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There is a serious problem that exists with the Chevrolet Cobalt electric power steering failing and causing the steering to lose any assist. This occurs without warning and is dangerous. Read comments on http://www.topix.com/forum/autos/chev.... A class-action lawsuit is about to be filed.
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  • I COULD HAVE DIED.
    I was told today that they are offering me $5,000.00 for my 05 Chevy Cobalt. The power steering went totally out a few days after September 26 and had caused an accident earlier on in the year. They are now holding my car at a Palm Chevrolet dealership in Ocala FL. When going to retrieve my car they said GM wouldn't be able release my car do to the power steering rendering it unsafe to drive. When I first talked to GM they sounded as though it would be no problem they would fix the car and all the repairs needed from the accident. Now they want nothing to do with the repairs. It has been in the shop for a month and out of service since September. I don’t think I was born yesterday. The repairs for power steering is $1,400. Less than the $5,000 that they want to pay me so they can fix the car and resell it leaving me to drive a piece of junk that runs if I could find it that cheep. I paid a little over $18,000 for a stock model car. I put $800.00 in to it from the accident leaving only body work to be done. I’m trying to raise my ten month old son. Without a car it has made it impossible to go to college or get a job. Not to mention having to pay over $1,000 on insurance for a car I can’t use. I want my car and I want it fixed. Can you please help.
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    I sent many comments like this to Wesh 2 news and NHTSA where else should I send this. I'm getting a lawyer!!
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  • I’m Happy
    I fix my power steering and it only cost my about $400. :)
    My Power Steering went out on my on November and I got it fix on February. When I got it fix it, they decide to do a recall on it.
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  • I’m excited
    yep they did but i went back to my dealership and they told me there shouldnt be no problem to get a refund back on what you put out!!!
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  • i think i have been having this same problem with my cobalt, except that alot of different things happenat once.. for example when im driving the traction control light comes on, my check engine light will come on, my gas is extrmemly wierd as if i was drivng a stick, and i hear a constant clicking noise coming from the drive saft...does anybody have any info on this or if this has happen to you?
    • I have had my traction light come on.I thought it only would come on when it snowed.But I was wrong,it works.Mine has come on,when the road is wet,or if you pull out to fast.But this traction light is working fine and doing its job,so i hope you feel safer about that.As for the brakes jumping,I had my rotars and brakes replaced last year.Mine just started doing this,but it depends on how many miles,that someone has traveled,before replacing them.This problem,(I am hoping),is not some kind of a "different" defect.I plan to change my brake pads soon and I am pretty sure this will fix the problem.Thank You.
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  • I’m pissed
    oh and also when i go to brake it feels like my brakes are giving out like its really jumpy...if anybody has any info on this please let me know..
    • Ryan I have the same problem with my brakes when I am trying to slow down on even the smallest incline. When it was under warranty I took it to the dealership right after I returned from a trip to the mountains (when I praying the whole way down that we would be able to stop, had to put it in the lower gear to slow down and maintain speed) they replaced the rotors and said that would fix it. Of course I didn't return to the mountains again until warranty was up and still had the same problem. My yellow T/C light goes on and off at random times as well as brake light but doesn't appear to cause any problems besides being annoying. I often have trouble getting the car fully in park to be able to get my keys out of the ignition and my alarm will go off every time if you open the door without pushing the button on keyless remote first even though the car is NOT locked. I am just wondering if anyone has gotten their paperwork on the recall yet? When I went to the dealership and asked about getting refunded for what I paid last year to fix the power steering I was told I would get a recall notice in the mail and there would be a form to fill out to request a refund with it. Haven't got one yet!
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  • I’m frustrated
    i went to my dealership they did tell me the same i would get something in the mail it would be sometime in april. I hope so i really could use the money back real bad.
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  • I’m furious!!!!
    Well thanks to this unresolved problem my 19 yr old daughter was in a car accident last night with injury!!! I am furious, about two weeks ago she went to the car dealership to complain about the situation, they took her VIN number and told her there was NO recall for her vehicle!!! Well, I don't know how they sleep at night , sending away 19yr old girls headed for disaster! She lost powersteering and verred into a 4 foot cement light ecasing in a parking lot when attempting to turn into a parking spot!! she suffered a 1 inch laceration on her forehead and severe whip lash!!! The air bag did not deploy either! thank god there were no other victims or any other vehicles involved! Still the same after experiencing power failure several times, going to the dealerhsip and being sent away only to end up in the hospital because of it just two weeks later is ridiculous and I for one have full intentions of doing something about it!!!!!! Parents do NOT let your children drive these cars.......NO one should be driving these cars without the issues being fixed by the dealership.........it could have been deadly!!! that heart attach of a phone call from my daughter "mommy my head is bleeding" is terrifiying I would not want ANYONE else to receive that phone call or worst!!!!
    • That is so messed up hope your daughter is ok! That just makes me mad knowing that there is a major problem with the car and the dealership does know it no matter what theres a recall on the chevy colbalts with the power steering problem i like to know when they are going to start fixing these cars Even Toyata wasnt this bad they had major problem with their cars and they resolved it quickly. What is Gm waiting on?
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  • I’m frustrated
    I got a form in the mail for the recall. Mine had alreadu gone out so I sent the info in to be reimbursed. They wrote back and said it is the wrong part. How many parts to the power steering is there? The dealership said it is the correct part. They are just trying to screw everyone over.
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    • I found out their are a couple of things to power steering.Their are the upper,lower,electrical steering box,a steering rod in the center of the column and a joint that holds them together.I only had my lower steering column replaced and 2 lower control arms.I have not had the trouble with the electricle steering box failing or the steering light coming on.I hope this doesn't start for me,I have had enough problems.Thank You.
    • GM is refusing to reimburse if the whole steering column assembly (which includes the motor) was replaced instead of just the motor itself. The problem with this is that up to a certain point the dealerships were replacing the whole assembly instead of just the motor to fix the power steering problem, because they weren't sure what the problem was. So some of us who paid out of pocket to fix the problem are being denied reimbursement because the dealership chose to replace the whole assembly instead of the one part of the assembly that was actually needed. I'm planning to call GM today to dispute their non-reimbursement, and if that doesn't get results I'm contacting the NHTSA at safercar.gov. The NHTSA was responsible for making GM issue the recall, and they need to be aware that GM isn't honoring the recall.
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  • I’m undecided
    Our 2007 Cobalt with 30000 klm on was just 3 mths out of warranty, the power steering went, we booked it in for repair this monday but checked first and found this site, we were prepared for a fight, The dealership, not only fixed the power steering problems, installing new motor, they found a problem with bushings and links and fixed that too, all for free. On Tuesday this week we received the recall letter ! Ours is a better story than most, but according to the letter I would think that those who previously had to pay for their repair would be covered and due a re-imbursement.
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  • I’m frustrated
    my dealer notified me about a recall on cobalts, but when i looked into it after waiting about 2 months, they told me that my cobalt was not covered for the recall! i'm from the united states virgin islands and i'm the only cobalt on the island that has the problem with my power steering! if nothing is done about the problem i might be forced to take legal action. any advice?????
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  • I’m waiting for chevrolet to make a desition.
    What exactly is your steering doing?Everyone that makes their comments should post exactly what their steering did,so they can campare.A lot of the people (not you) online,are posting because they heard of the recall.I don't think those people should do that.But as for you and I,I hope they get the problem resolved.Your car is beautiful,mine is the exact same color!
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  • I’m frustrated
    Took my wife's 2005 Cobalt in to the dealer for the recall on the electric power steering motor. We had NO problems prior to the recall, other than the common control-arm bushing failures.
    Now...since the recall was performed, we are having intermittent loss of power steering!! (Go figure..."Government Motors"!!)
    This is happening primarily when first starting up the car. The traction control light comes on (while the car is in park), there is no power steering, and the brake safety interlock clicks on it's own (the clicking sound you hear from under the shift-selector on the center console on automatics when you press the brake pedal).
    If you shut the engine off...remove the key...let it sit for a while...then try again, it will sometimes work OK.
    My wife is too small to "muscle" the steering wheel without the power steering...so it's not even safe for her to drive it!
    Called the dealer back, and was told I would have to pay for diagnostic ($85 min.), then IF they would "diagnose" it as being their fault (what are the chances of that??), they would repair it at no cost.
    Called Chevrolet, and they offered NO help whatsoever! I've seen TONS of posts online about people having this same problem after having the recall done.
    Took it to our own mechanic who knows what he's doing!
    I'll post if we find out what's wrong ~
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    • An update on my wife's 2005 Cobalt LS Sedan...
      Took it to our own mechanic (can't trust the Chevy dealer around here). The first day he had it (a Monday), the problem reproduced...upon start-up the traction control light comes on spontaneously, there is NO power steering, and the brake safety interlock relay (under the "shift" lever in the center console) keeps clicking on its own - without touching the brake pedal at all.
      He checked the computer, and found many "communication error" codes - which could be a problem with any of the multiple computers on this car. He had the car for 2 weeks, and the problem never reproduced again. We finally had to take the car back, as he cannot diagnose which computer is faulting unless it is "acting up" at that moment.
      We took the car home. Soon after, we get the traction control light coming on at random times - without reason (no poor traction conditions or hard acceleration). Last Thursday, my wife was driving home from work, and the traction control light came on, the brake safety interlock was clicking, and a message showed up on the DIC screen saying "Power Steering".
      I drove it last Friday, and had the traction control light come on at various times - no reason. Noticed that the traction control light comes on even in "Park" if the parking brake is engaged (no reason for that).
      It's back at our mechanic as of this morning (Monday). Hopefully it will reproduce the problem so they can get it fixed. They are suspecting the power steering control module (computer) - which requires replacing the entire steering column!!
      Ironic...we never had any problems with the car until they replaced the power steering motor for the recall!! So much for being proactive!
      The only other issue we've had has been the lower control arm horizontal bushings failing (stupid design anyway). I've learned to keep our vehicles away from the Chevy dealer!!
    • Everyone...PLEASE PAY ATTENTION!!! If you've had the power steering motor recall done...have you noticed your traction control light coming on when it shouldn't be (...like in Park)???
      Are you hearing a clicking under the center console (Automatic transmissions)???
      Do you ever start up your car and have no power steering???

      I have heard of a LOT of people having these problems after having the recall done. I really think there is still something in the new motors they are putting in that is causing a problem with the power steering control module (computer)! This can cause communication errors between the several computers in these cars. Replacing that control module requires replacing the entire steering column!!!
      I don't think GM has taken care of these issues with just replacing the power steering motor - I think this was a cost-saving measure to avoid the huge expense of replacing the entire steering columns in all of these cars!
      ***PLEASE***...watch for any of these issues, and post them. We need to get enough of these to force "Government Motors" to DO SOMETHING to actually FIX this problem!
      My wife got stuck in a turn lane on a very busy street / intersection because of these issues...and she STILL LOST POWER STEERING...AFTER THE RECALL!!!!!!!
      I don't think these are seperate issues...it's part of the problem with the steering systems - and they should be fixing these!!
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  • Everyone! Call the 800 number in the back of your car's owner's manual and report your car's specific problem straight to GM!! I have done this and finally got my power steering replaced at no charge to me last week. After 12 mos of driving with no power steering, let me tell you how great it was to get it fixed!!
    There definitely is an active recall, not only on the power steering but also on a fuel line leak. If you get nowhere with GM, get online and file a complaint with the NHTSA and COMPLAIN!!! I did both of these things and my car is fixed at no cost to me. Please read all of the previous posts from others who have posted comments.
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    • Hers is doing at random, I first noticed it like you when I pressed the brake, but know it seems to do it off and on without touching the brake. And my thoughts to on the suspension making the raddle, I am getting that checked out tomorrow, NOT BY DEALER. However, I do agree the car has been good with no major problems until I took it in today for the recall. She loves it and as long as mamma’s happy everyone is happy lol.
    • Hers is doing at random, I first noticed it like you when I pressed the brake, but know it seems to do it off and on without touching the brake. And my thoughts to on the suspension making the raddle, I am getting that checked out tomorrow, NOT BY DEALER. However, I do agree the car has been good with no major problems until I took it in today for the recall. She loves it and as long as mamma’s happy everyone is happy lol.
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  • I’m frustrated
    we have been fighting with chevy for the last couple of years when the stearing problem started we took the car to the dealer and were told that there was nothing wrong the problem continued we would loose the stering completely at any time after the third trip to chevy we were told they could not find any problems would have to wait till it happened again. Well it did and my husband was almost killed it went off into a tree foot ditch had to be towed and stored till we could find a place for. Then we get the recall letter they want to fix the part wich we had done but they do not want to reminberse us for any of the other expenses we had hospital towing storage parts and other stuff does anyone know what lawers are handling any suits involving the chevy colbalt please let me know i need help
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  • Scott Yes I have a 05 Colbalt and they recalled it and it was fixed for about a month and a half and now I am having the same problems with my power steering but only worse then before. I already filed a complaint with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and told them they need to recall the colbalts altogether because they are unsafe and will get more people killed if not seriously injured.
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  • Sue I am looking into a civil suit now against GM and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) for not taking this matter seriously. I have contacted a few people in this matter because not only do I have an unsafe vehicle, I have missed way to much work cause I do not have the luxury of having two cars.
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  • You can file a complaint with safecar.gov or the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) The more complaints the better
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  • Chevy today said that their is nothing wrong with my power steering yet both my self and my brother test drove it. Now in August I had the recall and they fixed it so they claimed in August but yet it is doing the same thing only worse this past week. Amazing how chevy will try to use the excuse that it is something else other then the power steering when the instrument light chiming power steering was a damn good indication that it was the steering. Not to mention I could not turn my steering wheel and when I try to accelerate the car would jolt like it was not going into gear. Let me not forget to mention the clicking noise I get underneath the dash near the steering wheel and the clicking in the shifter. Same problem new day and they tell me it is fine. I guess I have to kill someone on the road for them to do something about the car.
    • Ted...
      Sounds like you're having the same issues we are - and it's getting worse! We never had a problem with the car (other than the control arm bushings) until the recall was performed.
      My wife's 2005 Cobalt has been with our mechanic for about 10 weeks now. It is a computer problem.
      It get progressively worse. It started off with no power steering upon start-up, with the traction control ("T/C") light coming on, and the brake safety interlock relay clicking under the center console on it's own (it should click when you press the brake while it's in "Park").
      Now..."Power Steering" comes up on the dash display, the power steering goes out, the guages start jumping around, the brake safety interlock still clicks on it's own...PLUS now the "Check Engine" light comes on and the transmission goes into "limp mode"...so when you shift into "Drive", it SLAMS into gear. Then if you try to drive it, it will short-shift and slam into gear like a drag-racer. (When they go into "limp mode", it causes the transmission rail pressures to "max-out"...to prevent slippage if there is actually something wrong with the trans.
      Usually just shutting it off, removing the key, waiting a few moments, then trying again takes care of it. BUT...last time it happened, my wife got stuck at work (there's NO way she can turn that steering wheel without the power steering!), and I finally had to come get her and have her drive my truck. Let me tell you...it was NOT fun trying to drive that thing with NO power steering PLUS the transmission in "limp mode"!!
      We left it at my parent's house, went to eat dinner, then back to take it back to the mechanic - where it's been ever since! Oh...and of course it drove fine to the mechanic's shop - go figure!
      I really don't think that the power steering assist motor was the REAL issue with many of these!! GM really needs to get on this! I agree, somebody's going to get killed by or in one of these.
      Fortunately, we have a GREAT mechanic who is determined to get it fixed...I'll post once we get an answer - hopefully it will save some lives...or at least some serious headaches!!
      The problem is that there are about 5-6 computer "modules" in these cars, and they are basically in a loop. Thus, if one module faults, it can cause them all to fault.
      Since this is an intermittent problem, the mechanic has to actually "catch it in the act" to test each module to find the faulty one.
      He has caught it enough to get a hypothesis on which one it is...but it has to act up again for him to confirm it before he replaces the module.
      Temperature also seems to be a factor in this, as we have noticed that it tends to act up more when it's hotter outside.
    • Ted...
      Sounds like you're having the same issues we are - and it's getting worse! We never had a problem with the car (other than the control arm bushings) until the recall was performed.
      My wife's 2005 Cobalt has been with our mechanic for about 10 weeks now. It is a computer problem.
      It get progressively worse. It started off with no power steering upon start-up, with the traction control ("T/C") light coming on, and the brake safety interlock relay clicking under the center console on it's own (it should click when you press the brake while it's in "Park").
      Now..."Power Steering" comes up on the dash display, the power steering goes out, the guages start jumping around, the brake safety interlock still clicks on it's own...PLUS now the "Check Engine" light comes on and the transmission goes into "limp mode"...so when you shift into "Drive", it SLAMS into gear. Then if you try to drive it, it will short-shift and slam into gear like a drag-racer. (When they go into "limp mode", it causes the transmission rail pressures to "max-out"...to prevent slippage if there is actually something wrong with the trans.
      Usually just shutting it off, removing the key, waiting a few moments, then trying again takes care of it. BUT...last time it happened, my wife got stuck at work (there's NO way she can turn that steering wheel without the power steering!), and I finally had to come get her and have her drive my truck. Let me tell you...it was NOT fun trying to drive that thing with NO power steering PLUS the transmission in "limp mode"!!
      We left it at my parent's house, went to eat dinner, then back to take it back to the mechanic - where it's been ever since! Oh...and of course it drove fine to the mechanic's shop - go figure!
      I really don't think that the power steering assist motor was the REAL issue with many of these!! GM really needs to get on this! I agree, somebody's going to get killed by or in one of these.
      Fortunately, we have a GREAT mechanic who is determined to get it fixed...I'll post once we get an answer - hopefully it will save some lives...or at least some serious headaches!!
      The problem is that there are about 5-6 computer "modules" in these cars, and they are basically in a loop. Thus, if one module faults, it can cause them all to fault.
      Since this is an intermittent problem, the mechanic has to actually "catch it in the act" to test each module to find the faulty one.
      He has caught it enough to get a hypothesis on which one it is...but it has to act up again for him to confirm it before he replaces the module.
      Temperature also seems to be a factor in this, as we have noticed that it tends to act up more when it's hotter outside.
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  • I’m sad
    I just got my car back from the dealer said my recalled replaced motor must have been defective. Interesting that they are still putting these parts in the car . Now they know it is defective because I am living proof that they are. So I told the guy at the dealer. dibs on how long this power motor last. I say a month and a half. I do have the problem with the steering being way off and like you said after the fixed the recall my driving range is way out from being straight. I am still filing a complaint every day with NHTSA so they will hopefully just recall this whole stupid POS car. I am still in fear that one minute or hour it could go out at any given time. So I am thinking of filing a civil case against NHTSA and GM for loss of work and mental anguish..

    And for Michel that motor is not made by Denso, The name they gave me was Jrl or some weird name and I had searched the manufacture and found out that it was some high maintenance hydrolic part bid on by the lowest bidders. This same part is not only in cars but drills or some gear driven thing. I am trying to find the page I found all this info on because Lord knows it was interesting.

    Anyhow today it is so called fix and now I live in fear until it happens again...Hoo Yeah!!!!
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  • Ted...
    When you say your "steering is way out from being straight" - do you mean the steering wheel is not at "12 o'clock" when you are driving straight? If so...they very well could have reinstalled your steering shaft (likely the intermediate shaft - a common problem) when they reassembled it.
    FYI: The power steering on the Cobalt is electric - not hydraulic. That may help you locate the manufacturer easier.
    In all honesty, I still doubt that the "whole issue" with these power steering failures is in the electric motor. I think that the REAL problem is in the computer / control modules at some point. The motors are just a "cheap, easy fix" so it looks like they're "trying" to do something about the problem.
    For example...in order to replace the power steering control module, you have to replace the ENTIRE steering column. Whether or not THIS is the module causing the problems...you could see why they'd rather just replace a "quick, bolt-in motor" they can replace in 20 min. vs. an entire steering column that would take hours to replace.??
    It doesn't seem logical that a bad motor alone would cause the other "symptoms"...UNLESS those motors are causing shorts in one or more circuits which is damaging the control modules / computers - thus causing the other issues (brake safety interlock, T/C light, gauge failures, "Check Engine" lights, "limp mode", etc.).
    The only codes our mechanic is getting are "communication error" codes...the computer modules are not communicating properly with each other.
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  • Yeah I mean my steering wheel is not 12:00. Not anymore since they changed the motor on the first recall.

    Sorry I did mean to say electric and not hydraulic. I was typing fast and not paying attention to my words.

    I too think the real problem is in either the power steering control module in the lower steering column or the main computer in this car. But now we have to convince the NHTSA that this is the case. I mean seriously! They replaced the motor in August and staring this past Monday it did it again. Not either they are putting in defective parts or maybe they are not even replacing anything at all and re-programming the module/computer. But this goes to show how crappy the products are on this colbalt. just last year my car kept stalling out on me and I was not getting any warning light or nothing. I took it in and they told me they could not figure out why it was doing that without a check engine light. After about a week of myself and brother ruling out possibilities, I concluded it was the throttle position sensor. Oddly enough this cars TPS is connected right to the throttle body so the whole thing had to be replaced. Now don't get me wrong no outside auto placed carries this part except for the dealer. Now it was cheap and by God I was surprised a part like this would only be 125.00.

    I replaced this part cause it is an easy fix. But about 4 months later i was having the same problem and sure enough they gave me a defective part. I replaced it and so far so good, but now the power steering issue comes back...lol Well I will keep testing my car over the days since they so called replaced the power motor a second time. But it is scary to drive because you never truly when it will just cut out on you. I am not so much afraid for my life per say, but the last thing I want to do is take another life because GM and the NHTSA will not take care of this issue.

    I was reading up on civil cases on car related issues and seen that most car companies have bean counters and would rather pay out for a 1000 lives then to recall all the cars. Pretty crappy that our lives are in the hands of a more simplified account based figure.

    I am sure your wife is freaked out about driving her car. Hell I am about mine because it is a weird thing that happens. Hell when the tow truck driver came by on Monday to pick it up. Now this guy was a huge guy and he was like wtf. He was having a hard time trying to steer it, just to get in on his truck.

    the crazier thing; chevy was trying to get me to pay for the towing. I was like F*NO you guys fixed this problem before or so you say and it happened again. I said NO your responsible for towing. Then they tried to tell me their was nothing wrong with the power steering before they even test drove it. They only hooked it up to the computer and it read nothing so they automatically thought it was fine. I said It will not even go over 10mph without jolting back and forth and no steering and the loud clicking noise that is coming from the shifter and underneath the steering wheel.

    Like I told GM and the NHTSA/ I said my brothers are greedy mothers and if anything happens to me. You can bet your ass they will take you all for the biggest ride and trust me they will win. I actually contacted a lawyer today and we are looking into some avenues into getting this resolved so no more loss of injuries or lives will be at stake. I also call the NHTSA every day and complain. I know they are not filing anything after my initial call, but I am just going to keep harassing until we get some damn results.

    Sorry for the long rant! Yeah keep me posted on your end.

    Here is my email if you rather send info their or we can keep it here.

    cynet007@cfl.rr.com

    Ted
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    i own a 06 cobalt the steering went out and i hit a tree head on,and the air bags did not go off i was told i missed the sencer.I knew nothing about the recall untill 2 days after the the crash.i took my car to the dealershipl 7 different times with this concern and 7 different tines i was told nothing was wrong.this car was a gift from my mother and was very well taken care of.if i would have known about the recall i would have never driven it.G.M also needs to own up to those who no longer have their cars because of this problem.and by the way the computer on board does not record the proper info.mine showed nothing when i took it in back in 07 and does not show anything n ow not even the check engine light. what a crock!!!! what really sucks is the consumer pays a large amount of money thinking they are safe in a new car with all the safety features and when there is a broblem G.M is only willing to fix part of the problem,what about the rest of us. i am seeking a class action law suit does anyone know where i mite find one?i am also planning to go to the media with this if i dont get some resolution and soon.
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  • Hello Kmarriew,

    I was having the same issues and was fighting with GM and the NHTSA to recall these cars all together but it came with failed attempts. Anyhow I do not need to worry about this issue anymore since my car just got totaled on December first. Now this was not the power steering related because someone slammed into the back of my car. However they tried to sell me another Cobalt and I said NO WAY! I would not put my life in the hands of GM and another one of these cars because they are way to dangerous and need to be recalled. GM only cares about money and making sales and not so much our lives. We are part of the bean counter system and they rather pay out for the deaths of a thousand people rather then recall all the cars because it is cheaper to pay for the deaths. It is a disgusting world we live in when our lives are held in the balance by bureaucrats of the car industries. If you tend to a class action suit, I will join you even though I do not own this car anymore since the accident on the 1st. But I would still help out in anyway I can. They need to pay for their mistakes.

    my email is cynet007@cfl.rr.com
    • kmarriew ...I'm glad you are OK. Thank God!

      Well, we have the Cobalt back after about 12 weeks with our own mechanic this fall. It turns out, the computer problems related to this tend to occur more often in the warmer temperatures...so those of you who live in warmer climates, PLEASE be careful!!!
      EVEN IF YOU'VE HAD THE RECALL OF THE POWER STEERING MOTOR PERFORMED!!! We have...and it wasn't until AFTER the recall was performed that we started having ANY problems!!!
      Now that it's cold here - the problems have stopped...FOR NOW.

      ***PLEASE*** WATCH FOR THESE SIGNS:
      - If you have an automatic transmission, and it is in "Park"...listen for a clicking sound. You SHOULD hear this when you press the brake pedal. It is your brake safety interlock relay that prevents you from putting the car in gear without pressing the brake pedal. Try pressing your brake pedal while the car is running and in Park so you recognize this sound. IF YOU HEAR THIS CLICKING WHILE IN PARK AND YOU ARE NOT TOUCHING THE BRAKE...BE CAREFUL!!
      - Watch for your traction control light on the dash. If you are in Park or Drive, and this light is on and stays on...BE CAREFUL
      - If you start up your car and your guages go crazy...BE CAREFUL
      - If you start up your car and notice you have no power steering...DON"T TRY TO DRIVE IT. You may be able to shut it off and remove the key (may take a few tries) and get it to return to normal function.
      - If you start up the car and shift it into "drive"...and it seems to "slam" into gear (it will be obvious)...don't drive it. There will likely be several other symptoms going on in order for this to happen. Basically, the computer system in this car has several computers all in a "loop", and they are just putting out "generic" communication error codes. When there are enough if these codes, the car goes into a "limp mode", where all the rail pressures in the transmission are maxed out, and it will seem to shift too soon as well as feeling like reduced engine power.

      These are all symptoms (except the "limp mode" that we experienced prior to my wife having the car lose power steering while driving on a busy city street. Fortunately, she was in the right lane and was able to get off into the right turn lane. That was the first time that it went into limp mode.

      I have done a great deal of mechanical and electrical work on cars, so I am more familiar with these issues.
      The car did this again, and I had to drive the car to our mechanic's shop (which was fortunately close-by). Trust me...you wouldn't want to drive it very far like that. I am 6'3", 264lbs., and it took quite an effort to steer that car...and a lot of "playing around" to get it to even drive in that state.
      Our mechanic was able to reproduce every symptom, and was able to rule out a couple of the computer modules...but ran out of enough warm weather to get to the culprit.
      I guess we'll have something else to look forward to in the spring!

      I'll try to keep you all posted, and pray that you all stay safe.

      **ALSO REMEMBER**...when much of this recall process was taking place - it was while the government had decided to introduce themselves into the PRIVATE business of the automobile industry and was "holding the reigns" of many of the decisions being made. Trust me...they cannot properly handle medical care through a program they have had in place for decades (Medicare)...Who could really expect that a bunch of career politicians (many of whom have never even run as much as a lemonade stand) could make reasonable business decisions for the automobile industry. I believe therein lies much of the problem in how much of this was handled (besides the obvious design faults that are common throughout ALL auto manufacturers). The American auto companies (at least those those allowing the government intrusion) had to keep the politicians happy - even if in doing so, their customers had to be neglected. That is what happens when Mr. Government sticks their nose where it doesn't belong.
      Yes, GM is at fault as well for allowing such intrusion to occur...but (as much as it pains me to say it), kudos to the blue oval for standing on their own feet - as the others should have done.
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  • When they first took my car into repair it. They changed out the power motor. About 2900 miles later I lost power steering again and the indicator came on. They towed the vehicle in and they told me it was fine. I said WHAT? ask the tow truck guy, because he could not even turn the steering wheel to get the car straight to get the wheels so he could pull it up on his truck. I heard him cursing the damn thing. Now of course this was about just a month ago before my car got hit on December 1st. So they fixed the power motor again, but my car would pull to the left or right and their was so much play in the steering wheel. When I took to an outside shop. They told me that after they changed the power motor, it would mess up the steering column because the end that goes in does not sit in full causing your car to have no traction. Or something to that effect.
    Not to sound weird, but in a way, I am glad my car got hit and totaled. Better someone to hit me and I take the bruises and all the hurting then me losing power and killing someone else.
    Now I can say my car is officially recalled so to speak. Of course I am without a vehicle because of the accident, but GM and the NHTSA do not care what happens to us. If they were concerned it would not take thousands of complaints. It should only take one or two to seriously look into this matter.

    Now the auto mechanic that looked over my car after the second power motor change out. Faxed his diagnoses to the NHTSA and said fixing that motor is not the issue it is in the computer module in the steering column and changing out the motor is only messing up the cars steering shaft and things like that.
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  • Here is my Vehicle after someone hit me. That could be the other way around if my motor went out a 3rd time and I hit someone.
    • Ted,
      I'm glad you are ok.
      As a retired Firefighter / EMT, I can tell you that according to that picture...at least the car did its job in protecting the passenger compartment!
      You are right about the further issue with the steering shafts in these cars. They have a common problem with the intermediate shaft. I'd be willing to bet that many of those who took their Cobalts in for the recall were told that they needed to replace the intermediate shaft (at your own expense, of course).
      Our (now former) dealer's service dept. told my wife she needed a new intermediate shaft*, a new tie rod end**, and that it needed an entire new steering column***.
      *The intermediate shafts on these vehicles is pre-lubed at the factory, and - even though it is not a sealed "joint" - there is no way to re-lubricate or otherwise service it. This leads to lesser amount of lubricant causing the splines to wear and causes the all-too-common clunking you'll hear when you go over bumps. They had the same problem in the Silverados.
      After hearing of the "laundry list" of additional repairs they tried to push on my wife, I called the service department (admittedly not too happy).
      I asked specifically WHY she was told that each item needed replacement. I was told that the tech test-drove the vehicle and felt a "chattering", which was why it needed an intermediate shaft. Ok...fair enough - its a common problem.
      **There was a very slight bend in the tie rod end - however - it had just been aligned, and was within spec. Had it required replacement, it would not have been able to be aligned without replacing it first.
      In addition, they told my wife that the outer tie rod was not available as a single part...and that the entire rack-and-pinion and all tie rods would have to be replaced from wheel-to-wheel (quoted somewhere between $700-1,000). I also questioned them on this, and they tried to tell me the same thing. I told them that I knew they were lying to me, because the car had slid into a curb once in the snow (thanks to a driver who pulled out right in front of us), which broke the control arm. The outer tie rod itself was replaced at that time - and I was looking at the receipt for that and even gave the service advisor the part number. They still denied it.
      I contacted our own mechanic, and he called and got a price for that exact outer tie rod end which was around $50. He got that quote from the parts department at the very same dealer that we took the car to. Hmmm...
      *** Now, we got to the steering column. They told my wife that the car needed an entire new steering column to the tune of nearly $2,000. When I questioned why THIS was necessary, I was told that when the tech test-drove the vehicle, he felt a "chattering" coming from the steering column. I questioned them on how - if he already said he felt the "chattering" from the intermediate shaft, and that was not replaced and isolated - how could they tell us that it needed a $2,000 steering column replacement??
      Of course, I never got a straight answer from them...but our own mechanic told me that a replacement of the steering column would run in the $700 range - including labor...a far cry from $2,000!
      In all, the dealer tried to take my wife for about $3,000 in un-needed "repairs"!

      Our mechanic also suspected the power steering control module - one of those several computers that operate in a loop. Oddly enough, replacement of that module requires replacement of the entire steering column!!
      He was able to isolate that and determine that that module was NOT the source of the problem with our vehicle though. He is suspecting either the transmission control module or the body control module.

      I have felt all along that the power steering assist motors were NOT the true source of the problems - I think it is clearly a computer module issue...but they wanted to take the easy way out.
      I have never owned anything but GM vehicles myself...but their lack of proper response to this issuemay turn me to the "blue side"...

      The NHTSA (like most government programs) is just a bloated, impoptent beaurocracy...but GM does need to step up to the plate and make these things right - or they will continue to suffer financially!!

      Best wishes on your search for a new vehicle, Ted!
      Merry Christmas to all, and please keep an eye on the little details on you Cobalts and stay safe!!
    • Ted,
      I'm glad you are ok.
      As a retired Firefighter / EMT, I can tell you that according to that picture...at least the car did its job in protecting the passenger compartment!
      You are right about the further issue with the steering shafts in these cars. They have a common problem with the intermediate shaft. I'd be willing to bet that many of those who took their Cobalts in for the recall were told that they needed to replace the intermediate shaft (at your own expense, of course).
      Our (now former) dealer's service dept. told my wife she needed a new intermediate shaft*, a new tie rod end**, and that it needed an entire new steering column***.
      *The intermediate shafts on these vehicles is pre-lubed at the factory, and - even though it is not a sealed "joint" - there is no way to re-lubricate or otherwise service it. This leads to lesser amount of lubricant causing the splines to wear and causes the all-too-common clunking you'll hear when you go over bumps. They had the same problem in the Silverados.
      After hearing of the "laundry list" of additional repairs they tried to push on my wife, I called the service department (admittedly not too happy).
      I asked specifically WHY she was told that each item needed replacement. I was told that the tech test-drove the vehicle and felt a "chattering", which was why it needed an intermediate shaft. Ok...fair enough - its a common problem.
      **There was a very slight bend in the tie rod end - however - it had just been aligned, and was within spec. Had it required replacement, it would not have been able to be aligned without replacing it first.
      In addition, they told my wife that the outer tie rod was not available as a single part...and that the entire rack-and-pinion and all tie rods would have to be replaced from wheel-to-wheel (quoted somewhere between $700-1,000). I also questioned them on this, and they tried to tell me the same thing. I told them that I knew they were lying to me, because the car had slid into a curb once in the snow (thanks to a driver who pulled out right in front of us), which broke the control arm. The outer tie rod itself was replaced at that time - and I was looking at the receipt for that and even gave the service advisor the part number. They still denied it.
      I contacted our own mechanic, and he called and got a price for that exact outer tie rod end which was around $50. He got that quote from the parts department at the very same dealer that we took the car to. Hmmm...
      *** Now, we got to the steering column. They told my wife that the car needed an entire new steering column to the tune of nearly $2,000. When I questioned why THIS was necessary, I was told that when the tech test-drove the vehicle, he felt a "chattering" coming from the steering column. I questioned them on how - if he already said he felt the "chattering" from the intermediate shaft, and that was not replaced and isolated - how could they tell us that it needed a $2,000 steering column replacement??
      Of course, I never got a straight answer from them...but our own mechanic told me that a replacement of the steering column would run in the $700 range - including labor...a far cry from $2,000!
      In all, the dealer tried to take my wife for about $3,000 in un-needed "repairs"!

      Our mechanic also suspected the power steering control module - one of those several computers that operate in a loop. Oddly enough, replacement of that module requires replacement of the entire steering column!!
      He was able to isolate that and determine that that module was NOT the source of the problem with our vehicle though. He is suspecting either the transmission control module or the body control module.

      I have felt all along that the power steering assist motors were NOT the true source of the problems - I think it is clearly a computer module issue...but they wanted to take the easy way out.
      I have never owned anything but GM vehicles myself...but their lack of proper response to this issuemay turn me to the "blue side"...

      The NHTSA (like most government programs) is just a bloated, impoptent beaurocracy...but GM does need to step up to the plate and make these things right - or they will continue to suffer financially!!

      Best wishes on your search for a new vehicle, Ted!
      Merry Christmas to all, and please keep an eye on the little details on you Cobalts and stay safe!!
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    I just had mine go out on me. I live less than a mile from the grocery store here and my power steering went out a total of 4 times (solved by me pulling over, turning it off and turning it on again.) At that time, I didn't know what the issue was. But since I've come home and had a chance to look online, I'm furious. I can't wait for morning to get here to I can call the dealership and hopefully get this thing fixed.

    It's winter here now and there is ice everywhere. It's barely safe for me to take in myself. :(
    • harpergrace89 ,
      I'm glad that you are safe. God was clearly looking over you!
      I have a couple of VERY IMPORTANT questions for you...
      1.) Have you had the power steering recall performed on yours yet?
      2.) What was the approximate temperature outside when this happened to you?? I assume, due to your "winter and there is ice everywhere" comment, that you live in a colder climate. It's important for us to know if this happened to you on a warmer day or a cold day (seems trivial, but could mae a huge difference in putting the puzzle together)!

      I agree with Ted...I hope yours is still under warranty!

      Have you had the chance to look through my previous post(s) regarding the other symptoms related to these issues?
      I have worked extensively with our own mechanic (one of the best out there) on this, and he has researched and tested as well.
      In case you have not seen my previous list, I'll copy and paste the it in this reply here. In order to gather the most information from the most people possible, it's very important that we all get into the details of this and find any and all "common links" in order to figure out what the exact TRUE culprit is here, so that we take the approprite steps to TRY to get this resolved.

      Would you please respond and let me / us know if you have experienced any of the following?:

      ***PLEASE*** WATCH FOR THESE SIGNS:

      - If you have an automatic transmission, and it is in "Park"...listen for a clicking sound. You SHOULD hear this when you press the brake pedal. It is your brake safety interlock relay that prevents you from putting the car in gear without pressing the brake pedal. Try pressing your brake pedal while the car is running and in Park so you recognize this sound. IF YOU HEAR THIS CLICKING WHILE IN PARK AND YOU ARE NOT TOUCHING THE BRAKE...BE CAREFUL!!

      - Watch for your traction control light on the dash. If you are in Park or Drive, and this light is on and stays on...BE CAREFUL

      - If you start up your car and your guages (or "information display") go crazy...BE CAREFUL

      - If you start up your car and notice you have no power steering...DON"T TRY TO DRIVE IT. You may be able to shut it off and remove the key (may take a few tries) and get it to return to normal function.

      - If you start up the car and shift it into "drive"...and it seems to "slam" into gear (it will be obvious)...don't drive it. There will likely be several other symptoms going on in order for this to happen. Basically, the computer system in this car has several computers all in a "loop", and they are just putting out "generic" communication error codes. When there are enough if these codes, the car goes into a "limp mode", where all the rail pressures in the transmission are maxed out, and it will seem to shift too soon as well as feeling like reduced engine power.
      Did you have any of these happen at the time of your issue(s)? Traction control light, clicking under dash / center console
      PLEASE>>> Anyone reading these posts...please keep a close eye for any or all of these symptoms. Some you may have to think about watching or listening for - some would be impossible to miss. ALL are important.

      I still believe that GM decided that the electric power steering assist motor only (I think it very well may have played a part - since we never had a problem until ours was replaced, but that indicates that there IS another issue in play here) was the cheaper option to make it look like they were "taking care of" the problem -
      BUT - we NEED SPECIFIC INFO from MORE PEOPLE!!!
      We NEED to take any and all action(s) needed to be able to force them to fix the ENTIRE, ACTUAL problem...BUT WE NEED MORE INFO FROM MORE PEOPLE.

      Once I get enough responses, I think that a couple of us need to organize to pursue this further.
    • harpergrace89 ,
      I'm glad that you are safe. God was clearly looking over you!
      I have a couple of VERY IMPORTANT questions for you...
      1.) Have you had the power steering recall performed on yours yet?
      2.) What was the approximate temperature outside when this happened to you?? I assume, due to your "winter and there is ice everywhere" comment, that you live in a colder climate. It's important for us to know if this happened to you on a warmer day or a cold day (seems trivial, but could mae a huge difference in putting the puzzle together)!

      I agree with Ted...I hope yours is still under warranty!

      Have you had the chance to look through my previous post(s) regarding the other symptoms related to these issues?
      I have worked extensively with our own mechanic (one of the best out there) on this, and he has researched and tested as well.
      In case you have not seen my previous list, I'll copy and paste the it in this reply here. In order to gather the most information from the most people possible, it's very important that we all get into the details of this and find any and all "common links" in order to figure out what the exact TRUE culprit is here, so that we take the approprite steps to TRY to get this resolved.

      Would you please respond and let me / us know if you have experienced any of the following?:

      ***PLEASE*** WATCH FOR THESE SIGNS:

      - If you have an automatic transmission, and it is in "Park"...listen for a clicking sound. You SHOULD hear this when you press the brake pedal. It is your brake safety interlock relay that prevents you from putting the car in gear without pressing the brake pedal. Try pressing your brake pedal while the car is running and in Park so you recognize this sound. IF YOU HEAR THIS CLICKING WHILE IN PARK AND YOU ARE NOT TOUCHING THE BRAKE...BE CAREFUL!!

      - Watch for your traction control light on the dash. If you are in Park or Drive, and this light is on and stays on...BE CAREFUL

      - If you start up your car and your guages (or "information display") go crazy...BE CAREFUL

      - If you start up your car and notice you have no power steering...DON"T TRY TO DRIVE IT. You may be able to shut it off and remove the key (may take a few tries) and get it to return to normal function.

      - If you start up the car and shift it into "drive"...and it seems to "slam" into gear (it will be obvious)...don't drive it. There will likely be several other symptoms going on in order for this to happen. Basically, the computer system in this car has several computers all in a "loop", and they are just putting out "generic" communication error codes. When there are enough if these codes, the car goes into a "limp mode", where all the rail pressures in the transmission are maxed out, and it will seem to shift too soon as well as feeling like reduced engine power.
      Did you have any of these happen at the time of your issue(s)? Traction control light, clicking under dash / center console
      PLEASE>>> Anyone reading these posts...please keep a close eye for any or all of these symptoms. Some you may have to think about watching or listening for - some would be impossible to miss. ALL are important.

      I still believe that GM decided that the electric power steering assist motor only (I think it very well may have played a part - since we never had a problem until ours was replaced, but that indicates that there IS another issue in play here) was the cheaper option to make it look like they were "taking care of" the problem -
      BUT - we NEED SPECIFIC INFO from MORE PEOPLE!!!
      We NEED to take any and all action(s) needed to be able to force them to fix the ENTIRE, ACTUAL problem...BUT WE NEED MORE INFO FROM MORE PEOPLE.

      Once I get enough responses, I think that a couple of us need to organize to pursue this further.
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  • Hopefully yours in under the recall and have it fixed for free. But be warned even if is is fixed, is not guaranteed. I say this because mine went out two times after the initial recall when they fixed what they believed to be the problem. I still feel the problem lies within the steering module in the column. They will not admit to that however because that is to costly to recall.
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  • It was about 20 degrees out.

    Mine went out of warranty pretty fast after I got it... It's an '07. Does that mean it's NOT going to be covered under the recall?!
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    • A safety recall applies to ALL effected vehicles - regardless of warranty status. However, the warranty only applied to vehicles within a certain range of VIN number.
      You can either call your GM dealer (if you have one you trust), or...
      You can register your vehicle with GM at:
      http://www.gm.com/gmownercenter/gm/?c...=
      (you may have to copy and paste it)
      It should tell you if there are any active recalls on the vehicle.

      There are two different posts that may come out about a given vehicle...service bulletins and safety recalls.
      Service bulletins are more for common issues that do not effect the safety of the vehicle, and are shared amongst dealers and other service providers to help resolve the issue sooner. However, you would have to bring the vehicle in with a complaint related to the service bulletin in order for them to address that issue - they would not automatically perform all service bulletin repairs on your vehicle if you had it in.
      Safety recalls are done either voluntarily by the manufacturer, or through a "forced" recall - such as a settlement or response to regulators. Generally they prefer the voluntary, as it looks much better for the company. Under a safety recall, a dealer would be obligated to perform the repair - per the arrangement or agreement reached, free of charge to the customer.
      The problem here is that it is quite clear that they seemed to have either chosen the far less-expensive approach of a simple electric motor swap-out (a relatively inexpensive part with a 20-minute or less labor process), vs. replacing a module such as the power steering control module (in which case it would require replacement of the entire steering column - nearly a full day of labor for every vehicle - a hole different ballgame when you are dealing with a rather large volume of vehicles.

      Either the power steering motors themselves were not the problem OR there is something in the motor's design (or even the way they are being installed) that is causing electrical shorts / failures in other modules.
      As in our case, we never had a single issue (other that the poorly-designed horizontal control arm bushings) with the vehicle. It has been ONLY since the new power steering motor was installed that we have had any problems.
      I have heard of some being diagnosed as the power steering control module - although ours (with the same "symptoms" tested fine when isolated (while the vehicle was acting up), which would point to another module.
      Any malfunction in any of the modules in the loop can cause the others to react inappropriately and (seemingly) malfunction. It is ONLY through isolation of each and every module WHILE THE VEHICLE IS MALFUNCTIONING that the true "culprit" module can be located. This is an extraordinarily time-consuming and difficult task to carry out when you are talking about an intermittent malfunction such as these issues.
      It's FAR past time that GM either puts enough engineers into studying and identifying the TRUE source of the problem - and provide that proper repair - not to mention reimburse those of us who have had to go without our vehicles for weeks or months on end while our own mechanics attempt to do what GM should have been doing for the past couple of years (while these mechanics still have their businesses to run).

      Hey GM...perhaps a fair market-value buy-back plan to offer people a way out, since YOU clearly do not care to provide customer service on these vehicles!?!?!
    • Hi Scott

      I hope you're still checking these postings as your investigations are the most thorough I've read so far with lots of efforts to break down the pb(s).
      My GF bought a 2006 Cobalt @~50k miles ~8 months ago. Now @~58k miles, she started to get the "power steering" + chime message + all gauges fluctuating. But no loss of EPS, so far. The only "physical" malfunction that we can clearly feel is on the transmission, that's it, nothing else. I wonder if it's just a matter of time. Your "limp mode" description exactly fits:
      "shift it into "drive"...and it seems to "slam" into gear...the car goes into a "limp mode", where all the rail pressures in the transmission are maxed out, and it will seem to shift too soon as well as feeling like reduced engine power". The car can very easily stall at a stop.
      The 1st time we had the pb, it was when we picked up the car late at night at the train station around 11p/12a, temperature kind of colder ~50F and kind of humid. The next morning, much warmer, no pb. Never happened during the "day" with higher temperatures.
      When we took it to our local mechanic, car was not acting up, the only code he got was "TCC solenoid", torque converter clutch remains abnormally engaged at speed lower than 50mph. Possible solutions for him= 1) replace solenoid 2) transmission flush. We did the less expensive= transmission flush, it was due anyway. Smoother transmission etc. No pb after almost 2 weeks of daily driving.
      But last night, we picked up the car, late at night at the train station...around 11p/12a, temperature ~50F and kind of humid, pb occured for the 2nd time. Temp/humidity effect?? You say hot is bad, I feel cold is bad...But this morning was chilly/humid @~45F, and no pb at all. So temp/humidity are out of the equation for me.
      The pb occured 2 times only so far.
      I was wondering if you finally were able with your mechanic to isolate the faulty controle module. To me it looks like it's the TCM since it's the only thing acting up for us, but actually could be any other computer module acting up and sending bad signals to the TCM, then TCM would act up...
      Also, reading Rick E Pearson, bad/crappy connectors could also very likely cause this kind of intermittent issues, did you try that with your mechanic?
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  • And no, I've not had anything fixed on mine except new tires.
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  • Just checked. It's under the 10 years, 100,000 miles warranty, just not the original.
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  • Harper,

    You need to contact Chevy and give them your VIn number to see if it under the recall. I got a letter in the mail about it. I was also one who complained to the NHTSA and GM. My cars original warranty was over but this is a safety recall. If your vehicle falls under the recall warranty, then it will be free of charge. If not- it can be really expensive to fix and like I said earlier. I got mine fixed for free and it still was not done right or what they fixed was not really the problem. But it is cheaper for GM to replace that and not the module in the steering column. Then they would have to replace the whole column or take it all apart and GM is not going to lose that kind of money investing in that. Even though to this day I still feel the power motor was not the issue and also seeing how they replaced mine twice only tells me that it is not the power motor but something far more worse then that.
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  • I’m pissed off!!!
    what a load of crap G.M. still wont do anything about my car it was totaled back in march the steering went out and the air bags did not diploy!!! i had a problem with it back when it was new 06 still under warranty the dealership could not mimic i was told it is a little hard to steer but it is new and it may take some time to loosen up. what b.s. is that to get me to leave?after all they were new cars and it made sense at the time but im a girl and don't know nothing about the complications of a vehicle. This is really pissing me off!!! how they won't deal with the rest of the consumers that are now with out a car they need to replace my car and not with a chevy cruz i don't think so!!!we need to come together and file a class action if anyone knows of one please let me know. kaylyn. kmarriew@gmail.com
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  • Ok folks.. I have been reading all of your problems and have something to tell you all...

    GET RID OF THE CARS.

    I work on electronics in cars everyday. I have seen this problem on a crapload of cobalts. IT'S NOT THE POWER STEERING UNIT AT ALL.
    The cobalt uses REALLY CHEAP (MADE IN CHINA) connectors at the BCM,PCM,and ECU. they are constantly losing connection. I have repaired them and fixed the (POWER STEERING) problem as well as the (HARD SHIFTING) problem and the (STUCK IN 2nd GEAR) problem, only to have them reappear.
    I have seen BLINKER problems, and shifting problems and weird things happening with the factory security... You are not alone. They used the same electrical system in the chevy CANYON, H3 HUMMER, COLORADO, PONTIAC G6, and a few others. the "cam lock" connectors on the cobal with tghe most problems are in the passenger side of the center console, behind the panel. (if you are sitting in the passenger seat, your left calf would be resting on the panel.)
    remove it, check the cam plugs. (2 of them) wiggle them and bet it buys you another 6 weeks....
    I have put some electrical grease in these connectors, and it has helped. but the connectors are just plain CRAP.
    SELL IT. It will only bring you grief.

    I have one in my garage as I type. I have to fix it for a customer.... SAME PROBLEM. sometimes its fine, then it runs rough, shifts hard, POWER STEERING light comes on, and then they have to stop, turn it off, and re-start it and hope the car is ok... or that it even starts... F@#&ing COBALTS..

    hey let me add an image...
    here is a pic of the crappy connectors.
    these are to the BCM.. and loop to the PCM.. both are faulty.



    P.S. I drive a 1997 HONDA PRELUDE. Not one problem in 140,000 miles.
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  • I’m I AM STILL STILL PISSED OFF
    i am seeking legal action and for almost a year now having a real heard time finding one my car was totaled cuz of the "POWER STEERING ASSIST" this is a load bull shit. G.M. has admitted to the faulty product has been responsable for 2 deaths that i know of and the rest of us who have lost their cars because of this crab. I am very surprised NO LAWYERS are diving into this this problem just doesn't effect one or fifty this is HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS plus that are being blown off!!!! i have to say it made me sick and pissed off when the G.M. spokes person said WE ARE DOING A VOLENTEER RECALL ON THESE CARS IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. ( HEY DUMB ASS WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF US????) we who have wronged by G.M. need to continue to file complaints, flood the federal and state and who ever els that will allow.We need to keep locating ALL LAWYERS THROUGHT THE U.S and send e-mails all the time.PLEASE THEY NEED TO HELD ACCOUNTABLE. I AM STILL PISSED OFF!!!!!!
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  • I’m i'm still sill and still pissed off that they can get away with ithis
    has anyone found or has heard of a lawyer that is paying attention to the rest of this disaster? i am still looking for one it has almost been a year sience my crash steering gone i did report it but still getting recall fliers to take it in to be fixed.I don't unerstand why no one will help us it's not like they wont get their fees payed.If anyone nows anything please let me know.
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  • Just got a used 2006 cobalt a month ago and power steering is acting up already..reding all your comments im scared im going to hav to replace system....have a feeling dealer ripped me off wtf
    • hey carlos,PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!!! i would not keep this car!!!! do some more research on this POS if you need more web sits to look at e-mail me kmarriew@g-mail.com i will give you some to read. There are certified mechanics that will tell you their take on what the real problem is the steering column,and the steering assist had been replaced 3 times and still went out and still more info for you.Please get rid of that car 2 people have already died as a result.If you want more info e-mail me i am also seeking legal help G.M. still has not made right what has gone wrong.replace my car that is my demand. I have been at this for almost a year now trying to find to find help.good luck with that POS if you get the steering assist replaced don't be fooled it may still go out PLEASE PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!! my prayers are with you
    • hey carlos,PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!!! i would not keep this car!!!! do some more research on this POS if you need more web sits to look at e-mail me kmarriew@g-mail.com i will give you some to read. There are certified mechanics that will tell you their take on what the real problem is the steering column,and the steering assist had been replaced 3 times and still went out and still more info for you.Please get rid of that car 2 people have already died as a result.If you want more info e-mail me i am also seeking legal help G.M. still has not made right what has gone wrong.replace my car that is my demand. I have been at this for almost a year now trying to find to find help.good luck with that POS if you get the steering assist replaced don't be fooled it may still go out PLEASE PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!! my prayers are with you
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  • I have a 2007 Chevy cobalt and my power steering went out and I hit a tunnel wall causing four thousand dollars worth of damage to my car and hurt my back. I contact GM about helping with my car and medical bills and I was turned down. I am currently looking for an attorney who is working on this recall case already but so far I have had no luck do you know of any?
    • probably because technically gm is bankrupt and up to their eyeballs in debt they probably cant afford to pay any lawsuits, so the lawers might think its a waste of time expecially since they would have to do a group lawsuit and when it was over, each person sueing would only get like 400 bucks!....

      I use to own a 07 chevy cobalt from new and it worked great for the four years before i wrecked it. Which i got skrewed because i owed more than what it was worth....apparently they arent even worth half their price when they are driven off the lot brand new!!!
      The power steering went out before the recall and they replaced it free for me since i was under warrantee and their power steering is a "maintainance free" system so there is no way it is "user fault" problem and they had to fix it.... even after i got it fixed, there was the recall and they still keep hounding me to this day to get my car in there to fix it but i havent had that car for almost two years!!! i wonder if i didnt wreck it, if it would have faulted again since they probably replaced the faulty ps with another faulty ps!
    • Unfortunately the power steering is not the actual issue. The issue lies in the steering column and it is the module that needs to be replaced. It cost more to replace that then the steering motor, so Gm said that was the problem! I had mine fixed three times and it still was not fixed. They just need to recall that car altogether or fix the real problem. I guess 74 deaths is okay and 1270 injuries is something they can live with. We are just bean counters and they rather pay each persons family who lost their lives a couple hundred thousand and be done with it. I did not have to worry about hurting someone else, let alone myself thank God as someone slammed into the back of my car and it went bye bye anyhow. I now went with Honda, because they treat their customers better than American motor car companies do any day.
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  • I had an accident last week with my Cobalt. I was on the highway when my power steering went out. I lost control of my car and it spun around almost overturning and then another car hit me. Does anyone have information about a class action lawsuite???
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  • so I know the last post was a yr ago but my car keeps going into limp mode and now stays in limp mode problem has been going on since power stering was fixed. The summer time seems to make it worse. mine is an 06. If anyone has a solution please let me know. Willing to join inlawsuit with others as well
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  • Hi Scott and all,

    I hope you're still checking these postings as your investigations are the most thorough I've read so far, with lots of efforts to break down/isolate the pb(s).
    My GF bought a 2006 Cobalt @~50k miles ~8 months ago. Now @~58k miles, she started to get the "power steering" message + chime sound + all gauges fluctuating. But no loss of EPS, so far. The only "physical" malfunction that we can clearly feel is on the transmission, that's it, nothing else. Maybe just a matter of time. Your "limp mode" description exactly fits:
    "shift it into "drive...and it seems to "slam" into gear...the car goes into a "limp mode", where all the rail pressures in the transmission are maxed out, and it will seem to shift too soon as well as feeling like reduced engine power". Also, the car can very easily stall at a stop.
    The 1st time we had the pb, it was when we picked up the car late at night at the train station around 11p/12a. Temperature kind of colder ~50F and kind of humid. The next morning, much warmer, no pb. Never happened during the "day" with higher temperatures.
    When we took it to our local mechanic, car was not acting up, the only code he got was "TCC solenoid", torque converter clutch remains abnormally engaged at speed lower than 50mph. Possible solutions for him= 1) replace solenoid 2) transmission flush. We did the less expensive= transmission flush, it was due anyway. Smoother transmission etc. No pb after almost 2 weeks of daily driving.
    But last night, we picked up the car, late at night at the train station...again around 11p/12a, temperature ~50F and kind of humid, pb occured for the 2nd time. Temp/humidity effect?? You say hot is bad, I feel cold is bad...But this morning was chilly/humid @~45F, and no pb at all. So temp/humidity are out of the equation for me. The pb has occured 2 times only so far.
    I was wondering if you finally were able with your mechanic to isolate the faulty controle module. To me it looks like it's the TCM since it's the only thing acting up for us, but actually could be any other computer module acting up and sending bad signals to the TCM, then TCM would act up...
    Also, reading Rick E Pearson, bad/crappy connectors could also very likely cause this kind of intermittent issues, did you try that with your mechanic?
    Also, previous owner could not tell if this car has seen the "recall" or not. If not, I'm afraid applying the recall "fix" would make things worse...
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  • I’m confident
    ------------MY FIX!!!! (or rather, prevention)-----------

    Car: Chevy Cobalt 2005 base model bought used in May 2013. Upon chatting with GM, they informed me that a recall had been redeemed already, so there was nothing I could do unless I paid out of pocket to fix the car.

    Problem:About 2 days after purchasing my cobalt, during a busy traffic section, my power steering light flicked on and the car began jerking each time acceleration was applied. The check engine light would then come on and remain on. If I stop at a light, my engine would stall and the car would need to be turned off and immediately turned back on, and the car would remain jerking with check engine light on. After the car is parked for 15 minutes-- upon returning to turn the car on, the check engine light would remain on, and the wheel would be impossible to turn(AKA complete loss of power steering).

    (My quick fix to wheel: Turn the car off and on at 1 minute intervals, eventually, the wheel would start turning again easily. However, the check engine light will remain on, and the car would still jerk while accelerating)
    (My quick fix to check engine light and jerking: Leave the car untouched for 1 or 2 days, when you return it should be back to normal. The check engine light MIGHT be on, but it will turn off eventually.)

    MY PREVENTION METHOD:
    After this occurred the second time, I noticed that each time this happened, it was raining out and there was traffic. After reading the manual, it said (along the lines of) that when the wheel is not being moved while accelerating for a period of time, it can cause problems within the power steering. I realized that because it was raining out, I tried to keep my steering wheel straight and immobile, leaving nothing for the electrical power steering system to do while I'm moving the car.

    NOW, whenever I'm driving I make sure that the steering wheel is in constant motion. Even when I am in traffic, I'd slowly move the wheel an inch or two (or half) from one side to the other to ensure that the wheel is in constant motion. I have NOT had a problem with power steering, jerking, stalling, or anything since! Car runs smooth!

    I cannot guarantee this will work for you, but I promise that this method has worked for me so far. Even though I should not even need to apply any method to make sure a car does not malfunction, this is to help anyone going through the problems that I was going through before. Again, this is just a method I have come up with, and I don't know if this will work for you, but it's worth a shot!

    Good luck guys!

    - A.
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