Add official support for Posthumous Ribbons

Allow approved users to give awards to photos on the site based on certain criteria. These awards should be displayed on the photo pages, user's profile, and in some sort of award browser.
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    This is a good idea but in my mind the awards should be placed on the right side of the screen and kept away from actual DPC awards... Which reminds me of another idea I had...
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    Good idea. And a browsable feature too whereby you can browse, for example, all posthumous blues, or silver sturgeouns etc.
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    Let him make his own Site instead. i don't see a necessary for other than dpc ribbons
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  • I don't think that these should be treated in the same way as the official DPC awards, and should definitely be classed as a minor thing (if added at all).

    That being said, perhaps a section for 'community awards' could be added lower down the page, and there be a (small) number of pre-approved/community-nominated judges giving awards out?
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    I'm all for some way to promote community-sponsored Bling, for sure...
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    I think you could put it at the bottom right somewhere and it would be clearly distinguished from the DPC ribbons.
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    Great idea. I think every user should be able to display whichever set of ribbons they feel best represents their style of photography.
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  • I think the two most important things are to make the icons easier to add it to our profile, and to see a compilation of the award winners - a front page of sorts, but in a thread, or indeed, in the community awards section. Perhaps converting the PH Awards thread into a permanent section.
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  • I think that if the site is going to sanction a few unofficial awards, then it needs to be a FEW that really do come from non-community standard angles. Posthumous is excellent because it highlights photography that is not eye candy in the standard perspective. But, if we are not careful, pretty soon every user is going to have a ribbon they award, and then why even vote? I was thrilled to earn a Posthumous. . .I am also thrilled to see other users awarding secondaries. . .but, I fear that soon there will be a thousand people sporting secondary awards that do not have an ANGLE, and are thus simply validations from other users. . .and do we really need ribbons for that?
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    • I feel like we are having a semantical issue here. My point on your close mindedness is in regards to you viewing an image which may have NO imperfections as it was shot in its format on purpose as if it were not shot purposefully that way. This is one of the issues with people who shoot non standard style. They may be viewed as shooting with a lack of perfection, but in reality, many of the "imperfections" on their shots are purposeful. Now, if they weren't going for that. . .then, yes, might be an issue. But many of the shots that win PH awards were shot in "imperfect" styles on purpose. . .thus are just as perfect as other shots.
    • Oliver, I'm sure langdon is thrilled with your suggestion of having DPC subscibers leave DPC to start their own site. I also doubt he needs your help defining DPC goals.
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    I think you should make the process for granting awards a bit complicated, with several steps involved and consistency required. That will filter out the loonies (no disrespect, Steve M).
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    If I were King I would make Bear_Music the face of DPC and have him choose which ribbon(s) are represented. Then I would give each user the option (in their preferences) of which, if any, alternative ribbons they choose to have displayed on their profile page. Then, I would sit back and drink margaritas, made with Cointreau and real limes...
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  • I'm with you on the margaritas Steve, but how about having which awards to display as being the choice of the viewer rather than the participant? That way no one will have to see PH awards unless they specifically choose to do so.
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    Standard ribbons reflect the opinion of the majority of the voters, they are community based awards. While this have limitations, this is how DPC works, and I don't think this should be changed. Other websites work another way, with curators selecting photos they like (1X.com for example) and as far as I understood, many persons also dislike such approach, due to its subjectivity.

    Posthumous ribbons (or similar ones) reflect the opinion of just one person. The mechanism to allow a person express his love for a photo is already implemented in DPC: it's called a favorite. I don't see why there should be any specific mechanism to support the fact some persons like to add little icons or pictures to show their own favorites.
    • Christophe, you are a phenomenal photographer. I have much respect for your work and I've read a few of the interviews that you have given and find a lot of helpful tips in them. That said, you are the number 1 (or close to it) ribbon winner on DPC, so of course you don't feel the need to add any other recognition system. LOL.
    • Thank you! I truly understand your point, and also the fact that a whole category of photos do not get much recognition on DPC despite their own merits. However, this is to be expected on a community website, where opinions come from many different persons, with many different views and expectations. Under such conditions, very specialized and targeted photos will have a hard time emerging from the crowd. It's not totally impossible, but much harder than, let's say, a well done colorful flower cliché photo.

      That being said, giving much importance to the opinion of just one (or a couple of) person would entirely change the philosophy of this website. DPC is not a curated art gallery, where its owners would be able to pick work suiting their own taste. It may be interesting, but this is not what DPC is about IMHO.
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    I have two thoughts:

    1. While I, and many, appreciate the PH ribbons greatly and for what they do, I don't think you can just add official support for his. What about the Ben's Silver Sturgeon? What about Vlado's MUAIMOs? Or Ubique's Order of the Thumb? etc etc. Why one and not all?

    2. I think making the PH ribbons "official" in my mind actually goes counter to what PH ribbons are about? PH ribbons are an informal, unofficial visual discussion of photo's that fall outside of the DPC box, that are unconventional, risque etc. I see the PH ribbons, and all the others, as an underground movement that looks to promote the off-center but does not seek, nor desire the limelight. Guess I equate the PH ribbon "scene" to the grunge scene of the 90's.
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    I actually agree with Gary's 2nd point, and Christophe make a good point about an award that is chosen by one person (any of the PH awards) vs. the mainstream images chosen by the collective. I do like the idea of having the PH award images appear anywhere the regular ribbons do - on the profile page under the regular ribbons, or on the right side of the profile page, and on the photo page itself. THAT I could get behind. Would also free up a lot of space on the profile page!
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    The Ribbon People can keep all the ribbons - I'd just like a way to sort and find the alternate bling if possible. Say I want to find Ubique's order of the thumbs. Can we figure a way to make that possible? Owners of bling can decide if they wish to post on their profile pages as they do now.
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  • just a thought about giving recognition to the underappreciated photos.

    what about having a way to vote a photo "underappreciated" after the challenge is over? maybe after a few days the shot with the most votes gets some kind of underappreciated ribbon for that particular challenge. it wouldn't have to be displayed on the front page but if you go into the challenge results, there could be clickable link to view the top underappreciated shots for that challenge.

    i donno, just a thought.
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  • If the presumption is that "the open vote" is the "way of the site" - well, than I say we take an open vote and list who we feel should be the "jury" of a sort.

    I agree that somehow this extra stuff needs to be limited-or controlled, or somehow "separated", but all these extra "awards" make the site worthwhile in a far deeper way.

    And frankly, its art. its all subjective anyway. Popular is not always better. If what was in museums,such as MOMA, was left to a vote, Thomas Kinkade would be in their, on every wall.
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  • How can one officially sanction an award which is intended to supplement the official awards by recognising an unpopular aethetic? If the idea is to grant " visibility to other works not aligned with the mainstream taste" hasn't an official sanction always been the death toll of the alternative?
    • The death knell tolls only when the 'alternative' takes itself seriously. I doubt many posthumous-thread-award-winners would describe themselves as 'photographers'.
    • I agree, official sanction is death knell, but a way to track others appreciation of photos might work.

      (as a side note, Alternative of what? Not photographers?This is outrageously insulting. remember-(The number two guy on the "useless in your opinion" posthumous awards thread just got a ribbon)

      A photographer who was an artist might embrace change, rather than stay beholden to a fickle, popularity contest often dominated by wedding photographers and graphic designers-just a thought.
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    I kinda consider myself a photographer. An amateur, to be sure, but a pretty dedicated (or insane) amateur photographer.
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  • This comes as an afterthought, as works are on their way and everybody already expressed their opinion.
    Personally, I don't care much about making official what for me is just a good way to talk photography and dig out good images I might have otherwise missed.

    But I realize that what I would really like is the ability to see all images pubblished in a thread as a slideshow or sequence, with filtering per time range and post number range, perhaps with the ability to comment on the fly.
    That would allow everybody to use more easily DPC for pursuing their own specific interests.

    And perhaps an icon for any thumbnail and image to append the image ID to a temporary list, and an icon for dumping the tagged temporary list in a forum post, so to eliminate quite a few clicks and copy and paste.
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