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Printing Group Sheets/Pedigree Charts w/o LDS Ordinance information

When I need to print a group sheet or pedigree for a non-member family or friend, I have to go into my settings and change my preferences to not display temple ordinance data. I don't think this should be necessary. I suggest an option in the print dialogue that would allow me to turn LDS ordinances on or off for the print job and allow me to leave my preferences as is.
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  • That only option is to use the settings. As has been noted in a number of other discussion, including in comments by FamilySearch representatives, FamilySearch resources are extremely limited. It is a free site staffed largely by volunteers. Funds are provided by tithing contributions from members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Those funds are treated with extreme care and the "widow's mite" is always being considered when budgets are put together and the funds spent.

    I don't bother with FamilySearch's printed group sheets and pedigree charts. Instead, I use Ancestral Quest where I have a lot of print options, including producing a fully indexed book that includes images of sources and full details about the people I have included.

    Right now, the entire site is being reworked, largely because there is still existing code borrowed from previous systems that is inadequate for handling the increased capacity of the tree itself. When the section is reworked that involves printing group sheets and charts, it is possible that the developers will include the ability to produce group sheets and charts with or without ordinance informatiion, but for the present, the only option is the one you know about.

    Reworking the site is slated to take at least another year, if not more. There are some very high priority concerns, including the temple reservation and ordinance sections, which cannot scale and results in delays in presenting ordinance information after a merge.

    Another area of high concern (finally) is providing a means to correct, change, or add to existing indexes, something that has been needed for at least the last ten years.

    Both major projects have been estimated to be completed in 2019 or beyond. "The best laid plan..." adage applies, thanks to the wonderful Murphy and his law.
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    The question also arises: why do you need to print the group sheet or pedigree? FSFT is as available to them as it is to you, so why can't they just access the information online?
    • I'm creating a gift for a friend. He knows nothing about his family history, nor about any family history programs. My reasons shouldn't have anything to do with the question.
    • When we're talking about dedicating resources from Familysearch towards changing something the reason that the person wanting the change has for wanting the change is very important. It is very important because it determines whether what they are after can already be accomplished using existing resources or techniques or if what they are after is simply due to a fundamental misunderstanding of how the site itself works.

      For example there are a great many people who want to do various things using living people others have entered which is down to a fundamental misunderstanding of how the site works. There are also people who want things doing which take a great deal of time to implement and yet accomplish very little of real worth to genealogical research. There is a difference of opinion over what real worth to genealogical research is of course, but I would argue there are some things of absolutely vital importance to the site which will take a lot of resources. If that is the case then other stuff should wait, including shiny new features that Familysearch themselves may want to implement.

      When it comes to creating said gift you may also not be using the best medium to create the gift. There are a great many options in local genealogy programs to create presentations, websites and other ways of displaying the data. That tends to be an area where local genealogy programs are much, much more feature-rich than online ones. However ultimately that's your choice of course.

      I don't think what you are after has any serious chance of happening, despite how trivial you believe the implementation to be. There are things which are much more vital to the website's primary purpose like stopping GEDCOM import into FSFT via the Genealogies section of the website (due to the vast number of duplicates it introduces into the system and the consequent work to clean things up) and are equally trivial to implement (in that case just stopping availability of the workflow for the comparison and importation routine) but show no sign of happening.
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  • It would be handy to have an easy, straightforward option as you suggest. If enough people agree or suggest it, it might get on the development list.

    In the meantime, if you just have one or two sheets to print, are you aware of the other method to suppress the printing of ordinances without going to Settings?

    Click to print the family, then after the new page loads go up to the URL address bar of your browser to find this section of the address:



    Change the "true" I have underlined to "false" then reload the page, then print. Still a bit of extra work, but you stay on the page for it all.
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