the bread sticking to my dentures, but it wasn't too bad. Tolerable. I also tried a piece of hard salami and it went fine.
It might seem boring to some, but this was the first time I've had lunch meat or a sandwich in 4 months. I love sandwiches. This is part of "eating the foods that we love" for me.
Even if the particular food doesn't appeal to you, my goal is to share my victories eating food that may be considered "challenging" for denture wearers in the hopes that it brings you encouragement - encouragement that you too will eat the foods you love again!
For dinner, I'm going to be trying Polish Kielbasa with cooked green bell peppers and white onions. I'll report back, if you want to hear it.
Again, I had my extractions done in March and April and lived for 3 months with no teeth. So, I may be farther along on the healing curve. People who have immediate dentures will probably be very limited for the first couple of weeks until your gums heal and the swelling goes down. Then, you'll need some adjustments made and maybe a soft reline.
Proper fit is essential. Work with your dentist to get that perfect fit. Then, when you can wear your dentures and chew without pain, you'll be good to go and free to start trying things.
My biggest problem at the start was that I expected too much too soon. Be patient, be determined and practice. If the first bite doesn't go well, you'll adapt. Just keep at it.
As I have these small victories, I can see a happy future for the first time in a long time.
We'll get there!
This past weekend I went to visit friends for the entire weekend and decided not to let them know what I did. I basically made myself eat the same things as them which included chips, sandwiches, chicken, lasagna and so much more. I came home thinking I must have gained 5 pounds. My husband said there is no way anyone knew but I imagine they have noticed what a slow eater I was...haha.
Tonight I am going to try to tackle a full salad and will let you know how it goes. I just can't live the rest of my life without being able to eat the things I love.
Hang in there and keep trying. I am convinced things will just get easier.
You for sure need to use a glue it helps make them feel so much more secure I started using glue when I got my permanent dentures and I was immediately able to bit into things where I wasn't able to before. It does in fact take time and frankly practice don't get frustrated and accept that you did for yourself what you needed to do at 40 years old I didn't expect to be in a full set of dentures but the universe had other plans for me.
Today I am very happy I laugh, smile and most importantly I eat what I want you'll get there you just have to be patient. I wish you the best of luck.
I had a shredded beef sandwich, it was easy peasy and they even served it on a toasted Italian bread. When it came to the table and I saw it was thick & toasted I cringed a bit, but it wasn't a problem.
Sneezed about 5 times when we were in the vehicle to leave and good news the teeth didn't break the window, I never felt like I had to worry about them coming out once I got 2 sneezes out. First one coming on I was scared though.
Dinner out was a success. I am absolutely positive I could go for Chinese, but I do want to be healed better, gums are still fairly sore.
And I do want to say I wasn't pushing myself or making myself uncomfortable, grabbed some salad fixings just to assess the challenge, but I ordered what I was hungry for when I looked at the menu & it just worked out.
I also noticed now that I am healing some and this denture is sitting better way less food finds it's way underneath. Had some cottage cheese tonight and none got under. When I tried it a couple days after my extractions it was messy.
So building confidence, I have no doubt these are not going to hold me back as far as eating what I like & I was nervous about that - but the way its going relatively quickly out of the gate, when I am healed up everything should be better than it was with my God given teeth during their final years.
And thank you Canada for Lays!
As I try these things, even salami, I'm also gaining more and more confidence that the dentures will not hold me back.
I had another appointment with my dentist today to adjust for sore spots.
I want to thank you all again for seeing me through this week. Your insights and encouragement have been invaluable. I can't even begin to express what it has meant to me. We all need to know that we're not alone. Thank you for all for being there and seeing me this far on the journey.
So glad to hear things are righting for you.
I have nothing good to report in the food department tonight, I ate a pb sandwich. Got working in the yard and didn't feel like stopping to shower up and cook. So I slapped that together and kept on keeping on :)
Now we have the world's best Chinese in town and we have another really good place, that if we didn't have Mr. Lee's everyone would think place number 2 is the best. I went to place number 2 as it was buffet, closer and I wouldn't be bummed if I couldn't eat some of the stuff. I couldn't disrespect Mr. Lee by not eating all the goods, he puts his complete and total heart into his food so I felt the second place was the best place to test drive the teeth.
Hot and Sour Soup - check
Egg Roll- check
Sticky Rice - check - and happy to note the rice no sticky to the teeth or underneath!
Green Beans- check (they were fresh and sturdy)
Couple bites of the General - check
Couple bites of Beef and Broccoli - check (chewed the beef thoroughly, no issues)
Anything that looked like a challenge I took a bite of - provided I liked the composition of it. There was nothing though that even slightly gave me a scare or reason to pause. My daught never one time asked if I was in pain. I bit right into that egg roll front teeth. Which I know you should go off to the side a bit, but I wanted to see what happened when I bit front teeth and maybe had something resist a bit. Denture never even budged with bites from the front or right side. One piece of the General Tso's was crispier than I cared for but I managed.
When I bit that egg roll everything worked I could have cheered. I knew at that moment, there isn't a doubt in my mind I will be eating cobbed corn as soon as it comes in. That was my big worry, the corn. I know, I know it can be cut off the cob, but that's not how I want it, unless I making some with bacon drippings and chili powder (and that's super yummy for for anyone who has not tried it ~ but you know bacon drippings so ... it's not an every day thing, but a treat). Back to the star of the show the cobbed corn - I've got it all day, because tonight I didn't have wafers, adhesive or anything, I haven't needed it- so it was just me and the teeth. I did wonder prior to going out the door if I should powder, wafer glue or something I don't even know all the things they loaded me up with to try because of the meal, but as I hadn't used any of that stuff I thought it may make things more difficult than what it would be without, so I decided against it realizing I would just take very small portions of things and if I couldn't eat it, there would be minimal waste.
It should be noted my left side is still a bit tender, but even with that I alternated bites and chewing. The right side bites felt no different, strike that they did feel different, they felt even better than my real teeth felt at the end. Yes better, and I'll stand behind that statement all day long. The left side bites, when things shifted a bit in there & a couple bites were tender because they rubbed a spot I am trying to heal up, but I never had to stop chewing, no winces or anything. Left side felt like I had a denture, right side not at all. It was pretty cool to realize down the road here before too awfully long I will most likely eat with these and won't even think about having dentures. It will just be eating and enjoying food and no worries of cracked teeth, toothaches, giving my poor teeth their privacy and not exposing them at the table during conversation or heaven forbid laughing during a meal without a free hand to protect their identity.
Not too shabby for Day 16
I am going to end up looking like Veruca Salt when she blows up in the Chocolate Factory if I don't watch myself. :)