1 Live Poll 1 Suggestion: Favorite Royal or Noble Oscar-Nominated Performance?

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The 2019 award season may very well be the year of the the royal or noble Oscar-nominated performance. The year includes notable performances by Olivia Colman, Emma Stone and Rachel Weisz in The Favourite (2018) and Saoirse Ronan and Margot Robbie in Mary Queen of Scots (2018) among others. Most of these performances are generating early award buzz, garnering other award season nominations and are Oscar short-listed in the lead-up to the Oscars.

Favorite Royal Oscar-Nominated Performance?

Which of these select Oscar-nominated performance depicting a movie character of the immediate royal* family is your favorite? * King, Queen, Prince, Princess, Emperor, Emperoress, Dictator and Dictatress (real-life or fictional)

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See the partial IMAGE list of Oscar-nominated royal character performances here: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls040489608/

Favorite Noble Oscar-Nominated Performance?
Which of these Oscar-nominated performance depicting a noble* rank or noble-born movie character, excluding the immediate royal family is your favorite? * Duke, Duchess, Marquess, Marchioness, Earl, Count, Countess, Viscount, Viscountess, Baron, Baroness, Lord, Lady or other noble-born characters (real-life or fictional)

Live Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/V17dccMerj4/

See the partial IMAGE list of Oscar-nominated noble character performances here: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls040419058/
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Royal or Noble Oscar-Nominated Performance Honorable Mentions
Royalty Characters

Jack Oakie, The Great Dictator Benzini Napaloni: Dictator of Bacteria

Charles Laughton The Private Life of Henry VIII. Henry VIII: King of England

John Barrymore Marie Antoinette Louis XVI: King of France

Charles Boyer Conquest Napoleon Bonaparte: Emperor of France

Peter Ustinov Quo Vadis Nero: Emperor of Rome

Basil Rathbone If I Were King Louis XI: King of France

Bette Davis, Brian Aherne Juarez Maximilian von Habsburg: Emperor of Mexico
Nobility Characters


Lewis Stone The Patriot Count Peter Alekseyevich Pahleni

Frank Morgan The Affairs of Cellini Alessandro de' Medici, Duke of Florence
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Rex Harrison, Cleopatra Gaius Julius Caesar, Dictator of the Roman Republic

Gale Sondergaard, Anna and the King of Siam Lady Thiang, Princess Consort

Maria Ouspenskaya Dodsworth Baroness von Obersdorf

Emil Jannings The Last Command Grand Duke Sergius Alexander/General Dolgorucki

Norma Shearer Romeo and Juliet Juliet - Daughter to Lady Capulet

Basil Rathbone, Romeo and Juliet Tybalt - Nephew to Lady Capulet

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My vote from the list of Royals: Lucius Aurelius Commodus
My vote from the list of Nobles: Winston Churchill
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Hello Movie Fans,

While looking forward to the 91st Oscar Nominations, my vote is for Norma Shearer as Marie Antoinette in the title role. (1939)
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Nothing like an oldie, but a goodie!!
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Typos:
The 2019 award season may very well be the year of the royal or noble...

Which of these Oscar-nominated performances depicting...
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The 2019 award season may very well be the year of the the royal or noble...


Which of these Oscar-nominated performance depicting...

I corrected listed duplicate "the" word and singular "performance" use
on both poll suggestions.

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I would take issue with including Chaplin's Hitler parody as a "royal".

Same goes for Idi Amin, though I have a feeling we have discussed this before somewhere.
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Oops, you did it again. The extra-long text with nothing new inside. Wouldn't it be more fruitful to also analyse the others' opinions?

You are mixing three different things into one: royal, dictator, emperor. If the simpliest links provided are not enough for understanding, please try M.Webster and other special sources.

There would be no objections, if you, e.g., prepare the poll one of the following variants:
  • Call it "Favorite Dictator Performance" and include there all known dictators, who can be a member of royal family (Tsar, Duke, Prince(-ss), King, Queen...) or not be such one (Prime-Minister, President, Caesar...);
  • or Call it "Favorite Emperor Performance" and include there all known emperors, who can be both royal or not royal family - it depends on the fact they rule more than one nation and country;
  • or Leave the same name for your poll but exclude the terms "dictator" and "emperor", as well as relative fictional characters.

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I don't think you fully understand the complexity of the issue. What you suggest is just trading is just one set issues for another set of issues. Even by using the same peerage term doesn't guarantee consistency, as it  can mean different things in different countries, periods and circumstances.  Plus, authoritative sources support the terms are synonyms for each other, rather than your contention that they are not."You are mixing three different things into one: royal, dictator, emperor." This also would apply to their female versions of the male term. https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/emperor

Synonyms for emperor noun ruler
I gave all of this prior thought and factoring in everything; I thought the best course of action is to use a broad definition and allow individual poll takers to decide for themselves. Your solution is really no solution at all.
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No doubt "This also would apply to their female versions of the male term" - this is not the problem if you understand the main idea of the objections.

"Authoritative sources support the terms are synonyms for each other" - name them and links, please.

"I don't think you fully understand the complexity of the issue" - this statement of yours is really out of my understanding because I see no issue in the topic relative to your poll, but only the issue in the way you present it. The only tolerant variant you used above is the word "ruler", so thank yourself to have the 4th variant to name your poll - just using "ruler" instead of "royal".

PS: the synonyms you quote above may be close in some context, but you should check their definitions to understand the difference that in this current case may mislead other people.
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"the synonyms you quote above may be close in some context,"  Please, check the definition of synonym.

1 : one of two or more words or expressions of the same language that have the same or nearly the same meaning in some or all senses

It is not a stretch to assume similarly titled characters are basically the same. Synonyms are by their very nature slight variations, it would be pointless to have twenty words that all mean exactly the same thing. As for misleading people, I specifically define my terms within the question for the purpose of the question. However, I can't help if people mislead themselves with connotations that go beyond the meaning of the word or invoke their own ethnocentric biases.
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post award season introduction and question updates

The most recent award season secured Olivia Colman Best Actress awards at the Oscars, the Golden Globes and BAFTA film award ceremonies. The year also included Oscar-nominated performances by Emma Stone and Rachel Weisz in The Favourite (2018) and the BAFTA-nominated and SAG-nominated performance by Margot Robbie in Mary Queen of Scots (2018) among others.

Favorite Oscar-Nominated Sovereign Performance

Which of these select all-time Oscar-nominated performances depicting a movie character of a countries' immediate ruling* family is your favorite? * King, Queen, Prince, Princess, Emperor, Emperoress, Dictator and Dictatress or other equivalent (real-life or fictional).

Favorite Oscar-Nominated Noble Performance?

Which of these all-time Oscar-nominated performances depicting a noble* rank or born-to-nobility movie character, excluding the immediate royal family is your favorite? * Duke, Duchess, Marquess, Marchioness, Earl, Count, Countess, Viscount, Viscountess, Baron, Baroness, Lord, Lady or other noble-born characters (real-life or fictional)
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Thanks
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POLL ADMN PLEASE CORRECT

The Live Poll: https://www.imdb.com/poll/V17dccMerj4/ was erroneously placed under Favorite Royal Oscar-Nominated Performance? instead of correctly under Favorite Noble Oscar-Nominated Performance? The poll suggestion regarrding Oscar-nominated royal character performances has yet to go live.

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Corrected.
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Thanks, it is much appreciated.

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Favorite Oscar-Nominated Noble Performance?
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Typo: 
 * King, Queen, Prince, Princess, Emperor, Empress ...

Are you sure all the options in the list are still valid, since you changed "royal" to "sovereign"?
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Thanks, I changed it back to Royal and corrected Empress. I was trying to placate someone's perceived issue, but it created a new problem, as you point out. I defined the scope to the ruling family, meaning the sovereign and the immediate family. I think I have clearly stated what title and the question's scope covers also. It should be good to go now.
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