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Issue Effecting Fair & Fun Play: Speech Text Stratagem

Dear attractive and brilliant members of the Evony team, I come here today, as suggested by one of your staff, with a plea. A plea to consider the effects of one little stratagem, and how it greatly changes the game we all play and enjoy in a negative way.

Issue:
As many of you know this strat can be had for free on FB. This is not an issue, the issue itself is that this can be used without limit and in combination with closed gates to not only keep a Historic City indefinitely, but I feel to wholly go against the heart of what this game is about: strategic war. Currently on NA1, and I fear other servers, people do not need to fight to keep their cities. They need only shut their gates, and apply this stratagem periodically. Losing none of their army while still keeping their city. This renders loyalty and grievance features irrelevant as game features. This frustrates people that cannot play the game how I, and many others feel it was intend to play.

Suggestion:
Limit the use of this stratagem when applied to a Historic City to once per day or once per X hours perchance. Reconfigure how to allow the art of war to be reestablished so that tactics, troop wave types and endurance of massive armies of great alliances tell the tale of how great wars will be fought and cities won, a long and aggressive battle, and tug of war of hundreds of people involved....rather than a simple application of a stratagem to win indefinitely by a *single* person.

Thank you for your consideration.
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  • *clap* *Clap* *clap* *clap* congrats to dumb-a$$ evony for making a space age evony! WHAHHAHAHAH this proves that that will do and have done nothing to improve game play.... My suggestion, play as a time filler, don't take it too seriously DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY MORE $$$$$$ and D NOT PLAY THEIR NEW LAME GAME!!!
    Evony u thieving trolls... no updates? no fixes? ya slimey bastardds
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  • I’m p!ssed off
    evony dont give a sh!t about this problem, ive seen tons of topics posted asking to sort this problem out but yet no reply from any member of staff in any of the topics. they created this "feedback" site so they dont have to reply to peoples emails now, another reason to ignore what they want and take cash from people.

    this problem is already out of hand and evony devs are just being lazy and money greedy, i wont be recommending this game to anyone and will be quiting soon. thanks evony for your ignorance towards people who pay your wages.

    the game is impossible to play and pointless due to the bots comforting, i use to really enjoy this game but this bullsh!t is just stupid now.

    SPEAK UP EVONY STAFF AND TELL US WHY YOUR NOT FIXING IT!!!!!
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    • lmao? are you serious, lol you have an alliance for a reason if a state capital gets hit then the rest of the alliance should also port in to help, its called war! you seem to be full of useless ideas, get rid of ports? wtf is that all about, how else can we fight? oh that sounds great sending a mech wave 400miles across the server, great strategy that is

      the issue here is closing gates and managing to hold hc's forever, go to work and come home and the attackers are still sitting on 11 loyalty, its getting a bit boring now.

      how fun would headquarters in call of duty be if someone couldnt be killed when they are at the objective, wouldnt be very fun well this is the same concept if you think that you should have an hc and never get attacked then maybe you should go play viva pinata because in my eyes hc's are just a small game of king of the hill.

      A good alliance can hold a state capital by using reinforcements and porting in to help when attackers port in, to be honest you actually sound like someone who uses the comfort/speech strategy and has never attacked an hc since you played the game.
    • I was kidding though I expect a stand Evony reps will take because there told to.

      I say get rid of ports because all these people who brag how big anbd great was stratigist. Doesnt take any to port in. All the suden appear next to an enemy. in a organized single camped wave kill the wall and quite a few troop. Includin the fact a lvl 100 Heroew or lvl 150 HH is used and Monarch.

      Before they can RI they have to see it in War Reports first. Which take how long. Long after the first hit lands clearing the walls I can garentee that much. An HC is far worse since you cant truce it or port.

      Useless because I dont much care to change the rules to give me free easy wins Evony. In real you March to war you dont tranport and fly in Magical Castles of BS.

      The guy who own the HC or city you think everyone has the right to use port to attack come home. Finding his account trashed because the loosers poked and tested to see if there on line to find an easy targt because attacking someone takes balls not attacking someone while off line.

      Comfort and Speach only buys some time and does a little to level the playing field clearly goin against defenders.

      Clearly your the sort who thrives on that cheap shot. Evony is dying so might as well get your way. DDO, WOW and LOTR is free to play now. There doing pretty well now.
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  • I’m excited
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    Looking forward to the changes coming in May and looks like this will bring the fight back to many servers where people can enjoy PvP as it was meant to be played. (If implemented right) :D

    I know the feedback from members and other alliances has all been positive and every body will be looking to buy many of one type of the strats, that's if it is not able to be countered with another rendering it useless.

    Thanks Evony for bringing back the war to you game.
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  • What positive. I have not seen any outisde the handfull crying for Evony to make it more easy for them to attack a red HC and take there HH's. So I dont see that as Positive. What so ever there. lmao
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    • I understand this is an Age 2 thread, but the talk about the changes coming in less than two weeks heavily implies that all of the Aether-1 stuff is focused on Age 2. If that plays out, then there are going to be a lot of upset / disappointed people, especially in light of the clue chasing...
    • What you never read about cause and affect. Unlike the games crappy Combat Mechanics of using ports as a sound stratigy. Account sharing is the cause and affect of the events of how the game has been acceptably been run over with groups of power players and heavy coiners. People game play addapt to get by through such challenges. I am pretty sure its not going to change just to make it more easy for you to get that gimp win win.You want the ballance to tip to make you happy and more easy for you to get what you want to achieve. Unfortunately there thoudands of others who play so I am afraid there going to have to be considerd as well into the effort of a ballance game. I am sure Ciz PC games are still made or Age of Empires which Evony is said to have taken the game grom. Thats a all you controlled game.

      I state the facts not simply desires of one self to get there own way. Though I dont have alts, Bot or use account sitters unless I am at work and unable to have access to a PC when this class of loosers most likely choose to attack thinking they have a easy win.
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  • Ok, lets see. First any pay sight claiming to be free will never have a level playing field. Any time you can buy an advantage it can't be level. People are complaining because others use fb and tools in the game to hold HC's, when that is not the problem. The problem is they just pissed away their cash to attack someone who paid nothing and can't have their way. I agree the way speech texts and comforts are used is against the way the game should be played, but I also don't believe buying your way to the top was the way either. Don't waste your money on a toy that is "almost" what you want then complain because it's broken. It was broke from the start and no one is going to fix it. There are to many issues to fix. The best evony can do is follow thru on their aprilfools joke and start a different site. Either its a pay sight or a free sight but until that happens it will never be fair. Remember there are only two fairs, state fair and county fair.
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  • Zach, this issue has nothing to do with paid for advantages. Thats a whole other issue.
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  • well that you may be wrong but still it goes into an area Evony will never change.
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  • Zachary you make no sense... It has nothing to do with your comments or examples. It's about how to make the game fun and challenging. Buying your way to the top? WTF has that got to do with ANYTHING when people talk about SPECIFIC issues to counter holes in the game... A RAM was ALWAYS used for breaking down or through things.. the game should reflect this. stick to facts and don't go on about "buying this and that".
    Thanks
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  • BARD: "Though I dont have alts, Bot or use account sitters unless I am at work and unable to have access to a PC when this class of loosers most likely choose to attack thinking they have a easy win."

    HAHHAHA I don't have bots/account sitters unless I am at work... you are a fool, in other words... Yes I do cheat, like I accuse everyone else of...
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  • just give up they wont sort the problem aether-1 will be just as big of a joke, bots will be made for that and the whole circle will continue, i dont even think evony even look at this site its just here to stop people spamming there inbox
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  • were you expecting something better. Not going to happen. It will be more negineered to squeez more coin sales out of everyone. Less free to play forever. lmao

    Rams were never verry affective. So the reason siege war fare took anywhere from a week to some time years.

    Yes it more about purchasing your way along as more towards a realistic ballance. When you add a unrealistic event like ports and various strats. It throws reality out the window. Also frying horses and super trooper HH's.
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  • each level of HC should have a different level of comforting ability?

    1)
    an HC12 is basically useless until something is done about undraftable troop counts, so no big deal about letting them be able to comfort and maintain possession. . .
    an HC14 has some regional power, and should only be held by a higher committment type of player, with limited comforting ability
    an HC16 controls a state, and i would say should have a bare minimum of comforting ability
    Atlantis should have no comforting ability. . .

    2)
    or another option would be to allow HCs an 8 hour truce with no option for comforting for 16 hours afterwards? Evony doesnt need to be a game designed only for 24/7 players, because noone can do that, and it just about forces account sharing to happen.

    3)
    another option would be to decrease the comforting ability of an HC determined by the length of time it has been occupied by the same player. say for 30 days its normal, then diminishes by 10% per month after that, eventually to a point where no comforting/ speechtexting can be done by that player in that HC

    In addition to this, all higher level HCs that come under attack (HC14s, HC16s, Atlantis) should be IP monitored by evony, and any jump from locations should draw a red flag and either be banned or suspended. I know of one HC16 account that's IP jumps continents all day long, insta-ban in my opinion.

    I beleive the IP monitoring of the accounts will control the issue very well, and some of the alliances in here complaining about speechtexts/ comforting will become just as weak in a short period of time as the players they are complaining about. Once account sharing suspensions/ bans have levelled the playing field again i don't beleive there will be so many complaints about speech texting/ comforting. . .

    oh yeah and lmao about aether-1, everyone seems to think its a solution to their suggestions (battering rams opening gates? lmfao)
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    • lol. Let A battering ram be as effective as it was in real siege war fare. Meaning not very much at all.

      As for limiting comforting for a HC. Ya have to fracken joking right. Or simply irked you cant capture a certain reds HC so ya want Evony to make it more easily do able for you. Your sugestion is right up gimp.

      As for the IP adress. Never going back to that. Though the exsuses my intire family plays is getting old when there over 30 accounts from 1 IP address. lmao
    • Yes I want evony to make it so an hc is capable on na22 we broke rome (300 500) 4 days ago we are doing a comforting battle its been troopless since. The 16 is being bot comforted everytime it goes to 10 loy so it resets to 15. I have to wait 6 min before loy drops 1 point with 1 push of a button she can erase 30 min of what I did. What they are doing is supressing her other cities so we cant attack them and they are doing it every 8 hours. At some point there needs to be a stop to the comforting the battle has been over for days.
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  • May 6th has gone by and indeed the whole server changed.
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  • ok lets say this today conforting bots are in the game if they put a warehouse in thier historical city and use the aid of a conforting bot while not online and come on right before a designated time for server reset then they are not catching the botters .... or in this case the cheaters in this game .... i love the game but if we could figure a way against these cheaters and having fair play for all then it would be greatly appreciated .... on na 39 we hit a lvl 14 historic city non stop for 3 days and never got it past loyalty 9 due to a conforting bot doing disaster relief ..... and i feel thats what 90% of the main complaint is here .... personally i think those accounts should be banned from login in indefinately and not put on vacation that way they loose thier historical heros and everything either play right or dont play at all....
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  • I agree Josh we finally capped Rome it took us 6 days to do it, and the way we managed was we figured out her bot wouldn't login after maint it took between 30 and 50 min so what we did was when we got the 15 min to maint warning we let the bot comfort this way we knew we had an extra 14 min on top of normal maint plus the additional 30-50 min after. Then we unloaded on it getting grievance to 100 hopefully to 12 loy or lower. Now just before maint when you get the 1 or 2 min warning you besiege all waves in every 1 of their cities and ambush them if the bot isn't programed properly it cant use the advanced by hidden path strat. In the last few weeks we stole 3 16's from this alliance with this method and they just basically gave 1 to us and said im done on this server and the latest person just NPC it not even wanting to try and defend it.
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