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Before or after "Adblock/Plus" and/or "NoScript" ?

When "Ghostery" indicates (in the "bubble") to presence of "web bugs", is this determination made before or after the action(s) of the "AdBlock/Plus" and "NoScript" extensions ?
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  • My guess it that it happens in parallel. Since I have Adblock filters that block out some of the web bugs that Ghostery reports as active but they are not...
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    I have both AdBlock filters and NoScript rules (including ABE ones) that are, in fact,blocking the materiel that Ghostery is "ballooning". It would be ideal to have the ability to "balloon" the info before or after AdBlock and NoScript (or even both ways!).

    Net desired effect is to have Ghostery work better with AdBloc and NoScript. I can live without Ghostery (actually, I run a down-level version), but would never run sans AdBlock and NoScript, except in the Sandbox.
    • I concur...it would be great if Ghostery would work well with ABP and NoScript.

      Ideally an all-in-one. It would be nice too if if there is an add-on that identify what has passed through all of them to identify any leaks so one could block.

      I use another service (or at least testing it) called RequestPolicy but I am growing very irritated by it because while its useful for sites that redirect or access a few sites (1-3) externally it gets rather annoying on sites like blogs that literally pull from 10+ sites. Of course I am beginning to wonder if its even useful. Because when I use that it literally can block an entire site from loading content until allowed. In cases of sites like this Ghostery stll reports things being blocked which leads me to belive one of two things:
      1) RequestPolicy is not blocking.
      2) RequestPolicy is but Ghostery is in parrell.
      3) or...still working on third theory.
    • Pooch (Official Rep) April 20, 2012 16:25
      Hey Tekeek, thanks for using Ghostery.

      RequestPolicy, like NoScript, is a fussy addon that will require an initial setup investment to get it running well. That said, its a good tool for monitoring and preventing 3rd party calls.

      As far as reporting who did what: Ghostery is capable of determining if a tracker has been blocked by Ghostery or another addon, its just not displayed anywhere. We might add this in the future versions.
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  • At the moment, I use ABP and Ghostery, and NoScript, not nearly as much anymore. Oh, I love what NoScript does, but I've gotten tired of having pages refuse to load and run properly even when NoScript is telling me its temporarily turned off, and yet seeing those pages load and run properly on Chrome (and IE).

    And for whatever reason, I very much like Ghostery's page that tries to tell me what each service is doing. I find that really helpful in knowing whether to just block the script or let it load and run.
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  • I just added Ghostery after being quite happy with Adblock/Plus for some time. I find that Ghostery reports items that ADP has already blocked in some cases, but not all. But in some cases Ghostery reports new items that are not blocked in ADP blockable list.

    So if I find one that ADP did not block, should I create an ADP filter or let Ghostery block it?

    I am wondering where is it most optimal to add the block? I would hate to have two services doing redundant blocking/reporting.

    Is Ghostery blocking just an extension of ADP's blocks?

    A bit confusing having two blockers! (but that's a better problem to have than no blockers !!!)

    It seems to me (a novice here), that Ghostery blocking might be more broad based (LSO's and such) where ADP is just visual stuff. If thats true I guess I should lean towards Ghostery blocking.
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  • actually I had already read that and/or similar but it didn't really address my specific question.

    which blocker should I choose when I see something block-able?

    are you saying it doesn't matter?

    Scenario A:

    If Ghostery is reporting a site and it *IS* in my ADP blockable list and *IS* ADP-blocked:
    (1) do I assume that Ghostery blocking will block other bad stuff? or
    (2) if ADP renders the url non-functioning, am I protected from all parts of the undesired url?

    Scenario B:

    If Ghostery is reporting a site that is in my ADP blockable list and NOT adp-blocked, should I
    (1) Add an ADP filter?
    (2) BLock it via Ghostery?
    (3) either one is fine
    (4) both are fine (with no performance penalty)
    • My apologies, here are more detailed answers for your scenarios:

      Ghostery can detect and block trackers. Assuming you have blocking on, and all trackers are selected to be blocked, then what happens is as follows:

      1) Ghostery content policy reviews every element that's being requested and approrves/denies is depending on the source location. Any other content policies are executed here (thats where NS and ABP will execute as well).
      2) Ghostery DOM Scanner looks into the page you've loaded and reports back the elements it finds: the reporting is based on DOM and not whether the piece was actually loaded: Ghostery will also tell if you the tracker has been blocked (or at least selected to be blocked in the options), regardless of who actually blocked the content.

      Now to the actual scenarios:
      - In the scenario A, if Ghostery blocking is on and the element is selected to be blocked -- Ghostery will attempt to block this content. When ABP is also set to block same element, only one of the addons will be able to actually block it (generally, it is in the order of addon installation). So, in (1) Ghostery is still on the hunt for other elements and (2) you are protected from this given tracker

      - In scenario B, if Ghostery found something that ABP didn't, generally it would also block it at that point. If its reported and not crossed out, you may set Ghsotery to block this element in the future by clicking on the status bar ghosty icon, scrolling to the tracker sub-menu and checking the "Block Blah Blah?" menu. If you wish to get rid of Ghostery at some point, then you would need to copy this element's src into a filter. There is relatively little performance penalty when running 2 addons, but as long as at least 1 addon blocks the offending content, then everything is as should be.
    • excellent description....
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    Sorry Felix, I should have qualified my scenarios. I don't want to have Ghostery blocking on by default for all. I want to selectively choose what I may want to block.

    Does this change your answers?
    • Yes, but only for scenario B, Scenario A remains the same.

      For B: Ghostery should be on, and blocking should be enabled, but select no trackers: that implies that Ghostery content-policy will run, but its going to be doing nothing until you select a tracker to block. So for the B you must do this step: "If its reported and not crossed out, you may set Ghsotery to block this element in the future by clicking on the status bar ghosty icon, scrolling to the tracker sub-menu and checking the "Block Blah Blah?" menu." in order for Ghostery to block the offender in the future.
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  • i like no script the best. gives good control over the page and blocks tons of nasty ads.
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  • CMK 3 months ago
    i like no script the best. gives good control over the page and blocks tons of nasty ads.



    so, wrong site, sir - noscript is ...right there.... yep.

    but really, what about No script? (nobody mention it...)
    As I see here, ADP can miss something that Gostery sees..
    I 've just installed Ghostery and want to understand - do I need also to use ADP (that would be .. blocker No2) or even Noscript too (blocker No3 - shit)...
    What difference between them? Is that so important that it wouls be better to have them all together?
    Better... foor... lesss ads and more privacy, I think.)))

    Thanks for helping.
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  • Hmm,
    I think that order *does* count somehow. I am currently in a new Release Channel Firefox profile right and now. Ghostery works, as do Adblock Plus and NoScript. The profile was built by taking the CLEO/FEBE with OPIE (all very good Firefox extensions from Chuck Baker) of my Firefox Beta build. Ghostery works on the Beta version's profile, but never shows and web bugs (or cookies when I loaded that option).
    I have next to build my Aurora and Nightly profiles respectively. I'll get back to the forum here as soon as I get that done, real soon now.

    /s/ BezantSoft
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