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Evony free forever server

Wouldn't be great if evony opens a new age II server which prohibits game cents purchases? Everyone would be on an even battlefield, and It would be a nice gesture toward all the players who choose to play evony free forever, it also provides beginners with a better opportunity to grow.
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    I'm sorry at this time we do not have it planned, the costs of running the servers without the item stores, do not allow us to do this.
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    • I fully agree with evony on this one, as a business owner it makes no sense business wise to have such a thing. It would be nice of them to but .....
      The free forever can be made possible by the wheel, like sticking items that only money players can get would make the playing field more even....
    • Let's turn this inside-out for a sec.
      I agree with what the original poster wants here, but there's another way to move somewhat in that direction without making servers that are actually free.

      The problem is the "even playing field," very probably involving the players who overly tilt things in their favor by spending, sometimes combined with practices that are known to be against the spirit and letter of Evony rules.

      So...how about Evony starts servers where it's got a minimum to spend, invite the elite players from each server, demand as part of the invitation they leave other accounts behind, but make the new server or servers the ones it advertises as the best combat opportunities in the game because of the level of competition.

      To go with this, make the maps bigger, at least 1600 x 1600.
      Set NPCs up at the start of each server, but set 50% of open flats so you can't build NPCs.
      Allow alliances with 200 or more members.
      Allow, even encourage, multiple accounts, up to 20 per player...with that limit at 20, but still saying it's fine.
      Allow a player to earn up to 20 cities per account...the first 10 with the same quest costs as presently, the next 10 at far greater requirements for medals and, perhaps, other things.
      Allow more than level 10 on some things, like archery, barracks, &c.
      Allow more heroes in the feasting hall.
      And so on....

      I don't say any of this out of disrespect for players who play by the rules and put in time. I also don't think this would pull out every paying player if you did it. But, where Evony is looking for short-term profits, and where players are looking for a long-term enjoyment, done right, this would solve lots of problems, and give us all more of what we want.

      There's a lot Evony could do with this.
      But, if you're TRULY listening to players, the discontent that arises is from cheaters, slanted play, unwanted changes to rules when they happen, and those occasions where Evony gets overwhelming response and seems to do the exact opposite of what its players want...without even token effort to find a creative solution. So, here's one to discuss.

      That said, I work in CAD support for circuit designers in the microelectronics industry. Simply, the folks who design computer chips work with me on quality issue. I have a clue when it comes to costs. I still think Evony *could* make a free server or two, but the price to that is how many players would flood it, and leave the other servers. That's more of the reason it's not practical, more because Evony needs to pay the overall bills than because it can't add a couple of non-pay servers for the purists. (And I'd be one of them!)

      But, make the elite servers.
      Just offer them initially to the top 1000 players per server, by some criteria you create. After the initial offering, only let the top 100 join later.
      Keep it elite, where the real "elitism" also involves a minimum spending requirement. For all those grousing on many servers about how the game is going for them, how they need NPC clearings (because they're lazy), and so on...this solves THEIR problems, too.

      I'll bend to the perceived economics on this one, but Evony shouldn't miss a trick here, especially when it might make us all happier.
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    Thantium, Official Rep, replied 2 days ago
    I'm sorry at this time we do not have it planned, the costs of running the servers without the item stores, do not allow us to do this.
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    Okay this is complete BULLSH!T

    you all are gonna tell me that u cant afford to make 1 server where u cant buy cents? Your just greedy, and everyone knows it, u have made a ton off all these servers and i know ppl pay alot, so u cant tell me u cant spare a free server...you just dont want to give us a free server.

    1 free server isnt gonna break your payroll
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  • Im gonna have this idea spread all over facebook, you figure with all that publicity you would be forced to make a free server, IF YOU DONT, THE WHOLE WORLD WILL KNOW HOW GREEDY EVONY IS.
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    • @Snow
      Fantasy sports are free for a few reasons, one they use alot of advertising and generate lots of add revenue. Additionally 1 server supports 100,000 plus people, to support that many people in Evony you would need alot more then then that, each world requires multiple servers to run, which means our costs are alot higher.
    • Snow, I don't think you realize the amount of money it costs to buy the equipment that runs a server. I have been working with drives that store data (like emails and what-not) and those cost 1-2 hundred dollars per drive. Now to store the amount of data needed to run the game smoothly, and keep the e-mial storage on the game, and to keep track of the rising amounts of accounts that will mass that one server because of it being a free server, you are going to need a lot of those drives. Not to mention the need to pay the maintenance and other employees needed to keep the the server up. So the costs just keep going up n up. Without the money coming in from the server it would be hard to keep the server running. I have played both way's, by spending money and by not spending money, and even when i did i never spent much, and i agree it would be nice where the playing field is even, but it is unreasonable to create such a server (and threaten them if they don't) simply because of the costs. My suggestions are this

      1) Learn to play the game, because it is easy to play and advance if you get a good alliance, you know strategy, and know how to farm for medals and other various objects.

      2) If it is still to hard for you look up guides. There are many out there that are very helpful. They can teach you the strategy and how to farm.

      I have gotten to fruz without using any money. It isn't that hard once you know what you are doing.

      Ps. I find it funny how much people will argue an issue when the money isn't coming out of there pocket. If you were the one in there shoes, could you honestly say that you would make the choice to spend a lot of money and not make any in return? Because that is what you are asking them to do.
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  • I’m Laughing my ass off
    Oh snap, it's going on facebook, the cat's out of the bag now. :)
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    sorry but thats how evony makes money

    its not a bad idea but with facebook you dont need to buy anything
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    I agree with this Idea. All we are asking is for one server to be free for those who would like to play with only non paying players.It is very discouraging to play with card slinging players that bully non paying play.At lease find away to level the playing field bit.I am sure you guys are smart enough to come with a solution or put a limit too how fast the money people can advance so at less non payers can get a chance to be on their level.I am just sick of being taken advantage of by bullies.
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  • I'm sure Evony can benefit from a free server and use it to advertise for the other servers. Kind of like when Deny's restaurant offered free breakfast for one day, and now they do it once every year, cause it worked. Honestly does one free server cost more than the evony ad campaign which filled the internet websites a year ago?
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  • So, evony charges 8 cents for 1 armor script, 1-2 cents per "material", drives anti-colonization quests to a halt by allowing plunering/conquering other cities, rigs the gear star system to go from 8+ stars to 0; all of which causes hundreds of players to unjustifiably spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars each to simply gain an edge, but evony still can't afford to run one free server. lol why am I not surprised?

    By the way, those of you who are against this idea, and are not employed by evony, should perhaps consider visiting a therapist. Food for thought.
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  • To clarify a bit. I'm saying that I understand if an evony representative says that this can't be done, but for another evony player to argue against this idea didn't make sense to me, because this idea wouldn't affect those who choose to spend money on this game in any way.

    Sorry if I offended anyone, but I'm always critical of those who spend huge amounts of money on a game which could be played for free. It pains me to see how many $30 packages are purchased per alliance and I simply can't justify it. I know it's other people's money to spend however they like, but it's also a reflection of the player's personality. I also can't understand how gamblers become addicted to losing all their money again and again, but who am I to judge them.
    • Dave Mata (Product Manager) January 26, 2011 18:47
      Joe, I have a gaming background, and one thing we were very cognizant of is that gambling causes high levels of activity in certain parts of the brain, in effect, the stimulation is pleasurable, even when losing. The person comes to desire those feels both emotionally and physiologically, and well... then you have addiction. There's more to it than that, but there is a very real physiological reason for problem gambling. For some people it's beyond "active choice".

      I don't think the actual act of spending money has any reflection on a player's personality. I think there are more than enough opportunities for that to come out in how they play and interact with other players/ forum users, etc.

      I would go one step further and say that games cost money, for a dev to stay active they need revenue. The first iPhone game I worked on sold miserably but had a huge pirated install base - didn't change the cost of our bills at the end of the day, know what I mean?
    • What iphone game was it?
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  • Thank you for the elaborate explanation Dave, and thank you all for your comments. I know that a free server wouldn't make sense to evony from a business standpoint, but it would've been great for players to battle against evenly matched opponents. Hopefully evony can find a way to make this work in their favor, but until then it's pretty frustrating to play evony free forever lol.
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  • Everyone think about what you are asking from Evony. Of course they cann't do this, make a free server. If they did they would have to keep making room and making room in it. Because everyone on the game would want to be on that server. If that happened then Evony would have to shut down because they would go broke.
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  • I’m just givin a link cause I don't feel like doin a copy/paste
    I made a long post about this on the evony forums: http://bbs.evony.com/showpost.php?p=1...

    I like to think my analogy of why it wouldn't be good works well enough.
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    Hi im a frequent user of evony.com and was wondering about 1 just 1 coin free server, it would benefit those who do not wish to spend money on the game or those who don't have a credit card, or those who their parents wont let them.

    A coin free server does not make evony any money but you guys still do have plenty of other servers for coiners.

    I still think that it would be a great idea if as people gain higher prestige, it highers their title and rank, this would stop prestige farmers and make a fair game for all, after all evony's motto is: Free Forever, it may be free to play but it's not free to succeed, if you look at all the top players, they spend money by buying resourses and speedups to level up quick, and also may buy medals to gain titles and ranks of their desire

    like i said gaining higher prestige on a coin free server you would up your title and rank, and also stop prestige farmers.

    Cheers,
    Sincerly,
    Chaz

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Evony Coin-Free Server.
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    At the end of the day Evony is here to make a profit like every company out there, the users on here who think they are entitled to a game where no one can buy things on the game are just being plain silly. Evony is already doing great. Look at games like Eve:Online which you need to pay for the desktop software to run the program and then you need to pay a monthly subscription fee to pay for the game. Evony is already for all intents are purposes "free". It is a person's choice to pay any money to Evony.
    • It's true you don't HAVE to spend money. But it's pretty much impossible to keep up with the bigger players and alliances without spending. Sure skill plays a part. AS someone that doesn't spend, I have built my account up to top 60. But it's impossible to keep up with the top 30 because they buy on wars, penicillin, excalibur. That really tips battles in their favour.
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    Looking at the Idea from the "Pro free server" perspective, the server would inspire higher competitivity between coin players on other servers and would probably make them spen alot more money fighting each other which would, in turn, make alot more money for evony in a short amount of time. Also, Evony did promise to be "free for ever" as part of their advertisement, so creating a free server would also be keeping a promise although players can play for free on other servers as well.

    Now, looking a the discussion from the other perspective, over time high-paying coin players would begin to repel low-paying players from the servers (small loss considering how much Evony would gain from the competitivity,) which is bad. Adding on to this, Free Players are important for other players (Paying and Free alike) to create aspiring cities with plundering, colonizing etc. Giving Free Players an incentive to leave would, over time, also incentive paying players to stop playing as they need the Free Players and low-paying players to aspire to the top ranks.

    An Idea, that could possibly benefit both sides is that Evony could give in just a little bit. What I mean by this is, when the next server opens don't let players buy items for 30 days. The reason for this is to allow Free Players a fighting chance against the high-paying players, who would continue to spend money on the game. Most likely, due to how good the Free Players would be after a month, the Paying Players would probably spend more money than they usually would to catch up (if they are behind) and to get the upper hand. Thus, benefiting Evony a lot more than Free players but still giving them a fair(er) fight towards being a top player.
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  • I know many of the people that i play with are tired of some players spending money every second and get so far in the game. So a lot of us want one server that is totally free where you cannot pay at all. A server where you have to find your own medals not just buy them whenever you feel like.

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Will there ever be one totally free server?.
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  • sorry mate im agaisnt it :(
    because everyone will buy speed ups and it will be crazy and everyone will build up fast and for someone who just joined will die straight away.
    But it will be nice if everythiing was free :)
    but sorry mate not so good idea :(
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  • i understand that you ppl need to make money
    the game is fun and i spend a lot of time on it
    problem is every server within a week or so you got ppl with 9 citys,millions in pres,and they destroy any enjoyment for the nobodys,im on a fixed income,maby i can get the 5 dollar thing once in awhile,a 30 pkg very rarely
    im a darn good player but youd never know it
    how about a server were the money you can spend is lomited,say 1 30 dollar pkg a month
    im gonna quit playing soon,no matter how hard i try,im continually wiped out by coiners the fun is gone

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    free server.
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  • There is a way to have a free server and make money. Thats with adds, but that would also take away from the fun of it... the question is; Which would be more fun? A server with people who spend money with no ads, or a server without money with ads?
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  • Suggestion: Have 1 server where everyone is on an even playing field....NO "coiners", NO buying items, just everyone using what they start with and create through their gameplay. This would keep the game even and fair for all, requiring strategy and forethought to be a leader in the game. That would create a truly interesting game.

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    Fair and Even Gameplay.
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  • Evony, Can you make an Age 2 server with no option to spend money. All items you need can be aquired from faming valleys and npc's and also from amulets. This way the server would actually be down to player and alliance tactics it would really show who is the best without the usual credit card players getting the advantage. Im sure others would love this server, I appreciate you need the money to carry on running but one server surely wouldnt hurt?

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    No Money Allowed Server.
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  • Why not a server you pay a fee to be in but no one can coin? So it is still supported but its a even playing field,
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  • Evony -- Free Forever is awesome. I can play on a new server for two or three months, and then when I cannot compete with the heavy coiners, jump to the next new server. You never make a dime on me. I know from the start I cannot afford to keep up with those guys, so I enjoy the free game for as long as it is enjoyable.

    What I would pay money for would be Evony -- Level Playing Field. In Evony -- Level Playing Field every player would pay the same monthly fee and there would be no option to spend more. You know what the average player is spending and what the bell curve looks like. You could design Evony LPF to appeal to the fat middle.

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    Evony Level Playing Field.
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  • Evony should release one or two free worlds where you cant buy cents or any items with cash, you can only get cents from wheels and quests. This way, the 95% of players that dont use thousands of dollars into this game can actually shine.
    How do you earn a profit from this? Lots of ways:
    1. Old player rejoins because free. Gets addicted again. Goes to other worlds. Gets mad at advantages paid players have over him/her. Buys cents. Becomes happy. Goes broke. Evony gets profit.
    2. Put ads for this world, because it is free.
    3. Strike a deal with companies with surveys so you can get cents by doing surveys.
    4. Strike a deal with fb to buy cents with credits, because you could earn credits(other worlds)
    5. Players get happy, attracts more players, get more money from players on other worlds.

    The worthless updates to things like graphics and avatars are old and useless, make an update for something nice and new for once, like this!

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  • No Money Servers
    The idea came to me that there should be new servers on Age I that do not allow players to spend money on resources and items. It would be bring a fun competitive element to the game that a lot of us crave already. Now I know Evony is in it for the money so I wouldn't mind if they charged a one time fee to cover potential losses, let me know what you think. I haven't really thought it through as to wny it couldn't happen so don't burn me...lol

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  • Obviously, Evony needs people to spend money to support the servers. What would work great, I think, would be to set up servers with a spending limit . . . say the base servers are for people who spend no more than $30 / month. Next tier allows up to $60 / month, so on, up to perhaps an unlimited server.

    People would be allowed to join any server they choose, but they would be limited to that servers spending limit, so a player couldn't join the $30/month server, then spend $300 in one month.

    I think this would even the playing field in each server. Most of the "free" players would join the $30 / month servers, where they would likely do a bit better than they do now mixed into servers with players that are spending $$$ every month, and those $$$ spenders would be on a server with other big money accounts, giving them a more challenging experience, instead of allowing them to dominate a server.
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