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I’m frustrated with inability to get database particulars

How to find Counties covered in "Ohio Tax Records, 1800-1850" database on beta.fs?

I selected this database to search, with three specific surnames in three specific localities. I entered the County locations in gedcom format, such as "Trumbull, Ohio, USA."

For each search I got "no results"

It is a waste of time to try random surnames and Counties where I know my targets lived before 1850. I want to search where I expect results. I do ~not~ do global searches on this site because the results are just too random - the search engine, for instance, disregards date-bracketing between birth and death.

There is no specific description of this database once it is selected as the search context.

I went to the Library search form on beta.fs and searched for the database title as listed in beta.fs. I got "no results"

I then searched for the database title omitting the dates. I got a list of several titles, none exactly matching, and there was no indication that any of them were available on beta.fs.

I searched for "Ohio Tax Records" and received a somewhat longer list of miscellaneous tax lists for various Counties. There was no indication that any of them were included in the database on beta.fs.

1) So how do I find this database in the Library catalog?
2) Is there some other way to find the specific localities included in the database?
3) Is there some peculiar indexing feature of this database that makes a search by County in gedcom format useless? Is the indexing only by Township name or by some other factor? If so, why is there no warning to the would-be seeker about how to search the particular database?

All help is appreciated.
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  • I didn't find it here, but Pilot/labs website had your answer. The database is 45% complete and finished portion is searchable there by name and/or township, county, state. Trumbell Co. had over 2, 600 hits. The tax years seem to be later in the pre 1850 timespan.
    I have ancestors that are included in Ohio tax lists of 1814 & 1825 that were not listed. The earliest lists were by "range" and "town" # because county and township lines were not permanently established yet. That might affect indexing.
    • Thank you, Anne, but the beta.fs site badly needs specific database descriptions. I don't understand why they only managed to transfer database titles, and why I can't find this in the FHL Library Catalog version available on this site. The Library Catalog access on familysearch.org should still be available while what's on beta.fs is incomplete. I can't use the pilot.labs site since they switched to the latest Flashplayer interface.
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  • Jade, you can continue to use the library catalog on familysearch.org while "beta.fs is incomplete". I'm not sure if this helps, but I located the historical records collection for "Ohio Tax Records..." and did a search where I entered "Trumbull, Ohio, USA" as the Residence Location and received numerous results. I can understand how that is still inadequate because there's no way to filter by township yet. This is something we're working on as well as the ability to search on fields that are specific to the collection you are searching in.
    • Trevor, thank you for your reply. You did what I did: located the link in Collections and did a search.

      I want to know what Counties are covered by the database, "Ohio Tax Records, 1800-1850." I want to know how to find the complete description of this database's coverage, regardless how completely or incompletely indexed/available on the beta.fs site. According to Ann Halford's reply, the extent of completeness is given on the labs.pilot site.

      I can't find the database in the FHL Catalog. The complete description of this database contents is not given for the beta.fs site's version of this database.

      I want to know what searches I can do within this database that have some possibility of relevant search results, since I have specific target folks who lived in specific places at specific times. When I know what Counties are covered for what time period, I can do the specific searches (knowing, thanks to Ann, that the complete contents of the database is not presently searchable).

      Installing a complete description of the database should be top priority, regardless whatever other refinements are being worked on. This description should at a minimum list each County for which assessment records are in the database, and what time period is covered for each County.

      This sort of information has not been provided for a great many of the beta.fs databases, and in my opinion should be the first thing provided for each one as installed on beta.fs.
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  • I’m glad to see the improvement
    Praise to whoever added the partial description (listing Counties included) to this database link. A drawback is that only after a successful search can one see the complete description for a given County in the Search Result Detail. Using the microfilm number (only in the Search Result Detail) it is possible now to find that portion of the database description in the FHL catalog.

    It would be helpful to add the full description from the FHL catalog in the database description.

    Unfortunately since the Nov. 9 update I can no longer use the site since I cannot log in (link is dead) and the overall database list is now completely covered up by black on the page https://beta.familysearch.org/s/colle....
    • frostfree12,

      Could you please take a screenshot of what you're seeing with the dead log in link and the black covering the page? Which browser version are you using? Is this Internet Explorer 6, 7, 8, 9? Are you on Windows XP, Vista or 7? You aren't the first one to see this (2nd), and we haven't been able to reproduce what you're seeing yet. Any help would be great and expedite solving the bug.

      Thanks!
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  • Trevor, thank you for asking.

    Here is what I see (in 3 pieces) at
    https://beta.familysearch.org/s/colle...

    My browser is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.8.1.20) Gecko/20081217 Firefox/2.0.0.20 -- on Win98ME, which does not support a Firefox 3.x browser.

    The word to log in is on the page but it is dead (just text).

    The page is black all the way down the page after screenshot 2 until the links at very bottom (shown in 3rd image).

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