Overnight provision for Motorhomes in Fylde

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Hi;
I have just read about your plans to provide overnight parking facilities for motorhomes in 5 areas in your region. I would like to thank and congratulate you for this positive attitude towards motorhomers. I will certainly be using this facility in the future and I'm sure that the initiative will be immensely popular throughout the motorhome community both here and abroad.
It can only help bring more revenue to your area and also encourage more motorhomers from abroad to visit as well once word gets around.
I am a member of the countries most popular motorhome forum, Motorhomefacts.com and this news has been welcomed by many of our 50,000+ members.

Well done Fylde!

Peejay from motorhomefacts.com
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Andrew Loynd, Employee

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Dear all,

Please note that due to the St Annes Triathlon taking place on Sunday 20th May which will be utilising this car park as the main transition area and will involve closing the entire length of North Promenade and Inner Promenade from 7:30am on the 20th, overnight motorhome parking will be suspended for the night of Saturday 19th May. We apologise for the inconvenience that this may cause those wishing to visit during this time.

Regards

Andrew Loynd
Principal Parking and Energy Officer
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Dave

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I guess by the sudden lack of action on this thread that it's either a washout or the motorhomers are taking in the bliss of our lovely sea front?
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JockandRita

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I hate to say it Dave, but I feel that the former may well be the case.

Why is it that our European cousins in France, Belgium, and Germany, can get it right by the thousands..............and yet we Brits can't even get it right by just a few. Gordon Blooming Bennett.
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Dave

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been past a few times with the dog and the place is empty.

is it the price that puts the motorhomers off?
it seems the price is £4.30 for over 4 hours in the day time and £5 for overnight.

Without sounding too harsh I would imagine that if £4.30 is enough to put motorhomers off then they really aren't going to be spending £5 on fish and chips are they!!!!

Perhaps it was a good idea to start with but I'm starting to think that the local economy would not see any adavntages in the project given that £4.30 seems to be a deterrent
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£4.30 is not a deterrent but most motorhomes are longer than one space so 2 spaces in the day = £8.60 + £5.00 for the night = £13.60 is a put off.

We arrived at 6.00PM and moved to free parking at 10.00AM the next morning, as did all the other vans we saw.
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I have not (yet) had the opportunity to visit the new facility, but I suspect that Dave has not quite understood the charging. As I understand it the day charge has to cover the use of two bays, thereby doubling the charge. Most motorhomes (even those based on a panel van conversion, would find it difficult to occupy a single bay, even to park, without opening the doors!

Even so, it has not yet had a chance to become known and used. It will take time to build up a clientelle. Not everyone who has contributed to this forum has been able to visit the site which may be several hundred miles from their homes. We most certainly will when we are next in that neck of the woods, if only to support those on the council who proposed it.

Tony Collins.
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I guess doubling the charge would be £8.60 daytime plus £5 overnight = £13.60 for 24 hrs = 56p an hour or two packets of fags!

If that seems expensive then I imagine the local shops won't be planning early retirement just yet! :-)
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I will spend considerably more than £13.60 on fish and chips for my family.

I will not spend £13.60 on a parking space on a car park with no facilities!
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Would indeed seem unlikely, as folk will not have much lolly to spend in said shops as it will go on parking up :-) ! ( This comment is not meant to be taken seriously :-) )
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Dave, you have to consider what competition there is. For your £13.60 I can get a pitch on a site with running water, chemical and waste water disposal and often 16 amp mains electricity. You are offering a car park with no such facilities, but the benefit of having a seafront location.

As with all things, there is a value judgement to be made. Also this scheme is at an embryo stage and needs time to get established. No-one expects it to be perfect the first time around.

I recently spent a day in Weymouth and even though I did not have a car to park, it was amazing just how much money we got through in six hours. The businesses of the town benefitted from that.

I hope to visit St.Annes later in the year and WILL support the "aire" simply because someone made the effort to put it there.

(This is an edited version of an earlier post which disappeared into the ether, I hope both don't suddenly appear)
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will be there this weekend and spend my cash in the local shops as usual,only localish so might not stay the night but when you compare the daytime charges to somewhere like york the charge is reasonable..As for the fitting in the bays ,i have a hightop which is just over 5.7 metres so will let you know if i can fit in a bay ( i use the vehicle on a daily basis and have no problem parking at retail parks or supermarkets)
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Feedback for the council.

We visited this weekend and found another 3 vans there. We love the location as it is ideal for van owners and the residents cant see us.

I think the £5.00 charge is fine for a sea front location. As 3 out of the 4 vans that were there this weekend were slightly longer than 1 parking space they would have had to pay for 2 spaces during the daytime. Most will not pay the additional £8.60 on top of the £5.00 especially when car owners decide to park right up to them making exiting the space impossible. Motorhomes need extra width to swing out of their spaces.

The main disappointment was the filthy condition of the car park. one small bin is not enough for a car park, shop and lifeboat station! We counted 4 different soiled nappies spread over the area and the one small bin was overflowing. On the one occasion the bin was emptied the collector dropped bags as he loaded the rubbish into the truck and did not pick it up. It wasn't because he was short of time, as he had time to stand chatting on his phone. We did not see one litter picker in the whole of resort the whole 2 days we were there.

We will visit again but if the rubbish situation is the same it will be our last visit !

For motorhomes to stop in the day time there needs to be an area where cars are not permitted otherwise they will move off in the morning to avoid being blocked in. I know all the arguments but there are thousands of spaces for cars to park in the area so losing an area of one car park will not have a negative impact on the area. The raised area of the car park could be redesigned to take cars if a small wall and a larger ramp was to be added.
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Dear Jezport,

Thank you very much for coming and trying out the location and, more importantly, supplying this sort of response. I will make sure this is included with the information used to evaluate the project in the Autumn.

With regard your comment about the waste issue I have forwarded your concerns to the relevant section within the council who will look into this. Thank you for bringing it to our attention. Unfortunately we will not be able to address the rest of your concerns until after the pilot phase has ended.

Kind Regards

Andrew Loynd
Principal Parking and Energy Officer
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Hi Jezport,

We will action the issue around operatives not collecting surrounding refuse and review the frequency of collection during busy periods (currently twice a day).

We did experience a large influx of visitors over the weekend and we will look at delivering a flexible service that can meet the large increase in demand during hot days.

Thanks for taking the time to feedback

Apart from the issues mentioned we hoped you enjoyed St Annes.
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We did enjoy St Annes thank you.

BTW the bins were only emptied once daily and no one went around the car park collecting litter between Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning as the same litter and dirty nappies were there all day,

We will visit again and hopefully report back on the improvements.

Thanks for replying.
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As always, we have been following this topic very closely. So far, we have been unable to get over to St Annes, but we hope to by the end of June, and will report back once we have been there.

We would like to thank Jezport for bringing the rubish situation to the attention of the council, because we know from past experience that if there is any litter left around the finger gets pointed at those of us in Motorhomes. More often than not there could be nothing further from the truth, as most of us have our own 'bin' inside the van and take our rubish either to the nearest suitable disposal point, or take it home with us.

We have also noticed that at seaside's the seagulls play a big part in spreading rubbish about which has been put in the bins.

Looking forward to checking the new motorhome friendly parking out
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£5 is enough to pay for 24hrs parking so we can spend money in your shops etc.
before they become empty are turned in charity shops
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That is exactly how I feel. If the fee was higher I would expect water, waste disposal and a car free area.
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payed a visit on saturday and if st annes had sunshine all the year round as it was at weekend i think we would all be struggling to park (never seen the place so full) I did manage to get a parking spot on the car park and as my van is under 6 metres i had no problem parking and did fit in the bay comfortably, so ok for me but some of the other motorhomes will not be so lucky and agree with you jezport that you will either get blocked in in the day or find you cannot get a parking space(did notice you had parked down the road).A mention also for the Salters Wharf toby carvery where you can get a carvery for £5.95 and a carvery beakfast for £3.99 how many are going to cook their own when you can get it at that price.And Bob there are plenty of charity shops already as i had to endure :-( on saturday.
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Just wondering if there was any up to date feedback?
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I was just posting the same question Lancashire Rose!! We are hoping to go in the next two weeks and will definitely be visiting the Toby Carvery, Thank You Rob Rebbitt.
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Dear Hymerker and Lancashire Rose

I will make sure that one of the team involved in this issue provide an update on this Forum tomorrow.

Thanks
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Thank you Allan
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Hope you have a lovely time and us locals make you welcome.
Enjoy the beautiful Fylde coast .
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I have visited a couple of times over the past 6 months and although i do not have a problem with the charges (paid £4 yesterday at southport for 4 hours and spent money in the pub and local chip shop for tea) but find that the bays are too tight for even my van which incidently is less than 6m long and less that 6'6 wide.I did check the car park out last monday and found there were no vans and incidently no cars on the car park,I had spent the weekend in Blackpool and was on my way to spend the day at Lytham where i paid for parking in the central beach area then spent money in the local shops and cafe.Allan i did take pics of my van on the car park and think you wil;l agree that the marking of bays needs to be addressed if it is to become a success
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If there was even a car next to you, it would not be possible to open the doors. As I said before this could be solved with a tin of paint.
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and a side on view
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If the wheels are in the marked bay and the van overhangs is that charged as 2bays mine is 6metres long
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Hymerkar

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I was wondering that too, as ours is 6.9mts but our wheelbase would be the same as your's Rob
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Quick update about the pilot scheme.

The current interim arrangements for overnight parking at St Anne's swimming pool car park will continue until Councillors consider the collated feedback and decide a way forward. Once the feedback is added to a report we will post a link here.

In short this means you can come and see the illuminations and park your motorhome overnight.

Full details of the parking arrangements can be found below.

https://www.fylde.gov.uk/resident/par...

Andy Cain
Customer Services Manager
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Bob if you wheels are in the bay as i understand it you pay for one but the parking sign does say vehicle should be parked wholly in the bay so we need a member of the st annes team to clarify that ,but you would not get anyone behind you.Mine is 5.75 but as you see i still overhang.
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Mine is 7'6" wide and 6.7m with the bike rack so I wouls have no chance of fitting one bay.
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At 8mtrs, we have no chance of fitting into one bay either, like Jezport's wouldn't.
There are so many excellent examples available from our Continental cousins, that it shouldn't be a problem for Fylde Borough Council to be aware of parking bay dimensions.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?num=10...

Thanks to Andy Cain for his update. Unfortunately, it doesn't look like we'll be visiting whilst, the current MH parking arrangement prevails.

regards,

Jock & Rita.
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I would be interested to find out how many supporters of the scheme have actually visited.