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New bookmarks private to the current profile only, as an option?

Hi! When I add a new bookmark, it is available in all profiles by default. I would love an option to make it private to the current profile, this is, leave new work bookmarks only in the work profile, and so on. I understand that this could be made in several ways:

- As a global foxmarks option, a tick box "Make new bookmarks specific for the current profile by default", or
- As an individual question, each time a new profile is added (this might be annoying).
- Ask when a new sync is made (but should be instantaneous when auto sync is enabled).

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  • I’m liking where you're going with this
    You read our minds enriquevagu! We're thinking about this as a useful feature and considering building it. Your feedback definitely helps us in making a decision. Thank you for writing in with the suggestion!
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  • I’m gratified
    Rushing, so this prob isn't the best spot, but my use need is related / different: I want to sync passwords with all profiles on this one box, leaving bookmarks and extensions unique / distinct (which is the reason for having multiple profiles).

    Can't stay / must rush / BBL.
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  • I’m hopeful
    I like this idea. It would be helpful to have an option to force new items in the main "Bookmarks Menu" to only be added to the current profile. Essentially, I'd like to keep the entries main "Bookmarks Menu" separate for each profile, and have a "Shared" folder common across all profiles. I realize this is currently possible by keeping everything in separate folders for different profiles, but that clutters up the side-tab. Thanks for considering!
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  • I’m frustrated
    This certainly would get my vote. I have just started using the foxmarks profile feature and it is very frustrating having to log back into the foxmarks website every time to deselect the newly added bookmarks in my Work profile. (Especially those added to the general "Bookmarks Menu"). If I dont do this then they appear at the next sync in my Home profile, at home!

    Until I see this feature I am going to stop syncing my Work firefox bookmarks.
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  • Without this feature I think there is some privacy issue, say I bookmark a movie to watch at home late at night, what happens if the admin at work logs in my account and looks at my bookmarks out of curiosity?
    In addition, I would like to be able to have a folder (say Todo List) on all my profiles, but with different content.
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  • I like the idea. Just want to comment on bentrem's comment: I would like the same behavior for both bookmarks and password - work password are added to work passwords, home passwords are added to home passwords only. I am also assuming here, that I can manually override this if I chose to by going to my.foxmarks.com, and checking or unchecking whatever I do not want to have synced - which is the exact behavior that exists now.
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  • We were just discussing this feature request and someone pointed out that we've not explicitly mentioned in this topic that, when adding a new bookmark, you need only add it to a specific folder in order to ensure that it's assigned to only that Sync Profile.

    Thus, I have my "Home-only" folder. If I add a bookmark to the root bookmark menu area, it's automatically available to all profiles. If I add the bookmark to my Home-only folder, then that bookmark is only available in my Home profile.

    Since this allows folks to quickly and easily assign bookmarks while they're being added (if you use the Ctrl-D option to add bookmarks, you can assign a folder at that point), it seems to me this is the better way to go. Otherwise you end up unable to easily add bookmarks to all Sync Profiles in one go, for example.

    Let us know what you think!
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    I think that misses the point of profiles. If I frequently want to add bookmarks to all profiles then do I really need profiles?

    The default behavior of a feature should be the rule not the exception. If I'm using profiles and add a bookmark to a profile it should only go in that profile unless I put it in a folder that I've already designated as available in all profiles, hence the exception to get a bookmark available to all profiles.

    So, instead of having a "Home-only" folder, which honestly is just kludgy and means everyone would have to re-organize their bookmarks structure just use existing capabilities and have a "shared" folder which is available in all profiles and that way people aren't forced to change their bookmarks and the profile feature works as most people would expect.

    Seems simple, am I missing something?

    -Paul
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  • Thanks for the feedback! The initial design of the Sync Profiles feature was based on the need to prevent certain bookmarks from being shared across all computers. The use case is:

    I have 100 bookmarks, but 15 of them are inappropriate for my kids' computer, and another 15 are game sites that I don't want on my work computer (too many distractions at work already!). So I have 70 bookmarks that are synchronized to all computers, and then the other 15+15 bookmarks are stored in specific folders that are excluded from my kids' and work profile, respectively.

    Keep in mind I'm not disagreeing with anyone here--the main issue is usability, and you're all saying that it needs to be easier to use, so we definitely want to make improvements. It's just challenging to make the switchover, so we want to make sure we understand what the ideal situation is.

    Paul: I'm curious, how many bookmarks do you have that are shared across all Sync Profiles? From your description, I wonder if you wouldn't be better served by multiple Foxmarks accounts.
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    • I'll try to state my reasoning in a different way.
      First of all, I don't want to create different accounts, because I'd need to remember different credentials and because your service allows different profiles (even if, not only in my opinion, they are managed in a wrong way). I mean, I wouldn't install N times an OS to create N accounts if it's multi-user :).
      In my opinion, profiles should be useful, by default, to separate bookmarks, not to share them across the profiles themselves. When I said that I share zero bookmarks across different profiles I meant that the bookmarks which are in common are really a few part. Moreover, synchronizing a profile is counterintuitive (I'd be better to say misleading) because it updates all the profiles.
    • So, this concept says like this: if your kids add some bookmarks, it appears at your work profile, unless kids add it to specif folder?
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  • We all like Foxmarks and think it is a great application to have, that is why we would like to see it improve.
    I have 3 computers at work, 2 at lab and 2 at home. Most of my bookmarks (about 100) are actually in my work computer. I need to keep track of many documents at one point then after reading them I may delete the bookmark directory or reorganize it to another subfolder or rename it. I make new bookmark folders and add a bunch of bookmarks to them. I like to choose a name for my bookmarks folders that is more descriptive, I may change the name later.
    With current behavior I have to go to My Foxmarks each time and have newly added bookmarks hide for the profiles that are unrelated.
    In addition, because of the current behavior I do not feel comfortable to use Foxmarks at home while it could be very useful among those 2 computer.
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  • Thanks for your reply!
    The problem with general "Work" folder is that I normally put my bookmarks inside specialized folders and place them on my bookmark toolbar. For example I have a "C++" folder on my bookmark toolbar than has a couple of links to useful websites for programming. Or in another folder I may follow the topics I have asked questions regarding programming AVRs. So I may create or delete or rename these bookmark folders but want to keep one version for all computers at work.
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  • Way cool, thanks for the input, everyone. It will probably take us a while to find the right way to re-architecture this in a backward-compatible way, but it's definitely on our list to fix up.

    Thanks!
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  • I thought profiles were absolutely independent from each other by default!
    It's absurd that if I add a bookmark to a profile, it will be added to the other ones! The same for all the other things I can do with this plugin.
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  • Hi, can tit be done by adding a pull-down option saying:
    all profiles
    profile "work"
    profile "home"
    profile "......"
    create new profile and add this bookmark

    Or similar?

    f course, this opens the question of "how to do it..." Especially if someone uses "add bookmark here", others uses "add bookmark here 2" extension, and some people don't use them at all.

    But - I think it won't hurt saying this... :)
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  • Any updates on this?
    It's really frustrating. I just found a bunch of porn sites that just appeared on my work folder!

    THIS IS NOT GOOD! Sometimes I go days bookmarking anywhere from 5 to 12 bookmarks daily. I have thousands of bookmarks saved up since 2001. I never really got around to organizing them completely, though I've attempted. But they are like my "treasures." :)
    Right now I have around a few hundred bookmarks, and that's just half a year, I still haven't uploaded my MAIN bookmark folder.

    I hope using something like this will help me.

    But come on, it is absurd for someone to be at home bookmarking or sorts of crazy things and have them automatically show up at work!
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  • Also, I see a problem here. At work, I use primarily my toolbar because it keeps everything organized.

    I have a folder on my toolbar named "bookmarks" and next to it about 5-6 sites that I regularly use for work. "Bookmarks" is just for random things that I find while surfing or sites that I like to go to on my break, like YouTube.

    But the problem is, it seems like XMarks tries to sync all the toolbars as one toolbar, instead of having separate toolbars per profile. I think that's where the problem lies.
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    Any update with this? There are some very serious legal issues related to intellectual property when bookmarks show up in the wrong place. Bookmarks that are sync'd in an undesired location will be backed up in company servers, becoming a permanent record that can be used as evidence of work performed with company property/time. This is a huge issue. The idea of a 'work' folder and a 'home' folder isn't ideal for several reasons (most outlined in the various posts above). But most importantly, it is too easy to make a mistake with potentially dangerous consequences.

    At a minimum, there needs to be an option for a profile to not automatically add every new folder/bookmark to its sync list. For some profiles I need to make sure that only those folders/bookmarks that I explicitly add are sync'd. This option should be relatively simple to implement and I respectfully request that it be added as soon as possible. The final method of addressing this issue can still be debated but a stop-gap is sorely needed.
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  • I agree that this needs to be addressed. My biggest concern is from the toolbar folder. You would think that it would NOT sync 'top level' bookmarks by default. Annoying.
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  • Any updates? It is now almost a year with no change!
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  • I agree something is needed.

    My personal preference would be that when a browser is added or a profile is selected for a browser session, the initial import/merge should remain unchanged.

    Assume we are now discussing a user who has linked up at least one browser to a sync profile. Now, when new top-level (bookmarks menu top and bookmarks toolbar top) bookmarks and/or bookmark folders are added by a non-profiled browser, a user configuration option setting EITHER in the Xmarks settings (to choose based on individual browser) OR on the Xmarks Website (to choose based on Xmarks login account) should decide whether they are added by default to no individual profiles or all other profiles. (Expanding further on the web option could of course allow for fine-grained behavior by profile, but is very unlikely to break even with ROI.)

    When new top-level bookmarks are added from a profiled browser, they should by default (or by user configuration option settings as above) be associated only to that profile which initially added it. It is easy enough for the user who has taken advantage of these new configuration setting options to add it to another browser which is using a different profile by checking the bookmark or folder in the Manage Sync Profiles dialog when said user notices that there is a shortcut or folder they are missing, and in the case of a folder only needs to be done once and future bookmarks added to that folder will still be synced automatically. If the user has not changed the new configuration option from the default, then top-level bookmarks and folders will continue to be propagated to all browsers and profiles by default as they are now.

    P.S.: Sorry for the length of this diatribe, I am a Programmer Analyst and when I start thinking about new feature implementations. . .
    • I mostly agree Ryan, but I think the configuration option for top-level bookmarks needs to be profile specific. That is, I want inclusive profiles that always get all top-level bookmarks, and exclusive profiles to which I have to manually add top-level bookmarks. For example, a personal profile that always has everything, and a work profile that only has exactly what I specify. Always having to log in to the Xmarks website to share bookmarks across profiles would quickly become a major PTA. Of course, at this point I would take almost anything as an improvement. Does anybody from Xmarks want to give us an update?
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  • This is a feature I'd really like to see...I assumed that when I selected a profile it would place the bookmarks into the my.foxmarks.com and into the profile I selected, but not into any custom profiles...I was sadly disappointed with some frustrating results. Hoping this feature is implemented really soon.
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  • I’m frustrated
    More than a year without any response! I think they are putting their efforts to develop more star/rating/"data mining" on user-base bookmarks rather than user requests.
    Does anyone know another solution that ONLY syncs bookmarks with a profile feature?
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  • I’m frustrated
    I use two bookmark profiles. Home profile at home and work profile at work. When I add a new folder for bookmarks and add some new bookmarks in it at home I get these bookmarks added at work too. I think thatby default any bookmarks added using some profile should be added to that profile only so one only gets these bookmarks when no profile or the profile that was used to add the bookmark is chosen.

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Bookmarks appear in all profiles despite the fact they were added using one actual profile.
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  • I’m only slightly bothered
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    It would be great (IMO) if Xmarks would sync a bookmark made on a computer that is tied to a particular profile, only to that particular profile. For example, I bookmark something on a 'Work' profile, I don't want to have to go into Xmarks, and uncheck it from the 'Home' profile as well. It should do that automatically.

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Add Bookmarks Automatically to Profiles.
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  • I'm going to try to merge other topics into this topic to get a better sense of how popular this feature is, so if you see any new replies that seem out of sequence, they're probably from other topics.

    As for an update, it's still the same--we have many other features with more people requesting them than in this topic, so this feature isn't at the top of our implementation list just now. It's something we'd like to get to at some point, but it requires software changes on the server and in each of the browser extensions we support, so is more complicated than adding new features.

    Add to that the fact that the proper implementation isn't completely straightforward (even among y'all you seem to disagree on the right interface), and it'll take a while to suss it out.

    It's still on our list, though; we're not ignoring you, we're just bogged down with keeping things running.
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    When you are in a specific profile, and you add new bookmarks, it will add those bookmarks to all profiles instead of just the one you are working in. When you add a lot of bookmarks you will have to go to all your profiles and disable them were you don't need them.
    You should expect to have at least the option to add new bookmarks only to the currect active profile.

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    Adding new booksmarks to a specific profile.
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  • I’m hopping you consider my suggestion
    When we add a new bookmark, it should be possible to choose to witch profile. For example, i could be at home using "home" profile, but want to add a bookmark to my "work" profile. I believe now every new bookmark is added to every profile. Isn't that true?

    After every new bookmark i have to go to "manage sync profiles". :-((

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  • I’m sad
    It seems that Profiles don't honor the sync/share only these folders rule.
    I setup a profile to sync only one folder and nothing else, but the profile keeps getting any new bookmarks I add (from the parent/default profile) to the root of the bookmarks.
    So I constantly need to get in there and uncheck root bookmarks that I don't want to sync with that profile.

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  • I’m frustrated
    I've just started using Xmarks. I think the basic profile model is counter-intuitive. What I expected was a *distinct* set of bookmarks for each profile. That's what I want because the set of bookmarks for home is distinct from that of work for example. There may be some overlap.

    In practice, this means I can add bookmarks to each profile and synchronise each profile independently. This is the model used by Maxthon.

    The Xmarks model means that when I add a bookmark that I just want in one profile, regardless of which profile I am using, I have to go into the set up and deselect it from the profiles I don't want it in and select it in the profile I do want.

    With the Maxthon model I have no such extra effort.

    I do realise (and I am about to try it) is that I can create different Xmarks logins for each computer. This may not be possible and is not as convenient as the Maxthon model.

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Profiles should be managed so that each is seen as a distinct bookmark set..
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  • I’m frustrated
    The way profiles are setup right now is completely useless. What is the point of even having a profile if every new link gets added to all of them? I can't even imagine why I would want that. They should be set so that new links get added only to the chosen profile. I can't believe we are even discussing this.
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    • @Sean - I'm not "frustrate" so much as out of love ... the way I am with Delicio.us (after their extension added each and ever word from bookmark comments as tags ... ruined a lotta years of good work, that.)
      How about this: if I'm using Profile Ben, then that's where b'marks go. *D'uhh!* and if I'm using Bernie ... likewise. Even Bernard ... or heck, Bernadette if I were to go that way.
      I don't understand why the confound has ever existed: Profile A is != Profile M.
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    I’m frustrated
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    I agree, the profiles have the potential to be a really killer feature, but it just hasn't quite been implemented properly. Every time I add a bookmark, I have to go into the other profile and unselect it.
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  • I’m hoping this gets fixed.
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    Xmarks should maintain the profile selection when adding new bookmarks. For example, if I bookmark something while using the 'home', it should not automatically sync to my 'work' profile.

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  • I like this idea... instead of creating multiple accounts for xmarks for keeping online synced bookmarks, this way it can have private accounts in form of profiles. single password for all, but different private profiles.
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  • I’m frustrated
    Here's an idea.

    I have a work profile, and a home profile. Great! Fantastic! Excellent! This is awesome and it's useable.
    Why, then, are bookmarks automatically added on both profiles? This makes very little sense to me..
    I love Xmarks, what it does and how it functions.. but this is just plain weird to me.
    Maybe make it a setting? If it's already a setting and I'm being a tool about this, please tell me where I can change it.

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  • For the life of me I don't understand why this hasn't been addressed. FireFox has new new bookmark tool and from what I've been told by them it will have this feature soon.
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  • I've dropped xmarks for firesync, does the same job + sync tabs too.
    profiles would be a good value feature, if it was well employed :)
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  • Yup, this is insane that this obvious flaw in the Profiles feature has been ignored, I'm going to start looking into alternatives to xmarks, I'll stay subscribed to this thread in the hope that it's fixed, but the clock is ticking, if I find something that works better, I'll switch altogether.
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  • I’m kinda tired of this
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    Context: I've been doing systems maintenance, logistics support (including MIL-SPEC tech_docs) since 1972, for such as Motorola, NORAD/SAC ... in broadcast environments, R&D settings ... and on and on.

    I'm not saying the XMarks crew are a buncha jerks ... not at all. From the good work they've done that's evidently not the case.
    But somewhere along the line "obvious" is ignored, so "insane" becomes the topic.

    To be political for a moment: I was on the hippie bus with folk who later became "yuppies" ... they are my cohort. I didn't like them then, I haven't liked them over the intervening 4 decades, and I don't like them now. What I don't like most of all is their tradition of 80/20 ... picking the "low hanging fruit" ... doing the easy stuff that pays off fast (i.e. 20% of the effort creates 80% impression of success).
    Our world is crashing (think BP and #OilKatrina) because of that attitude.

    The XMarks crew will get good karma by chilling their jets for a moment or 7, then rolling up their sleeves and grabbing hold of this design snag.

    Who knows ... maybe someday good karma will matter.

    w/respect
    --@bentrem
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  • One year later and nothing?

    Fuck this, I'm switching to something else.
    • Lateral: I was an early adopter with Twitter. At some point I noticed that none of my stuff shows up in Search results, not even HashTags. Using GetSatisfaction (not just me, 100s of others) I told them about it ... precisely 0.00 response.
      GS is a nice system but too often it's like Gov2.0: a way of getting people to think someone's listening when they ain't. *sigh*
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  • Bentrem, I know what you mean. I stopped using Twitter over a year ago because of that.
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  • I’m Thrilled
    I am thrilled to get firefox sync, and as soon as they add a profile feature I am done with Xmarks! They can silently add more "Site Tags and Ratings", "Site Info" and "Smarter Search" for the gullible who wants his data be shared with them.
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  • So, now what?!?

    1) Xmarks sync servers will be closed on Jan 2011
    2) There seems to be no alternative for Xmarks except FireSync (which is still in beta, imho!).
    3) One year passed and, unfortunately, there is still no solution for profiling problem in Xmarks. What a shame!!! I'm not a programming guru but even thinking logically this problem seems sooooooo easy to solve... I mean, what we need is just ability to sync different bookmarks between different profiles - work, home, etc. Is it THAT difficult?!? Or, it's because Xmarks is going to leave the scene?!?

    Thanks!

    PS: Currently, sticked to FireSync but it's not comparable to Xmarks. Awaiting for upgrades...
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  • Ok, now Xmarks is bought by LastPass.com - will this profiling issue be solved? Is their any progress in this direction?

    Thanks!
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