11 BIggest Oscar Shockers of All Time: Rocky? Really?

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I don't know who made the list of the 11 Biggest Oscar Shockers of All-Time, the one that pops up now and then during awards seasons on IMDb frontpage, but seriously, what's the problem with "Rocky"?

Granted "Rocky" was the underdog in the Oscar race and Lumet, Pakula, even Scorsese were seen as frontrunners or more 'prestigious' contenders, but this list is looking at the previous wins from a present look. Many of these wins are still regarded as major upsets but "Rocky" stood the test of time, didn't it?Aand while the sequels didn't hold up as well, the first film is a classic in its own right:

- It also won the Golden Globe for Best Drama
- It was a sleeper hit and the highest-grossing movie of the year
- The main character was an instant icon that inspired (and still inspires) millions of people from all generations and all over the world
- it was featured in more than six lists from the American Film Institute: Heroes (Rocky is in the Top 10), Quotes, Movies, Songs, Sport Films, Cheers (Rocky is #4)
- it's as culturally significant as "Taxi Driver" and far more iconic than "Network" or "All the President's Men"
- it's only a feel-good movie from the ending's perspective, the rest of the film has a gritty and realistic quality about it, and even the happy ending was realistic in the sense that he didn't win the fight

And so on and so forth, I can understand why its win might upset some fans of  darker or more politically loaded movies, but to list it among the biggest shockers of all time is a bit of a stretch. I think the film deserves more respect.
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Rocky's win is like Forrest Gump's Gump victory in 1994.Both are regarded as good films but their competition have gone down as all-time classics which always casts a shadow over their victories
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But that's my point, what makes exactly "Forrest Gump" less a classic than "Pulp Fiction" or "The Shawshank Redemption", however you define a classic (quotability, memorable scenes, parodies, cultural significance...) I don't see what makes "Forrest Gump" a lesser film. Now, that goes for "Rocky". All right, let's even consider that "Taxi Driver" is more iconic (which is debatable) but if we're talking of universal and timeless appeal, I think "Rocky" is far above "Network" and "All the President's Men" put together. One can even hate "Rocky" and admit that the film is an all-time classic.
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Hi Sdk -- Thanks for commenting on our editorial feature about Surprise Oscar Winners. We don't disagree with you that Rocky has proven to be an enduring classic that is worthy of much praise (and repeat viewings!). We love the movie, too!

What we were attempting to highlight in this list are films and actors whose wins emerged from a strong field of competitors. In this case, 1977 was a vintage year for Best Picture contender. We'll see if we can make that more clear.
Thanks so much again,
Bret
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Yo, Bret,

Well, I'm glad you loved the movie, because I loved it too, as much I loved the other Best Picture nominees. In fact, 1976 happens to be the only year that has 4 Best Picture nominees all listed in the American Film Institute's Top 100 (the two editions) so any Best Picture win would have been an upset to some degree. From that perspective I (sort of) understand the idea of putting "Rocky" here.

My issue was that, if the reasoning that lead to the inclusion of "Rocky" was to be extended, then you could have included "Forrest Gump" as well (beating "Shawshank" and "Pulp Fiction") or "In the Heat of the Night" (beating "Bonnie and Clyde" and "The Graduate") etc., the fact that only "Rocky" emerged from that 'classic vs. other classics' pattern made me feel that there was a little bias against it... not to mention the use of the 'shocker' word. .

Never mind, I'm glad it was only words misleading me.

Thanks,

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