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  • June 18, 2020 19:53
    Jim Greene
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    Jim Greene
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  • June 18, 2020 17:44
    Jim Greene
    Changed reply in topic of temple icon color change. by Jim Greene to Hi, thanks for the question. There are actually four colors in total, so if your list does not have green or orange it is because you either don't have any that you have reserved to do yourself, or you have a filter on.  Future enhancements will help you with your sharing to ward, stake, and family. If you pull up your reservation list there is additional information next to every ordinance, and there are many filters that you can apply to see just what you want to see..
  • June 18, 2020 01:34
    Jim Greene
    Changed reply in topic of 90-Day Reservations & Ordinances Ready by Jim Greene to Gordon and Toms and all, I guess I was unaware of that document's existence. That feature has not yet been released, nor will it be as long as the temples are closed for proxy work..
  • June 18, 2020 01:19
    Jim Greene
    Changed reply in topic of Color code change for ordinances already sent to the temple file from green to anything else by Jim Greene to From this thread I would like to answer everyone's questions. I am sure not everyone will like my answers, but all I can do is explain, I cannot force you to agree with me or with our directions. Let me just add that with all things temple we are not doing this capriciously, there is a council and a constant plea for inspiration and guidance and counsel.First, you need to be familiar with the various places you can work with temple ordinances and information. There are two. From the ordinances tab on the individual's person page, from the Temple menu on the top bar, and its sub-menus-- My Reservations, also Shared.<br /><br />1) There was a question about how to know if a card has been printed or not. If you click on Temple, then My Reservations you will see your entire reservation list. If you are not seeing it then click on Filter, and at the bottom Reset Filters. You will notice that next to the blue icon it will tell you whether it has been printed or not, or a gray icon if it has been completed. If all you want to see is a list of all that you have reserved that have been printed, go to Filter and select either Printed or Not Printed. Your entire list will appear of that selected category.<br /><br />2) I can't just submit a SP without reserving all of the other ordinances. For the most part this is true, but it can be done with a couple of extra steps. First from the person page Ordinances tab select the person. The SS is separated from the other ordinances so make sure you do not check that box if you just want SP, or uncheck it if it is checked already. Select Request. All of the ordinances (BCIESP, or whatever else is requitable) will be placed in your My Reservations list. Go to Temple and My Reservations. Click on the box next to the person's name that you just Requested, then Select Share, Share with Temple (lower menu). In this case it will share all ordinances for this person that have not been previously shared. In Eric's example above the SP was the only ordinance that had not been previously shared so it will be the only ordinance shared. Once it has been shared then you can Unshare or Unreserve all of the other ordinances, whatever you choose.<br /><br />3) I want to see everything that I have previously shared with the temple. Click on Temple (top menu) then Shared. You will see a complete scrolling list of all ordinances shared with the temple.<br /><br />4) How can I unshare just endowments? Go to Temple (Top line) then Shared. Next go to the Filter and select only the endowment in the section for filtering ordinances. Now go and select the name(s) of those who have an endowment that you want to unshare. Click on Unshare. Done.<br /><br />5) I want a separate color for those that are shared vs. those that have never been shared with the temple. This answer is more problematic. As I understand the reasoning behind this it is because folks are doing Descendancy research or are doing what we call walking the tree in order to find names that are able to be submitted to the temple. Having both states be one color means that I will click on a green icon and find that it has already been shared with the temple = waste of time. Make those that have been shared a different color to help me not waste my time. The answer here requires a bit more information, and it requires some understanding.&nbsp;We are no longer in a position where names submitted to the temple is more important than to have the ordinances performed. Therefore, while not changing the meaning we are changing the emphasis of the green temple. We need to think of it as "This ordinance is available for temple work to be performed." It does not mean "This ordinance is ready to be requested/reserved or submitted/shared with the temple." &nbsp;We have been given the charge to help get every worthy member to the temple if at all possible with a family name. And if possible we want them to know how to do it, and not rely on others to do it for them. Thus, green means a temple opportunity, blue means in progress, grey means done, and orange means it is not ready or not available. That's it. It is directed toward most of those who are beginners, because now we have ways to accommodate them. Those who are long-time family historians, who have been a tremendous help over the years, are still needed and appreciated and we hope to be able to show you new ways in which you can continue to carry this work forward--for your families on both sides of the veil. Thank you!! (P.S. if you have ideas please of important things to do that family historians can do for their families, please pass those ideas along..
  • June 18, 2020 01:18
    Jim Greene
    Changed reply in topic of Color code change for ordinances already sent to the temple file from green to anything else by Jim Greene to From this thread I would like to answer everyone's questions. I am sure not everyone will like my answers, but all I can do is explain, I cannot force you to agree with me or with our directions. Let me just add that with all things temple we are not doing this capriciously, there is a council and a constant plea for inspiration and guidance and counsel.First, you need to be familiar with the various places you can work with temple ordinances and information. There are two. From the ordinances tab on the individual's person page, from the Temple menu on the top bar, and its sub-menus-- My Reservations, also Shared.<br /><br />1) There was a question about how to know if a card has been printed or not. If you click on Temple, then My Reservations you will see your entire reservation list. If you are not seeing it then click on Filter, and at the bottom Reset Filters. You will notice that next to the blue icon it will tell you whether it has been printed or not, or a gray icon if it has been completed. If all you want to see is a list of all that you have reserved that have been printed, go to Filter and select either Printed or Not Printed. Your entire list will appear of that selected category.<br /><br />2) I can't just submit a SP without reserving all of the other ordinances. For the most part this is true, but it can be done with a couple of extra steps. First from the person page Ordinances tab select the person. The SS is separated from the other ordinances so make sure you do not check that box if you just want SP, or uncheck it if it is checked already. Select Request. All of the ordinances (BCIESP, or whatever else is requitable) will be placed in your My Reservations list. Go to Temple and My Reservations. Click on the box next to the person's name that you just Requested, then Select Share, Share with Temple (lower menu). In this case it will share all ordinances for this person that have not been previously shared. In Eric's example above the SP was the only ordinance that had not been previously shared so it will be the only ordinance shared. Once it has been shared then you can Unshare or Unreserve all of the other ordinances, whatever you choose.<br /><br />3) I want to see everything that I have previously shared with the temple. Click on Temple (top menu) then Shared. You will see a complete scrolling list of all ordinances shared with the temple.<br /><br />4) How can I unshare just endowments? Go to Temple (Top line) then Shared. Next go to the Filter and select only the endowment in the section for filtering ordinances. Now go and select the name(s) of those who have an endowment that you want to unshare. Click on Unshare. Done.<br /><br />5) I want a separate color for those that are shared vs. those that have never been shared with the temple. This answer is more problematic. As I understand the reasoning behind this it is because folks are doing Descendancy research or are doing what we call walking the tree in order to find names that are able to be submitted to the temple. Having both states be one color means that I will click on a green icon and find that it has already been shared with the temple = waste of time. Make those that have been shared a different color to help me not waste my time. The answer here requires a bit more information, and it requires some understanding.&nbsp;We are no longer in a position where names submitted to the temple is more important than to have the ordinances performed. Therefore, while not changing the meaning we are changing the emphasis of the green temple. We need to think of it as "This ordinance is available for temple work to be performed." It does not mean "This ordinance is ready to be requested/reserved or submitted/shared with the temple."&nbsp;We are no longer in a position where names submitted to the temple is more important than to have the ordinances performed. Therefore, while not changing the meaning we are changing the emphasis of the green temple. We need to think of it as "This ordinance is available for temple work to be performed." It does not mean "This ordinance is ready to be requested/reserved or submitted/shared with the temple."&nbsp;We have been given the charge to help get every worthy member to the temple if at all possible with a family name. And if possible we want them to know how to do it, and not rely on others to do it for them. Thus, green means a temple opportunity, blue means in progress, grey means done, and orange means it is not ready or not available. That's it. It is directed toward most of those who are beginners, because now we have ways to accommodate them. Those who are long-time family historians, who have been a tremendous help over the years, are still needed and appreciated and we hope to be able to show you new ways in which you can continue to carry this work forward--for your families on both sides of the veil. Thank you!! (P.S. if you have ideas please of important things to do that family historians can do for their families, please pass those ideas along..
  • June 18, 2020 01:03
    Jim Greene
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  • June 17, 2020 21:49
    Don M Thomas, the poster:
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  • June 17, 2020 06:44
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  • June 16, 2020 22:18
    Jim Greene
    Changed reply in topic of Green icon for ordinances that are already reserved & shared by Jim Greene to Thanks Tom for this summary. Actually, I need to apologize and clarify. While the temple list size is certainly an issue that we are looking at, it is not the primary issue. I am going to paste a copy of one of my other responses which better brings out the primary desired outcome:<br /><br />The temple experience can be a very moving and motivating experience, even a life-changing one. There is real power associated with the turning of hearts. We have found through our research that the most profound experience is when we know the loved one for whom we are doing the work. Followed close behind by us knowing that person vicariously through our research and efforts to qualify them for temple work. Next, we have found that knowing we are related to the person for whom we are officiating is a better experience than doing the work for a random name given us upon arrival. It is our desire, and our leader's desire, that every member have the most rich temple experience possible. We know that not everyone has the ability or even desire to do family history research. However, everyone should be able to easily come in to the FamilySearch app, either on their phone or on their desktop, and find someone to whom they are related who needs ordinances, find out some basic information, and go to the temple. &nbsp;That is why we are presenting the names that are reserved and shared as available. We want them to feel that they can go in and find these names easily. Ordinances Ready is also a vital part of this plan, and we will be doing other things in steps to make this goal a reality. Our ultimate goal is that every person who arrives at the temple comes already knowing for whom they will be serving. And hopefully knows a little about them. &nbsp;Even if that means pulling out their phone in the parking lot!! &nbsp;Thus, my question. The day could come where temples don't have or don't need lists. More food for thought....:) The things we now do manually, are candidates for automation. We need to build a system that users can trust, and users need to learn how to trust the system. &nbsp;Thanks again for all you do to contribute to this work, and especially for such a kindly worded posting!.
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    Don M Thomas, the poster:
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    Kerry Palm, the poster:
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    Christine, the poster:
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    Don M Thomas, the poster:
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  • June 14, 2020 22:11
    Jim Greene
    Changed reply in topic of Color code change for ordinances already sent to the temple file from green to anything else by Jim Greene to David, please have your Temple Department friend check out his statement, FamilySearch works very closely with the temple department on all things temple related. Maybe he is just not&nbsp;aware. We may make the recommendations, but they are all ratified..
  • June 14, 2020 22:10
    Jim Greene
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  • June 14, 2020 19:34
    Don M Thomas, the poster:
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