(My apologies if this topic has already been brought up. I scanned the topics list but did not find anything quite like what I had in mind.)
We know that having functioning irregular Envelopes with goal amounts/dates would be really helpful for you, but we've limited dev resources and right now, we've prioritized updating the Goodbudget webpage and working on bug fixes. You can take a look at what we're working on here: https://goodbudget.com/2013/11/do-ove.... We do want to be open with you and let you know that because we've dedicated our time to the features on the list, we won't be implementing irregular Envelopes this year.
You'll _not_ have more subscribers because of another name. People pay to get features not for a name. Google, Yahoo and others didn't get successful because of their name but because they provided features what users asked for.
Irregular envelopes are a key feature that it seems that users over the last 4 years have voted on with their +1's the most times. I hope it gets done. I certainly hope the remaining "do over" features promised don't take the rest of 2014 -- just to essentially get us where we were, albeit with an updated interface and an income report.
After the "do over" features are re-implemented, I'd love to see some sort of feature road map. I understand dates are tough to promise and resources are generally fixed, but something indicating "we are actively working on it" instead of just permanently "under consideration".
This is still a great service. It has many features. I use it every day. It has made a huge difference in the management of my families finances. I thank you for it.
Looking forward to upcoming improvements.
Thanks for your understanding and it's true that we've been focused on updating the user interface lately. This does mean that a lot of good ideas, like having goal Envelopes have been pushed back in the list. I'd personally love to use this feature as well--it would be great to save up for my next vacation that's coming in up 3 months.
You're right that it won't take us the rest of 2014 to implement the "do over" features. After finishing the webapp updates, we will be updating the Android user interface, giving it a much-needed and requested re-skin.
Financial Goal Envelopes.
I think it would be a good idea for EEBA to develop "goal" envelopes. A user could set up a goal envelope like "Hawaii Trip", set an amount they would like to have "$3,000" and a date they want that goal to be accomplished, "May 01, 2013." EEBA would do the math to show the user how much money they would have to set aside each week/month and tell the user if they were on track, behind, or ahead of meeting their goal. These goals envelopes would be very helpful for my wife and I in our financial planning and I believe it would be another wonderful draw to help prospective customers choose EEBA.
I hope that is helpful.
Irregular envelopes for large purchases.
I love EEBA and have considered purchasing, but there is one thing I'd like to see implemented before I do. The annual/irregular envelopes are great, but it seems they are only annual, not irregular. For example, if I'd like to buy myself a new TV set in, say, 6 months, for about $600, I'd like to be able to create an envelope for that, and set the frequency of payments into that envelope so that I'll have enough money in 6 months.
Over 4 years ago it was suggested to be able to apply time frames to irregular envelopes????
So in 4 years a solution to this very practical and useful need has not been resolved?
Will it ever be? This fact alone will is enough for me to ask for a refund.
Why not eliminate the two separate sets of envelopes: Monthly and Irregular, and make only one set of envelopes, consisting of _fully_ flexible envelope types.
Each envelope could easily and most flexibly be individually defined in terms of the following type of selection with fill-ins:
o Every _ Day(s)
o Every _ Week(s)
o Every _ Month(s)
Next Due Date _________
In this way, a simple monthly envelope would be set up simply as "Every 1 Month(s)"
Goodbudget's white line on each envelope's graphic bar could be made to easily show how much should be in the envelope at the present time, no matter what kind of envelope it is. This would also easily tell the user know how much money to transfer into a newly created envelope to make it considered "up to date". :-)
Just my 2 cents.
John Vander Stel
Grand Rapids, Michigan
WHY IS IT TAKING SO LONG??.
Why is it taking so long for your programmers to build the envelope system to work correctly?????
We need a proper grouping system for envelopes and need to be able to choose the period they run for so that we can track spending progress because having only the choices of weekly or monthly and irregular is not good enough!!
We're at the beginning stages of design which includes brainstorming, sketching and discussing ideas for this feature. Then we'll move into designing wire frames and getting development estimates. It's hard to say how long each of these stages will take at this time.
We'd love to hear more of your ideas re: how you want the Envelopes to look like as this will help us in the design process. (Thanks John Vander Stel!)
For example, I plan to upgrade my PC and buy a new lense for my camera. I have a rough cost estimate, but no date as it is not a pressing issue. So I would like envelopes which have no due dates, they do not go into overall budget, but I could fill them up when I have some spare cash after all other envelopes have been funded.
So essenially it would be nice to see budget envelopes to be split into 3 groups rather than existing 2:
* [period(monthly/weekly)] budget - as they are now
* reagular expenses - reacuring or one of expenses with start and due dates. This would allow for a little slider like in period envelopes to track progress of filling/spending them
* savings envelopes - envelopes with no due dates, that would allow to show savings and goals for unspecified time.
Should note that first two groups would go into calculating period budget, while the last one would be the residual and not part of period budget.
Just wanted to let you know that we’ve just released Goal Envelopes and Annuals with a due date on the Goodbudget website! You can create them on the Add/Edit page in Goodbudget on the web (https://goodbudget.com/envelope/edit).
Under the “More Envelopes” section, you can add one-time Goal Envelopes and/or give your Annual Envelopes a due date, and Goodbudget will help you reach your goal on time by suggesting how much you need to fill each time based on how many budget periods you have left before your due date. What if you add extra money from a bonus paycheck or transfer funds from another Envelope? Goodbudget will count that as well, and adjust the suggested fill amount so that you can reach your goal earlier without going way over. Once you've reached your goal, we'll stop suggesting a fill amount for your Envelope.
You'll be able to see your Goal Envelopes on your Android and iPhone once you've created them on the web, and we'll be adding the ability to create them through your phone early next year.
Create new goal Envelopes or add due dates to existing ones this weekend! We'd love to hear your feedback on this new feature next week! Please email email@example.com with your thoughts.
I set both to 'goal' and specified a date for each and saved (2 different dates in 2015). One envelope seems to be working as expected, one does not.
On the 'edit envelope' screen, one shows the suggested monthly amount -- that one looks good. The second envelope just shows '0.00', when it should be showing an amount of $38 and change a month.
Going to the 'fill enevelope' page -- with add all,
The working goal envelope is suggesting the correct amount...
the other, suggests 0.00.
Am i doing something wrong?
If I toggle the envelope type to annual (leaving the date), then click elsewhere, the page will refresh the amount BUT the amount is seems wrong (like it's not considering the balance already in the envelope). Though i'm a little confused on the difference between a goal env with a date, and an annual with a date.
I'll mess with it more, but something seems amiss.
my household name is the same as my posting here,
Do these things reset after your reached the goal and spend the savings?
Are these 'goal' type envelope meant to be one-time use only?
If so, I'd need to create (then ultimately delete) a goal envelope for each savings goal, even if they occur annually?
Sorry, i'm probably just not getting this new stuff yet. Just trying to wrap my brain around how you intended them to be used.
Still experimenting with them.
We wanted to let you know that you can now create Goal Envelopes and Annuals with due dates on your Android phones!
To create one on your Android, tap on the three vertical dots > Edit Envelopes > +Add Envelope. Then, change the Budget Period to ‘Goal’ for your one-time savings, or ‘Every year’ to create Annuals that repeat yearly. Don’t forget that you can add a due date to both.