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BUG or incorrect information on Collection "Ireland Civil Registration, 1845-1913" ?

Ireland Civil Registration, 1845-1913
https://www.familysearch.org/search/c...

On the page it is stated "View Images in this Collection
Browse through 367,912 images"

When I clicked to browse the images, I got the message
"Image Unavailable. This image is unavailable for online viewing at this time"

Elsewhere this message is generally a BUG. See the topic
"BUG - "This image is unavailable for online viewing at this time" message. "
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I then looked at the catalogue record for "Ireland civil registration, 1845-1913"
https://www.familysearch.org/search/c...

Here to view images you are directed to an external website.

So my question is
Why does the Collection page direct you to images which are not available, whether due to an error, or actually are not available. If they are truly not available on FS, why are you directed to something not available, or why not be directed to the external site, as per the catalogue entry.

Why is there a difference between the catalogue entry and the Collection.
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  • It looks like the catalog entry covers more than one set of records. The third set mentioned are records that I have looked at (many years ago) on microfilm in the Family History Library. I just checked and the films in the collection are the same films that I looked at.

    I chased down the film in the Catalog and it shows only the index and film icons. I had previously Captured an image of the birth record for my Grandfather through the FS site.

    This may be a case where there was no "authorization" for making the digitized images viewable through the internet and once that was discovered, permission was something that (I'm speculating here) was not granted, but instead, we are now directed to the Irish Genealogy site.

    I chased down my Grandfather's birth and there are no images available on the Irish site. In fact, the image has a lot more information that is provided on the site itself.

    I'm just glad that I grabbed the images before they went away.
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  • I recall when these records were available at FHCs and Affiliate Libraries, and I had the bad luck of going to visit an AL the very day (in April 2018) the images were taken offline.

    I think the reason these images are restricted is because Northern Ireland charges to view BMDs.
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  • I'm tempted to say that Irish Civil Registration on FS is a bit like quantum theory - if you think you understand it, you clearly don't.

    The collection "Ireland Civil Registration, 1845-1913" seems to consist of 3 sub-collections - I only looked at the births sub-collection. That seems to consist of microfilms of the indexes produced by the GRO(Ireland) and microfilms of the actual birth certificates from the GRO(I).

    FS seems to have filmed and indexed the indexes for births from 1864 to 1921 and filmed the birth certificates from 1864 to 1955-ish. The birth certificates have been partly indexed 1864-1881. None of these images have been digitised. There is nothing at all for births - indexes or certs - for 1881-1900.

    It's way too late in the week for me to ponder what the best way of presenting this data should be - I only write the above to show how complex stuff is, but I will say that if I go into "Ireland Civil Registration, 1845-1913" "Database with images" and try to browse something, it's not clear whether I should be seeing the indexes or the actual certificates. I can't see anything ("This image is unavailable for online viewing at this time") but I don't don't know what I should be seeing. The catalogue's lowest levels imply it ought to be images of indexes but not images of certificates. Perhaps.

    Maybe some re-labelling needs to be done when we can actually see what's there.
    • There was actually a gap in filming the birth records for where my family lived (County Antrim). The gap happened from some time before 1881 to sometime after 1900. I don't have the exact dates, but it impacted three of my grandfather's siblings. I have not been able to capture the birth records from the Irish site.

      I suspect that one of the reasons Family Search is now directing people to the Irish site is because they could not film the records from that gap (I asked at the FHL in Salt Lake about ten years ago).

      Regardless, the online FS references need to be "fixed" and yeah, now I am convinced that this is a BUG.
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    I just opened a new thread on the "Visit Partner Site" problem that plagues this set of records. It also plagues an Illinois marriage set of records, but in those cases, the "Visit Partner Site" isn't correct, since the digitized records are on FamilySearch and are available.
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