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How can I request a record be digitized? (many are still film only)

Hi,
I'd like to request that a certain record that is currently only available on film be added to your list for digitization. Can you tell me how I can request records be digitized?
Thanks!
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    Tis gets requested quite often.

    Requests of this nature in this forum raises the awareness about specific records and pushes them up the list of films to be digitized, if they have not already been digitized.

    However...

    Access is controlled by the owner of the records through the agreement reached between FamilySearch and the owners of the originals.

    We do know that there are teams working on the agreements if they did not automatically include unlimited digital internet access.
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  • Tom

    You say, "Requests of this nature in this forum raises the awareness about specific records and pushes them up the list of films to be digitized." Unless you have evidence of this I would not be so sure. In the past, my response from FamilySearch about giving priority to something specific (admittedly relating to another issue) has been that it has its planned work already scheduled for the next 2 to 3 years, so is unable to meet such requests.

    As you know, it is impossible to get estimated times, or other specific detail, regarding its programmes from FamilySearch, so I would think it highly unlikely that we could ever know if such a request had been heeded.

    However, as the expression goes, "there's no harm in trying", so I would not wish to stop gabe snyder in following your advice.
    • There has been at least one of these discussions that I remember where an employee said that just bringing the film to their attention raises the awareness level and can shove the film up the list to be digitized.

      It isn't so much as giving a film priority over others, but more a matter of, "Oh, someone needs to be able to see this film."

      That may not provide the desired results, but at least, the level of awareness has been raised. At the present time, the priority is on those films most often requested.

      In my mind, the bigger problem is that there seems to be no plan in place to help take care of the need to view films while the collection is being digitized. And, as you said, Paul, we are not getting any kind of estimated times/details regarding the actual order or when any given film would be digitized.
    • What about the records from the Turks & Caicos Islands?
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  • Gabe,

    The film you are requesting has been cleared for digitization and is in the queue. I don't have a count of the number of films ahead of it, so I have no idea how many months (years?) you'll have to wait. If you have my luck, there will be 2.399 million rolls ahead of it and it won't be digitized until 2020. But you can take some solace in knowing that it can be digitized and it will be available much sooner than if it were being queued up today.

    Robert
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    It would help some of us feel better if there were some sort of "digitometer", prominently displayed in a place where we could easily find it, such as the "search records" page, showing the progress of the digitization project. As a matter of interest, can anyone supply the number of films already processed, as well as the total number of microfilms that exist, as of August, 2017?
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    It would be "a first" if FamilySearch did decide to share information of this nature with their patrons!
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  • I’m Frustrated! on this issue.
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    Well in that case How do we bring Films to their attention. their is a few I would like to do that to!
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  • S.,

    Official statement: FamilySearch is first scanning the microfilms that historically have been most requested and is considering how to prioritize individual patron requests.

    My opinion: It doesn't hurt to mention films here, but until a process is established, it might have no effect.

    ---Robert
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  • Thank you, Robert, for verifying someone, in FS, is paying attention - and there is an official statement. But many will wonder the source and how to get more.
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  • I’m Concerned
    The films I am looking for is in Italy 1880-1900
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  • **Digitization request**

    Robert Raymond:

    The Cochecho Massacre of 1689 is an important even in U.S. history. The genealogies of the Quaker victims (slain and taken captive), in printed works, have been turned into a farce by at least one (French Canadian) author.

    The Dover Public Library has informed me that they have "Dover Friends minutes which are supposed to include births from 1678-1949" on microfilm. As a French Canadian, I am mostly interested in the earliest reels (up to about 1715), but if an agreement can be negotiated, you probably would want to digitize the whole thing, for the sake of genealogists, as well as historians. :-)

    Marie-Pierre Lessard
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  • Marie, thanks for the suggestion.

    Are you suggesting digitization of an existing FamilySearch microfilm? If so, follow the process explained here: https://www.familysearch.org/ask/sale... Contact FamilySearch with your request using one of the methods on this page: https://www.familysearch.org/ask/help

    Are you suggesting digitization of microfilm belonging to another library? If so, we cannot help you. Ask the intellectual property owner of that microfilm.

    Are you suggesting digitization of original records, not already on microfilm? If so, I can give you guidance on how to request digitization of those records.

    ---Robert
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  • When I did a search in your collections and in the Catalog, I didn't see it, so I don't think that you have those minutes, no...

    >>Are you suggesting digitization of microfilm belonging to another library?
    It's in the Dover Public Library, yes. However, I don't know who the intellectual property owner is...

    >>Are you suggesting digitization of original records, not already on microfilm? If so, I can give you guidance on how to request digitization of those records.

    OK! I would have to ask where the original records are, but please do tell me how to make such a request!
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  • Oh, Robert!
    Can you also tell me if I can submit the resulting digitized content to your collections or catalog? If I can get permission from the intellectual property owner, of course...

    If I am going to pay a lot of money to get something like that done from abroad, it might as well be useable by others in the future. :-/ (If I lived in the U.S., I wouldn't have to consider this option. Interlibrary loans do exit. I am in Europe.)

    Marie
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  • FamilySearch is interested in requests for specific, known record collections of great genealogical value. If you don't know if the records exist, or you don't know where they are, please find them before requesting them. We do not have the resources necessary to investigate general requests such as "birth records for Washington County."

    To allow us to evaluate an opportunity for digitization of original records, provide this information to begin the process:

    - Name and address of the repository
    - Name of the record custodian
    - Title of the collection
    - Collection identification number
    - Geographic coverage of the collection
    - Date coverage
    - Size of the collection (typically, linear inches)
    - Record type and description

    FamilySearch focuses on genealogically-rich materials like church, civil, and census records. Especially valuable are register-type records like censuses that give names and vital facts and relationships for dozens of people on a single page. A single page of church records might document a half-dozen vital events with facts and relationships of perhaps as many as six relatives. A single civil record might document one or more events and mention several relatives; for example, a death record may document, birth, death, and burial and specify names of parents and informant.

    Other record types are considered on a case-by-case basis. We consider these and other factors:
    - What is the number of unique names, dates, places, and relationships per page?
    - Are those named in the records already named in FamilySearch Family Tree or our existing historical records?
    - Can those names, dates, and places be acquired more efficiently using other records?
    - Does FamilySearch have a camera and a camera operator available near the location of the repository?
    - Is that camera needed for higher priority projects?
    - Are the records at risk of destruction?
    - Will the repository give us permission to publish the records for free for anyone to access?
    - Do the laws allow the records to be published?

    If you or anyone else knows of a record collection that you think we would want, let me know.

    --- Robert
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    • Hi, Robert Here is a set of records I would love to see digitized. Here is the information:

      Repository: New York Public Library
      Title: Notes for a history of Washington County, NY; manuscript
      Location: SASB Manuscripts & Archives Rm 328
      Call No. MssCol NYGB 18065
      Coverage Washington County, New York
      Dates covered ca 1845-
      Description .4 linear foot 8 vol. 1 box
      Source MSS 2008M27

      This is a link to the manuscripts https://catalog.nypl.org/search~S1?/a...

      My Notes: These manuscripts have been indexed in The Fitch Gazetteer: An Annotated index to the manuscript History of Washington County, New York in 4 volumes by Kenneth Perry. Also, NYBG did microfilm of 7 volumes of the manuscripts. During the microfilming, a number of pages were missed.

      Thanks,
      Ann Gilchrest
    • Ann,

      Thanks for your request. It is a good example of the level of detail we need. I have passed it on to the New York strategist for consideration. I cannot comment on acquiring particular records. We have learned from the past that it sets unrealistic expectations, some that are never met.

      On a related note, everyone may be interested to know that our cameras generally travel to the records, rather than bringing the records to the camera. The camera apparatus is rather large and involved. The camera operator must uproot their lives and find new places to live. We often wait for some time before visiting a place, accumulating a list of records to be acquired there. We may never see a sufficient volume at a place to justify moving the camera there. Contract negotiations may or may never be successful. It is a complicated and lengthy process. We are experimenting with new equipment and new processes that may speed this up, but it may be at the expense of quality. These experiments are ongoing.

      ---Robert
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  • >> If you don't know if the records exist, or you don't know where they are, (...)

    This is probably a form answer, but just for the record, I do know where they are. It's a set of specific reels of microfilm at the Dover Public Library, which I specificalled named above. I didn't ask about the location and the ownership of the original records, though!

    OK, that's a great set of criteria. I can ask those questions.

    Thank you so much, Robert!
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    One last question, if I can bother you: "Dover Friends minutes which are supposed to include births from 1678-1949". This must correspond to many different reels. I expect to find original information that I haven't been able to find elsewhere in the first few decades, and I could look at a few local inhabitants trees to see when they tend to hit walls and engage in massive speculation, but it's too complex for me to figure out if the later years (e.g. 1850 to 1900, or 1900 to 1949) have such original content. I don't know the U.S. records well enough to determine something like that.

    If the original owner is willing, would would want to do the whole set of reels once you get started? Or would you prefer to keep it small and stick to early American history? I am thinking that getting permission in itself is such a milestone that it might merit getting it all done in one go, but you know what works best.
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    • While my situation is not regarding Friends' minutes, it is similar. I am trying to locate the original Presbyterian Church records for a Church that was merged into another congregation. I contacted the historical society that would normally have those records, but they reported that they did not have them. They did, however, given me a name and address of where the records might exist. Something like that may involved some of the volumes of the Friends' minutes.
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  • The questions about records of the Society of Friends, the Presbyterian Church, and more often that you might think, Washington County, New York, are perennial favorites, going back at least 50 years to the days when I was just beginning in genealogy.

    They are hard questions, because the records themselves were inconsistently kept and were not created in a way that encouraged centralization or accountability.

    It has also been noted, that whatever the Presbyterians were doing in the early days, for the most part, they weren't writing it down. And for Washington Co., NY, it is the familiar story of the "county historians", or even the "town historians", whose records may still be in someone's barn. I'm not making that up, I had correspondence involving that situation only a couple years ago.

    The institutional response always emphasizes the ultimate goals of record preservation and perfect digitization and indexing. However, in real life, achieving these goals for some collections has been elusive. There are just too many complications involving logistics, disparate requirements, wishes, or goals of diverse institutions or stake-holders.

    I say, put down your stakes ! -- and see what you can do on a less grand scale! For example, it is now entirely feasible for a dedicated amateur armed with nothing more than a little digital camera to produce perfectly legible photographs of whole volumes of medieval records, in just a few days, and without special lighting or other apparatus. The results will almost certainly be better than the old microfilms! I know this because one of my distant cousins has been doing this for years, in various archives in Europe. It is also perfectly possible for an amateur to abstract records of this sort and make indexes available -- not perfection, but a feasible way to make the records accessible.

    I'm waiting for the arrival of a new generation of archivists who have grown up with the internet and who believe that any information worth having should be on the internet. Also needed, it turns out, is a new generation of bureaucrats and bean-counters who share this idea. I hope I live long enough to meet them!
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  • Anyone listening out there???
    Requesting the Catasto Onciario Tax/land records of Italy. Southern Italy to be exact. Several communes already have a website up and the land records are already there to be viewed. Many may want the indexed. I just need access to them. The Wiki has a page ready but it and FS don't say when they will be available. I would love for then to come out before then end of 2019 but I bet they are years away which makes me frustrated.
    https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/...
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    The Wiki page linked in the post immediately above was first introduced 11 August 2014 at which time the records were "scheduled to become available".

    After five years of nonavailability I think the likelihood they will EVER become available is remote.

    The closest record I could find in the catalogue is
    Catasto Onciario di San Valentino in Abruzzo Citeriore (Pescara), 1743-1775
    https://www.familysearch.org/search/c...

    This shows the records have been digitised but are not available.

    The original microfilms appear to have only been available at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, as the catalogue record states "No circulation to family history centers". This would suggest the records are never going to be available on FamilySearch.
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  • I’m happy if they are at the family history library
    does this mean they are at the family history library? is so, you are amazing and a genius. Thank you, thank you for replying to me.
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  • The way I interpret the catalogue entry is that the microfilms in the collection "Catasto Onciario di San Valentino in Abruzzo Citeriore (Pescara), 1743-1775 " would be available at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, see
    "Will microfilm continue to be available at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City?"
    https://www.familysearch.org/ask/faq#... which says
    "Microfilm that is currently in the FHL collection that is not yet online will remain available."

    However, I suggest that you check with the Library.
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  • Films will still be available in the SL FHL till they are digitized and online. Once online then at somepoint, they get removed from the Library.
    Like Maureen said I would call before hand as some films are offsite and have to be brought in.
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  • I’m frustrated at the catalog.
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    Thanks to MaureenE. I found a few.... does anyone know if they have all of the comunes at least on microfilm? If so how do I find them?

    Phil can you find out for Please!
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    On a related note, in April I asked that film 571898 be digitized. Last year I requested film 571893, which belongs to the same collection, and it was digitized within a month. There are no reasons for restrictions on these films.

    Thank you FamilySearch for digitizing the first film, but are you able to say when the second film will be digitized?
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  • I would ask to have it digitized again since it should have been done by now. What will happen is the team that does it if it's on the list already will let the missionary know to post that in the case to you otherwise it will be done.
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    Library catalogs are not always the easiest to figure out, whether they are card-based (most have been replaced by now) or computer-based. The Family History Library is no exception.

    Family Search states this about the catalog: "Search the catalog of genealogical materials (including books, online materials, microfilm, microfiche, and publications) made available by FamilySearch online and in libraries and centers worldwide." -- The generalized statement is not completely factual and is ambiguous when it comes to where materials can be found. The catalog is essentially the catalog for the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah. Some materials are not available "online and in libraries and centers worldwide."

    It should be noted that the catalog does not use the Dewey Decimal System for cataloging its collection of published materials, but a similar system. So a call number from Salt Lake City will not match a call number from the Allen County Public Library (which contains the second largest collection of genealogical materials behind Salt Lake). Not all libraries use the same classification system.

    When you search the catalog for specific records, it takes some work and often involves referencing one or more maps, especially in areas affected by wars and when boundaries changed.

    Searching for records from a specific place:

    Note: In my experience using the catalog, entries are not repeated in its many political place divisions. For instance, the United States Federal Census Enumerations are listed only under United States. You will not find them under each state's listing.

    After you log in and from many pages on the site, the top section is divided into headings or tab titles: Family Tree - Search - Memories - Indexing. Church members will see a fifth title: Temple.

    Click on Search, and select Catalog: .

    When the Search page opens, make sure Place is selected. Enter the largest political division in the place field. Usually this will be a country:

    In this case, I was interested in a specific type of record in New Mexico (Church records). When I entered New Mexico, the place was indicated in green:

    When I clicked on Search, the following opens. Note that the next larger political division is listed as "Part of" and I can expand to include places in the current division:

    Clicking on Places within, I get a listing of the next lower political subdivisions (these happen to be counties):

    Clicking on a county, I get a listing of the records for that county. Note there are no church records at this political level. I've expanded the next lower political subdivision, which happens to be towns:

    Clicking on a town, I see two records and no further subdivisions for that town (not unusual):

    Expanding each of the two records (one of which is the record I was looking for), I see who the author is and can open the catalog page for that record:

    Now let's move to Europe and England. First, let's start with Great Britain (and we'll look for Church Records):

    When I opened the Search results for Great Britain, I did not get a Places within, but a "See Also" (Not "Part of"):

    So I search on England:

    And get a See Also (Great Britain) and "Places within":

    The expanded list. My wife's ancestors came from Dorset:

    Now I see the Part of, as well as the See Also and Places within:

    My wife knew that they lived in Bishops-Caundle:

    But that doesn't get any results:

    She thought they went to Church in Cerne Abbas and that produced results:

    Expanding the results, we see the Church Records and hopefully, we can find her family:

    Now on to Italy, and looking for tax/land records. Being not from Italy, but knowing just enough to be dangerous, I started entering Ital... in the search field and saw this:

    So because Italia was highlighted and my little (but dangerous) knowledge suggested that Italia was the language equivalent to Italy, I searched Italia. Hm. No results, but a See Italy:

    Clicking on Italy in the See Italy, I got results:

    As I said, I'm not familiar with Italy, but knew I wanted something and that appeared to be a place because of the heading on the FamilySearch Wiki: Italy, Kingdom of Napoli, Catasto Onciario. But the results did not turn up any Caatasto Onciario, so I chose Napoli from the list:

    And got:

    No Catasto Onciario. Could it be something other than a place, so I tried Google Translate with nothing useable.

    But down the FS wiki (https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/...), there is a useful (I hope) link to a genealogical word list (at https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/...):

    Looking down the list, I found catasto, which means land register:

    Well, now I know what to look for, and so rather than trying to find that place... I looked down the list of entries and saw Land Records:

    Opening the catalog page, I saw that it was a book (not microfilmed) and since this is the Family History Library catalog, it would be in Salt Lake. Except... it wasn't available. Now I don't know if "On Loan" means that the Library had loaned it to another facility or if it was being imaged, but I live 1200 miles from Salt Lake, so the next place (since this is a published book) is to check WorldCat:

    Clicking on the WorldCat link, I opened the WorldCat page and the book is available here in the Chicago area along with a total of 254 locations:

    Now I don't know if that is what is being looked for, but that's how to use the FamilySearch Catalog to look for a place and in this last case, a book.

    My apologies for this very long post, but I think someone may find it helpful.
    • Yes, I found it very helpful! Each comune (city) had to do a Catasto/land registry. In it, there is a part that is like a census. Head of the household, occupation, age, and everyone living in that house. Women in Italy go by their Maiden Name never by the husband's name. So that is also helpful. There are often brother's living there with a spouse and children, unmarried sisters, sometimes sister-in-laws, Mother-in-laws, and sometimes the Mother who is widowed. you can see nieces and nephews sometimes. Also it will tell you who they are living by so you might be able to see siblings living next door to one another. This is a huge piece to the puzzle. Being that is it from 1742-1754. People dying between 1809-1818 could be on this land registry and the dead record could give you the parents and then you can connect the dots.

      This book is not what I am looking for. If you put in under keywords Catasto Onciario you get about 10. If you put in Riveli (from the wiki it said it can be known as that too.) I get more.
      Informações Online
      Altino - Registros Civis
      Archi - Registros Civis
      Ari - catasto onciario transcricao registros civis
      Arielli - registros civis
      Atessa - registros civis
      Bomba - registros civis
      Borrello - registros civis
      Bucchianico - catasto onciario transcricao registros civis
      Casoli catasto onciario transcricao
      Celenza sul Trigno - registros civis online
      Filetto - catasto onciario
      Lettopalena - alguns sobrenomes
      Montebello sul Sangro - frazione Buonanotte registros civis
      Ortona - cemiterio
      Pennapiedimonte - catasto onciario - transcricao
      Pretoro - catasto onciario - transcricao
      Ripa Teatina - catasto onciario - transcricao
      Rosello - catasto onciario - transcricao
      Torricella Peligna - cemiterio registros catolicos registros civis registros notariais frazione di Fallascoso catasto onciario nascimentos
      https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/pt/...

      Under Keywords: Onciario
      Castellamare, Pescara, Villa del Fuoco : attraverso il catasto Onciario del 1754
      Author: Cirillo, Giovanni
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      Il catasto onciario di Roccarainola del 1748
      Author: Capolongo, Domenico; Taglialatela, Bruno
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      Catasto Onciario di San Valentino in Abruzzo Citeriore (Pescara), 1743-1775
      Author: San Valentino in Abruzzo Citeriore (Pescara). Cancelliere
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      Estratto dal catasto onciario di Pratola Peligna, 2 October 1745 : with historical notes and alphabetical indexes
      Author: Abruzzo World Club
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      Estratto del Catasto Onciario della terra di Guardiagrele : anno 1753
      Author: Abruzzo World Club
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      Extract from the catasto onciario of Pettorano sul Gizio, year 1750 : with historical notes and alphabetical indexes.
      Author: Abruzzo World Club
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      Italia, Salerno, Padula. Catasto Onciario : Comune, 1749
      Author: Padula (Salerno). Ufficio dello stato civile; Padula (Salerno). Ufficio dello stato civile

      Putting in Catasti not with an O on the end. in keywords I get the most 16 entries:
      1-16 of 16 results
      Caserta e Casali nel 1749 : catasti onciari del Regno di Napoli
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Catasti onciari del regno di Napoli : la mappa del Principato Ultra nel 1600
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Catasti onciari del regno di Napoli : Piazza Libertà di Avellino nel 1700
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Aiello nel 1742 : comune di Aiello del Sabato (AV) - parte
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Altavilla nel 1746 : comune di Altavilla Irpina (AV)
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Apice nel 1753 : comune di Apice (BN)
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Avellino nel 1745
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Castel Volturno nel 1753
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Censimento di Parma (Parma), 1769
      Author: Parma (Parma). Ufficio dello stato civile
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      Italia, Salerno, Padula. Catasto Onciario : Comune, 1749
      Author: Padula (Salerno). Ufficio dello stato civile; Padula (Salerno). Ufficio dello stato civile
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      Lapio nel 1747 : comune di Lapio (AV)
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Mugnano nel 1754 : Terra di Lavoro
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Pietra Sannita nel 1754
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Pietrastornina nel 1749 : i principi Lottiero d'Aquino, l'Abbazia di S. Maria de Juso e la chiesa Sofiana dei SS. Apostoli Giovanni e Bartolomeo
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      S. Maria Capua Vetere nel 1754
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Tavernola nel 1754 : comune di Aiello del Sabato (AV) - II parte
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo

      I then did your author trick and opened one and then clicked on the author.
      I still got 16 items but more were the land registry ones. So I got new ones thanks to your author trick.

      1-16 of 16 results Print List
      Aiello nel 1742 : comune di Aiello del Sabato (AV) - parte
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Altavilla nel 1746 : comune di Altavilla Irpina (AV)
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Apice : il castello, i feudi, le chiese
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Apice nel 1753 : comune di Apice (BN)
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Atripalda nel 1755
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Avellino nel 1745
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Caserta e Casali nel 1749 : catasti onciari del Regno di Napoli
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Castel Volturno nel 1753
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Catasti onciari del regno di Napoli : la mappa del Principato Ultra nel 1600
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Catasti onciari del regno di Napoli : Piazza Libertà di Avellino nel 1700
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Lapio nel 1747 : comune di Lapio (AV)
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Mugnano nel 1754 : Terra di Lavoro
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Pietra Sannita nel 1754
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Pietrastornina nel 1749 : i principi Lottiero d'Aquino, l'Abbazia di S. Maria de Juso e la chiesa Sofiana dei SS. Apostoli Giovanni e Bartolomeo
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      S. Maria Capua Vetere nel 1754
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo
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      Tavernola nel 1754 : comune di Aiello del Sabato (AV) - II parte
      Author: Bascetta, Arturo

      Now I did find some that were books and some that were films.
      Italia, Salerno, Padula. Catasto Onciario : Comune, 1749
      these have a camera with a key on top. Not viewable from my home.
      Catasti Onciari, v.4311, 1749
      Granite Mountain Record Vault
      International Digital
      4843651
      This film is viewable with additional restrictions This item is available on microfilm at this family history center.

      Catasti Onciari, 1749
      Granite Mountain Record Vault
      International Digital
      4843657
      This film is viewable with additional restrictions This item is available on microfilm at this family history center.

      Catasti Onciari, 1749
      Granite Mountain Record Vault
      International Digital
      4843664
      This film is viewable with additional restrictions This item is available on microfilm at this family history center.

      Catasti Onciari, 1749
      Granite Mountain Record Vault
      International Digital
      4843666
      This film is viewable with additional restrictions This item is available on microfilm at this family history center.

      Lastly, because of your tutorial (Thank you, thank you!) I have found other things not listed when I went looking myself. On several entries under subject they list land registry and taxation. When I tried taxation in Italian I didn't get anything. I may not be using the write words.

      I still did not find the land registries I was looking for. But you helped a lot. I included my searching in hopes that you might find something I missed and may find other records for me. and 2. in hopes of helping someone else to find the land registries that they need.

      I too am sorry for the long post! But you the previous one was long and it helped me so I in turn wanted to help someone else. I don't know if I should include my finds on the wiki page or not. fyi: Kingdom of Napoli is the Southern part of Italy. So instead of saying southern italy they called it the Kingdom of Napoli.
      The state Archives of Napoli has them but someone needs to take the pictures and it cost money to get them. I wanted to see which ones FS had and if they are planning to have them all or if they do but just not on the catalog yet.

      Grazie!
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