A way to identify first name and last name?

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Hi,

Score of displayed names are made of more than two elements. If you are not familiar with the culture of the country of origin, it makes it difficult to identify which element(s) make up the first name, and which the last.

E.g. Anna Soler Cepriá: is she "Cepriá, Anna Soler" or "Soler Cepriá, Anna"?

Unless mistaken, there is no way to find out on the site. Or am I missing something?




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Hi, Vincent Fournols. Yes, there is a way. Click the "Edit page" button and scroll all the way to the bottom of the submission interface page. In the case of Anna Soler Cepriá, she is
Soler Cepriá, Anna
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Thanks Jeorj, I had not spotted that!
Not the most convenient, but I will definitely live with it :)
Thanks again.
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This is actually quite important, because for example, both "Jay, May Ray" and "Ray Jay, May" would show up as "May Ray Jay" in the public/external view of the site. I recently uncovered a similar case but which turned out to be the same person, so I merged the name entries.
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That's a good point. Many sites deal with this in different ways. Two I know of is to either have the family name in all caps (Tom CRUISE) or to put family name first with comma after (Cruise, Tom).


Trouble is, neither is natural language usage. Hence my preferred way, would be to have the site underline the family name (Tom Cruise).
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Well, thanks anyway Jeorj: one year ago, you noticed in that thread that it is under consideration, and that thread is 5 years old... :D
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In fact that thread already mentions a previous comment from 2009 saying "coming soon". So only a decade later we're still waiting, lol!
Funny how another database site Discogs.com did this years ago, under a fraction of the staffing levels IMDB has, as they identified it was a potentially major problem much earlier.
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I guess the intricacies and obsolescences of the previous systems, abandoned at the end of last year, could not make unicode a standard across the different IMDb platforms.
But now the future looks so bright... ;)
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Well, IMDb had a lot of burdens, so to speak, which were slowly eliminated throughout the time from late 2016 to early 2018. The defense that the IMDb founder uses is the the site is just so big, as in having millions of visitors per hour, and millions of contributions per week. Like any website maintainer, the last thing the company wants to do is take the website offline even if just for a minute. I don't know why they will not commit a few resources into building a publicly-accessible test website built out of cloned data.
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