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A troll (jiilo-kim) just told me to "Plz do us all a favor and go kill yourself." And yes, I have reported this person. I reported him twice before, but was unable to report this last post because IMDb said it has already received enough complaints about him (presumably because of my previous complaints). If he had made that statement to a young severely depressed person, who knows what could have happened? My nephew shot himself. When a person is severely depressed, sometimes all it can take is a comment like that to push them over the edge.
This person has been on this board for one year. Obviously someone like that has had previous complaints filed against them. And I have encountered many other really nasty trolls here that have been members of IMDb for many years.
And here's the main point of this post: Why are all these trolls still allowed to post here? I have been on a wide variety of message boards for the past 13 years and have never encountered anything like what I have encountered on the IMDb boards.
And it's not just an issue of how trolls treat other members, there is also a huge problem with people bashing actors as well as trolls bashing TV shows they haven't even seen.
Here's how things work on a well-run message board:
- The rules of the board are very clearly presented to a new member before they join.
- If a person violates a rule, they are given a warning and told what rule they violated.
- If a person violates a rule again they are temporarily banned.
- When the person returns, if they violate a rule again, they are permanently banned.
I have seen this policy referred to as "Three strikes and you're out." Of course, some boards are more lenient then others and may give more than one warning before the person is temporarily banned, but they aren't just given warnings forever.
When a person is banned, the message board software keeps a record of the person's IP address so that they can't join again with that IP address.
People who use proxy servers are not allowed to join the board.
This policy is very simple and can be implemented even if a board relies on members to report abuse.
So, why doesn't IMDb implement this kind of policy? Allowing people like jiilo-kim to remain is utterly irresponsible. If IMDb can't police its boards properly, they should be shut down.
This person has been on this board for one year. Obviously someone like that has had previous complaints filed against them. And I have encountered many other really nasty trolls here that have been members of IMDb for many years.
And here's the main point of this post: Why are all these trolls still allowed to post here? I have been on a wide variety of message boards for the past 13 years and have never encountered anything like what I have encountered on the IMDb boards.
And it's not just an issue of how trolls treat other members, there is also a huge problem with people bashing actors as well as trolls bashing TV shows they haven't even seen.
Here's how things work on a well-run message board:
- The rules of the board are very clearly presented to a new member before they join.
- If a person violates a rule, they are given a warning and told what rule they violated.
- If a person violates a rule again they are temporarily banned.
- When the person returns, if they violate a rule again, they are permanently banned.
I have seen this policy referred to as "Three strikes and you're out." Of course, some boards are more lenient then others and may give more than one warning before the person is temporarily banned, but they aren't just given warnings forever.
When a person is banned, the message board software keeps a record of the person's IP address so that they can't join again with that IP address.
People who use proxy servers are not allowed to join the board.
This policy is very simple and can be implemented even if a board relies on members to report abuse.
So, why doesn't IMDb implement this kind of policy? Allowing people like jiilo-kim to remain is utterly irresponsible. If IMDb can't police its boards properly, they should be shut down.
Posted 7 years ago
Dan Dassow, Champion
bluesmanSF, Champion
The block on reporting again lasts until pending reports are handled. Then you can report again. That said, staff prefers we report, then ignore. The system values reports from separate users rather than mass reports from one person. While I understand you want to see it through and cause the troll to be disciplined, it's far better to report, use ignore, then move on. Frequent reports from you against one user can cause your reporting privileges to be permanently revoked. It, in effect, gets you on staff's ignore list. So, ignore works best against internet trolls, is best for your mental health and probably keeps you blood pressure down, and is better for keeping your account in good standing.
Why even bother to report, if we are being punished for reporting issues like the one Sandy describe?
I used to respect the Staff who handled the report system, until they bashed ME for reporting hate speech, threatenings, etc.
I used to respect the Staff who handled the report system, until they bashed ME for reporting hate speech, threatenings, etc.
bluesmanSF, Champion
Dan Dassow, Champion
Sandy,
I've reviewed a number of this user's posts. He is definitely trolling in the "Betrayal" message board, but does not appear to be causing problems elsewhere. Responding to a troll and telling them that you will report them is a VERY bad idea. Some of what you posted in response is at best borderline.
Please do not engage in flame wars.
Please place this user on ignore.
I've reviewed a number of this user's posts. He is definitely trolling in the "Betrayal" message board, but does not appear to be causing problems elsewhere. Responding to a troll and telling them that you will report them is a VERY bad idea. Some of what you posted in response is at best borderline.
Please do not engage in flame wars.
Please place this user on ignore.
We have a poster: http://www.imdb.com/user/ur50944780/
He is trolling on our board. People are starting to avoid it as a result. He is place on ignore, but is still trolling despite the fact I have not spoken to him in over 2 days. Everyone else is tired of him hijacking the boards and turning every topic into his flame wars. Can someone delete all his troll posts?
He is trolling on our board. People are starting to avoid it as a result. He is place on ignore, but is still trolling despite the fact I have not spoken to him in over 2 days. Everyone else is tired of him hijacking the boards and turning every topic into his flame wars. Can someone delete all his troll posts?
The board in question is here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097647/b...
bluesmanSF, Champion
sliat,
Please stop flooding the board with the same message. It's also a violation of the terms and conditions of the site. So, along with engaging in troll flame wars, you're just as much a problem as those you complain about.
Again, use the report system in place and stop reporting abuse here as it's not the correct way to report it.
Thanks
(Did you even read the post to which you're replying??)
Please stop flooding the board with the same message. It's also a violation of the terms and conditions of the site. So, along with engaging in troll flame wars, you're just as much a problem as those you complain about.
Again, use the report system in place and stop reporting abuse here as it's not the correct way to report it.
Thanks
(Did you even read the post to which you're replying??)
(Edited)
Thanks very much for your reply and for the information. I know you're trying to help me out so that I stay in good standing here; however, in a situation like this, the issue (for me) isn't how I feel (or even staying in good standing). For me, the issue is that this person needs to be banned to prevent them from saying the same thing to someone else. You used the word "disciplined." Are you saying they might not be banned for saying something like that - even if that post was reported?
Thanks again!
Thanks again!
bluesmanSF, Champion
Yes. People don't get "banned" as that's impossible. Further, they wouldn't simply at your request.
Keep in mind, trolls simply seek attention. By baiting one into an argument, so you can report him, you're causing the problem and more work for staff. They'd more likely remove your report privilege, raise your post quota or remove your authentication status, causing you to need to re-authenticate your account with new ID. They used to "ban" by disabling an account. That just led to trolls creating a new account. Or, they could have blocked an IP address. A user can now simply change an IP address or they likely share connections, causing others to be banned for no reason. Now they use authentication as I've described.
Keep in mind, trolls simply seek attention. By baiting one into an argument, so you can report him, you're causing the problem and more work for staff. They'd more likely remove your report privilege, raise your post quota or remove your authentication status, causing you to need to re-authenticate your account with new ID. They used to "ban" by disabling an account. That just led to trolls creating a new account. Or, they could have blocked an IP address. A user can now simply change an IP address or they likely share connections, causing others to be banned for no reason. Now they use authentication as I've described.
