Ultrasonic cleaner!! Baking soda tablets!!

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Thanks so very much for those of you who talked about using an ultrasonic cleaner to clean your dentures. I have one sitting that I've never used for anything. After I bought it for work I decided it was going to take too long to clean blades so I put it up just in case I needed it.

I have been using Secure and I read here about using Dollar General cleansing tablets with baking soda and it works! I dissolve the tablet in warm water in my ultrasonic cleaner and run for 5 minutes. Then I brush lightly to remove the adhesive, which at this point looks like gel and is completely loose from my denture. Rinse. Run 5 more minutes.

Done. No peeling the Secure off. No scraping. No brushing. Done.

My dentist was so impressed he asked me to write it down to hand out to new denture wearers (he knows I am a writer :)). So tickled!

Thanks guys!!!
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1Spicy!

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That is awesome news!  I'm glad it worked for you.  However, shouldn't your dentist be ashamed that he/she did not make dentures for you that you don't have to use adhesive?
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Debi Hilley

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Well, since I am 4.5 months post extraction, no. They shouldn't. Plus not everyone's mouth is conducive to creating adequate suction. I have bumpy gums and drymouth. :)
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I use baking soda in warm water. It takes us a little brushing with a denture brush and the adhesive comes right off. And I don’t use an ultrasonic cleaner. Just a coffee cup
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Literally no work here. None. The tablets are $1.50 for 40. So totally affordable.
Use my tip if it helps. Discard if it doesn't. ;)
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Debi, I follow a similar process to both of you.  I soak mine in a cup of warm water with baking soda until the Secure puffs up into gel.  Brush it off, then do a 5 minute bath in the ultrasonic cleaner.  I think however you do it - hooray for us!  It works!
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I would like to know what this secure is and where you get it? Is it any better than Fixodent or Poligrip?
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Debi Hilley

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It's a waterproof adhesive nkt generally available in retail here in the USA. I got it on Amazon. It works great for me.
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I also use Secure and I have also tried OlivaFix...both work great...OlivaFix is a little pricey. Secure is my go to adhesive.  It oozes less and you use less.
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I buy Secure on Amazon. My only complaint, as the day goes by, I feel a grainy substance in my mouth. This is especially irritating to me as I cough easily from the slightest irritation. Si OlivaFix works out best for me.
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And I get mine at VitaCost - and I love Secure adhesive.  Lasts all day.
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I found the secure to swell up after a while.  It really freaked me out when I first got dentures, well a couple of weeks after, because I already had monkey mouth (which horrified me) and the swollen secure made it much worse.  At least with the fixodent type products you can press and smash everything back up but not with secure, it's not really smashable.  I haven't used it in quite a while.  You all have given me the desire to try it again.  I had my e-day in March or April of this year and it was rough going for me!  It's much better now.  Can't wait for some sort of permanents that fit well and look decent.
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Can someone tell me what Olivia fix is?
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It's sold on Amazon.  It's an extremely overprice denture fixative that is probably made in someone's garage.  Like Russel Klein's dentures; even though that is not his real name.
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What happened to my comment?
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1Spicy!

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Can my comments just be deleted without notification?
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To everyone on this forum, my comment was deleted.  It was perfectly fine to comment on the fact that OlivaFix is a homemade product, as many are these days in the denture industry since it is so unregulated.  Does someone have a problem with the truth or someone else's experience?  It's not fair to only leave comments that sustain and back someone else's opinion and go ahead and delete others opinions that don't agree with yours.  It's called bias.  So, this site is biased because your comments can be deleted!
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I don't know, Spicy, but I'm glad you got this one posted!  I hadn't heard of homemade adhesive before... I'll certainly research that!
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Hi Spicy, Do you have any issues if someone is making something out of their garage? I'm just curious as to your reason of mentioning it? Was your intent to warn us of something?
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Debi Hilley commented on a reply to this praise:Ultrasonic cleaner!! Baking soda tablets!!
Wow... attitude much????
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This is what I received in my email that is now gone from these posts.  Obviously people only want comments that back their beliefs and anyone else's comments can be deleted.
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I didnt delete it. You have jad 2 snarky posts on response to me posting this thread. The one anout my dentist and thst one. Maybe the mods didnt like it. Shrug. I didnt do it.
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DentureLivingThis reply has been removed by DentureLiving:
It's sold on Amazon.  It's an extremely overprice denture fixative that is probably made in someone's garage.  Like Russel Klein's dentures; even though that is not his real name.
Replies can be removed by community moderators if they contain inappropriate content or private information.
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AND, it turns out they don't even need a reason, they will just remove your post.  My post was perfectly fine!  Be warned, your participation here is based on your agreement with the original post.  If fixodent moderators actually looked up the product, they can see that it is made in someone's garage!  So are Russell Klein's dentures!  
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Idk about olivafix I've never tried but all I've heard about it is amazing. Same for Russel Klein and everything I've seen read and heard about Russel's dentures has been awesome. Idk why sum ppl feel the need to bad mouth things that other ppl may like and find useful. And imo it seems as if Russel might actually care about how dentures may affect ppls lives and tries to make the best products at very reasonable prices. As for me my denture fits pretty great but if it didn't I wouldn't care if he made dentures in his garage or up in a tree if they fit looked good and we're affordable. Let's just try being nice to each other. We r all looking for and trying anything and everything that might or might not work.
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Well said Melanie.. Kudos to you. I agree. Everyone here is posting what did or didn't work for them. You gather the info and make a decision as to whether you want to try the suggestion or not. No need to bad mouth anyone or thing. And like you , I don't care where it is made or what name they choose to use as long as it works for me.
If 10 people out of 12 say their experience was awesome with Russel Klein then I'm going to assume 1 of 2 things. Either he is dang good or all those people are lying. My logical choice would be to go with #1. That's the end of my 2 cents . Hope everyone has a wonderful, pain free, peaceful & blessed weekend
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There's enough ill will in the world - I don't need to add any to the surplus.

We do our own due diligence, buy what we buy, like what we like, and if we get a product that's not working great for us personally - we either live with it or find an alternative.  And all of that is called "life" - it's one big classroom.

What I bought (partial denture) was from a traditional lab made with traditional acrylic and the process was completed in a traditional dentist's office.  The end result didn't work for me so I've done my due diligence. I've decided to buy a product that is not traditional, nor is it made in a traditional way, nor is the process conducted in a traditional dentist's office. 

Same with denture adhesives.  I tried a number of the "traditional" ones and learned, in the end, that I didn't like them.  In essence, I purchased experiences that taught me lessons.  No ill will required - we can like something somebody else doesn't.  We can like different products and still like each other.

Somewhere along the line, a message was embedded into the minds of many people that disagreeing with their viewpoint equals hate.  It doesn't.  We don't need to all agree on everything - and we can disagree without being disagreeable. 

:-)
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So, I dont like the fact that Dentists are making dentures that don't fit. It's not badmouthing anyone, they are supposed to fit. I don't know why anyone would take personally anything their dentist did. You're post reminded me of when I had to use glues. I mean, there is a huge industry of companies making billions of dollars because of it. That isnt snarky. Well, if the truth is snarky to you, then it is, I can't speak for you. And, no I'm not putting anything in my mouth that isn't inspected or regulated, made in someone's garage. You feel free to!
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My immediate denture hurt. Didnt fit. Made by a dentist. He inspected my RK denture. Said he knows the mans work. Impeccable was the word used to describe it. I know several techs who make dentures at their kitchen tables for dentists. I dont care as long as it fits. I cleaned it. Wear it. Eat whatever I want with it. It works. Better it works than it doesn't. And it may not be his real name but you aren't using yours either.
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Bazinga!!!! Good 1 Debi!!! Lol. I'm same as u if it works fits and looks good I don't care where it's made it if his name is Frankenstein lol
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And again,1spicy, You are really being snippy. I deal with a 10,000 member ,incredibly active FB group as a moderator. I knkw when people are just being difficult. You may be one of those people I deal with. I don't know because you hide behind a moniker. But. The old addage "if you can't say something nice"...well I am taking my own advice. I came here to try to help people. You dont like my advice. This forum doesn't have a block or ignore feature. Sadly.
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Ok, well this has gotten way out of hand.  So, I comment on people doing work with no license and no oversight and your response is to call me names and feel sad that you can't block me?  I cannot conceive of someone who's personality is so fraught with an obvious lack of self-esteem hovering over a 10k member facebook page!  
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Spicy, I'm not calling you any names - I just don't understand why you would besmirch the character of a denturist who is obviously doing good work and helping people.  I'm not a libertarian, but I do believe too much regulation hurts us all.

As for the denture cream - please don't be mad because nobody is upset about where the product started.  Apple computers started in the garage, as did Microsoft.  Not long ago, a secretary needed something that would make her job easier.  Her innovation - started in a garage - created white-out.  Heck, the airplane began in a bicycle shop! 

If many people have used the product with good result, why knock it?  Find what you like and let the garage-born products fly or fall as they may.  The one thing we can all count on is that if a product causes harm or injury, the maker of the product will be sued to the gills.

Be well,
Schelly
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Oh, no, I wasn't responding to you.  You have been absolutely helpful and I appreciate your comments!  You must be the voice of reason to people in your life and I'm sure they appreciate you as well.  I thought it was fine when RK was charging $250 but now he's up to $1,000 for just the uppers.  As much as I would pay $10 if I desperately need a tire in the middle of no-where, as soon as they wanted to charge me 4x the price I would be looking for the nearest Firestone.  That's all I meant.  I'm a diy'er myself and appreciate the value of a home-made pineapple upside down cake!
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There is only one of Russell and so many of us, this doesn't surprise me.

Taken directly from Investopedia, this explains very well the price hike you describe:

The law of supply and demand is the theory explaining the interaction between the supply of a resource and the demand for that resource. The law of supply and demand defines the effect the availability of a particular product and the desire (or demand) for that product has on price. Generally, a low supply and a high demand increases price, and in contrast, the greater the supply and the lower the demand, the lower the price tends to fall.

It's nothing personally, really.  It only stands to reason that if RK is to be able to meet the demand for his product, he will either have to clone himself with all of his skill and knowledge intact, or he will have to raise prices so that demand decreases to the point that he can keep up with it.

I hope that helps take the sting out of it in some small way.  I know, it still puts the denture out of ready reach for some.  But we're an inventive species and can find ways to raise the funds we need to buy what we perceive to be the best.  Many local churches have outreach ministries that help with such things...

Blessings to you,
Schelly
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Literally 4 weeks ago I paid $450 for the top of the line upper denture from him so I don't know where you're getting $1000 from.
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I understand supply and demand but jumping from $450. to $1000. seems unbelievable.
Wow! Shelly weren't you checking into it for yourself? Did you get any prices?
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It is unbelievable and it's not true. I asked him directly. No change in prices.

Russell Klein from denturestore sent you a conversation on November 12, 2017.
Hi, not sure who you spoke with but my prices are the same lol
Russel
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Yes Pamela, thank you for asking.  I did get a price and for a top-of-the-line flexible partial (all molars and pre-molars) will be under $500.  I'm not sure where she got a price of $1K at all.

In my experience, I paid $850 cash for the awful piece of acrylic that my dentist put in my mouth on e-Day.  She wanted me to "save my insurance for the permanent because it will be more expensive."  I'm going to tell her not to worry about ordering my permanent via insurance because I can get two RK top-of-the-line partials for just over the cost of the horrible immediate I got from her lab.

I'm sure there must be mitigating factors we're not aware of regarding Spicy's remarks - but the fact is, for the quality of RK's product, I'd rather pay him to get it right than to trust any lab that would make this horrid of a product such as the one I have to wear right now and refuse to stand behind their work.

I made the supply-and-demand remarks because it's wise to realize there is only one of RK and many of us.
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Yeah I don't really understand the problem here. I paid $450 for my upper plate from him and then I did pay express shipping both ways so it was another $100 I think to get my impression plate expressed back to him, the wax to me, the wax back to him, and then the plate to me but that was my choice because I needed it now LOL And if you look above I posted the message Russell sent me back when I asked him yesterday. He thinks it's kind of funny that somebody would say he was raising his prices.
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Debi I just wrote to Russell myself. I'm a bit confused. On his site it shows $100. & $200. for upper dentures. The 200. are ultra's . Then $50. for the impression kit. I'm wondering why it cost you $450. I'm sure I must have missed something? Thanks, Pam
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The ones on his site arent custom...they are premade. Custom costs more.
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Gotcha! Thanks!
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So the $450 covers everything?  Wax trying in, shipping, adjustments...etc?  
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Yes. Wax tryin, denture. Impression kit was $50.. I have had zero issues. No adjustments. Priority shipping included. I paid for express shipping.
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If I remember correctly, the wax try-in is included on the top grade "Ultra Thin" denture.  There may be a charge for wax try-ins for acrylic, but I don't know for sure what it is. The best bet is to message him on his Etsy shop and ask him.  :-) 

What I do know is that people who go for even the acrylic remark about how much lighter and better fitting RK dentures are to any others they've had.  The acrylic cost  less than the Ultra Light.

He's really nice - he won't mind your emailing him to learn more.
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I just heard from RK. For a custom upper ultra thin denture will be $300. The tray kit another $50. So if I don't want super white teeth or fast shipping, etc. my total would be $350. all said and done. Not bad at all. I hope he is still alive and well at my 6 mo. end of healing time in April.
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I didnt wait. I couldnt. But I ordered them knowing more was going to have to be done., or another made. Getting a reline as we speak. Lol
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