Removed Pallet from Upper Denture

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Got dentures but they insisted on giving me an upper pallet, blocking tongue from roof of mouth.  I bought a Dremel Tool and used the plastic cutter with a little olive oil to cut out the center pallet.  I used a Dremel sanding drum to smooth edges.  I had no Dremel experience whatsoever but it was a breeze; no problems.  I did have to rig a little jig, to hold the denture. So far works great with Fixodent Plus.
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Thtat sounds interesting but how do your teeth stay in especially when you eat?
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adhesive - if I did not remove that I gag...so I cannot eat regardless unless I removed it
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Mine stay in except for eating.
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Hi Deb, are you now saying your upper horse shoe wont stay in so you can eat?? I thought you were able to eat with it in ??
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I am so excited i was not wearing the dentures i could not eat or talk and was gagging all the time. I removed the upper pallet and used poliygrip i look great feel great. You must do this. Its supper easy. Going to try enclosing pictures. If not text me your phone number and i will send pictures
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I then trimmed it with the dremel tool to make it smooth
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Listen if you have dentures you have already struggled thru live so you doing this is nothing just do it for about 25 bucks you can buy a cheap dremel tool with every thing. Ps any available women in miami now o can date
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Good for you. Everyone else please if you do this...and I did..go slowly and sand out a small amount at a time and rinse and try in. It makes a wonderful difference. Join FB group Do Your Own Dentures.
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HI
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You are right you can always remove more but not put back. As they say measure twice cut once. What a difference i no longer sound like Elmer fudd
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Any questions munisr@aol.com. or dates. Lol. I am going out to show off
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I have no idea how to post this on other sites. But i just did the same thing for my dad he is 90 and now loves it its like sleeping on a lumpy old mattress then buying a new pillow top
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Ha ha good  analogy !  Happy for both of you.
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Many years ago i was in a. AA group and they would give you a white poker chip with a little loop on it to put on a key chain as a sign of surrender and hope. I am taking that pallet piece drillinh a hole in it a putting that on my key chain as a sign of freedom . Maybe i will see others
.... oneday. I hope i have helped someone out there let us eat cake
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Hahahah I can see people looking at you trying to figure out what the heck is on your keychain, and the heck with cake, I want real food been eating soft food since last sept. I am slowly back to eating again and although I dont like a lot of foods it feels good to eat what I do like. So glad its working out for you.
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Here is what i used bought it at harbor freight
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You can cut down your dentures then build a bird house lol
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Lol my dremel is from there too, I used it to get started, but now I mostly use an electric nail file with bits that I actually got for free thru a rebate thing on facebook.
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Is my particial denture for my front tooth, is it suppose to roach my tooth of my mouth cause it doesn’t there’s a gap between the roof of my mouth and flipper
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Sounds like they need to redo it.
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 I also  invite you to join Do Your Own Denture group on Facebook. We help each other to make and adjust our own dentures. If you go there answer the questions to join.
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Can my dental office customize my upper denture? I’m having the same problem., except I also have a large tongue. The space between my tongue and the pallet on my upper denture is paper thin. I gag and have problems swallowing. A horseshoe shaped would be very ideal.
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You can ask but as mine said no. Google denture without pallet they will only sell them if you are having them permanently attached. With screws to your gums about 6000.00 mine work great after i cut them down i now wear them every day one draw back if you go out to dinner eat and drink they may loosen up. I carry a tube of adhesive with me if i go out to eat and reattach in the bathroom. I also just saw they sell the adhesive in small travel size but they are expensive
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Paul Muni I wish you would join FB group Do Your Own Dentures and let more people know how you are doing. In the group we let people know what their options are and that  actually that there are options. Implants are bad for the mouth and the whole body so you are lucky you could not afford them.  I also wear my horse shoed dentures all day and only use adhesive powder if I am going to eat out. We also share info on how to make your own dentures.. I make my own. I am so happy you are happy with your denture palett out. It is a whole new life, isn't it? And it is at no extra cost.
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Does this really work? I got a new upper denture and can't stand the part on the roof of my mouth
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Cindy look at the pictures i posted it works. I was gagging did not taste food a slurred my words. Is that what you really want to live with. Its like getting a pebble in your shoe. Yeah you can keep walking or you can say enough and remove the pebble its just that simple.
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that is exactly what is happening to me now
I hate wearing them. do they stay in place good and tight? what the heck is the purpose of the thing on the roof of the mouth anyway :(
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can this work for a partial denture on top to get rid of the part on the roof of the mouth?
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Not sure but it be worth researching
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I had my dentist remove the top palate part of my top partial Denture. It was making me gag and causing a severe sore throat!
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Show me the Tool
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The Fixodent plus locks in my uppers, rock solid.  I'm not sure that would apply to everyone, and denture professionals always say that implants are needed if you remove the pallet.  But I don't have implants and it still seems to work perfectly.

I had courage to cut out the pallet because when I had it, I could barely get my dentures out even after many hours; the Fixodent plus had them locked in so very well.
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Well maybe you didn't need the fixodent to hold in your dentures. I never wear anything to hold in my uppers and I've had them for 40 years. Just need something for bottoms
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I finally made it that level also. Took 2 years to get top to stay without adhesive. Finally!
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Good for you!!  Hope it keeps working out.
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Maybe that's what I need to do...get a Dremel and do a little adjusting for myself!  Thanks for the thought!
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If my dentist won’t curve and reduce my upper plate, I have been considering the dremm route as well but I know I will need most of the pallet because my gumline is like a roller coaster.
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How about your speech? Did it change to more normal after you removed the pallet?
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I have been considering the same thing. I got the comfy lights and still can't eat . I've had 100 adjustments at least and I'm sick of it. I will practice on my temps . maybe I can pop those in when. I'm hungry. Thanks for the post. Wish me luck because I'm having a hard time with all this.
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Again, I would caution about making alterations to you dentures. If you break them or sustain damage, you may be responsible for the full cost of replacing your denture.  If that is not cash that you have then you may be without teeth.  
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Yes, definitely be careful doing it yourself but...Don't ask your dentist to do something. TELL him/her what you want and tell them you are paying them for their services, they are working for you. 
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I have not ware my dentures in 5 yrs I can not eat with them ever. I would love to do the same thing with upper palate . it can be done!
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I took 1/2 of mine out tonight with a Dremmel and am delighted with the result
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Ah, good! A recent post on this! Can you post a picture of your upper denture with palate dremeled out? I also  invite you to join Do Your Own Denture group on Facebook. We help each other to make and adjust our own dentures.
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I can’t find your faceboook page? What is the name of it please?
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I started my at 9:30 pm it is now almost 3am.a little more tweaking and buff them up and im done.i just tried on and am very very happy so far with results.im. lookking forward to smiling again and eating without gagging or interference with my taste.it takes time to learn to eat almost but not nearly as aweful probally like someone with a prostetic arm or leg.after a while they become part of you.ive been without teeth for 6 months and really glad i found this site.happy smiling everyone and bon apetite!
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can you post pics of your upper denture now from different angles please
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Starla Harmon Ryer

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this forum will not allow photos larger then what my camera will take - so sorry, no I cannot
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Starla can you email me at trishy219@yahoo.com I have had nothing in my mouth for 5 months Im so desperate for help. I would love to see your denture please
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You can find some of these people in the fb group Do Your Own Dentures
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I have been using my upper dentures for almost 12 years, no problem, but, on December 2018, I got dehadrated, now I can,t stand my dentures for more than 4 hours, I use to have them on from 10:00 AM to 10:00 P.M. I wonder who could give me some advice or a solution.
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How much of the pallet have you removed? I haven't been able to wear mine for about 4yrs hence no smiles either. Can't afford in plants so been thinking of doing that. I need to do something soon. Do you think they would stay in for someone that used to be a singer?
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Did you ever read up on the down side of implants and watch you tubers that basically state that the implants are useless and then a burden because they still can't wear the denture but the posts are sticking  up in the mouth. 
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Howard Chennells, Join Facebook group Do Your Own Dentures and just make your own and adjust your own dentures.
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Manuel, Howard, take things into your own hands and do what some of us are doing, some are making their uppers into horseshoes and its working, Im one of those people, please join the group do your own dentures its an amazing educational bunch of nice people. Good advice and tips there
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I want to thank you I had my old dentures and tried it and love it thank you very much they work great I can taste my food again and its nice to feel the top of my roof of my mouth God Bless you 
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Diane, dont know who your thanking but WOOHOOO GOOD FOR YOU, isnt it wonderful, I know for me and my ocd stuff I will always regret having to have dentures and I think I will always struggle with them, but I am very thankful for the open palate design.
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I am thanking who ever posted this cause it really works great for me yahoo.
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THATS SO GREAT CONGRATS YAYYYY!!!!
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I just googled open pallet dentures and they do offer them but they are to be implanted with screws. The dentist do not offer an open pallet set that you just use adhesives i do not know why
I am very happy some of you are trying what i did. Chow down everyone.....paul muni
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Could it have anything to do with money? lol 
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By the way Paul are you going to get into the Do Your Own Dentures group so you can encourage people to take care of things themselves? :) 
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They want you to get implants so they LIE and tell you it wont work, I tried 3 different dentist not 1 would take my money and make me a horse shoe upper even after I said to void the warranty? So is it because they have never worn a denture and they really dont know that it CAN work, I mean it just makes No sense not to take someones money , I guess if it didnt work they wouldnt want me telling everyone they made me a denture that doesnt work, but in the end thats what we get. IRONIC-MORONIC LOL NOT SURE WHICH
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Implants leave bacteria go into your body because the human tissue does not seal around the post. You have an idea here. the dentists would not want people to know what they do not need. 
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good news
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I have to have a full upper and i asked my dentist for a horseshoe all they said i would not work but after doing some research i found out to duse work watch this im going to show my dentest this video and if the still dont make me a set i will DIY it my self https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq-rNh5GnTIWEYETBn4xGdw
when you get on her page look out for this  DenSureFit on Horseshoe Upper Denture
 
she uses some thing called Densurefit have a look at her video and see 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbC5MbAKYBs&t=666s  Starting at about 13:03  Donna has some good info along with usually more chatty stuff that I don't need. You can also find more info on getting rid of the gag factor in the Fb group Do Your Own Dentures.
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I would say it is good to let the dentist make the denture first as he will. Then when all else is a fit you might consider the horse shoe deal. Make sure they stop the upper at the end of the hard palate. When it i over the soft pallet that is the gag factor.
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Could you take a picture of denture?
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I have not removed it completely but cut it down far enough to keep me from gagging and to be able to touch the roof of my mouth and taste. I need to work on it a bit because it is too thick.  This is just a temp set so I feel at liberty to work with them....I have actually removed 1/4 of the upper pallet and this seems to have done the job for me. Now I need to work on the 1/8" thickness that it has created. I cannot upload a photo because it says my image is too large but you can message me on my FB page and I can send you one that way. Starla Harmon Ryer
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I posted here at the bottom of this page about 5 months ago. I still do not regret cutting out the top denture. As for pictures I think the ones on this page represent the norm. I just used a marker to show about a 1" U leaving a lot of the sides. Used the dremmel disk to lightly etch the line and then cutting down slowly so as not to chip or slip. If you can handle an electric screw driver then there should be no problem. There are other tool ends for finishing the process of smoothing and rounding. I have experience with a dremmel but have never had a learning problem other than trying to do a precise job too fast. I would give it about a half hour. I think about half my tongue in the front contacts the denture. That is really no problem. It is a good thing to cut as little as you need while leaving all the sides and some of the top for extra support. I have temp dentures and have no thoughts of moving on to any others but I did get expensive temps and they are stronger and look good.

I have no regrets at all. You still need to keep up with relining as you go because no amount of glue will keep a loose denture in place for long and your bone structure may not be as even or level as it should be (you chew on one side and the other pops down). Before you attempt this you should be sure to have about as much upper bone as you do lower. If you do not have anything much to grab onto up there then you may need that pallet to help hold. I have fairly good bone all around though a bit uneven on top. After these 5 months I can eat pretty much anything and the dentures are like normal teeth and I can taste things again.
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I'm constantly gagging....especially when I talk or when I'm thirsty. And it's so thick there's not enough room for my tongue to move to pronounce words properly, much less food...I sound like I have a lisp or speech Impediment. Guess I'll be digging out the Dremel too.
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Call your dentist he/she can trim the palate back a little bit to stop that from happening . If you do it yourself and remove to much you will lose the suction.
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If you join the Facebook group, Do your own dentures you might pick up more ideas on this . 
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Could you take a picture of denture?
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Jeanne Roushey

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Could you take a picture of denture?
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I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE TOOL YOU USED I WANNA DO MINE ALSO
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Yes, I'll try to take a picture of the denture and some others of the tools.  I have to make an adjustment to the denture first; one edge is a bit hard on my tongue; it works okay but there could be long-term tongue irritation problems.  Hope to post pictures in a few days, maybe sooner.

(About what denture professionals would say about this:) There are many examples of professions and vocations developing blind spots.  One example: Decades ago physicians would bleed their patients to help cure them; now we know that was wrong.  I believe there are many cases where upper dentures would fix well without the pallet, because of improved adhesives and maybe other factors.  But I think denture professionals are blind to that possibility.  Not criticizing them, just trying to understand.

The tool is a Dremel 4000 but other rotary tool models would likely work too.  The cutting was done with the little cutoff wheel that is marked "Plastic."  A little drum with probably a 60 grit sandpaper was used to smooth things.  NOTE THAT IF YOU HAVE PREPAID ADJUSTMENTS COMING, AS WITH AFFORDABLE DENTURES' plans, this cutting might be seen by them as invalidating their obligation.  I'll also try to send pictures of the jig that I rigged to hold the denture in place during cutting.
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Do you think if I removed the palate that a soft liner would still work?
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I don't see whyyy it wouldn't..... I didn't get a softliner the dayyy I got myy palate cut because apparantlyyy I alreadyyy got 2 and I am onlyy aloowed one more before I have to payyy for them but......sure ...it should work. I am loving myyy palate cut. It's sooooooo much better for eating and there's no more gagging on too much plastic. I'm not rushing to take them out after work. I LOVE IT!!
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that service is not cheap either
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I told my dentist about this my dentures give me such a bad headache I can only wear them for 2 hours she is researching this for me can you show pics of your denture, do you still wear the horseshoe one??
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They actually make upper dentures without the palate......they are called Horseshoe Dentures
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I just got my new upper denture a couple hours ago. I am so angry because they are gagging and I cant even speak with them. I want my denture center to cut them back but they say the cant until later. I'm very happy to know some of you all have successfully made adjustments! I will find out how I can get this done. Thank you
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It would be my luck I would cut them wrong and break them
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I fixed the tongue thing and have a camera coming to take pictures (believe it or not, I have no cell phone).  Will post pics soon.  The cutting job was a little tricky and I did have to proceed carefully. 

INSTEAD OF YOURSELF, maybe someone in your circle of friends knows a model rail hobbyist; they are often handy with rotary tools.  Woodworkers and other kinds of hobbyists are also sometimes handy with rotary tools.  I had no experience with rotary tools but I was able to achieve success.  But then too I have always been kind of a general handyman.

I am thinking to contact denture providers with these two suggestions:  (1) Tell patients, "Bring in your palleted upper and we'll make a non-palleted copy for $X; then you take both home and see what works best.  (2) Provide new patients will an option to take home two uppers, one palleted and one not, for an extra charge.
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A question: what is the advantage of cutting denture?
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I removed the center pallet area from my brand new upper denture.  I found it was intolerable.  Now, without the center pallet area, my upper dentures hold fast (with fixodent plus).  My entire mouth is better without the central pallet area of the upper denture.
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wat if u cant get the tool to try to take the pallett off is their like anything elese i would be able to use that might work?
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I wouldn't do that myself.  If you damage your denture, your insurance may not cover to have it fixed.  Fixing or replacing  a denture can be expensive,
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I agree...... I would just go back to the dentist and let them do it. Myyy dentist is doing it for me when I am healed enough.....
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I use dremels everyday in my job. I used my immediate denture to practice on. Then. My acrylic my dentist made that I despised...i made it into a horseshoe as well and it's fabulous. I polished the edges and used a diamond wheel to make it.
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Wow!!! That is sooooo great for youuu!! I am going back to the dentist on Tuesdayyy of next week. I prayyy she does that for me!! I can't stand this plastic either. I'm doing wayyy better with them except for the bottoms alwayyys come loose when eating. I feel like I use a shit-ton of adhesive. The tops are alwayys good but the bottoms always come loose. I'm happyyy for youu Debi.....please pray that Tuesday's visit has me leaving a VERY HAPPY GIRL!!
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Did you try a soft liner like densurefit? I'm anxious to find out. I want to remove the palate ,but wondering whether trying a soft liner would still work to hold the denture in place. I hate the adhesives , so disgusting. I'm hoping someone may have the answer I'm looking for.
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I hate the top palate. I’ve had dentures going on 3 years and I still til this day gag. It’s bothersome and sometimes the glue oozes out and I have a hard time removing it. So gonna try this out on my temps. I have them stored in my freezer
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Try the powder fixodent that's what I use it's much better
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Awesome job Debi Hilley!! Can I send mine to you?!?! Heheh jk but now I am more determined than ever to do mine so I will quit gagging like a maggot all the time! (What a saying! As if maggots can gag!)
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This is a no-login free link to the pictures, in a .pdf file on Google Docs.  A down-arrow icon at upper right can be used to download the .pdf to your hard drive.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0P-9kr85GKNSnlzdFctS0RmakU
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I too DETEST my full palate (NOT spelled pallet, BTW). I've had it for 8 months and it's still horrible. I've lost about 50% of my ability to taste, it feels terribly uncomfortable to have that hunk of plastic stuck in my mouth and I take it out many times a day just to get away from the discomfort and the intrusive feeling I get from it.  When I remove it, it's always covered with thick, gooey spit that has built up on the surface. ICK! I've done a LOT of research on having the center part of the palate removed and everything points me in the direction of getting this done. I've told my prosthodontist I want him to do this procedure and he's very much against it. He says that (1) it will move around in my mouth and (2) food will build up underneath the palate and I'll have to take it out and clean it often throughout the day. But I already remove it a lot just to get some relief from wearing it. I think he's finally ready to give in to my request, though he doesn't really approve. He is an excellent dentist with a specialty in prosthodontics and has a great reputation. I'm confident that when he does remove the center part he will do a very good job and will make every effort to create a good and comfortable fit. He's very proud of his work and has over 40 years experience. He wants to keep the fine reputation he's built up and will do his very best to do so. I admire the people who have taken the DIY route but am too chicken to try it. I just CAN'T WAIT to get this big bulky thing out of my mouth and feel comfortable again! I'll write again after he does the work and give you people a thorough report on the results, both pro and con (if there are any cons). Should be a couple of months before everything's done and I've worn it for awhile).
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Dianne Chambless Mcdowell

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So you have no trouble with them coming loose when you eat? I want to do this but I'm scared too. I am having such a horrible time trying to get used to wearing this top denture. I just don't think I will ever get used to having all this plastic in my mouth.
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They never really did stay in very well.  Eventually I left them out and changed to a soft diet, which is practical for me but not most people.  Then later I got implants and dentures mounted on those.  Those stay in well, but cost a lot, of course.
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stephen - the denture that you cut the centre pallet out of - is that an implant mounted denture?
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Stephen Nelson

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No, it was a regular denture that I cut.

Later I got implant mounted, but never cut the implant mounted.  When I got the implant mounted made I emphasized that I wanted minimum pallet, and they included reinforcing metal in the implant mounted denture, to make sure that it would be strong even though it did not have much pallet.
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Deb Dennis

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In your second post you stated that with Fixodent Plus your cut denture worked "perfectly", yet in your post above you state that never did stay in very well.

Having no pallet would make many denture wearers more comfortable but saying that something works when it does not is irresponsible.

People read these posts for months and even years after they originally posted.
You should retract the statement so that other people don't go in and cut out their denture only to find out that it "never really stays in".
Because I know if I had done that I could not afford to go and get an implant like you did Nor would my health allow me to do so.
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Did your dentist do the horseshoe or did you do it? I have so much trouble with the pallet that I can't stand to wear my teeth. I want to do this but afraid it won't stay tight without the suction.
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Edna Linden

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The suction is what keeps my upper dentures in.  I've had them for nearly two weeks and trying and praying that I get use to the palate.  As I can't stand adhesive,  
Someone told me about Seabound.  I don't know if it works because I have not tried it. Hoping that I can come to a point where I will become accustomed to the palate. God willing.
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Terry Clements

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Fixadent has a powder adhesive and it works way better then the adhesive from a tube, and it doesn't have a nasty taste, I bought it by accident but now that's all I use.
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Mary Wendling

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Awesome. I am still experimenting with what works best for me. I still gotta tryyy the strips and now I want to tryyy the powder.
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Luci Kalinec

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I've had my dentures for 4 years and still have not gotten used to the plastic covering the roof of my mouth...I hate them.
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I use secure denture adhesive. Works great for my top and used to work great on my bottoms but not too much anymore
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Patricia Meyer

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the seabond strips are pretty good if you dont like the paste, I am having my palate cut out next week, the headaches from the top denture are killing me. I am going to have a soft reline at the same time as well
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Dianne Chambless Mcdowell

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I feel the same way. I cut the middle out of my denture as well. I'm just starting to wear it and so far it feels so much better. I actually wore it most of yesterday without feeling like I had a mouth full of hard plastic. We will see.
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I agree with Deb Dennis.  I would remove the post and pictures so others won't try it.  
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Debi Hilley

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I have a horseshoe upper as do many others. Been wearing it for months. Love love love it. I can eat anything. Literally. Anything, except corn on the cobb. Today I was eating starbursts. Yesterday robin's egg candy . No popping. No slipping.
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Debi Hilley

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I had sore throats, constat trouble swallowing and other issues with a full palate. I use poli grip powder adhesive. Its amazing the difference.
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charlid61

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I didn’t know they could be made that way.
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Debi Hilley

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They can, but not everyone's mouth can accomodate them. Mine has a super high palate, so this fits perfectly.
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Christy King

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How do you cut the palate off
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Debi Hilley

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Horsehoe uppers are actually very common overseas and with some old school dentists. If you have an extreme arch or extreme gag reflex this style is preferred. Wont work for everyone perhaps but tgey DO work.
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Debi Hilley

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This video shows me eating with my horseshoe...
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Mary Wendling

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Oh myyyy GOD!!! Debi! You have given me soooooo much hope. I got my dentures a week ago......I went back for one adjustment. She gave me a softliner because I had sooo much pain and she cut the plate back alittle because I was gagging! I can't use adhesives yet because I still have stitches for another couple weeks.....I'm gonna ask her to cut the plate back even more so I can feel the roof of myyy mouth all the wayyy - LIKE YOURS!!!! You don't have implants - do youuuu???? It's just dentures???? I'm PRAYING that it's just dentures and you're using adhesive......
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Debi Hilley

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Just dentures and adhesive.
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Thats amazing Debi.  Your lowers are your real teeth right?  I think that would make all the difference in chewing like that.
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Debi Hilley

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I have 9 lowers. But the plate doesn't loosen. People always say it will loosen and no way it stays in. Yes it does.
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Debi, thank you very much. When I read his initial post I was "hot to try it", let's face it, the thick pallet is awful- then I read on and realized that the other person had been exaggerating his success.. .
You have given me new hope as well! And thank you for the pictures...
How much adhesive do you need to use for that to work? Does the powder cover the whole surface? I read that The cream isn't supposed to be good to use too much (was it zinc?)
Now if I could only get the holes to my sinus fixed I could go back to worrying about the pallet....
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Deb Dennis

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Mary,
My dentist said it was ok to use a small amount of adhesive while I still had stitches. Just a small pea sized bit at the top of the denture-pallet - it made a lot of difference for me while my upper was healing.
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Debi Hilley

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I wet the denture, lightly coat with powder, wet my mouth and insert. I have to redo it sometimes mid afternoon. I can handle that. I can literally eat anything. I think sometimes too much palate is taken out and that can be an issue, but if you notice, the front is wider than the sides. That sits in my mouth nicely. This is not an uncommon demture style in other countries. With my palatial tory, small mouth and denture.. well. If it wasn't for the horsehoe Id be withoit dentures.
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This sounds great , I am only on my 10th day and cant stand the pain but even worse the last couple days Ive been gaging while wearing them and i cant eat anything with them . I am going to the lab tomorro for an adjustment and I will ask about this for sure .... thanks for the info :) 
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I love the powder as well. I would rather reapply then deal with the paste.
When I tried the paste I was only able to place a small amount on the top pallet only because my extraction sites were still healing. It locked down the denture right in the middle but it would rock if I tried to eat and then the damn thing was stuck forever and it took all day to get it out to make it feel more comfortable plus I always had a sore throat from it.
I actually found a video that shows a way to use the paste and make it more secure. You can search Funk dentures on YouTube. I was seriously impressed and had not seen that process before and I’ve heard it’s quite successful. I am just happy with my powder and the process I’ve been using for the last week makes it even better.
After I wet the denture and apply the powder. I shake off the excess into a little Tupperware bowl. Then spray on top of powder already applied and sprinkle more. I repeat this process a few times and then swish with water before I place the denture in. It seems to be a nice slow build up of product and will last most of the day now.
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Thank you for your true self showing video... I have a full upper and can't stand it as I am no longer speaking correctly which is terrible as I am a Director of Sales  and always speaking. Because of your video I was able to hear your voice and how lovely your words came out. I have a dentist appointment tomorrow & going to have the palate removed. 
Thank you for your honest thought out video.. 
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I just opened up the palate on my dentures today. You can read about it https://www.facebook.com/groups/1669189236446247/      or youtube. https://www.youtube.com/upload    Short story is it works exceptionally well and I only use a bit of Fixodent powder.  I will be converting my other sets of dentures soon.
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Mary Wendling

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Deb Dennis......I actuallyyy tried some adhesive this weekend when I was out with friends. I was happyyy. I chose what I ate carefullyyy but it was good with what I ate.  My dentist said that she will give me the horseshoe denture in a few weeks - I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!
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Debi Hilley

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Any updates??
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Mary Wendling

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I am leaving for the dentist NOW!!! PLEASE sayyy a prayer that she cuts this for me TODAY!! It's been exactlyyy 9 weeks!! I want it cut!! I need it cut!! I will be on later!!!
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Mary Wendling

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She did it!!!! She gave me a horseshoe palate and I LOVE IT!!! It's just sooooooo much less in myy mouth!! It's GREAT to feel the roof again!! It feels different. I need to get used to a different feeling all over again but it's better!! They, of course, don't have the suction and so the tightness is gone......they feel like they may fall out but they aren't. They are in with adhesive which yessss - I must use all the time now. They will not stay in up top at all now without it but it is soooooo worth it!! I think I will be good with this......I reallyyy do.....gotta try eating but I can tell you that even drinking water is BETTER now!!!!!
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Mary Wendling

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Wow.....4 hours later and these things are falling out! I had afternoon coffee and had to reapply adhesive because they instantlyyy became loose....2 hours after that and I couldn't even talk right because they were falling out. I need better adhesive I guess?? I just watched the video of you eating again and oh myyy god....I'm jealous. I love that it's cut out but....it's gotta stay in!!! What do you use Debi??
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Mary Wendling

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Oh.....and I asked todayyy about my permanents....she said April!! NEXT YEAR!! I had this done March 13th - exactlyyy 9 weeks ago....  I thought it was 6 to 8 months?? Is that myy problem?? Will myyy permanents with the horseshoe upper be better???
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Part of the reason bottom dentures don't stay in is because there is nothing to keep them in.  The upper palate causes suction that keeps the upper in.  Removing that palate takes away the suction that hold the upper.  I don't think it will be better with the permanents.  Try Olivafix.  It's expensive but it may help keep them in.  
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Debi Hilley

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Well. I've been wearing mine for months now. I would not go back to full palate. Yes I need adhesive but I can eat ANYTHING I want to.
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Debi Hilley

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I use poligrip powder. And there's enough palate to give you suction to talk and drink, just not eat.
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Debi Hilley

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Been in 24 hours using poligrip.
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Diane Hill

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Does the powder remain in you mouth when you remove your denture ?
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Hi Deb H...., I am getting a complete upper and partial lower,.they wanted to yank all the lowers out so I got a second opinion and they are doing the partial lower which is what I wanted to begin with but they are predominantly on one side,..I dont know how this is all going to end up but will see,..I only have 4 more to be pulled top at this point and have been walking around like this for over a year since all the others were pulled hoping the healing time to be less since for the immediate uppers nyway thats my story,..I also have a high palate,..
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I'm in the exact senario as you 4 upper teeth getting pulled this week and a partial on the bottom . I'm scared... terrified. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated ty in advance
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I think it's great that you found something to work for you <3 I would however not be so quick to suggest it to others because if it doesn't and they ruin the denture or damage it extensively it will probably no longer be covered under any warranty or may not even be able to be fixed leaving them needing a whole new denture entirely. Not everyones mouth will be able to accomodate it. Small adjustments like if there's a small bump pushing in causing pain when you can't get into see the dentist with a dremel or very fine sand paper is completely different than actually attempting to change the shape of your denture. While most say they won't do the horseshoe because you lose suction. There are still some that would be willing to do it for you as long as they make sure you are aware of the risks and the new issues it may bring. I imagine they'd have you sign something stating that you are aware of everything and giving up the right to have them make a new denture at no cost if for some reason you find it indeed does not work for you. I agree you don't necessarily need implants though. I have an extremely severe gag reflex. There are even certain textures of foods I can't eat because it triggers it. I honestly couldn't even put my denture in my mouth without violently throwing up. I thought my only option was going to be either just going toothless or somehow figuring out how to pay for implants and neither of those choices were viable. So I asked my denturist if horseshoeing was an option. He too was worried about the suction capabilities being lost. I was dead set that there was absolutely no other option than to have sofmething without a pallet but shockingly the gagging wasn't happening because the pallet was the issue. I was gagging because I was literally choking on my own tongue. It needed to be tweaked on the bottom to give my tongue more room to talk and eat. He also did smoothe out the back so my tongue was less likely to feel it as I kept feeling it on the back of the tongue. I guess I hold my tongue in a weird way. My point is, yes it may feel like you have no other options. And that may very well be true, maybe that is the only way that will work. But I gotta tell ya, I wish I had thought of this all sooner. I haven't had a single issue with gagging since from my dentures. I have suction on the bottom holding it so tightly you'd swear there were implants underneath them holding them secure. Please try other options before you go to this solution. I say this as someone that wishes someone had said the same to me so I could have been less focused on gagging and more focussed on coming up with a solution to make it stop. I know I couldn't afford another set if something happened, and some people can't wear adhesives. Some people don't know they can't use adhesives. It would be devastating to find out after you've done this and then be stuck with something you can't use without the means to buy something to replace them. I'm not telling people not to do this, I'm just saying look into what your options truly are, it may not even be what you think is wrong which is why you haven't found a solution yet. Ask questions, Be proactive and fight for your own health and well being, not only just for the issues that need corrected right now but the future as well. I see so many people on youtube doing major adjustments on their own and the problem is that people watch these and assume that this is so easy to do on their own, or that this works for everyone. No two mouths are the same. If you are really deadset on the idea by all means. Speak to your dentist and see what he can do. Or even check out Jo's dentures, they do horseshoe uppers by request I believe and it's a whole lot cheaper than throwing thousands of dollars out the window because you thought you could do it on your own and regardless there is no guarantee that if you do it will be successful, just my two cents, take it for what it's worth. 
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I agree.  A good dentist will explore all options and explain the ups and downs before putting your denture at risk. Anything  you do yourself (including having someone else alter it) will void any warranty.  
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I had my lower teeth pulled a year ago and went through the whole works like everyone does. I did my own relines which I got from the local supermarket and they last a few months. I also use adhesive (polligrip) and I am used to the taste plus I don't use all that much. If you are careful to use just a little and use your finger to cover all the areas instead of just squirting out lines as they show you I find it holds much better and doesn't squirt out the edges for you to eat. I will be trying one of the newer non petroleum or whatever types that are not supposed to disolve the first time you drink something. I should also say that I have fairly good bone structure and do not require new bone.

Now this year I had the uppers pulled and after two weeks I still could not eat, barely could talk and actually would start to gag after an hour. It hurt to eat and the pain was half because of the pallet pushing on the roof of my mouth. Yes I did go in and have them cut it a bit because at first I could not wear it at all without gagging.

Now after reading this list I decided to cut the pallet out with a dremmel. I am fully aware that I could lose strength and support. I know that the pallet section gives suction though it did not help me much at two weeks as the swelling was down a lot and I can see a reline coming soon. I decided that if I destroyed the thing I would just cough up the extra cash for a new one cause anything is better than nothing. I just cannot do the pallet cover.

I know how to use one but they are really easy to use anyway. I cut only the middle inch and did not go all the way to the front. I took example from the picture someone posted here. It didn't look like much but in your mouth everything tiny seems huge. Anyway, it worked fine for me. I can eat and talk and all pain is gone. For the moment I have better suction than I did before but as I said I use glue and I did so before trying to eat and it was as solid as the bottom. I know they will not come out tonight.

I realize this may not be for everyone. I realize that I will likely always use glue and may even need to use it more often. I also realize that my mouth is now comfortable, no pain and I can talk normal aside from an annoying whistle on my Sss. Doing relines is a pain but soon I will do a hard reline and it will be easier. In the end a little maint on my part is a small price to pay for a full set of teeth. I may also cut a little bit more out but time will tell.

I will leave you with some possible good advice. I got my dentures from a reputable place that specializes in them for $1500 each. I could have got them for $800 each through my plan but wasn't sure of the quality. Probably there are much cheaper out there. What I did NOT do was let them pull my teeth. I got a "dental plan" off the net (just do a search) and pay $15 a month for a list of a hundred or so dentists in my area that use this discount plan. Regular pulls were $80 and surgical were $110. That was half of what it costs anywhere else here in Alaska. So I could have saved more on dentures I suppose but I saved about $2000 in extractions. $6000 roughly for all.

Still, by all means discuss this with your dentist as there may be some that will help you and I know money is tight for most people. I have always been a diy kind of guy and am willing to take the risk instead of arguing with the dentist and going in multiple times as they cut off a centimeter. I also have a healthy credit card.
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Thank you. It is very comforting knowing I'm not the only one who has difficulty with the full pallet. I get discouraged when the denture techs keep saying you have to get used to it. I cannot, as I gag, cant speak or eat. I will definitely be pushy to get adjustments I need.
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Donna,

I hate to give you bad news but I've had my dentures for 4 years and still can't speak right.  I would love to know what to do but my dentist just doesn't understand.  He's very nice but not sure he gets what is going on in my mouth.  I would love to just correctly again.  It's so embarrasing!!!  Any suggestions out there???
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Cracked denture
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pauline aragon

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Will an upper denture crack if you have missing lower teeth?
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eleanorlebrecht .

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If your upper denture is made well it should not  be affected.
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Patricia Meyer

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Mary Wendling any update on your horse shoe denture journey???
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I just horseshoed 2 of my set of dentures and it is fantastic.
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Patricia Meyer

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I spent 6 months without teeth, because of crappy dentures and bone spurs, I finally got dentures that fit 2 months ago and I have done nothing but struggle, cant eat, cant stand the back of the denture touching the roof of my mouth, after 5 hours they gotta come out, I finally took out my dremel and horseshoed my palate, OMG the last two days I have been able to wear them for most of the day 9-10 hours and I was able to eat, I cut everything up very small, but I DID IT FINALLY!!! Maybe there is hope after all, since september when I had the extractions this has been a nitemare. I am using a paste and the fixodent powder and the top hasnt moved a bit, my bottom teeth I did have to reapply product half way thru the day, I can deal with that. I FEEL HUMAN AGAIN what an amazing difference.
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Yes, it is amazing isn't it?  Many of the members in Do Your Own Dentures Fb group have  removed the upper palate.
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I honestly think if I didnt do that I would never be able to eat with them or wear them long term, I still get another set in 4 months they should be thinner and have better quality teeth so I will be doing the same with them and hope to be eating everything I love, which isnt much so this has been really hard Im down to 95 pounds , so eating the last 2 days has been awesome. Just take a little at a time and then I bought the do it yourself reline kit for $6 at walmart used 1 on both upper and lower so they have a slight liner .
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Ask for a horseshoe upper to begin with. My current one was made that way by affordable dentures. If you are successfully wearing it they should not argue.
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I went there, they wouldnt make me a pair, I did have a pair of their cheapest dentures made though and practiced on them first , so I actually have 2 sets now and will soon have the third I can horse shoe. Cause I have them for affordable, my immediates that I just got at 6 months cause of issues, and I will be getting my permanents in a few months, so Im just hopeful that even though I had to do it myself its working . FINALLY I WANT A PASTRAMI SANDWICH SO BAD LOL
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Debi Hilley

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I get it at first but if you are ALREADY successful with one you stand a better chance they will. I'd try again. The way the professionals polish them is amazing
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Patricia Meyer

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I have a polisher with my dremel so mine are super smooth, they feel great and Im actually looking forward to wearing them, the final set I will get my insurance pays for and the dentist does not have an in house lab, I doubt very much they will be able to make a horseshoe upper but again knowing I can do it myself, and now knowing how much I need to take off for it to be comfortable and still hold, I am confident I can do it myself.
FINALLY TEETH!!!! 6 months wearing a mask everywhere, and telling people I have a cold was getting really old. And embarassing.
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I'm trying to get my dentist to replace the pallet of my upper denture. It's been a rough 18 months and I still can't stand the feeling of the mouthful of plastic in the back of my mouth. The gagging and wanting to vomit, yawning and the constant pain but my dentist says that there's nothing wrong with the denture? Like..umm.. are there any dentists in nsw Australia that do a horseshoe denture? That's what I was wanting right from the start..
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You can do that yourself. Search you tube and there is a group. Do your own Dentures on Facebook for more info. I like the palate out of mine.
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It would be wonderful if the rich would join this group and have raffles for one lucky person to get implants. Hopefully more would join.
That would be a life changer to someone lucky.
We would all be happy if you joined us. It would be like playing Bingo. Please join us.
You would make a difference in someone’s life and we would all raffle in to see who won.
This would be so exciting. If you know someone, pass the word!! Life is a journey;)