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Adding parents through source link

Hi. When I add a parent through the sources link it does not check whether the parent is already in the database. This has lead to many duplicates which I then have to merge. This seems to particularly be a problem when the child is not in the database (therefore we have to create a new person), yet the parents are. Could we have the database checked for pre-existing parents?
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    If the examples I have encountered are anything to go by that would be very difficult in most cases. There is often very little detail shown against the parents - in the case of census records there might be a year and place of birth, but these are frequently inaccurate.

    If it were possible to do this, I would have thought there would have been such programming at the time of records coming across from nFS to Family Tree. If parents had ten children, you often find ten sets of duplicate parents, one for each child.
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  • I work outside FamilySearch when it comes to assembling a family and their sources. My preferred program is Ancestral Quest (AQ), since it is fully certified and has an excellent interface with FamilySearch FamilyTree (FSFT).

    Once I have everything set up, then I go into FSFT and make sure the family is correct in the massive tree. That includes all the children.

    Before going any further, I search for (using AQ) and merge all duplicate records after making careful comparisons. Because I have an existing fully sourced record set for the family, I find validating duplicates much easier.

    Then, because I have taken care of all potential duplicates, I can use AQ's interface with FSFT to add any missing members and information. AQ has the same "provide reason statement" (displaying existing reason statements) that FSFT has.

    Now, with everyone added, I'm ready to use the source linker to link the FS sources with the person in FSFT. Any sources which are not in FS can be added from my AQ copy.
    • Thanks for your comments. I used AQ for several years for the same reasons but got tired of the double recording. Maybe I should relook at it.
    • I start with the record in AQ and build it there. The developer has improved the interface with FSFT to the point where once I sync the two records, I can work from within AQ and use the connection to transfer the information from AQ to FSFT.

      With the exception of sources, which are too person-centric for my tastes in FSFT (when using the source linker), and discussions, which are not supported at this time by AQ, almost everything else is, including the ability to move sources into the couple relationship area.

      Unfortunately, there are some areas in FSFT that are lacking and one of them is the couple relationship area.

      With AQ, I can record couple events that are not possible with FSFT, which is primarily why I use a certified family tree management program like AQ.

      Both Legacy and Roots Magic are fully certified, but I do not care for their user interface or how they handle certain features. It is all a matter of preferential choice.
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    Actually, the routine does look for records for the parents which are already in Family Tree and on a rare occasion, I have had it find them. Most of the time if it does find possible duplicates it will give a list of half a dozen names for possible parents, none of which are correct. We've been told that the Possible Duplicates routine, which must be the same one the Source Linker uses, is being re-written to be more like the Hints routine which should improve its ability to find those pre-existing parents and cut down the amount of merging you need to do.
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  • Paul and Gordon,

    You are both correct. The system does indeed look for possible duplicates before adding a new person and second time if the user changes any of the data presented in the Add pane. There are a great number of free floating 2 or 3 person mini trees in the FT database which have very little information on the parents for the system to match against and which are difficult for a Match system to bring forward with any confidence. We are implementing a new duplicate finding routine in the SourceLinker person add flow which is based on the new Hinting engine. This will be delivered to users along with an SL update scheduled to be released soon. I expect the results will be better, but it is unlikely to identify all duplicates given the lack of data on some of the people.

    -Robert
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  • Thanks for all your responses. Due to the excellence of the Dutch records I usually do have enough information to identify someone. I get the opportunity to match when adding anyone but the parents. At least for me, it has not given me possible matches to date. This update may just be what I need. Thanks again.
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