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White borders to aid mounting...

This is not a request or a complaint, I realise how Fotomoto works and that if I want a border around my image it must be part of the image... :0)

This is a question for fellow photographers using the Fotomoto service. I was thinking of adding white borders to my prints, mainly because I know when mounting my own prints it is impossible to position the mount without cropping the image if there is no border. But - if I add a border then my actual image size will be smaller than the size advertised in the Fotomoto widget, as I realise the printer will print the file as is on the size of paper requested. So - I was just wondering what do others do?

Do you find customers get their prints custom framed, in which case the mount aperture will be cut to the required size - or do they get standard sized mounts and frames?
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  • Well, I'm a photographer using Fotomoto too, so I'll throw in my $.02: I think adding borders is a good idea as it's easier for framers to mount then put matting over the white edge. The border can be trimmed off after mounting if desired.

    Hope the input helps and kind regards,
    Derek
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  • Thanks Derek, that was my thought. I have been looking at local framing services and they seem to recommend a good size mount (you call it the matting I think over that side of the pond?) maybe 70mm all round except bottom 75mm if you have say a 30x45cm print. This does look nice and is mentioned for exhibition/gallery mounting as really showing of the artwork! The next problem is do you mount the matting aperture to the pic or to the border? I think it looks fine either way (pic uploaded) :0)

    I have all my pics at 3x2 ratio because I prefer it, but I notice standard sized frames and mounts are all over the place, not 4x3 either really - so I think custom mounting/framing is the only option. I will be including text on my about page (there is a bit already) to add recommended mount and aperture sizes and so on... I really want to encourage prints, I know how wonderful they look framed and mounted on the wall! :0)

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  • I typically go with a .5" (1.27mm) border, which gives the framer enough surface to place the matting over the edge of the photo while still allowing the border to show if desired, but of course you can go with a larger border if desired.

    I'd encourage framing as well, and even if it's not a custom-size frame, customers can always go with the next standard size up and fill the extra space with matting.

    Also, a good local framer is a great resource to help walk you through the options & decisions.

    Again hope that helps!
    Derek
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  • Well I have tried this now and Lightroom 3 really cocks up! I have just tried to add a 36 point (1/2") border to a 2/3 ratio file and print at 45x30cm in the Print module (because you can't add borders to images any other way in Lightroom) and it shows on screen that the image is resized down by the amount of the border with a tiny bit of cropping as a result of ratio change. However, when you print the image to file it is severely cropped by the extent of the border and not shrunk to fit within the border at all!! Bad one Adobe! Good job I actually tried it to see!

    There is another way and that also is only available in the Print module, and that is to resize the 'cell' your image is in within the page layout - but that results in more margin at the side than the top and bottom, due to ratio aspect staying the same of course on resizing! So no can do in Lightroom sadly! It seems there is no way to include a border in a Lightroom file without cropping or altering the ratio of the file before hand to compensate! I now realise why so many folk are asking for a 'print' option that adds a border to what ever file we upload by increasing the canvas size - I get it now :-/
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  • Cancel that!! Some hours later after trying all sorts with adding backgrounds in other packages etc I have it! You just make a page size in Lightroom that is 1/2inch bigger in each direction than you actually want (in this case 18.5"x12.5") then position a cell within that page that is exactly the size you want (in this case 18"x12") - now the increase in each direction is the same. Obviously the ratio goes out, but presumably the printer isn't worried about that as he will just print what he gets to the size ordered and trim any excess?
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  • OK, cancelled =)

    We simply print the image as provided in the file. We only trim 'excess' white space as described in this Print Size Options article.
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