Our Dentist sent us to an Oral surgeon, now the price is way more than we can afford!

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Our dentist after 5 appointments back and forth has referred my husband to an oral surgeon. He said he (being the dentist) will make the dentures and send them to the oral surgeon and then he will have to return back to him the next day and for all follow up re-alignments.   The oral surgeon is much more expensive than the dentist was.  Has anyone else had this happen?  After 5 appointments the dentist say 'we have to refer you out now?"  Also, since these are immediate dentures and they are very expensive, we are so worried that they won't fit. What happens if they have to be remade? This whole process is costing close to $10,000 and we will not have another penny for any more add on's.  I see now why people have bad teeth at these prices. 
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I suppose it is better than having your original dentist take on a job that he feels he can't handle. Perhaps a second opinion from another dentist would be a next step before getting involved with an oral surgeon.
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I have a feeling it started when he did 2 extractions and did not take my husband off of his blood thinners.. He did bleed pretty bad and I have a feeling that concerned him with the amount of time that would be involved.  The oral surgeon said he was glad he sent him because it was even going to be alot of work for him. 
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Number one, doctors love to refer patients to their buddies, other doctors. It's a money game. Number two, have a frank discussion with the dentist how the oral surgeon will exhaust your finances. Number three, call social services in your town & see if they have a specialist who may help you with this. Most towns have money for citizens with unexpected surgeries. Good Luck!
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ks west
Do not do another thing with your original dentist or with the 
oral surgeon   
Just first cancel your next appointment with your dentst
but tell him you are not feeling well and will get back to them

Now is the time for you to do all your research
Go to a few dentists that offer free (no cost to you) consultations and see what they tell you
How much have you paid your first dentist so far???  

Look up all your questions on the internet

Ask all your questions here

Your temporary dentures are something almost something that you can do without

Do you need both upper and lower dentures?
There is no rush find out what the problem is right now

If it was me I would forget both these dentists right now
How much money have you paid so far?
Did you pay anything to the oral surgeon??
 
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Yes, he has been putting this off for a while so now he does need both upper and lower.  We have a "one day denture" but we have chosen to go with the higher priced dentist and better quality dentures since he is 54 and we don't want to replace them in a few years. 
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finding a good dentist whether it be at a one day denture or a prothodontist is a 'crap shoot'....most don't 'make the denture' they send it to a lab. with written instructions and 'hope for the best' ...from someone who's 'been there'....the WORST upper i got was from a prosthodontist who cost me my 401 k money and she had 'no hands on experience' just kept sending it back to the lab-to someone who would never see me-a good denture that fits is 'rare' and it shouldn't be that way.  
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ks west
How much have they quoted you for the temporary dentures??
How much have they quoted you  for the permanent denutres?
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The temporary denture should be the very inexpensive denture because it only has to last for 6 months
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The perfect solution to dentures if you are not a candidate for partial dentures would be a clip on denture or an over denture

Both the clip on denture   and the over denture are secured by implants
This is a much more comfortable solution 
They cost more but you are in the $10,000 range already 
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I agree with you,dentist are too expensive and people cannot afford to go to the dentist when they need to. its better to take care of the problem head on than let it go and it becomes a bigger problem. for senior's and low imcome wages I wish medicare would include dental service's just like health insurance you have to take care of your health as you do dental. in the long run when you get older it can be leading up to dentures , 
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Dental insurance usually has a 2000.00 max per year.  But I guess with dentures, at least hopefully once it is done, its done. 
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ks west
Dentures are never done
No such thing as once it is done it's done

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i am retired on medicare and also have what they call denti-cal-just last year-they started covering full dentures and partials for adults
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Is Denti-Cal just in your state
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not sure-it comes with my medicare/medi-cal and just a year ago-they added dentures and partials and a few other things BUT who to go to is still my problem-any dentist who accepts it will say 'sure-we can help you' then you're 'stuck' so i really need to find someone good-even if i have to save the cash which isn't easy on my s.s.  i have 'just enough to live'....where do you live?
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i called medicare and they never heard of denti -cal service Im interesting in getting this for future dental trips ,down the road I might have to have bottom dentures 
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To Clydene Shipman
Do every thing you can do to avoid bottom dentures
Most people have a lot of trouble with them
Preserve as many bottom teeth as you can because partial dentures are so much more stable then complete dentures
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i think denti-cal is only in california but i would think other states have something similar-if not-they should
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I    had my teeth extracted by an oral surgeon and my dentist had my dentures made and has done all the adjustments since.  I    have had 2 soft relines and will most likely get another in July and when I    am done with the swelling they will be rebased so they should fit without adjustments.   I    had my extractions done on 2/25 and have had to go back at lest 2-3 times a month for adjustments. I     think it is totally normal to have this done.  I    have a complex medical history and the oral surgeon was able to take care of these issues better than my dentist. 
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My husband is on blood thinners so all of his teeth have to be surgically removed.  The oral surgeon said the dentist would be a 4 hour procedure where he will be about 1 1/2 hours max and he will have some bones to smooth out. I think the shock of the fees just hit me as well now of the panic of "what if they dont fit?" I will not have money for a 2nd pair, but I am sure what they are charging there is some sort of guarantee in there and I will call them tomorrow to discuss a few things.
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Just FYI.....my immediate denture fit fine. Procedure done 4/29 and this past Friday was the first time I tried a small amount of adhesive. I have not had to have any adjustments made to the denture so far.
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ks west
You should be speaking to your doctor and not your dentist about your blood thinners to begin with

I am  on blood thinners and I would not have all those extractions done at one time to begin with

Where do you live and do you have a dental college that you can consult with??
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The oral surgeon has already set up the appointment with the cardiologist. They will not allow any work to be done without signing off on it.  We are in Central Illinois. 
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You should speak to your cardiologist about doing the upper and lowers at different times and speak to dentists about partial dentures
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DEFINITELY-if he has 'any' good teeth top & bottom-keep them and just get partials-that way they WILL stay in and no adhesive and all the crap the rest of us go through.  i wish i'd know this way back.  
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Hi Donnie
I was thinking bout your quest for better dentures

Why don't you locate a denurist Lab near you
Call them and tell them you need a repair on your present  dentures
Then when you see them bring in  your old dentures and tell them  what yo want done
if they say a repair will not work then ask them if  they would make you a new set
Perhaps they would  do that and you can work directly with them

If they can not do that then  maybe they know a dentist that  they can refer  you to
and then since they made the referral perhaps  you can also get your fittings and molds done  at their lab

I remember when I was having my implants done for some reason the dentist sent me to the Lab and they did some fittings and color matches
Some how you could make this work
What do yo think?
Barbara
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i think that you think like i think-lol...i have found a lab and i called them-they actually said 'sure-come on in and we'll see if we can help you'....i never was 'fearful' in my life but that last SPECIALIST i saw-deflated me-i felt like i'd lost all hope-i came home and have been trying hard to get my strength and courage back to 'venture out' again-thinking around july-i'll be turning 65-i'll have to pay cash-i didn't ask prices on the phone so we'll see what happens-i just try to keep reaching out to see if anyone has found someone around my area who 'has a clue'....thank you for your 'very thoughtful' reply.  there are SO MANY of us who didn't know what we were in for.  
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Donnie
I hope this works for you
It probably would turn out 10 X's better then going to the dentist

Maybe you  can negotiate a very good price  I hope
Keep us in the loop
I hope this is your escape route
Good Luck
Barbara
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Donnie
Just keep using the word repair so the man does not get  nervous
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thanks-you made me laugh because-i know what you mean-i think he has a 'dentist'? on staff so it's o.k. that he does all the work while the dentist sits and 'hopefully' learns...i'll keep you posted-i'm trying to get my faith and strength back from all the let downs.  
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What I really do not understand is why there are all these mail order denture places that can make dentures for every one and then someone  ??   is saying they can not make a denture if a live person is standing there asking for one???
If that same person mails them the information then they can make the same denture and  it is OK???
Are you sure this place you are going to is not a regular dental office with a denturist on staff???
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i don't 'get' how mail order dentures are legal either-then why can't we have a denturist in all states-they are trained and have taken classes to learn how to make dentures-unlike dentist who never made one in school-i know of the prosthodontis dept. at u.s.c. here-i was over there many years ago and i heard students offering to pay other students to 'make the denture' they'd get graded on?  so-we think this TITLE of prosthodontist insures us of getting a good denture and it doesn't and there may be some dentist out there who 'does have the artistic ability' between him or her and the lab to get what we want-it's so hard-down here in so. cal. i know a couple of labs. that let people come in and they will pay cash and work with them-it's kind of a trust thing-i think a dentist (here in ca) can have a denturist working with him which is ideal IF they know what they're doing-all denturists aren't good either-i am SOOOO frustrated because i've learned TOO MUCH and they're not used to a patient who knows what they want.  they just want someone who sits there and let's THEM decide.  o.k.-RANT OVER....god willing-i'm going to venture out again sometimes in july-check out this place and see what i think.  one more thing, if you live in a state where it's legal for DENTURISTS to practice, go to them and never get FULL dentures if you have any teeth left-save them and only get partials.  
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I found this  following guide to save money on dental care on the internet.

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Using these alternative options, you can spend much less on dentures than you would at face value:

  • Get a dental discount plan
  • Make sure your dental insurance covers denture-related costs
  • Consider dental tourism
  • Get dental care at a dental school
  • Look into joining a government program
  • Know your market and feel free to negotiate with dental professionals
  • Pay in cash
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I found this  following guide to save money on dental care on the internet.

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Using these alternative options, you can spend much less on dentures than you would at face value:

  • Get a dental discount plan
  • Make sure your dental insurance covers denture-related costs
  • Consider dental tourism
  • Get dental care at a dental school
  • Look into joining a government program
  • Know your market and feel free to negotiate with dental professionals
  • Pay in cash
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I also had extractions by oral surgeon and dentures made thru the dentist with all follow up appointments with the dentist. This seemed a normal way to go about it to me, both dentist and oral surgeon took care of the things that they are qualified to handle.
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I'm glad your experience went well, your team really care about their patients, I had tmj wired jaw surgery while back and the doctor.oral surgeon was great , take care
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Hi Clydene, yes I was very fortunate to have found two very professional and caring dentists! So good to hear you had a great team also!
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If you have dental insurance that pays $2.000 a year perhaps spreading this over 2019 and 2020  would save you money
Maybe you could do the uppers one year and the lowers the next year 
 
That way there will be fewer extractions at one time and less bleeding as far as the blood thinners are concerned
 
Is there any way you can be a candidate for partial bridges either for your upper or lower jaw???
Ask a consulting dentist that question

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wow-after reading this-i feel for you-most dentists do not make dentures-they send an impression to the lab and 'hope for the best'....you HAVE to have a wax try-in to see how it's going to look but they usually make you an immediate denture if they're pulling ALL teeth-can he keep SOME teeth and just get partials? that's your best bet and that dentist is charging you too much for a denture-i worked at a dental lab. for a couple of years during my working years-supplies DO NOT cost that much-they just jack up their prices because the 'can' very rare to find a dentist or even a prosthodontist who has 'any' hands on experience with dentures-i would get my $ back from 1st dentist and again-see if some of the teeth can be saved-hope this helps.

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I agree with Donnie
I would have a surgeon do the extractions (one jaw at a time) but first see if either your upper or lower can work  with partial dentures keeping  as many of your own teeth as  possible;)
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amen sister!  (  :      i can't go back but i sure can try to help others from making the same mistakes i did.  
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Below is from the internet about implants
Click on it to read  the article

Dental Implants: Why They're Worth the Money - AARP The Magazine
https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-01.../the_bionic_mouth.html

Even well-made dentures can withstand only one-sixth the chewing force that ... Some patients can have implants only after their jawbones are built up via ... cuts and peels back the gums, then drills four holes into the mandible. ... We both know it's only a matter of time before he will face his own rendezvous with dentistry.

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I see the tv ad's about dental implants  so if there so good than why doesn't any dentist insurance covers the cost? the only one's who can afford are the one's who have money. bad move on the millions of people who need dental work and get to a dentist when they want too  
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from what i've learned (too much) is that even with implants-if someone has no clue how to make your 'smile' look good-'natural' ...you're just throwing more money away.  those front top 6 to 10 you see in the 'at rest' and smile are what's important and it's rare for me to see a good one-even in some of the 'advertisements on dental pages-the denture look fake and like 'one size fits all'....one more thing-my mom just turned 87-back in the day-she got an implant and she got a 'really bad' infection from it just recently so that's something to think about too.  for me-even if offered implants-i'd stick with partials and if i'd known better 'then' i would only need a partial on top but listened and believed dr. frankenstein who advised to PULL THOSE REMAINING GOOD TOP TEETH-i'm still 'in search of' someone (i have 2 places that people have shared with me) not sure if either is right-i've been through so much NO GOOD that i'm almost afraid to go out and 'try again'.....
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Donnie
are you any where near  those states that allow denturist to Practice???
Would you go to Mexico?
I have implants on my uppers and lower and they are very old and I never had any trouble with them  
My insurance did not pay for the implants but they paid toward the rest of the work
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check on aspen dental they will work with you and a payment plan,its like finding the right doctor you check them out and see if you like office and their staff judging them on what someone said can be untrue , they might had a bad experience also check out statist good and bad. 
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i want to go to a denturist-i knew one up in daly city but the 'dentists' chased him out-he was taking what they thought was 'their business'...they threatened him with a fine of 5,000. each if he kept making dentures and he was good-he went back to texas and at one point he told me if i could get there-he'd help me-he got sick and a lot of people were looking for him for help-anyway-denturist were able to practice in 7 states just a while back and now i just saw this-if you're in one of these states and you need dentures-definitely got to one of them:  Denturism is currently legal in Arizona, Colorado, Maine, and Oregon. In the first three States, the denturist must practice under the supervision of a dentist, but in Oregon the denturist is able to enter independent practice.
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