Draft Order

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I am in an ESPN league (Big Ballas, 92255) that has on offline draft.  The draft starts with 2 straight line rounds, worst to 1st, left to right and then reverses right to left and goes to snake style for the remainder of the draft.  The draft order, other than listing the order of the 1st round is not set up on the ESPN website that I can find.  The only way that I can find to set this up in Analyzer is to set up the entire draft in the custom draft order.  So I set it up, start to finish for every single pick.  Selected straight line draft as the base.  And I made certain to choose the team name in white, not the one in blue from the drop down list.  Triple checked my work to insure it was correct.  Hit save.  Checked the draft grid in the Analyzer.  1st 2 rounds were correct.  All the rest of the rounds had arrows pointing in both directions, which was confusing to say the least.  And when I ran a mock draft the program acted confused.  So I went back and hit reset on the custom draft page to put it back to the straight line setting.  Went to league settings, draft style and selected 3rd round reversal just to see what it would do..  I did not do the custom draft this time.  It is essentially the same thing I am trying to do, except it has it's straight line rounds starting a round later and going the opposite direction of my league.  And of course now it worked perfectly except for the fact it won't work for my league.  My draft is Saturday.  One of our league members, who was a good friend of mine, was killed in a car crash a week ago.  We are keeping his team intact this year in his honor, so his entire team is already  in my keepers.  And another members daughter is getting married this weekend so I am drafting his team as well.  This not going to be an easy draft for me and I desperately need your help please. 
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Jim ONeal

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Jay Bellville, Employee

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Hi Jim,

1st off I want to say I'm really sorry to hear about the loss of your friend.  Prayers go out to you and his family.   

As far as the setup goes,  email me your draft order and keepers,  I will take a look and we will make sure to get it set up correctly for you.  support@draftanalyzer.com

Thanks,
Jay
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Thank you so much Jay!  He was one of those special people that you could not find a bad thing to say about.
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Thanks for trying Jay.  Unfortunately it is doing the same thing.  I am beginning to think either I have a bad file someplace or the software just won't accept it.  This is the 1st league I have ever seen do this sort of draft order so that might be the problem.  I'll play around with it.  I did a work around last year by writing the 2nd round down and the league waiting for me to catch up.  But I can't remember what setting I had it on.  I'll let you know.  Thanks Jay.
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Ok, let me know if there is anything I can do to further help you
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Thanks Jay.  One reason I think I might have some bad files is during mock drafts it will lock up when my team only drafts certain players.  It started with Lamar Miller and now it includes Leonard Fournette.  I can get out of it by hitting home and restarting.  But I am wondering if this the forebearer of a bigger problem and if I need to delete and reinstall and it is getting late in the game for that.
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Jim,

Looking at your settings,  Is it right that you play 1 starting QB and 2 Super flex?  So you can start 3 QBs a week?   Just making sure that is right.  I ran a mock.  If you could look at it and tell me which teams dont look right I may be able to help from that too.
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2 QB's can start, 1 in the super flex.  The other super flex is RB-TE.  I reset the custom draft order and just went to 3rd round serpentine.  I remembered that is what I did last year and hard copied the 2nd round and the league let me catch up.  The mock runs fine that way except for when my team, Red Ain't Dead, and my team only drafts Miller or Fornettee.  Then exit and restart.  I will check my settings again.
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Ok,  you had 2 in the superflex (includes qb) on top of the QB starting so just wanted to make you aware of that
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Thanks Jay, I totally missed that.  Corrected that to 1 QB-TE and RB-TE.  Rest of settings are fine.  Still stops on Fournette and Miller in mock.  It shows I have drafted them on the top draft line, the draft line bar is in the next teams draft slot, but the timer still shows my team as being on the clock.  I think I will do it live and purposely draft them in 1st and 2nd round and see what happens.  Then do draft rewind.  Later.
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Did the live draft and then removed all picks.  Same thing happened.  Tried drafting another player when it stopped and it gave that player to my team as well.  It has to make ya laugh.  Good night and good luck.  
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Jay, the more I look at this I am beginning to think we are beating a dead horse.  Both of us tried to setup the custom draft in the 3rd round reversal which is the selection that resembles my draft pattern the closest.  The only difference in the whole thing is how the 1st 3 rounds are run.

3rd round reversal    ---------->                         My draft   --------->
                                               l         X                                                   X
                                 <----------                                          --------->
                                 <----------                                                       l
                                 l                                                       <---------             
                                 ------------>                                        l
                                                                                          ---------->

Where the X is is where the conflict seemed to start with the arrows pointing in both directions.  This is the 1st point that the custom draft order comes in conflict with the preset draft order.  I think that is the problem.  The software looks at and says I ain't doin that and defaults to it's original pattern.  Is there a way to bypass the default selections and base the draft order strictly on the custom draft order?  And if there isn't, perhaps it would be a good idea if the IT department developed another choice in the draft selection setting dedicated to the custom draft order for next year.  That way conflicts would be less likely.  Thanks so much for your help Jay.  I will try one of the other draft order choices, see what happens and let you know the results.
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What if we set it up as a snake,  for how the draft begins at the beginning of the 4th round and then we just edit the first 3 rounds of the custom draft order?
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Oh well, I did this long explanation, forgot to log in 1st and lost it all.  The old phrase applies here, shit happens!  Long story short, draw the patterns of the drafts on a piece of paper, the numbers will fool your mind.  I was overthinking it, drew the patterns and said oh.  Trust me 3rd round reversal is only one line off.  The draft I am trying to create goes 1-12, left to right for rounds 1 & 2.  At the end of round 2 starting Rd 3 it turns around going 12-1 right to left and is serpentine from that point on.  I also tried 3rd round reversal changing the 2nd Rd only to match the pattern.  Didn't work.  Did the straight line pattern, changing only the lines needed to match the pattern.  Didn't work.  I will try the serpentine pattern, see what happens and let you know.  In any case I will be fine.  I always do hard copy in case of problems so if I have to I can go old school.  Thanks for your help Jay and I will tell what happens with the snake. 
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Tried snake, same thing.  I think I have figured out the problem.  I setup in 3rd RD reversal.  Custom draft, changed 2nd RD so the draft order matches mine.  Ran mock 1 no keepers.  Same thing.  Entered Fuskers ( my friend ) roster by round.  Included K Hunt my keeper.  Ran mock 2.  Same thing.  Except this time I didn't let my frustration get in the way.  I compared the draft grid and the rosters on the bottom.  The players are going to the proper teams.  But the draft is complete 180 in the 2nd RD.  The draft is running properly by the draft numbers.  But the 2nd round is going by the draft board position slots.  By the numbers it is drafting correctly.  You see this when you look at the rosters.  But in the 2nd round it drafts by the slots the teams are assigned to at the top of the web page.  If you go to the custom draft and look at the numbers compared to the position of the draft slots on the board it starts to make more sense.  It's only doing what it's being told to do.  It is drafting correctly for the teams, but the problem you have to be dyslexic in order to follow the 2nd round.  Hard copy 2nd round for me.  I left this mock in place.  I don't know if you can see the work left behind.  The only thing I can't check is what you see and I would appreciate if you could check this out.  Blake Bortles is one of Fuskers QB and I am seeing between the draft grid and the fantasy rosters he is listed on 2 different teams.  FYI I put Bortles in as Fuskers 2nd round keeper.  Sorry for the novels and and I really appreciate your help! 
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Jim,

Make sure to look at fantasy Rosters because it will go by the grid and the names dont change on the top so it can look out of order on the grid with them actually going to the correct team.  Does that make sense?   Let me know if they all look correct on Fantasy Rosters tab.

Thanks,
Jay
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Yeah they do.  I checked and all the teams have the right players.  The only problem is in the 2nd round.  When you are drafting for the Bucks in the 2nd round, pick #13, slot 2.1, the live draft board shows you drafting for Dawgs, pick #24, slot 2.12.  The right players are going to the right teams and Fuskers roster doesn't change in the fantasy rosters.  It is just confusing.  I will just hard copy the 2nd round and the league will wait for me to catch up.  It takes like 90 seconds or less unless the internet is slow.  It's not that a big a deal to them, just trying to make my life easier.  I have surrendered to the reality.  I'm 61 and learned long ago life is chalk full of work arounds and this is just another one!  Thanks for all your help Jay and good luck in all drafts!
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Thanks Jim,  Good luck to you as well