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What happened to Find-A-Record? Will it be back?

All of a sudden the Find-a-Record app has disappeared from the FamilySearch App/Solutions Gallery. Will it ever come back? I love this app and it helps me to clean up my tree quickly and easily as it spots issues.
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    Find A Record, the website, looks alive and well at
    https://www.findarecord.com/en/

    Just go directly to the site. You don't need to access it through the gallery
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    Find-a-record is a useful utility for cleaning up our records in FT. It is also perhaps the best of the three utilities for finding names to take to the temple, as it does not reserve the names, but allows you to easily check your relationship to the person, then go to their ordinances tab to reserve the ordinances if it is appropriate.
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    This may be a trend to make what used to be the App Gallery into what is now called the "Solutions Gallery". Personally, some of these apps, as long as they provided people with features that are otherwise not available, were great. I'm not sure what the criteria is now, but both Puzzella and Find-a-Record, especially the latter, was a real boon to research assistance.

    Maybe someone from FamilySearch can give us an update on what is happening with respect to the now-called Solutions Gallery.
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  • On 29 August 2018, FamilySearch replaced the FamilySearch App Gallery with the FamilySearch Solutions Gallery. During this transition:

    -Some chose to stop offering their products through FamilySearch.org.
    -Some are in process of getting their apps listed in the Solutions Gallery.
    -Some may still be deciding whether to continue offering them there.

    I don't know which of the above apply to Puzzilla and Find-a-Record.

    I'd encourage you to contact the provider. Your encouragement and interest may help the app providers make a decision.
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  • I really appreciate the Find a Record as a viable tool. It's a great loss if it is not a part of FamilySearch Solutions. It is such a valuable tool for FS to loose.
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  • I also feel not up to a individual to contact the provider because few have the social influence like FS. Yet individuals can support FS to have to convince the provider to be a major part of FS,
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  • The programmers rolled out new format and BROKE EVERY APP!

    Agreed! Not just a huge step backwards, it's backward all the way to dinosaur age!

    I HATE THE NEW FORMAT!

    FOR SEVERAL REASONS!

    1. No gear to restore to the layout I prefer to work in.

    2. Sources on different page - and not even automatic open to new tab! (and from comments I received - they do not like it! Most of people I trained do NOT know how to use "right click" - or left handed - how to use left-click.)

    3. Latest changes is buried OUT OF SIGHT even on BIG monitor. (too far down the column.)

    4. Possible Duplicates too far scroll down. I usually have it at the TOP of right column.

    Meaning constant scrolling down each and every time!

    5.You BROKE the API for Findarecord.com ! Internal Server Error

    6. You BROKE the API for Ancestral Quest to use. Internal Server Error

    7. You BROKE the API for Ancestry.com to use. I had to reconnect each individual all over again - and that is just within 5 generations of direct ancestors - not to mention hundreds of cousins.

    8. You broke the API for MyHeritage to use. Internal Server Error

    9. I wonder how many of other apps' APIs as listed in "Solutions Gallery" are broke, too if this is anything like that.

    R O L L B A C K - NOOOOOOWWWW!
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  • I see Puzzilla is working but not Findarecord - still trying to log in despite the fact it worked this afternoon after rollout.

    AncestralQuest and MyHeritage APIs are now working.

    It's the other features of new format I and many others don't like. Scale up 120 percent so we can read what personal page says.
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  • I’m upset
    I am very upset that the folks at FamilySearch removed the Find-A-Record app from the App Gallery (now called the Solutions Gallery) without any warning or advance notice!!!! Find-a-Record is an excellent tool for cleaning up the FamilySearch database and for locating ordinances.

    When talking to SLC about this they indicated that the apps were removed and had to re-certify in order to be added once again to the list of apps. Re-certifying is fine, but its not cool to remove an app. without letting us know its going to be removed.

    I am a VROC missionary and will be speaking at a Stake Family History Discovery day this coming Saturday (9/15) I was going to speak about and demo Find-A-Record..... since it is so valuable. (looks like that's not going to happen unless the folks at FamilySearch do something to make a temporarily available once again..

    If you use Find-A-Record please add onto this thread, so the folks at FS know that we need it back ASAP!

    Sister Gail Junion-Metz
    VROC10 Missionary
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    • Someone, perhaps in this or another thread, reported that the developer had gone to work for a company and no longer had time to support Find a Record.

      I also appreciated the site and was sorry to see it go, but situations like this are not unusual. It isn't just FamilySearch, but almost every other company gets involved in changing their code to the extent that it becomes necessary to rewrite everything that would otherwise work fine with it.

      All it takes to understand this is to look at the changes to Microsoft Office that has taken place over the years. Every time Microsoft brought out a new version of its operating system, it also completely reworked Office.

      Most irritating is that one had to relearn how to use the product and where Microsoft had moved the commands or how they had modified them. I finally gave up and moved over the Open Office. The amount of changes in the "look and feel" has been limited while Microsoft has continued to upgrade its Office products to the point where any original look and feel has completely disappeared.

      So it goes with FamilySearch. Major rewrites of most of the site will, of necessity, require us to learn new ways of doing things and unfortunately, also means changes to the (API) application program interface that allows external products like Find a Record to work with the site.

      In this case, I don't think that the programmer wanted to abandon the product, but because of personal obligations was really left with no choice.

      That is the feeling I've been left with.
    • Thanks for the reply. Guess I am just dragging my feet. I found findarecord so helpful and it doesn't appear that family search has added any helps that would replace it. I appreciate your time to reply. Carry on I guess. :0)
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  • Sister Junion-Metz,

    I just now signed in at https://www.findarecord.com and it connected to FT without any issues. I checked the link to one of my ancestors and was able to go to his Person page in FT.
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    William, still broke - when it comes to duplicates "list of duplicates" - broke link.

    Must use forced workaround - click on PID to get there.

    However I noticed a problem with this area a week before the rollout and managed to locate the developer and left him a message. He has NOT responded since then.
    He lives in Joplin, Missouri. His name is Justin York. He hasn't been out in public since 2015.

    Read the fine print for him, see the developer is working for....
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-yo...
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  • Please bring Find a Record back .....probably the most effective program for finding and taking g names to the temple that familysearch.org has ever had ....we used ir in our Stake extensivley with great success
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    yes, Find-A-Record still exists, and you can log onto it and search it, but when you click on the "details" button it will no longer connect to FS. It works but will not find ordinances for you, but if you click on the FS number, instead of details, you can indeed find names that have research hints that need to be taken care of.... It still does not show up in the FS Solutions Gallery though, so it's not totally connected to FS in the way it used to be. bummer...
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    Gail,

    can't log in at all, it just kept trying to log in. It's been that way since last week.

    It's doing exact what Tom Huber said.

    Attention programmers, especially Justin, please fix it. Justin is owner of the Find-A-Record program and was first prize winner at Rootstech years ago.

    Very popular one because it has many features that are still not available in other apps.
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  • I’m sick about losing it
    I am so disappointed about losing Find-a-Record!!! It allowed a quick clean up my tree session if I was short on time and also highlighted where additional records and research were needed which usually led me to add new people to Family Tree. I used it a lot with people in the training and classes I teach - Please bring it back!
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  • Shelli, Find A Record is not a FamilySearch product.

    It was developed by someone not associated with FamilySearch. That developer may have lost interest in continuing to support the external application. Or, it may be a matter of employment.

    W David Samuelson did some research on the person which showed he joined a large corporation and as such, may be restricted (by terms of employment) from developing (or continuing to support) software that does not belong to that corporation. Those conditions of employment are common where intellectual property is concerned.

    I also found it useful, but I also doubt, having worked for major companies that had restrictive conditions of employment where intellectual property was involved, that we will see the application back.
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  • Tom, I found him listed as working for FamilySearch in his current Likedin and living in Joplin, MO.

    Need to get address so send him letter to encourage him to bring it up to date since it's his baby.
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  • This might help do part of what Find A Record was so good at doing:

    If you click on temple on FamilyTree app on your phone or ipad, you will see a green button called “Ordinances Ready”. My understanding is that it searches who you are related to and will give you someone connected to your tree who needs whichever ordinance you choose. And it will only give you people without duplicates although it does pull from your reserve list first. It is my understanding that it is only available on the app and not on the desktop version at present. (You may need to check how that person is related as it is has no way of knowing whether the relationship is correct.)
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  • Cherie, what good it is if I don't use phone or ipad? (don't even own phone).

    Find A Record can do desktop hunt - until this FT upgrade rendered it not working.
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    FamilySearch screwed us all over, and good.

    1) Puzilla now shows this message: Due to recent changes in FamilyTree, for now, Puzzilla ancestor charts are showing all parent relationships, not just the preferred relationship selected in FamilyTree. FamilyTree is presently unable to communicate preferred ancestor settings to Puzzilla. We are working with FamilySearch to re-enable showing only preferred parent relationships.

    2) Find-A-Record at https://www.findarecord.com/ shows this:


    I can't imagine how beneficial their API overhaul would have had to be, to warrant losing such great apps.
    FSFT needs to take on a better "do what's easy for our apps to maintain" attitude, when it comes to wholesale changes.
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  • I'm so sorry we've lost Findarecord!! We used it a lot helping youth find family names for the temple. They rotate through our FHC on a couple of evenings before the temple trip and we have used Findarecord extensively while at the same time teaching them a little research and some sourcing. It's going to be WAY more time consuming now to help each of them without Findarecord, and we only have about 20-30 minutes with each person.
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  • There are several features in this app I would like to see incorporated into FSFT.

    The app for finding ones needing temple ordinances is not as effective as the one in Find-a-record, even

    The other method is going to an ancestor and turn down to descendant chart or go pedigree, both are very onerous hunting for them.
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  • Linda, I miss Findarecord too, but if you sign in as a Helper, you can use the Ordinances Ready feature in the Family Tree app to find ordinances that your patron can do in a single trip to the temple. I find it fast and easy to use.
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  • I’m frustrated
    Ordinances Ready feature is NOT even close to being as useful as Findarecord was. WHY, do they make things more difficult when if they just leave things alone it makes teaching others so much easier.??!!
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    Find a Record is not tied to FamilySearch, except through the API. In order to accommodate necessary changes in FamilySearch, the API has to be adjusted. An upcoming change was announced to all support persons for the external applications and as such, many have already updated their software to accommodate the changes.

    Now, and this is not good news. Oracle has had courts favor them in copyrighting the API involved with the Android operating system (from Google). There is a lot going on with this battle, so I'm not going to try to decipher it. A good place to start is with the issue at https://www.programmableweb.com/news/... which is almost a year old. How this will progress from here is anyone's guess, but if Oracle's position is upheld, then anyone who uses Java-based APIs (and no, I don't know if that is the case with FamilySearch or not) could be facing some serious setbacks.

    Getting back to the issue with Find a Record. The developer has moved on. Maybe someone with programming skills can contact that person and "take over" the job of bringing Find a Record back to life and maintain it whenever newer technology used by FamilySearch (and some of FamilySearch's code was from the previous system) is implemented.

    That is not a task I want to tackle...
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  • PLEASE bring FindARecord back.. I love the program. It was so useful and I used it daily.
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  • This reply was removed on 2019-05-13.
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  • You can use roots magic you will need a windows or mac computer.
    they have tutorials on their website if you want to learn how to use it.
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