When I get my permanent dentures will they be better then the immediate. Ones?

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It's going on 5 months that I had my teeth pulled and immediate dentures. I still can't eat crap. I live on pasta, scrambled eggs and mashed potatoes. I can chew anything. I've tried but I think the teeth are crap. In about 5 weeks I go in to get my permanent ones. And they are suppose to be the top of the line. I just hope and pray that I will be able to eat again. I've lost over 30 lbs so far. It is so depressing. Went to county fairs and couldn't eat. My birthday is coming up in October. Sure would be nice to go out for a nice dinner with my man. Just really regretting all this. I wish I would of had a second opinion. I wonder if there was something that could have been done besides pulling them all. Grrr. Very frustrated and depressed.
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If you are months and or years into it and cannot eat you really need to speak with your dentist and get adjustments and relines to get yourselves sorted. 

I would not have someone make my permanent that could not get the temporary functioning.  The temporary is a test run.  If they are unable to provide you with a temporary that functions after adjustments and relines chances are slim to none they will be able to do so with a permanent. 

This process takes a tremendous amount of communication to get things worked out.  When things aren't working and you have communicated with the dentist to the best of your ability it may be time to consult with someone else, provided your were clear and concise and gave it your all to get perfection.  If you have not been clear, concise and made your best efforts it may not be the fault of the dentist that your dentures are not fitting and functioning properly.

Best of luck and I do hope you get things sorted.  There are a ton of videos on youtube that show how people navigated obstacles they had with their dentures/dentists during their journeys - it may be worth your time to see if you find someone who has similar problems to yours to see how they got found resolve.
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Barbara G

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Pain is pain and u should not accept it. You deserve better
Go back to the dentist
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Eva Moore

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Yes, keep going back til you get some satisfaction. You paid for a service and you should be satisfied.
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It's been five weeks since I had my remaining 16 teeth pulled.  I had so many teeth broken off that I had been gluing in with crazy glue for a year, I decided this would be the best option.  I also wish I had gotten a second opinion to try to save the teeth I had left, I would do anything to get those bad real teeth back.  Not all my teeth were bad, the molars were healthy, but everything was pulled.  That itself was nightmarish.  Looking back it was no different than an amputation. My toothless mouth looks hideous, I won't let my husband see me without my dentures in, and I'm not a vain person!  I couldn't even look inside my mouth for two weeks after the extractions.  I still have a hard time. But I have my immediate dentures. I am slowly getting use to talking and chewing.  Chewing will never be comfortable because the pressure on the bone and gum from the denture.  They've gotten very loose since the swelling has gone down.  I'm learning to use the paste effectively.  I find putting one layer in, wearing them for about a half hour, then remove and put another thin layer of paste on makes them very secure for longer.  I hate when my food slides under my upper palate while I'm eating, and my lower is always the first to come loose.  If even something as small as a blueberry seed gets under my dentures it is agony!  I am looking forward to getting my premium permanents, but I am even trying to figure out a way to get implants if possible.  I would really like to eat and talk normally again.  Good luck to all of you!  BTW, I really had to force myself to wear them all the time, never taking them out except to clean.  That is the only way to get use to them.  And it's not like it's normal, you just adapt.
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Hi  upndnglo

You said  " I am even trying to figure out a way to get implants if possible.  I would really like to eat and talk" 
I am a big proponent of implant,  I have permanent implants and I love them and they are just Like having  my original  teeth.
The least expensive implant systems  are over denture or clip on dentures and if cost is an issue you should start there.  Look it up on the internet

If a Dental college is near  you I would recommend getting a consultation there
Let us know how you are progressing
Good luck
Barbara
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Can I ask how many implants you have? Do they connect to a denture or are they individual teeth? How many are needed to secure lowers vs uppers? 
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I hope everyone making your dentist your best friend.  You can go back as much as you need for adjustments,  If you can't eat after 5 months you really should have a sit down with your dentist.  I am 3 months since my extractions/immediates and at week 5 I was back eating regular foods.  Still haven't mastered biting an apple but no trouble with chicken, meat, grapes, salads,etc.  If you think you are bothering the dentist you're not.  Now if they make you feel that way, then you probably need to see someone else.  Remember, they don't know you're having a problem unless you tell them. 
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It's been almost 2 months for me and I have to even cut a grape in half to eat it.
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Barbara G

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Go back to the dentist. Insist on having him help you
You PSID good money to him
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upndnglo

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Indeed!  $$$!
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Exactly.  My dental office told me, when I went in for my first reline, that if I had problems, just show up, no appointment needed.  I won't do that, though, but the gesture was very welcome.
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Mine said the same thing. Oddly, it’s taken 3 tries to actually get in. My lower partial feels like a torture device. And I know the bite is off. I can’t bite through jello right now. Hopefully that will be fixed in the morning.
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Hey Marcia, I am a lab tech who makes dentures full time, and can tell from an insider perspective that there is light in the end of the tunnel. Permanent dentures should always be better than immediate ones precisely because of the fact that your gums's and bone's shrinkage slows down significantly which allows for more space to work with and also because of a better impressions that can be taken. Given your lab tech and doctor do a good job, you should get a much better denture.

One thing you should take advantage of is to take all the time necessary during your try-in appointment to make sure you love your teeth, since that's what you could not have had for your immediate dentures. I talk more about some important qualities a good denture must have at my Dentures Las Vegas website, but basically you are looking for a good balance between looks and functionality. Good luck!
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My bottom denture kept coming loose too when I ate and the dentist told me to use a little powder adhesive and a little regular adhesive to hold them in place. She did tell me that I would have to reapply adhesive during the day and recommends inplants for the bottom which I can't afford.
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Implants are the solution to bottom dentures
Pretend you are buying a Car and finance them
Get a refund from your dentist for the denture that does not work and put it toward the implants
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With dentures, there will be bone loss over time and your facial structure will change. How mean that anyone would make fun!  Implants are the only way to avoid much of that bone loss.  I will be trying to get implants eventually.
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I got implants in my bottom jaw. I could not wear the lower denture at all. It cost a fortune but I thank God we could afford it. I truly feel bad for all the people out there who can’t.
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R u serious? Do u have dentures
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Though the dental professional(s) that do the work have a large bearing on the final outcome, the answer to your question is yes, your permanent dentures should be far superior to your immediate (aka temporary dentures).  Your bones and gums are going through a tremendous healing process, and there will be a lot of change during the first three to six months.  With both my partials and full dentures, the immediate ones never really fit worth squat.  Think of them as "training wheels".  Relines will help with the fit to some degree, but until you are healed, you will likely always struggle with fit and/or comfort.

As far as your permanent dentures, they should fit far better than your immediate/temporary set.  The quality of fit also depends on the dentist you are seeing, and the type of denture you choose.  I highly recommend a set that includes a wax try-in.  This allows you to see what you final teeth will look like, and allows your dental team to ensure the best possible fit.  If your set is an economy one, it may not include a wax try-in, but they still should fit far better than your immediate/temporary dentures.

I just received my permanent dentures a few days ago, and the difference is like night and day compared to my immediate set.  My permanent set fits very well, and stay in even without adhesive (though I do need to use adhesive on the lower plate when I eat).  They look great and feel quite comfortable (though yes, I notice they are there).  I have no issues eating, though I'm having to learn to enunciate some words a bit differently as they do have a slightly different feel.

As Barbara and others have said, don't let yourself get railroaded by a bad dentist.  You are the client, the dentist works for you.  If you aren't happy, don't take "just deal with it" or anything else as an answer.  The more of a thorn in the side you become, the more likely the dentist will comply.  Personally, I don't like having to be aggressive unless necessary, as I can be very hostile and intimidating, and it isn't who I want to be.

Having stated that, when I need to be that way, I don't hesitate.  I had some issues with the prior dentist that made my partials.  After discussing my concerns with him and being ignored, I went over his head and contacted the company that owned the chain he worked for.  I had gathered a list of complaints from other patients, and stated how poorly the dentist's work reflected on the company.  The one thing no dental practice wants is a bad reputation, and within a couple of weeks, the cost of my partials was refunded.

Though the refund did not include the extractions, I had enough returned that I could begin saving for a new set.  Don't give up, everyone has a weakness and a breaking point, it is only necessary to find it.  We all stand behind you!

David
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Despite the fact I don't really like having my picture taken and I am not exactly talented at selfies, I opted to take a close-up picture of my permanent dentures in place.  As you can see, they fit very well, and look like natural teeth.  Even the gum line is contoured to appear natural.  Keep in mind I'm intentionally opening my mouth wider to provide a better view, I don't naturally smile like a psychopath.

Of course, with my mouth open this wide and being so close, it might be evident they are dentures.  However, they are indistinguishable from real teeth from a normal distance while eating, speaking, or smiling.  Compared to my immediate/temporary dentures, there is a huge difference in both fit and appearance!  This is not the kind of picture I would have been willing to take with my temporary set, so in the end you should be pleased with you permanent ones!

David

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I totally get that part about smiling. I never was a smiler and even showing my teeth now is very difficult.
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David, they look great! Congratulations and keep on smiling!
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David Hahn
David your teeth look great
Totally natural
Not one negative
Barbara
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I'm sorry to hear that rod, the first month with temporary dentures was very difficult for me as well.  I had a lot of swelling, so much I was put on an anti-inflammatory steroid twice until it finally subsided.  Hang in there, it will improve!
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Thanks David I appreciate you contacting me back
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Sure rod!  I completely understand, and want to help anyway I can.  Temporary dentures are a rough ride, especially that first month.  Just be sure to go back to the dentist for any sore spots you get.  I'm on week 2 of my permanents and I have one of those on the top right.  Just a little one, but it will get worse if not addressed.

Try Ibuprofen for the swelling, and if that doesn't help, check with your dentist.  Some people are more prone to it depending on a lot of factors.  For me, the first month I looked like a chipmunk/horse with my temps in due to all the swelling.  However I'd say by the third week I noticed the worst of the pain subsiding.  I used to joke with my father and do the Mr. Ed.."Wilbuuurr" imitation.  A sense of humor helps.

Often dentists don't prepare us for just how rough it really is going to be.  If I'm right, you are on day 8, one day over a week.  By 14 days you should notice a lot of the swelling is gone.  By three weeks, you should be able to start eating soft foods (my first challenge was mac&cheese, SO good after weeks of soup and Ensure).  Go with what you are comfortable with, and go slowly.  

Once you fully adjust, you should be able to eat nearly everything you used to, sans sticky candies and the like.  Until that point, you'll find cutting everything up helps.  Even though I can bite down just fine with my permanent dentures, I still have the habit of cutting up sandwiches from doing it for so long.

I know it can be VERY depressing at times.  Nonetheless, looking back I wouldn't have changed my choice.  I am no longer in constant pain, no one can tell I have dentures, and they are quite functional.  Was it a long road, oh my yes!  However, we are all here to help you!

David
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THANKS DAVID... I AM ON DAY THREE WITH AN UPPER IMMEDIATE... MINE HURT ON THE SIDES BUT MOTRIN IS HELPING ME,AND SALT RINSES
DID YOU LEAVE YOUR TEMPS IN AT NIGHT OR?
 I AM SO HAPPY I FOUND THIS WEBSITE...I WILL KEEP READING THE POSTS...SO THANK YOU EVERYONE..GOD BLESS YOU ALL....SANDRA
PS HAVE A DENTAL APPT TOMORROW MORNING..
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I had all mine out in January. Is it normal to have a tooth come through as now got tooth ache. Also I can feel the tooth
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David Hahn

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Just some humor for the group, as well as evidence that permanent dentures are indistinguishable from real teeth:

I was out shopping at Sam's Club the other day for my father and I.  If you are familiar with that store, they often have salespeople pushing various products.  In this case, it was a "Water-Pik Flosser", and the salesperson was very pushy.  I tried to make a wide turn to avoid her, but she stopped me and gave me her speech, and complimented me on my "nice teeth".  I thanked her, politely declined her offer, and said I did not need her product.

She was quite intent on making a sale, so she tried a high-pressure psychological trick as she pursued me.  She put on a worried face and said, "Don't you want to take care of your nice teeth?!"  Mildly frustrated at her refusal to accept the fact I wasn't interested, I replied "But ma'am, I do take extremely good care of my teeth.  I take them out, brush them, and soak them in Efferdent every night!"  

Her head dropped and she quickly headed back to her kiosk area.  A woman who was close by absolutely lost it and started laughing.  She came up to me and said, "That was the best response I ever heard young man.  I have dentures too, and would have never thought to say that!"  I smiled and told her I wasn't ashamed that I had them, but I sure was annoyed at the salesperson hounding me and wanted to deter her from pursuing the matter further.

Usually I can avoid the salespeople when they are out and about.  Most of the time it is some guy selling cutlery.  Regardless, I made the best of that situation, and managed to get a laugh out of it.  Obviously, my dentures are indistinguishable from real teeth, so there is no need for me to feel self-conscious.  I hope those of you reading this enjoy the story, and are able to get a good laugh out of it!

David
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This cheered me up, am on second week with permanent dentures already eating snicker bars and chicken drum sticks. Mine look like normal teeth except the front behind bit. Has no bite just slopes. Thinking of sanding them down myself as can not eat normal sandwich. I can eat everything else any ideas welcome
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Haha.. That's a good one!
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Hi Tracy, I'm glad I could cheer you up a bit.  I certainly hope you are able to sort things out so you can eat more foods in due time.  The only issue I have is with thin leafy greens that get stuck to the upper palate.  I always take a drink immediately after to try to get it loose, which usually works.

As far as sanding them down, sometimes a DIY is necessary (last resort) if a dentist can't or won't do the work.  I went through a lot of that back when I had partials (that dentist was useless).  If it comes to that, keep modifications minor until you can get a good grinding surface on the back.

Hope that helps!
David
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I have "teeth envy" now that I have dentures! Every time I look at anyone in public, on TV, who have beautiful teeth, I wonder if they are real and if so, wish I had such perfect real teeth!  Then I remind myself, my teeth are real and perfect and MINE!  I paid for them and have the reciept! LOL!