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Just had bottom extractions 5 days ago , and got my dentures the same day, Mind you I’ve already had my tops out two weeks now , I healed beautifully! Now the bottoms have really given me h*** first off they cut a artery on my left side and used gel foam to stop the squirting blood I bled for three days from that, I have sores on the inside and the outside in the very back all the way to the front and I have squeeze imprints from the dentures squeezing the heck out of my swollen gums , I have been miserable , so I take them out to clean them along with my tops . And now I CANNOT get them to go back in for the life of me .. I am 23 I am way to young to walk around without any teeth! But however my wife says you can’t even tell ... also not to mention day five or six and my front right side of my bottom lip/chin/bottomjaw are still extremely numb and it hasn’t let up AT ALL.. I don’t even know what to do I just scream when I try to force them stupid teeth in... also not to meantion they buldged out and made me look like I had a huge dip in.... wth
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That sounds horrendous, Shelby, and I would say please, please, please go back to your dentist.I was a dental nurse for some years and we would always tell our patients to come back if they weren't able to get on with their new dentures. There might be something simple that the dentist could do there and then to make them more comfortable. We used to call the process 'easing' because that's what we aimed to do. Sometimes, it just involved a little filing down here and there. Failing that, he could send them back to the dental technicians to see what can be done to make them more comfortable. You had a rotten experience when you had the extractions so that was a bad start. People can expect a little discomfort while 'breaking in' new dentures, but it sounds like you are suffering from more than simple discomfort. I would urge you to go back to the dentist as soon as possible.  Please keep us posted.
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Kathy  that dentist sounds terrible.
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honey go back and if your not satisfied they have to let you return the dentures and go someplace else  that does good work, very important to get a good dentist that works with dentures alot,  cosmetic dentures are even nicer but more money, i went to aspen dental in florida and i had to return mine and got a full refund.  Hope this helps,  and you have a better experience somewhere else.
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It wasn't my dentist, Dunn Debbie. I was replying to the original post by Shelby.  I hope he goes back to him because he shouldn't be suffering in that way, should he?
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Kathy; I also now have MAJOR bones spurs inside and outside of the ridges of my lower arch... I don’t think even if they fit I could wear them
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I went in to have a ct scan for my mini implants and my lower jaw looks like sharks teeth from all the bone spurs and I've been wearing my dentures for almost 4 years.My dentist said it was from cheap dentures and not replacing them I was comfortable with them because I was wearing this temporary thermo liner but all in all it messed my jaw bone up. Now I have been wearing Russell Klein and just got his ultra thins so I'm praying that I will be able to still get the mini implants with my RK.
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sara
Hi Sara
I am a little confused!!!

I thought Mini implants  would be too fragile and too short to hold a clip on denture.
especially because you would be clipping them on and off and exerting  force that a
mini implant can not handle.
I thought you needed regular size implants.

Is this plan  for an upper denture or for  lower denture
Barbara
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Hi Shelby
Well as everyone says everything is wrong and itt must b made right
Do not wear these dentures

Go back tomorrow  to your dentist with your dentures in hand
If they will not give you an appointment  go  sit in their  office and complain out loud so every one in that waiting room can hear you

If you have paid by charge account call your Charge card company and stop payment

Start with asking your dentist to fix the problem

What state do you live in?
The Dental Society should help you
Call the dental society in your State and give them the name of your dentist and ask them
to have some one look at your mouth and help you

Good Luck
Barbara
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I love in Arkansas , I’m going back to my dentist this week . I now have bone spurs and will not put the bottoms in I’m gunna give them a peace of my mind this was a terrible experience for me
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Can you ask the dentist if he can have a prosdodontist  look at your dentures and give  second opinion on what  should be done to make a set that fits
A second opinion is called for here.

We are talking about your temps here and NOT the permanent ones
If he can not make these temps fit then the permanent ones won't fit
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That is so true. I would go to ER. They can help you.
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I have had a year of hell with dentures i went from the frying pan into the fire, Now I am going to a prosthodontist you get what you pay for ,He is professional and gets it right the first time . I had 26 impressions with 1 dentist yes 26 no joke. I got my money back from care credit and went to the professional the  Prosthodontist who specializes in dentures 
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Hi Sharon
Good  for you
We are very   interested in how you accomplished your refund
We need to know how you got "Care Credit" to give  you your money back??

There re too many people on this site that have paid for denture that the can not use
and are being ignored by their dentists

Right know Sharona  (on this site)   has sent her dentist a "Demand" letter asking for  refund
So we need your input for these patients.  

We would also like to know what your    Prosthodontist  is doing differentley  to correct your problem
We have advised some people  who are having trouble with their dentures to ask their Dentist to refer them to a  Prosthodontist for second opinion
 (at no cost to the patient)  Do you think a dentist would do that???

So we really need your input and experience.  Is your  Prosthodontist advising implants to stablalize your dentures??

Please stay on and let us know as we need your help and experience
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I called the bank that handled my care credit and explained my situation,Then i wrote a letter to my dentist he knew he was wrong the lab never ever got my denture right,too small too big no bite,I got $100% refund after 6 months of hell....................Now that was after Aspen screwed me up originally............ It will be 1 year the end of May I started with a denture .
I have lived on protein drinks,yogurt,cottage cheese, peanut butter,homemade  soups, mushy vegetables ,baked potatoes,sweet potatoes ................i've lost over 50lbs which was the only good part being i could afford to lose the weight, but then  also developed the gout,& hair loss, 
    My new prosthodontist is amazing he is in Lake Worth Florida he is a perfectionist and his assistant is just wonderful being the assistant is  the ones that will either make it right for you or screw everything up.
The prostho got my denture on top right the first time it is beautiful and fits like a glove They are making a partial I had to have 2 teeth on the bottom crowned in order to support the partial 4 teeth on 1 side 2 on the other with a metal plate ,it will be complete around the time of my 1 year anniversary having dentures. Any questions i have another email address shash453@att.net
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So glad to hear you have been able to straighten things out Sharon!  Places like Aspen vary so much by location, same with Affordable Dentures (I had a horrible experience there when I only had partials).  Those bad experiences really do leave a "stain on the soul" so to speak.  My experience with Aspen here was great, but different city, different dentist. 

Between that and the fact my 87 year-old father drove me there for the extractions and firmly stated "Do it right or you'll be talking to my lawyer, my son's been through enough" likely helped.  He wasn't kidding either, my father is very kind, but I'll always be "his little boy" and my prior experience with partials wasn't good.  Regardless, my end result was like yours, one I am pleased with.

Best of luck on your bottom partial, good to hear you have some support teeth left, makes it easier.  I have a very narrow jaw, which though added to my original dental issues, actually made a full lower denture a relatively easy adjustment.  3 little dots of adhesive is all it takes to hold them in all day.  For once, I got lucky and what shafted my original teeth made dentures easier, I have a high palate and a narrow jaw.

Regardless, I'm very happy for you!  I know what a difference it makes to be able to eat again, and feel hopeful.  The only sad part is that more often than not, it seems so many dentists, doctors, and salespeople are only out to make a buck, and not provide the product and/or service they are paid for.

David
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Hi David
Dentures are such a blind article.   Who knows when  you are going to a dentist how experienced they are in making and adjusting dentures.
  
Medical doctors are so much  easier to investigate then dentists.  Dentists  can  set up a practice at will and it's hard to tell how good or experienced they are in any phase of dentistry

My friend who is having such a bad experience went to her dentist and found he was retired and this new dentist bought that practice and knows nothing about dentures and  she charaged my friend over $5,000 for dentures that do not fit
Barbara   
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Hi David
Below  are some typical prices   for implant supported dentures in Costa Rica
What is your take on people going out of county??
This sounds very reasonable as far as price???


gallardo@clinics.whatclinic.com via mailgun.org Attachments10:43 AM (1 hour ago)

Dental implant procedure will need two trips to Costa Rica between 4-6
months after Implants surgery.

Clip on dentures dental estimate.
4 upper titanium dental implants $2600

3 lower titanium dental implants $1950

If you will need temporary dentures, upper and lower $400 or we can work
with your own dentures $200
TOTAL DENTAL ESTIMATE FIRST TRIP $4750
10% DISC, CASH PAYMENT $4275

Second trip, clip on dentures.
2 clip on dentures, upper and lower $3000
10% DISC, CASH PAYMENT $2700
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Hi Barbara,

When it comes to going out of the country, there is also the cost of the trip to be considered/factored in.  In addition, there is often little or no recourse if things don't go well.  Assuming the total cost of the trip and procedure is substantially less than the United States, one would certainly want to do a great deal of research to determine the background of the dental professional doing the work.

An older co-worker of mine actually retired in Costa Rica, and his take was also "do your research first".   He mentioned there is a lot of dental tourism, some places are reputable, some are not.  Here's a link I happened to find: https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g309293-i1208-k5348124-Dental_Tourism_in_Costa_Rica-San_Jose_S...
From what my friend was stating, it can be a "mixed bag", though he seems to enjoy living there.  He didn't have any recommendations as he actually sees a dentist in the USA when he visits his kids, fellow has perfect teeth to begin with (lucky!).

Dentures vary so much from person to person, some people really need implants to get a good fit.  If that is the case, it is definitely worth considering.  I have a high upper palate and a narrow jaw, which shafted my regular teeth, but has made it far easier for me to transition to dentures.  Someone with the opposite is more likely to need implants to avoid gagging on their uppers, and having their lowers slide around.

Anyway, that is my take, along with what input I could get.  Hopefully that helps!

David
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Hi David 
About going out of the countryI  
I don't know what I would do if I could not get my implants here
I probably would do my best to research it but I would go if I
could not do it here

I had to get my implants at a Dental College
I went to NYU Dental Clinic in New York 
 It was really expensive for me and more then I could afford but I did it
 
The upper arch was done at the NYU  implant clinic.
All the dentists there  are graduate Dentists  all Majoring in Implantology
and they were supervised by top implantolgist

I don't really remember what  I paid it was 12 or 13  Years ago but  think
 it was around $25,000  (I don't really remember)   for the upper arch  some
 of it was covered by my dental insurance.   I never had any trouble with the
implants  and had  no additional expenses connected with them

I always had a gag reflex and could not have handled a denture
I am very happy that I did it

Now dental colleges are also doing clip on dentures that are much less expensive
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Hi David

That was a good link   (below)   that you found
Very informative but no prices
Actually there were a few specialists that looked good
and very qualified

One thing mentioned was the state of the art  equipment

I just went  to a new eye doctor and was blown away by the new equipment.
it was like Star Wars

Any one  considering  Costa Rica would   find this  link a good resource

Going to Costa Rica  is also a mini vacation and a nice experience to
 see another culture

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g309293-i1208-k5348124-Dental_Tourism_in_Costa_Rica-San_Jose_

Barbara
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Shelby Napier
When you get to your Dentist tell him you want a refund
for your dentures and try to return them

If you are Lucky and have put them n a credit card you might
be able to stop the payment.  If not you are going  to have to
deal with your dentist

Let them know you are not gong to be tortured   and
victimized just because you are young

BG
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Shelby go back to your dentist ASAP like Barbara said. If they dont help you, you and your dentures leave the office. I just had to send a demand letter to afffortable dentures and my problem is not near as bad as yours sound. Go to,
LegalContracts.com. pull up demand letters. There sould be 3 options. Pick out the middle one. Its the easyest one to do. GIve them so many days to do something. Copy the letter and send it to them. Where did you get them done at? I took pictures of the inside of my mouth. Use your flash. Im really sorry you are going through this. Hopefully they will help you. You didnt pay all that money to go without wearing them. As Barbara always says. Once you get use to not wearing them your gonna just give up. Remember your still young. I got my at 15. And this is my 3rd set. Its the only time I have had problems. Its hard to get use to them so you and your denture have to work together.
If you have any questions about the demand letter please let me know. Its gonna work out for you one way or another. DONT GIVE UP ON YOU!!!!!!!
SHARONA
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Thank you so much. I now cannot get them in at all I had them out all night last night but yesterday after having them out long enough for a three minute denture Bath and they just wouldn’t go in I was screaming in pains so I’ve went a hole night and day with out them and have majored majors bones spurs this was by far the worst thing ever
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Sheby I am a retired nurse.. It sounds like you need help now. If they dont help you go to the ER we use to help people with problems like yours. When you take out your Dentures what happens is the oxygen gets to your gums and it causes them to swell. This is why you probably can't get them back in your mouth. I would go there for help. And like I said u can go to ER u can then put your ER paper work with your demand.letter. I truthfully woildnt let that denture Dr. Touch me again. ER can help and at least give you pain meds. Pls keep me posted. Do raise can demand your money back. We all care about you.
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Shelby Napier

Yes Listen to Sharona she knows all about dentures and has had a life time of experience

Go back to your   dentist and tell him about your pain and suffering.
Tell him you ant a refund

He will get upset  and  say he will "fix" them or hopefully make a new set

Then while he is trying to adjust them   be ready for your demand letter if
he fails to make you dentures that you can wear without pain and sore spts
and sufferring

Get the demand letter ready while you are waiting
You can spend the $10.00 as Sharona said to get the Demand form
That is the easiest way to do it
Or you can write your own
Send the "Demand Letter to your dentist Certified with a return receipt
You are very young so  can you consider an over denture secured by 2 implants for your lower arch??
Good Luck
Barbara G
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Sharona
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Shelby Napier
Below is something on the internet about 
Why you send a Demand Letter
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"The simple reason that you need a demand letter is to let the other side know that you are serious in your desire for payment. Many times the people that owe you money think that you won't seriously go after them for payment. However, their feelings and thoughts often change after receiving a demand letter that sets out the ..."
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Good luck
Barbara
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Thanks for the info. I appreciate it
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I have had immediate temporary dentures since my extractions in November.  I quit wearing my bottom ones about a month ago due to them really really uncomfortable and tired of another realignment done.  BUT,  I did not have the terrible treatment you have had.  I am in the process of my permanent dentures now and my dentist said I am fine without them as my bone structure is very good.  I fortunately did not have the horrid experience you did, but without the bottoms it really is fine and most people do not even know.  Please do as others have advised and go after your dentist and get a new one.  This is reprehensible and you deserve better care.!!!
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I’m going to get new ones. I said above in some other comments I haven’t been wearing mine for one night and all of today, I can’t tell I don’t have them in but I still need teeth . I plan to raise cane
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I hope the dentist understands - which he should do once he has listened to you and examined inside your mouth - and then puts things right for you without you having to take any further steps. 

I have to say that it has shocked me reading the responses to your initial post that the first expectation of most people is that the dentist will not help in any way. In the UK, the dentist I worked for, and the dentists that I and my family have used (both NHS and private) would have done all they could to put things right without leaving the patient with no choice but to take legal action.  One full top denture that my boss made somehow had the mid-line in the wrong place;   he apologised to the patient and  sent it back to the technician immediately to be put right, and he asked them to make it a priority, which they did.  

Good luck, Shelby. I hope it all works out for you as soon as possible.
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Hi Dorothy
I would have the dentist fix the temporry first  so he knows what to do for the permanent
denture 

If he can't make the temporary fit what makes you think he can make a permanent denture properly??

I would tell him you paid for a temporary and it should fit
Tell him  your friends and family and the internet tells you if he can't make the temporary
fit you are afraid to spend more money  untill  this temporary fits

Suppose the permanents don't fit either so now you will  have paid for 2 lower arches that don't fit
I am afraid to say it but I don't think the permanent ones will work either
Do you want to pay for something that you can never wear???
Get the temps  that you paid for to fit first
Call his office

What is the name of your dental
firm??  Where do you live???
Barbara
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Shelby Napier

Hi Dorothy and Shelby

Do not let your dentist wear you out until you go away
Just keep going back until he gets it right
That is what you have have to do.

Just make sure that he knows you expect him to fix what is wrong.
Make sure they treat you with respect.  Tell them, if they are rude that
they have no right to treat you in ths fashion
Don't forget to look them up on the internet and see if their are complaints about them

At some point your dentist  should get it right and God forbid if he
does not get it right you will have to go on to step 2 which is
about getting a refund

Barbara

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Barbara is 100% correct, the dentist will try to wear you out, so you must persevere and wear him/her out, be a thorn in their side.  I'm not a fan of conflict myself, but I'll fight to the end when I know I've been wronged.  Eventually, when someone realizes they aren't going to get rid of you, they will almost certainly cater to your request.

Sadly, in today's society, such conflict is often necessary.  My favorite line to use is "Give me what I want, and I'll go away." (FYI - Stephen King "Storm of the Century"reference).  Be very calm, firm, and avoid showing any emotion.  They expect anger and outrage, being calm and disciplined combined with persistence tends to be very off-putting!

Trust me, it works.  There used to be some Latino children that bullied my now ex-stepson, and my nickname to them was "El Diablo" (The Devil).  All it required was firm words and a cold, dead stare.  They never bothered him or any member of my family after our discussion.  

David
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Re David's  Post about standing up to your Dentist:

You are correct David.  It is best not to get upset but to be firm when you
know something is wrong.   It is difficult to stand up for yourself but sometimes that is what 
we must do.

My friend in Florida was bullied by her dentist and never handled it properly.  She has never been able to use her lower denture and over paid.  She did not even handle her request for a refund correctly and now she has lost $5,500 for the dentures (the extractions were paid for in a seperate transaction)   She did not go to small claims court  in time and now has a complaint with the Dental Board in her state and we will see if she gets anything

About Bully's in General.  They are hard to handle no matter what their ethnic backround is
No  ethnic group has a corner on Bullys

When my children were young one son was bullied and it was by a group of Church going 
children.  Because it was a group it was hard to handle but I handled it.   One by one until
there were none.
Thanks for your input
Barbara
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Absolutely right Barbara, certainly no one group has a monopoly on bullies.  I was bullied as a kid myself, I was your typical geek/nerd type.  In that regard, it tends to hit home when I see others being taken advantage of or bullied.  I'm still a geek now, but at my age I don't care anymore lol!  

I'm truly sorry to hear about your friend, she may have lost the battle, but perhaps she shall win the war.  I certainly hope so!  At least she has your support, that often goes a long way.  When people feel alone, they are more likely to shirk away from a situation.

One of the many reasons I opted to become a caretaker for my father was the fact I saw him being taken advantage of by contractors/businesses doing work he could no longer handle.  My mom had always been the aggressive one, and after she passed away due to cancer, dad didn't have her backing him.  I made a promise to her I would always fight for him.

A year ago I moved back to Ohio, and reduced my software development career to part-time.  Dad still has his independence and dignity, but also has my help when he needs it.  In the situations he does need outside help (i.e. a contractor to repair something in the house I cannot), I do research online, and arrange everything.  He's taken to referring to me as his "business manager". 

It took him some adjustment initially, but as I told him: "There is no greater honor than to care for one's parent as they themselves were once cared for".  I've noticed he smiles and laughs a lot more with me here than he used to, particularly since I brought my Flame Point Siamese cat (aptly named Flame) along.  He has some wildcat blood in him, so he's HUGE (all muscle), but a gentle giant that is quite protective of my father.

Anyway, I seem to rambling, best regards to your friend!

David
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Your father is Lucky to have you and Flame
You are his Life line
Your cat sounds fabulous
A Pet is theraphy and people that have them must live longer
Barbara
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FYI, this is Flame sleeping on my bed waiting for me to retire for the night.  He's semi-curled, so it gives you an idea of how gigantic he is.  Dad gets a kick out of how responsive he is to me, comes when called and follows me everywhere.  Indeed he was about the best therapy I could ask for when I lost my teeth, never left my side. 
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As expected Flame is a beauty
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