No Transfers Between Unallocated And Envelopes In Android App?

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On the website, direct transfers between [unallocated] and envelopes is offered, but is not in the Android app.  Is there any particular reason why this basic functionality wasn't allowed in the Android app as well, or was this just an oversight?

If not, please add "[unallocated] as a selection on the transfer envelope drop down menus as soon as possible.  That one action would make working with [unallocated] SO much easier!   It would eliminate a lot of confusion and make [unallocated] much less intimidating to the average user.

Also, I personally must maintain one dedicated monthly envelope soley for the purpose of intuitively handling multiple monthly incomes on my phone.  This functionality would actually free up an entire envelope for that use and make life much easier for multiple income users, as well!

Thanks in advance.  You guys and gals rock!

 
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I've wondered about not being able to transfer from unallocated to other envelopes on the android app as well. I was on the road this last week and had to use a workaround by only specifically depositing into a certain envelope and then transferring from there.
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Originally we limited how users could interact with the Unallocated, but we're changing our minds on this, but it takes time for the changes to get sorted out on every platform. Currently you can transfer money in/out of Unallocated through a Fill from Unallocated on the Android app. 
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Hi Steve,

So if one must move funds from an envelope to unallocated in the Android app, a negative distribution must actually be made, which is highly unconventional and un-intuitive for the average user.  That, in particular, continues to be a huge source of confusion, and that's why at least the same ability to do a direct transfer to or from [unallocated] in the Android app is needed so much.

Now, as for those with multiple incomes:

All of the other steps to handle multiple incomes don't come easily, but they could then be accomplished and reasoned out in a conventional way.  [unallocated] could then again serve its "dedicated" purpose of holding unallocated funds for those with multiple incomes, whether positive or negative... as opposed to using one or more separate dedicated "unallocated" type envelope(s) to represent the rest of the regular monthly incomes that have not yet come in and/or those funds that have already come in and are yet "unallocated."

So, as you can see, the process of handling multiple incomes is complicated enough for the user to reason out and fully impliment, without the requirement to resort to an unconventional and un-intuitive procedure that must be explicitly explained to each and every user with multiple incomes on a case by case basis.

Just my two cents, for what its worth. ;-P

You guys and gals have always rocked!  

I don't know when I would ever find myself in your area of the country, but if I ever did at one point in the future, I would love to be able to walk into the office and personally meet you and all of the other talented people behind the scenes.  I would have so much fun discussing all the current challenges, future plans and some of the unique ones that I personally faced many years ago when I developed my own virtual envelope budget program in a primitive form of BASIC.  Oh, and all of the innovative ideas I've tested, bad and good, and the many improvements I've made throughout the years. :-)

My own program is still fully functional and runs on my phone in an ancient computer emulation inside of a DOS emulator... but it is sooooo outdated!  

I've never been a trained programmer and the computer I worked with is a relic of he past, but I would love to personally share the benefit of my amateur experience while working in complete isolation, developing home grown and sometimes totally unique programming solutions to meet the many challenges throughout the years.  

I could learn SO much from your collective experience in working on a much larger scale as a very successful team on the cutting edge!

Cheers!

John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan
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Hi John,

You should absolutely visit us if you're ever around San Francisco!

Is there anything you'd like to see other than direct envelope transfers to/from Unallocated?
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Just a way in the Android app to also fill and add to all envelopes at once from unallocated, just like from income.  This isn't urgent, but it would make filling all envelopes from unallocated much less time consuming.

Thank you so much Steve. :-)
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Thanks for clarifying that. Yes, we added the set all / add all quickfill options for everyone on the web and it's definitely much easier. Thanks for all your patience John!