Xmarks for Safari + OS X Mavericks

Hi, I'm trying to use Xmarks for Safari in all-new Mac OS X Mavericks. I had Xmarks for Safari turned off few months ago because I used Chrome only, but now I'd like to try out Safari again. So I turned it on in System preferences, but when I hit Synchronize Now, I get a message: "Xmarks for Safari: Sync is Turned Off. You have disabled syncing on this computer. Open iSync, go to 'File > Preferences', and enable sync."

Of course there's no such thing like iSync for maybe three years now... Could you please provide me a hint on how to enable the sync now? Or is there any other problem with Mavericks?

Thanks a lot!
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  • New prebuild:
    https://rodan.lastpass.com/dev/xmarks...

    This one addresses an issue for fresh installs of safari, in which case there will be no bookmarks.plist. If you've already got 2.0.4 up and running, no need to update.
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  • I’m feeling neutral.
    Hello: I posted a ticket (#1180006) regarding being unable to upload bookmarks from Safari into Xmarks. Does version 2.0.4 add the ability to upload your entire Safari bookmarks to Xmarks, or is uploading still limited to Safari's "Favorites Bar"?
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  • I was sent a link to version 2.0.4 about a week ago after starting a ticket on the Safari issue. That version seemed to work off and on, although when you went from Safari to Firefox, either on the same machine (iMac OSX Lion) or a PC machine (Windows 7) things tended to get funny and I would need to upload my saved bookmarks to the server. Then it worked again, if only for a few sessions. Version 2.0.5 seemed to really screw things up and I uninstalled it on the iMac and ended up uploading my saved bookmarks to the server from the PC (version 2.0.5 would delete all the Safari bookmarks, then when you started Firefox Xmarks would delete all the Firefox bookmarks so that both browsers were sync, meaning NO BOOKMARKS ! ! !).
    • Hmm, you should attach a debug report to a ticket - this should not happen. However, I should also note that, in addition to the server-side backups, xmarks for safari saves a copy of your local safari bookmarks, once per day (if there is a sync that day) for 30 days, in ~/Library/Xmarks/backups/ -- so your original bookmarks may be around on the filesystem. To restore them is as yet a manual process: you need to uncompress and copy the bookmarks back over the Safari bookmarks, and then reset xmarks. From the command line you can do:

      $ gzcat ~/Library/Xmarks/backups/whatever.gz \
      > ~/Library/Safari/Bookmarks.plist && \
      rm ~/Library/Xmarks/baseline.json

      In the future we plan to make this UI accessible and a feature of the other plugins.
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  • Hi all, 2.0.5 and 2.0.6 released yesterday which is 2.0.4 plus fixes for people with fresh Safari installations and those running on older versions of OS X.

    And now for a note about which bookmarks are synced to Xmarks. Some people have mentioned that only "Favorites Bar" is synced. Historically, Safari had "BookmarksBar" and "BookmarksMenu" folders -- this is their internal name (with no spaces), but in the UI it would render these with nicer names in the appropriate language. In Safari 7, "BookmarksBar" renders as "Favorites Bar" in en-US.

    Xmarks has always treated "BookmarksMenu" as the root of the bookmarks hierarchy, which leads to a few issues: first, in Firefox the toolbar is a child of the bookmarks menu, and can be moved around relative to other bookmarks, so there has to be some trickery on the Safari client to remove it, and put it back in the right place when syncing since this has not been the case in Safari. Secondly, in more recent versions of Safari, there are sidebar bookmarks which are siblings of the "BookmarksMenu". Because they aren't under "BookmarksMenu", Xmarks has nowhere in the current data model to put them, and therefore does not sync them at all (but it will try to avoid wiping them out).

    In Safari 7, by default, there is no BookmarksMenu. If you start a fresh install, and add bookmarks, they will normally go into the sidebar. Xmarks will not do anything with these. Also, in this mode, if you click on the "Bookmarks" application menu, you will see the "Favorites Bar" in the menu, along with all the sidebar bookmarks.

    However, you can have a BookmarksMenu in Safari 7, for example, by using a bookmarks database from an older version of Safari, or by letting Xmarks create it. If "BookmarksMenu" is present, only the bookmarks under "BookmarksMenu" will show up in the "Bookmarks" application menu, which does not include "Favorites Bar". Things will work the same as in Safari 6: you can have bookmarks in the sidebar that are not in the menu folder, but these will be ignored by Xmarks, while anything under BookmarksMenu and BookmarksBar will be synced with Xmarks. Currently, this is the only way things will work with Xmarks.

    So, if you are using Safari 7, you should move the bookmarks you want to sync under "BookmarksMenu". If you don't have the folder, the easiest way to get it is to do a Download and Xmarks will create it automatically (doing so will not erase any sidebar bookmarks, but it will overwrite the Safari toolbar). Xmarks should also create the folder on a merge; however if you do not have any bookmarks in the BookmarksMenu, I don't believe it will show up in the UI, and will still operate as if it did not exist.

    It turns out that the Safari 7 way is closer to the Firefox hierarchy, and as such we would prefer to support that method of organization, since it also means we get to sync the sidebar bookmarks. We are looking at making the bookmarks root potentially configurable, or dependent on the presence of BookmarksMenu in a future release.
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  • I’m synced!
    Got it working! Here's what I did:

    In my.xmarks.com, I created a test bookmark (e.g., www.google.com) inside the folder "Bookmarks" but outside of / a sibling of "BookmarksBar"!

    If you then trigger a sync with Safari, Xmarks will create a "Bookmarks Menu" folder in your Safari bookmarks that is a sibling of your Safari "Favorites Bar." (NOTE: Xmarks / Safari will *not* create "Bookmarks Menu" if you do not have anything inside of "Bookmarks" that is outside of "BookmarksBar" on my.xmarks.com.)

    You can then move all of your Safari bookmarks & bookmark folders that you would like synced with Xmarks into your new "Bookmarks Menu" folder! (HINT: Disable Xmarks for Safari before moving in bookmarks, and re-enable once you are finished, to prevent syncing errors, if you are dragging into multiple items in a row.)

    Thanks, Copeland, Anatoly, & the rest of the Xmarks team :D
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  • With the 2.0.6 release, bookmarks sync is ok.
    But it seems that Safari tabs are not synced : on Chrome I don't see any of my Safari open tabs :-/
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  • I read the posting by Copeland, then I read it again (I had the disappearing Firefox bookmarks) and then I printed it out so I could have it in front of me while experimenting going between Safari and Firefox. Then I installed version 2.0.6. for Safari. Once you understand what's going on with Safari everything falls in place.

    What i was doing was getting Firefox all set up and saved. Then I would sync Safari, see that there was a complete double set of bookmarks and so I would delete the duplicates and re-sync. Then I would open Firefox, sync, and all my bookmarks would disappear.

    What I was doing when I deleted the duplicate Safari bookmarks was deleting the ones in the Bookmarks Menu, not the ones in the Bookmarks Folder. So when I did a sync in Firefox, Xmarks saw no bookmarks in the Safari Bookmarks Menu (and it doesn't sync the Safari Bookmarks Folder) so no bookmarks in Firefox.

    Once I saw this happen a couple of times and understood what Copeland had posted, it was obvious that what Xmarks was doing was exactly what it was suppose to be doing. Once I understood this, I set up my bookmarks in Firefox, did a sync, switched to Safari, did another sync and this time deleted the duplicates that were in the Bookmarks Folder (left the Bookmarks Menu as it was), and behold, the Firefox sync returned a perfect set of bookmarks.

    Hope this helps anyone struggling with post sync duplicate bookmarks in Safari or disappearing bookmarks in Firefox.
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  • Hi all, new prebuild that addresses an error some people are seeing (you may see something like "ValueError: NSInvalidArgumentException - -[NSNull length]: unrecognized selector sent to instance 0xacdae2c0" in the logs):

    https://rodan.lastpass.com/dev/xmarks...
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  • Does this new build detect changes in bookmarks that come from iCloud syncing with my iPhone?
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  • I’m frustrated
    Does anyone get Safari 7 open tabs on another browser with Xmarks "remote tabs" functionality ?
    Not working for me :-(
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  • I have to say that this is rather confusing, and Copeland's post does not clarify things for me completely. I do understand that the Safari bookmarks model has changed and that this is causing difficulties.

    My primary interest in Xmarks is to maintain my "Favorites Bar" (I'm currently running Safari 6.1, but I will be upgrading to Mavericks as soon as 10.9.1 is released). I'm less interested in the rest of the bookmarks.

    So, my bottom-line question is this: Is there a way to have Xmarks sync those "favorites" (or "bookmark bar") bookmarks either or both of Safari 6 (Mt Lion) opt Safari 7 (Mavericks)?
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  • Hi, with Xmarks 2.0.9., things are going better and better. I use Chrome (French) for the most and there is still a confusing problem. Every day since version 2.0.5. or what, when I launch my mac, Xmarks creates a copy of the bookmarks -- folders only -- from the "Bookmarks bar" to the "Other bookmarks" folder. So I have to use the nice tool of "explore and restore" to download those from the day before.

    I always use Chrome and force uploads from it up to now. Have I to delete the folders in "Bookmarks bar" to let sync the folders in the "Other bookmarks" in chrome ?

    Regards.
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  • Need some help with a very frustrating Bookmarks Bar problem.

    I am using Safari 7.0.1 and Xmarks 2.0.9. I have a MBP at home and one at work that I sync my Safari bookmarks to using Xmarks.

    For the last 2 weeks or so, each day, when I first open Safari on my work MBP, the Bookmarks Bar comes up as what I believe is the default values for Safari. All my custom Bookmark Bar items are gone.

    If I go to the my Xmark website, the last sync profile I have has the correct Bookmark Bar info. So, I manually do a "download and replace" and the Bookmark Bar returns intact. I can add, subtract, move things around all day. Every change in the Bookmarks Bar is recorded in new sync profiles.

    But when I get home and open Safari for the 1st time, all my Bookmarks Bar items are gone - replaced by the Safari defaults!! If I manual down load and over write using myXmarks, I will get my Bookmarks Bar back - the exact set that was on my work MBP when I shutdown at the end of the day.

    In summary, each time I move from one MBP to the other, I need to download and restore my sync profile because Safari seems to automatically replace it with its own default.

    Anyone else having this problem? Any suggestions?

    Tim
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  • Hi folks,

    Just released 2.0.10 - please upgrade. It fixes an unfortunate bug that causes all bookmarks to be renumbered internally whenever Xmarks is restarted. In concert with the Chrome plugin, this was causing duplicate empty folders to show up for a number of people.
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  • With Xmarks 2.0.10 and Safari 7.0.1 things seem to be working for me. Hopefully that will continue...
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  • I’m frustrated
    So, this is the first time I've tried to use Xmarks with Safari 7 on Mavericks, and I haven't a clue what is going on (so different from every other experience with Xmarks). I have downloaded 2.0.11 and installed it, told it to throw away local bookmarks and sync from the server, I start up Safari but I see no signs of Xmarks anywhere. No extension, nothing in the tool bar, and no bookmarks! What am I doing wrong??
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  • I am having the same problem. Did you ever get it to work?

    I've installed 2.0.11 a couple of times, rebooted safari, rebooted my computer, and it is still nowhere to be found. Not in preferences, or in the 'customize tool bar' window.

    Did you ever get it to work?

    Flummoxed.
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  • I had no problems with Safari 7 and Mavericks. Wish they would officially support Safari 7.
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