"The Good Place" TV series: "Everything Is Great!" is one episode, not two

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For "The Good Place" TV series (tt4955642), what is currently listed on IMDb are episode 2.1 Everything Is Great! Part 1 (tt6487100) and episode 2.2 Everything Is Great! Part 2 (tt7065430). These are not two separate episodes, but rather one episode. I have been trying to merge the two unsuccessfully as I believe another contributor does consider them two separate episodes (what are listed on screen as Chapters 14 and 15).

Supporting evidence that they should be one episode (i.e. what should be listed as episode 2.1) include:
  • there being only one set of credits i.e. there is no separate sets of credits for Chapters 14 and another for Chapter 15.
  • there is no separate title cards for Chapters 14 and 15, they being listed as such right at the beginning of the two chapters combined.
  • it aired as only continuous episode.
  • the primary American distributor, NBC, categorizes it as one episode, with the subsequent episode, what is currently listed on IMDb as episode 2.3 Dance Dance Revolution, being classified by NBC as episode 2.2 (as such, as season 2 episodes from 2.3 onward should be moved down one i.e. 2.3 should become 2.2, 2.4 should become 2.3, etc.).

Here is the link to the NBC series webpage for information: https://www.nbc.com/the-good-place?nbc=1
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Hi Gene -

Thanks for your report, since the episode did not air in separate parts back-to-back, the two episodes have now been combined to a single episode listing. The change should be live on the site shortly.  Cheers!
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Now you need to do the same for Season 3. All the titles are off because the first episode to air is actually a double, 1 + 2. "Janet(s)" should be Ep. 10, not 9.
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Hi Know Fulin -

Based on several sources, we were unable to verify that "Janet(s)" is numbered as episode 10.  If you have differing online sources, can you post the links here for our staff to take a look?
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Thanks Michelle.
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I disagree that this is a single episode. It does have separate credits, i.e. there are two separate writers identified. The Good Place also says that it is "Chapter 14 & Chapter 15". If it were a single episode, it would only be "Chapter 14". There is a clear delineation of episodes 1/2 hour into the single hour shown.

By the way, this isn't the first time that The Good Place has aired back-to-back episodes. It would be the first time they were considered a single episode. Chapters 1 & 2 aired together (Pilot and Flying) as did Chapter 12 & 13 (Mindy St. Claire and Michael's Gambit). They had very similar credits.
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Hi Adrian -

Sometimes television programs air two-part episodes.  If the two parts are very clearly separated (separate titles or a separate title card), then they should be entered as two separate episodes (with "Part 1/Part 2" on the end of the title if they don't have unique titles). However, if they are run together as one long episode on original airing (with one set of credits), then they should be treated as a single episode, even if they are separated in reruns, syndication, or other later airings.

If you are certain that the episodes were aired back-to-back separately, can you post some evidence to help verify this here?
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I don't know why my other reply isn't directly under here. If this is two episodes aired back to back (as opposed to 1 continuous episode), I'd have several questions about the credits as shown on TV.

1) The title card for this episode clearly states it is Chapters 14 & 15. For this particular show, a chapter is an episode. If this were a single episode, it would be a single chapter.

2) Why are the writers credited as they are? Chapter 14 written by Jen Statsky, Chapter 15 written by Joe Mande. This is a pretty clear indication there are two episodes here. If this were a single, the writing credit would be more along the line of "written by Jen Statsky & Joe Mande".

3) Why is this different than the other two "double episodes" for this particular show (and for the moment discounting thousands of other double episodes for other shows) in that it should be considered a single episode.

The only case I can see to be made is that the credits were presented together. (This is generally the case for back-to-back episodes to give more time to the episodes themselves. I'd say only 5% of shows--and I watch hundreds of shows--actually run separate credits for both episodes.) However, it does designated which credits are different for each episode. In this case, it is only the writer. This, however, is not that unusual. Most of the crew for most episodes of a television season is 95% the same. The only positions that seem to vary are director, assistant director and writers. In this case, the same director and ADs worked both episodes.
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Michelle, the most compelling evidence is that the title card identifies these as Chapter 14 & 15. This means they are two separate episodes (despite having almost identical cast and crew). There is a separate writer for each chapter. This isn't a segmented show. If it were one long episode, both writers would be credited without attribution. If you are a fan of the shows, you can tell where one episode ends and the next begins without aid if title cards. 

If the separate credits aren't enough to designate them as separate episodes, you'll need to change the two "double" episodes referenced above along with literally thousands of other episodes that ran back to back and shared common credits while designating the ones that are different. 
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Thank you for your message Adrian,

According to our sources and our own research, the two sections first aired as one continuous hour-long episode, and the content was divided into two separate chapters. As this originally released as one episode we believe it is currently listed correctly on the site.

Thank you for your understanding.
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Meredith,

I do not understand because I have I have been continually pointing out, it is not a single hour long episode. There are indeed separate credits (though only for a single position as all other positions were consistent for the two episodes). Why is that you or Michelle will not answer my questions? Most pressingly why you consider this a singe episode but not the other two nights where the Good Place did exactly the same thing and they are considered two distinct episodes? (Let's not mention all the other shows that do exactly the same thing and have the episodes considered distinct.)

To consider this one case as an hour long episode, instead of the two half hour episodes it is intended to be will frustrate and confuse users in the future. This is one of the reasons I nearly quit contributing. Policies are enforced randomly and inconsistently. Of the available episodes of the Good Place almost 40% (6 of 16) have aired as back to back episodes. This is now the first case that they are only considered a single episode.

Here is an article on the renewal notice for season 2 which states "Like with the first season, the single-camera comedy, designed for shorter runs from the get-go, Season 2 will consist of 13 episodes." (http://deadline.com/2017/01/the-good-place-renewed-season-2-by-nbc-1201897567/). By designating Chapters 14 & 15 as a single episode (instead of the intended 2 episodes), you will shorten season 2 to only 12 episodes.

I can't be the only one that thinks this as I wasn't the original person that separated the two episodes.