Permanent Dentures

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Do we have anyone in here that is fully healed and wearing full uppers and lowers?

I'm curious how those people are doing? Do you need/use adhesives?

I'm asking because right now I have a mouth full of "hills and valleys" and I truly believe that is more than half the problem with the adhesives.

We all are at different stages, have unique shapes to our faces/bone structure/hills and valleys. I think it would be impossible to meet the needs of every one of us (and I BEG that no one mentions Cushion Grip!)

It's great that we are all here to support each other because well let's face it, who else can understand?

I just think, and yes I realize that I'm a nobody in the grand scheme of things, that instead of bashing any products we should just state how it works on us. Just because Patient X tries Fixodent Powder and doesn't like it doesn't mean that it's a bad product -it means that it didn't work for X, it may be the perfect thing for Patient Z.

I know this is an open forum, so I can't tell people what to say or not say, I just wish it was a little more upbeat and focused on Q & A's regarding the dentures, suggestions, and what to expect, etc.

Ok, I'll step off my soapbox now.

Thank you for reading this!
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Hi AliciaP, We have talked on here a time or two.  I've still got the hills and valleys that you mentioned.  My Husband on the other hand has full uppers and lowers.  He is fully healed and his gums have leveled out, but he still has to use the goop to hold them in.  He has had his permanent dentures for about 21/2 years.  He has lots of bone loss.  He uses fixodent neutral with no zinc.  He says that sets up best for him and lasts the longest, but he still has to do restick it later in the day.  Sorry the news isn't better, but maybe it will be different for us.  I sure hope so.
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Of course i remember us chatting Shirley! I am hoping that I don't have too much bone loss and find that I'm like my dad. He got dentures when he was in the Navy, 58 years ago. He still has the same pair - nothing done to them except 1 tooth replaced about 5 years ago because he dropped his teeth and it was badly chipped. He doesn't use any adhesive at all
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If I thought my dentures would last 58 years I'd have them made of gold! Wow he's fortunate!

I dropped mine yesterday and just about crapped my pants. Glad they didn't break.
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Nice post Alicia. :-) I'm a partial denture wearer at this time, but if it's any help, I've heard of other full denture wearers who find that a combination of adhesives with powder for long lasting stability in a day. Others, as you say, are fine with either powder or adhesive, and some lucky folks don't need anything! We're all individual mouths as you say. And at different healing stages. Take care. 
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Thank you for your kind words Anne!

How would you use a combination of powder and paste?
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I haven't tried it myself yet, but some say that you can put on the powder first, let it set for a minute, then the adhesive stuff. Then, after a minute, another layer of powder on top of that! xx
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I'm a newbie, 6 days after extractions & full dentures. I thought I had researched / was prepared / knowledgeable, & ready. Boy, was I wrong! Just in the past hour, I've learned alot from reading posts here!!
I am glad I found this forum. :)
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I've had my permanent dentures for about a month and yes I have to use adhesives. :( I am going back on the 26th for another adjustment. I've had bone loss so I'm stuck with using adhesive. It's been a long 8 months. I am still not used to having them in my mouth. I agree that all the hills and valleys are part of the problem. The other I think is our salivary glands. I have had dry mouth since I've gotten dentures and read that it can impact how they seal in your mouth. Something else I didn't know.
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I was suffering from dry mouth too until I got a soft reline. That seemed to help significantly. However, I've since ripped out the reline due to bad taste and off-gassing, so back to dry mouth. It's a journey for sure. 
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Big time journey. I went on a different website and found that dry mouth can affect the suction and adhesive with your upper denture. Explains a lot for me. Hopefully, I can come up with a solution.
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So far the only thing I have come up with that only slightly begins to help is lozenges. The ones that are supposed to promote saliva production. But, I say, put any kind of food product in your mouth and it's gonna water! So I stopped throwing good money after bad on those things. I'm so sick of minty flavoured things. I'd kill for something that has no taste at all. It's only job is to make spit. Why is that so hard? I have moved on to diabetic candy. At least it's sugar free and not minty! I'll gag if I ever taste anything minty again!
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I'm going to have to try both. Even eating I am having issues. It's a pain because you can't eat or drink for a half hour or so after applying adhesive and your mouth isn't cooperating. I think I'll be stopping at the market before work for lozenges and candy. By the way, my dentist didn't know that cushion grip was off the market.
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I have really bad dry mouth too, but I was already dealing with that before I had what was left of my teeth pulled.

One thing that I have found to be very helpful is Ice Breakers Cool Blasts. They are called chews but I just suck on one until it completely dissolves!

Oh, and my dearest friend Pickle Teeth, I special ordered a whole case with triple the mint flavor JUST FOR YOU (I think you know why lol). They will be at your new house waiting for you! It was truly the least I could do! ;)

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LMAO Pickle Teeth!!! You kill me!!

Gimme your address, I will send you a thank you card.
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Cushion Grip! Cushion Grip! Cushion Grip! My kingdom for some Cushion Grip!

You know I couldn't resist!  LOL Please don't unfriend me! :)

I have a drawer full of different adhesives. Though my most "go to"  is Fixodent. Not because it works really great but because it doesn't leave that nasty monomer taste so common in other adhesives. It holds pretty good, with a bit of rocking, but I also don't have a permanent denture either so I think this is a typical experience.

I avoid Poligrip simply because, for me, it tastes so bad and off-gasses like mad. This is something I haven't heard from anyone else, so just call me weird on this one.

I also have Poligrip powder. I've only used it successfully once. I think it was a fluke. But when it did work, it was the best of all.

I get the best results from paste adhesives if I spread it around on the clean and dried denture instead of just leaving it there and then I make sure my palate and gums are dry also. It seems that my normal body heat softens the adhesive and helps form a better and more lasting suction.

I have Sea Bond Wafers as well and in the beginning it was my preferred option simply because it added some protection over and around the initial tissue sores we all get. The glue seems to form a gelatinous consistency after a half hour or so which over the long term I would come to hate but appreciated for it's unintended cushioning effect.

Alicia, you are correct in pointing out that what works for one, will not work for all. I have highly acidic saliva which serves to break down the adhesives very quickly. Everyone's ph balance will be different and therefore the experience is unique and discreet to the individual. Every day is a new adventure. As we move through the healing process, what worked yesterday, might not work tomorrow. I look forward to the day I have a properly fitted denture.

I wish there was a silver bullet but in the fullness of time we will find what works best for us, the individual.

I'm also interested in hearing more about combined adhesives. I think I read that somewhere some are using powder and paste together. How does that work? I'm a gamer and will give it a go today!

Great topic!
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So while ya'll are talking about dry mouth, I find that I make so much Saliva with these things in my mouth that I am constantly swallowing.  My big problem is chapped lips.  My lips have been chapped since I had my teeth pulled and tomorrow makes 7 weeks for me.  My gums are healing up great but still have a long way to go I think.  I am waiting for a second soft reline which should probably be coming soon.  What a mess this is.  But at least I have you guys to share my misery with.
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I would kill for your problem right now lol I have visions of you drooling all over the place while you sleep. LOL
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LoL, it's not funny!  I don't sleep with my teeth in so it's a lot better without them.  It is only when I have them in my mouth.  It's a big mouth full of plastic.  But they are pretty.  I guess it's better than not making spit.  The glue doesn't stay stuck for me either.  Right now i'm using the Fixodent and Poligrip Powders.  I can't decide which one is best cause they both come lose before the day is over and I've given up trying to eat anything with them in.  I drink with them in and wait till I am home to eat without them.  I want a Whataburger so bad right now!
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I had the exact same issue for a week or so after my extractions. I slept with a dish towel under me. It was awful. Now, it's the opposite. Just bought the lozenges for producing saliva and some sugar free candy. Plus the fixodent powder. I tried poligrip powder and loved the feel. It didn't last long. Fixodent free is the only paste that holds for me. I can eat but have to time it right.
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Shirley, you are a funny girlie!!!  LOL

Welcome to Droolers Anonymous!

Please step up to the podium and introduce yourself. We are here to support you and help you through this.

I am just about to head out for my daily bike ride. I do about 15 - 20 miles per day. Trying to maintain my disappearing girlish figure. It's a seasonably balmy 6C/42F. Those leggings are gonna look mahvelous on my chubby legs LOL

Anyway, I am going to try doubling up on adhesive because my ride usually includes a Starbucks pitstop and I want a coffee without my damn teeth falling out!  LOL

I'm going to put the paste on the denture, and rub it all around, then I'm going to spritz some water on there and add a dash of powder and slap that sucka in and pray it sticks!

Wish me luck dahlinks!!! Will check in when I get there!

Droolers unite!!
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Please let us know how that works for you.  I'll do anything to have them stay just long enough to eat a burger.
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So, I'm 15 miles and 1 hour in. I used paste with a small amount of powder sprinkled on top. Plenty of time to set. I don't know if I could eat a burger as the hold is not as snug as I think it should be. In thinking about this in my ride I'm starting to think that air pockets are a key to the effectiveness of adhesives. It'd be best if there weren't any. Since I don't have a soft liner and I have a temporary denture, the fit is less than optimal. That being said, I am not feeling like 2 is better than 1 in this case. 
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Man, I'm sorry that didn't work for you.  I just got home from work and yanked those suckers out.  My bottom plate will not stay put.  I only work for 5 hours and I only drink water at work.  I don't understand.  That picture you showed was of your top plate.  My top plate stays put all day, it's the bottoms that I have a problem with.  I just made myself another appt. with the dentist.  They are bound to be tired of me but I can't live like this.  I need my teeth!
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Yes, it was the top plate. I removed it because it was huge!

I hate having no teeth, but I also hate having them! What a weird world I exist in now.

My husband is ordering pizza tonight. He'll eat it and I'll sniff it LOL
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Heather, NOOOO.....you can eat pizza without teeth if you cut it up.  My favorite is D'giorno's stuffed crust pepperoni.  It cooks up in 20 minutes and tastes so good.
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Shirley, the oral surgeon that pulled my teeth told me when I had my consult to purchase a jar of Vaseline and plan on using it often! He said that chapped lips are common when going through this!
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I do not enjoy eating without my teeth. I feel like my jaw is banging my forehead lol

He had his pizza and I had mashed potatoes. *sigh*

Back home we have Papa Murphy's Pizza. They make the pizza but you cook it. It's great!
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I have been without my teeth for 5+ years but had to wait 14 months to get to that stage as my dentist insisted on an over denture first. Because of insurance issues (only a set every 5 years), I had to have the over denture fixed for a permanent full denture. So the upper plate does not have the full pallet covered for adhesion. Most of the time, that still works fine but for true security, I use a small amount of "SECURE" adhesive. I find it to be the very best. Suggest if you need adhesive try this (can purchase on Amazon)
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I have heard nothing but good things about Secure. I will definitely be ordering some once I'm moved.