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Hi, new to Fotomoto and still not clear about...

I am using Juicebox and it seems to be working – when I click on a photo it then shows up in the Fotomoto admin (sometimes?) to the default for sale area, but anyway,

Since they don’t show up in the admin until after someone clicks on the photo (correct?), how do I assign a gallery to the share-only collection.

For example, I may want one gallery to have all the image be for sale, and a different gallery to have all the image be share-only.

Since they only seem to show up after the fact when someone clicks on the image I don’t get how to set this ahead of time. Is them some code or something that can be inserted into the respective gallery somewhere I am missing.

And not sure why all the photos I clicked on don’t show up in the admin, only some, when the size is larger than the min size set in the admin area.

If you can shine some light on this. Thank you, Em

PS as an aside comment. Put me in for the responsive Fotomoto for mobile and smaller screens. My site is responsive and so are the images so hope this comes soon unless it has already and I don't know it:-)
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  • Hi brokerem,

    Thanks for the post.

    First thing to check when you're either missing Fotomoto Buy Buttons or images aren't appearing in the Dashboard is this article: Missing the Fotomoto Buy Buttons?.

    That said, Fotomoto can be implemented in one of two ways on a website:

    1. "Automatic" mode that most of our users use, where the script automatically grabs images off the web page that contains it and adds them to the Fotomoto Dashboard

    or

    2 "API mode" that developers might use, where the image is "checked in" to the Dashboard as dictated by the author of the service. Some of our partner services use "API mode" and only check the images in after "Buy" is clicked.

    That should answer your question, but if not, please email us the URL for a page that contains an example of an image not showing up in the Dashboard and specify which image it is. I'll be happy to look in to the details and let you know what's happening.

    Thanks and kind regards,
    Derek
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  • Thank you Derek for the reply. That gives me a place to start.

    Q. when you say "API mode" that developers might use, where the image is "checked in" to the Dashboard as dictated by the author of the service..."

    Would that mean, or be an example, of how say, Juicebox handles it. In other words, would the API developer in my test galleries using Juicebox be Juicebox? Or if I used Redrex, they would be the API mode developer?

    I notice there is only a checkout cart image button to launch Fotomoto with Juicebox? as I couldn't get the toolbar verbiage layout style like in the admin to show on top or bottom of my gallery image (not the thumbnail). But the cart icon does launch the Fotomoto app, albeit with not all the images showing in my admin as already talked about.

    B) I assume by "Automatic" mode I can control that buy putting your script on a web page or pages? Do I need the script on every page I want to have Fotomoto grab the pictures automatically or a pro account? Guess I am asking for the definition of Automatic mode...

    C) And do I understand correctly that I can just set up Fotomoto and not use a service like Juicebox as long as I put the script code on the respective web page where I want to have images with the buy button?

    Clarification: Do I also need the script on a web page if the page only has a gallery using third party like Juicebox? Meaning Juicebox forgoes the need to also include the script on the respective gallery page?

    Seems like there are several ways, and many third partys, that I can go with. I may end up doing both? Can I for example, have Juicebox galleries on some pages, and have other pages with just your script and my own images, not using a third party. It sounds like I can do this...

    I have my own responsive web site so seems to allow me some options.

    Sorry for all my questions. I did spend hours reading and testing but wanted to cut to the chase on a few things here...

    Just checking, Em
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  • Derek (Official Rep) October 01, 2014 08:12
    Hi Em,

    Thanks for your questions. In general we only recommend API mode for developers, and we normally don't even mention this mode to non-developers as "automatic" mode usually suits most people's needs. That said, here are the answers to your questions:

    Yes - Juicebox uses Fotomoto in API mode, and Redrex does not.

    As for layout, you can adjust the placement of the Buy Buttons in "automatic" mode using CSS as explained in Customizing the Buy Buttons. In API mode, the links are manually placed wherever desired.

    B) Automatic mode picks up the images on a page as you'd expect. The Fotomoto Script would need to be on every page where you want to sell images. In a template-driven system, it usually just gets placed in a common file, for example in the footer.

    C) Correct - you can use Fotomoto on most any non-Flash website and it works with regular image tags. If the site uses a JavaScript library for the image gallery, it needs to be library that Fotomoto works with.

    D) If you use Juicebox or another service where Fotomoto is integrated, they usually put the script in for you.

    E) You could use Fotomoto in both API and automatic modes on the same website, but it sounds unnecessarily complex to do this. If you need to do this, check Getting Started with the Fotomoto API for instructions on how to put the script in API mode and note you'd use the same store ID in the script.

    In closing, I would highly suggest just using automatic mode to keep things simple. There is not much need to use the API unless you need to do a more advanced integration.

    I hope that helps and kind regards,
    Derek
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  • Hi Derek, excellent reply. THANKS!!!

    I am not personally going to dip into any API coding... just wondered the definition in relation to Juicebox, etc.

    I will ask Juicebox if they “Check-in images on page load" or if I can do that in there setting, since right now it seems like that only happens when the image is clicked on and not all at once.

    I am also looking at the TTG that works with Lightroom and they actually talk about a button I can click to control if I want to check them in on page load or just when clicked on. They do say that once they are checked in on page load (if I use that option) then good idea to go and turn it off so the consumer doesn't have to wait for all the files to check in each time the page is visited which slows things down. (may be more work initially, but if I want to arrange my photo collections in the Fotomoto Admin all at once then perhaps worth it). But at least this way I can get ALL the images in my Fotomoto admin and put them in the collections I want them in.

    You probably know this already:-) But now I just need to find out if Juicebox has something similar or how to do this in their gallery.

    Em
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  • Derek (Official Rep) October 02, 2014 08:38
    You're very welcome Em - I'm glad to help.

    With regard to Juicebox, it's their call on how they want to implement Fotomoto, but I'm sure they'd be interested to know what would make their service work better for your needs, so you might want to let them know regardless.

    Last, TTG is a great solution if you're using Lightroom - I'd recommend them on several levels, and note they're very familiar with Fotomoto and have been a long-time partner.

    I hope that helps and kind regards,
    Derek
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