LEMFO LEM4 Pro 3G smart watch Android 5.1 compatibility?

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I found a unique gamers Android smartwatch/phone online today with 1G of RAM (LEMFO LEM4 Pro 3G).  It actually runs Android 5.1.  My question is could the GoodBudget app actually be run on that watch/phone?

I read that it is not even water resistant, so it would have to used under strictly bone dry circumstances and handled very carefully, but I was wondering if it could actually run the GoodBudget app on it and display the opening screen so I could view how much is in my food envelope on that smartwatch while in the grocery store.  If so, I might even be able to figure out if one of the watch buttons could possibly scroll the screen

If the GoodBudget app is compatible, I would like to purchase one to experiment with it.  I would like to see if I can get it to at least display the initial screen of GoodBudget on it.   

The smartwatch was designed primarily for gamers and naturally did not exactly excite them, all that much.  I would like to experiment with it to see if I could repurpose it to merely display the opening screen of GoodBudget so I could view my food envelope while in the grocery store.

I've always been an experimenter and it looked like a challenge I would enjoy taking on, but only if the Android 5.1 smartwatch/phone could actually install and run GoodBudget, of course. 

I fully understand that the smartwatch/phone's use would be extremely limited and that it would be very vulnerable to all of the bangs, bumps, scrapes and low-level moisture exposure of everyday life, but the idea is actually really intriguing to me.  I'm most interested if GoodBudget is even compatible with Android 5.1. 

If so, I would love to purchase it, and since I don't really want to acquire a SIM card solely for the smartwatch/phone, I would like to attempt to sideload or even possibly access the play store with it using WIFI to install and run GoodBudget.  If I am successful, I would, of course, be happy to share what I learn about the possibility here on the forum. :-)

Any comments, at all, about this idea would be welcome, indeed!

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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I like your thinking, but I wonder how practical it would be.  First, most smart watches are tethered to a phone.  Samsung has a model of their Gear S3 smart watch that has LTE connectivity built in, but I have never seen anyone use it as a replacement for a cell phone.  One problem is that the screens are so small for our fat fingers.  I would assume most people wearing a smart watch is carrying their cell phone as well.  Why would I try to enter a transaction on a tiny watch screen if I'm carrying my cell phone with a nice large display and comfortable user interface in my pocket?  Personally, I would just grab my phone.

Second, I'm not that familiar with many smart watches, but I suspect you would need to write a separate app to install on the watch.  This may be in the form of a widget that is paired with an app on your phone, or a standalone app that would need to written specifically for the small watch screen.  I doubt such an app exists.  You could write one, but I believe there would still need to be an API to the app on your smart watch.

It might be fun to experiment with creating a smartwatch app that logs into the web version (basically an embedded browser logging directly into the web version of Goodbudget).  However, I tried logging into Goodbudget from the Chrome browser on my phone, and there is no mobile version of their web site (it displays just the same as it does on my laptop screen and I have to zoom in on the part of the screen I want to make it big enough to read.  This would be even worse on a smart watch.  Some web apps will look at your screen resolution or detect that you are on a mobile device and adapt their display for your device.  Goodbudget does not do this.  I guess they assume you will use their mobile app if you want to log in on a mobile device.  Even at that, it still might be fun to try.
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Hi all, 

Goodbudget requires Android 5.0 and up for download. I also have a limited knowledge of smart watches, but I'd assume that if there's access to the Google Play Store, you might be able to download the GB app. I'm making no guarantees, however, because Goodbudget does not have dedicated smart watch app. So, you may only see / be able to download apps that have dedicated smart watch apps. If you can download it, it probably would not look great :/

Hope that helps!
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Hi Wayne,

Thanks for your thoughts, Wayne.  I had some of the same thoughts, so that is why I want to only view one envelope's balance on the watch, and maybe more if it is, at all, possible.  I always enter the transactions on my phone later on in the evening at home, anyway.  I view my envelope totals in the store only to see if I have enough in that envelope before making a purchase.

The watch can actually serve as a phone and can use it's own SIM card, but I see no reason to get a SIM card for it because my phone has one.  The watch can also use WIFI and Bluetooth.  It is also capable of surfing the web since it has the Chrome web browser in it, but it only has a 2-inch screen!  I doubt that the amount next to my food envelope would be readable on such a tiny screen, but I'm wondering if it would actually be readable in the GoodBudget app running on that tiny screen.  If it will run GoodBudget and I could at least read that figure, it would work for my purposes.  If I can get one or two of the buttons to simply scroll the screen, I would be able to view all of my envelope balances!

So if it could tun GoodBudget at all, it would be worth it to me to purchase the watch and experiment with it.  I would be happy to share anything I am able to do with it here on this forum.

If you have any other ideas or thoughts on this, please post them.  I have a wide open mind and am an experimenter at heart.  If it will actually run GoodBudget, it would be worth it to me for the experience of experimenting with it and to attempt to make it work for this rather limited purpose.  If the watch could actually scroll the screen, it could show all envelopes!  That could open up many other doors, as well!

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan
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I just found out from Tomtop customer support that the watch/phone can download, install and run any app on Google play, so I went ahead and ordered it for $99.00.  After I get it and have a chance to test it out, I will post what I found out about running the GoodBudget app on the Tomtop LEMFO LEM4 Pro 3G smartwatch that actually runs Android 5.1.

Cheers,

John Vander Stel

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I’m interested to know what you find.
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Oops!  Just noticed that it actually came to $99.90 with free shipping from China.  I'll be sure to report back here for you and everyone else, Wayne.  Now I feel like a kid in a candy store! :-)
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I got the smartwatch/phone and it can use a sim card, but I have not yet been able to figure out how to connect it to my home WIFI.  The user guide is tiny and does not offer any info on how to use the watch, at all, but I did find an excellent 10 minute tutorial on that particular watch on UTube.  It seemed to cover everything pretty well except WIFI. 

I've written their support team via the Tomtop website, but they failed to answer my question.  They simply and strangely referred me to an email address that seems to be their own!  I'm now asking the same question via email.  

Otherwise, the watch is actually rather interesting.  Their site from which I purchased it claimed that it supports 2G/3G/WIFI and it does have a slot for a sim card, but I have not been able to find mention of WIFI in the watch, at all.  I hope they can explain to me how to connect it to my home WIFI since I don't particularly desire to purchase another SIM card or mobile service for a watch.

I will be happy to post what I find out about his rather unique smartwatch/phone.

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan
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WIFI is kind of a generic term.  Does it mention anything about 802.11x protocols?  This would be the WiFi used in your home.  2G and 3G are mobile networks and you would need to have a sim card from your cellular carrier to support that.  If it supports Bluetooth, that would allow you to connect to your phone and you might be able to piggyback on the phone's internet access with that.
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Hi Wayne and all who might be interested in  a watch that could actually run the GoodBudget app,

I just ran across a video on UTube that finally shows the hidden menus on this watch so one can now use the WIFI on it.  I hadn't found anything more in that watch before, so my experimenting had come to a stop. 

Now with this video, I'll be starting my experiment again soon!  Check out the first URL below showing the hidden menu that I was not able to find and a review that shows the little mini manual in English.  I got a copy from the manufacturer in a PDF, but it was in reverse page order that made that hard to read. 

The second URL is a very thorough review that shows what it will do and what one can do with it.  It also shows that there is a tethering app that should connect it to one's smartphone.  A really great review that seems to indicate that the watch could be a remarkable device!

I also found another review that looks good.

So now I will have to break out the watch again and start experimenting again.

Check them out.  It looks like one actually can use this watch to run the GoodBudget app, after all!  Whether the envelopes can be scrolled up and down to see all of the envelopes 
remains to be seen, though.

So, all-in-all, it looks like this watch could end up being a very useful tool to actually view envelope contents on one's wrist... without paying for another account for smartphone service! :-)

The URLs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gLC3EKD2Ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX-iiIJ762A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVBxQ0gFgPs

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan

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