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http://www.imdb.com/user/ur36748594/b...
has been terrorizing the Religion board for several months now, setting himself up as a self-appointed moderator, using his sock accounts and circle of friends to gang-report posters whose opinions he does not like. (Examples:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t... )
He has also carried his vendetta onto the Get Satisfaction board:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
...and boasted about what he's doing on the Religion board:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
He has centered in on trying to have this one poster banned because the poster in question is homosexual (the serial reporter hates gays, and offensively trolls continuously on the subject (examples:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t... )
In his complaints, he characterizes posts as being "anti-Christian" or "anti-religion"; these are merely differences of opinion, to which the Religion board should be open to discuss. If this poster doesn't like the opinions expressed, he should put the users in question on ignore. Many have pleaded with him to do this. But he has steadfastly refused to do this, and instead advocates gang-reporting, organizing it amongst the board's Christian posters. He has had a great deal of success at getting posts, threads, and posting histories deleted, and sees no reason to stop doing it. Is there anything that can be done about his organized abuse of the 'Report' function in order to bully other posters?
has been terrorizing the Religion board for several months now, setting himself up as a self-appointed moderator, using his sock accounts and circle of friends to gang-report posters whose opinions he does not like. (Examples:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t... )
He has also carried his vendetta onto the Get Satisfaction board:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
...and boasted about what he's doing on the Religion board:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
He has centered in on trying to have this one poster banned because the poster in question is homosexual (the serial reporter hates gays, and offensively trolls continuously on the subject (examples:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t... )
In his complaints, he characterizes posts as being "anti-Christian" or "anti-religion"; these are merely differences of opinion, to which the Religion board should be open to discuss. If this poster doesn't like the opinions expressed, he should put the users in question on ignore. Many have pleaded with him to do this. But he has steadfastly refused to do this, and instead advocates gang-reporting, organizing it amongst the board's Christian posters. He has had a great deal of success at getting posts, threads, and posting histories deleted, and sees no reason to stop doing it. Is there anything that can be done about his organized abuse of the 'Report' function in order to bully other posters?
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Posted 7 years ago
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The poster in question has lots of socks, more than can be identified. Here's one, again trolling on the subject of homosexuality:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/n...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/n...
Michelle, Official Rep
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Hi Ishtari_Illuvatar -
Please use the Report Abuse feature to report these posts.
For more information, please refer to http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?bo...
Thank you
Please use the Report Abuse feature to report these posts.
For more information, please refer to http://www.imdb.com/help/show_leaf?bo...
Thank you
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As I said he would, the serial reporter has found this thread and commented here, feigning approval. But on the Religion board, he's preparing retaliation:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
And he's pretending that he didn't have thefleetsin's account wiped:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
He uses his biography as "testimonials" to those who have commented on what he's been doing. He is proud of it.
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur36748594/b...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
And he's pretending that he didn't have thefleetsin's account wiped:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
He uses his biography as "testimonials" to those who have commented on what he's been doing. He is proud of it.
http://www.imdb.com/user/ur36748594/b...
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An IMDb user cannot 'wipe' an account. Only a site administrator can do this. So if he is 'pretending' not to have 'wiped' an account, well he is not pretending at all. He is telling the truth. The troll 'f_l_e_e_t_s_i_n' seems to have removed his own account from the site, which is his right to do. No doubt he was less than pleased his horrid 'poetry' was rightfully removed by moderators.
I am not defending the troll Discerning-Tasteful. I think he can be as disruptive a presence as you do. But your latest accusations here are speculative at best.
It seems you are willing to tolerate obscene and offensive 'poetry' posted ad infinitum, but a user who annoys you with his offhand and irreverent nonsense you wish 'wiped'
You have a rather skewed view of what does and does not breach site rules and regulations
I am not defending the troll Discerning-Tasteful. I think he can be as disruptive a presence as you do. But your latest accusations here are speculative at best.
It seems you are willing to tolerate obscene and offensive 'poetry' posted ad infinitum, but a user who annoys you with his offhand and irreverent nonsense you wish 'wiped'
You have a rather skewed view of what does and does not breach site rules and regulations
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Sweetie, the 'Report Abuse' feature doesn't work for me - there's no result apart from my putting them on ignore. Their posts and threads remain. I have evidently exceeded the number of times I can use it. And me placing them on ignore doesn't stop them from gang-reporting me and others, which has been demonstrated again and again to be completely effective for them. No one understands how they manage not to be eventually ignored by the automated function, but they do. And every time they manage to destroy a poster's history, they crow over it, starting thread after thread with different sock accounts, talking about it. If by chance someone does get them deleted, they return within a few minutes, starting the same threads over again afresh, and reporting in retaliation.
I suppose the poster they've made their pet project to report is just screwed, as are the rest of us.
There's no 'satisfaction' to be gotten here - and my having stuck my neck out here will have its consequences, since the serial reporter hangs out here. He will find this thread, and retaliate broadly at the Religion board.
I suppose the poster they've made their pet project to report is just screwed, as are the rest of us.
There's no 'satisfaction' to be gotten here - and my having stuck my neck out here will have its consequences, since the serial reporter hangs out here. He will find this thread, and retaliate broadly at the Religion board.
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Can you please delete this thread?
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The results of the abuse report system are not always "seen." There is a progressive system of handling abusers. You don't see, for example, when a user's authentication is removed and they have to borrow Mom's credit card to continue. He then has fewer remaining ways to authenticate.
You report button may not work any more if you've repeatedly reported the same user. His status gets worse and worse as he's reported by different people and less affected by one person repeatedly reporting.
If it's you giving him the most attention, it's you getting him to do it more and more. What you should do is report once, then put him on ignore. Let it go and move on. He's trying to upset people. Giving him attention and posting to him and about him gets him to do it more because what he's doing is working.
Let the system work the way it's designed and report and ignore. Otherwise, you affect your own status in a negative way. Also, progressive disciplinary actions will take over and he'll start getting deletions, then see his post quota go WAY up giving him fewer chances to post, then authentication removed, giving him fewer ways to re-register...then he'll get bored and move on or be unable to re-authenticate.
You report button may not work any more if you've repeatedly reported the same user. His status gets worse and worse as he's reported by different people and less affected by one person repeatedly reporting.
If it's you giving him the most attention, it's you getting him to do it more and more. What you should do is report once, then put him on ignore. Let it go and move on. He's trying to upset people. Giving him attention and posting to him and about him gets him to do it more because what he's doing is working.
Let the system work the way it's designed and report and ignore. Otherwise, you affect your own status in a negative way. Also, progressive disciplinary actions will take over and he'll start getting deletions, then see his post quota go WAY up giving him fewer chances to post, then authentication removed, giving him fewer ways to re-register...then he'll get bored and move on or be unable to re-authenticate.
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It's tempting to dismiss this fellow as a basement troll with his mom's credit card, but this one is not like that; he's got an unlimited amount of resources to revalidate, and has been doing so for many years. He will never be unable to re-authenticate.
Two months ago, when he began his campaign here against thefleetsin,
( https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi... )
his username was originally Adam_Lewis. Once a poster discovered the Get Satisfaction post and drew attention to it on the Religion board, Lewis immediately altered his Get Satisfaction name to 'Christian_and_proud' - the same one you see replying to this thread, pretending to be a Get Satisfaction administrator. But the name Adam_Lewis marked him as one of IMDb's most longstanding board terrorists:
http://www.actwon.com/imdb/profiles_a...
http://www.actwon.com/imdb/profiles_h...
...one with hundreds of identities over several years. Note the overlap between variant "Lewis" posters and "He_Cant" variants. This person floods the boards he takes over with his own identities, and terrorizes board communities through impersonation and abuse of the Report function. Under normal circumstances, a typical poster can only use the Report function against a given target so many times before the system stops responding. This person has nearly unlimited resources to report using unrelated sock accounts, with separate IP addresses and multiple validation methods. This has enabled him to impersonate an administrator and hold boards hostage, deleting anyone he doesn't like at will, destroying and dividing board communities. Many abandon their boards; still others make sycophants of themselves, trying to ally themselves with him to earn his favor and avoid his wrath. Several regular Religion board posters have made themselves his instruments, helping him play his game of "Who deserves to be deleted on this board" threads, and helping report those who are nominated. These are unilaterally conservative Christians, who happen to share Lewis's antagonism towards progressives and gays. The Religion board is not his only target on IMDb; he's doing what he does on several of them, including 'Prometheus.'
Among the replies and remarks on this thread, the main troll under discussion, Discerningly_Tasteful himself, is claiming that I am "willing to tolerate obscene and offensive 'poetry' posted ad infinitum, but a user who annoys you with his offhand and irreverent nonsense you wish 'wiped'". Unlike him, I am not here complaining about poster content; I am perfectly happy to use the ignore function as it becomes necessary. I am here complaining about a serial reporter who has systematically and successfully manipulated the board system to his own advantage, wiping other posters' content.
His above reply that he's "not defending the troll Discerning-Tasteful. I think he can be as disruptive a presence as you do. But your latest accusations here are speculative at best" is a pretense. If that were at all true, what I'm saying would be 'no harm, no foul' and unworthy of his attention. In claiming "An IMDb user cannot 'wipe' an account. Only a site administrator can do this. So if he is 'pretending' not to have 'wiped' an account, well he is not pretending at all. He is telling the truth. The troll 'f_l_e_e_t_s_i_n' seems to have removed his own account from the site, which is his right to do. No doubt he was less than pleased his horrid 'poetry' was rightfully removed by moderators" is also a lie, as demonstrated by his further attack on thefleetsin a week ago:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
He's parroting what he was told in that question as though he were saying it under his own authority as a Get Satisfaction administrator, as he remarked to Jim Smith below, referring to "Michelle, Craig or I." If he is an administrator, then he has seriously gone off the reservation and is abusing his authority.
On the Religion board, Discerningly-Tasteful continues his dialog with his sock puppets, trying to spin damage control:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
Two months ago, when he began his campaign here against thefleetsin,
( https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi... )
his username was originally Adam_Lewis. Once a poster discovered the Get Satisfaction post and drew attention to it on the Religion board, Lewis immediately altered his Get Satisfaction name to 'Christian_and_proud' - the same one you see replying to this thread, pretending to be a Get Satisfaction administrator. But the name Adam_Lewis marked him as one of IMDb's most longstanding board terrorists:
http://www.actwon.com/imdb/profiles_a...
http://www.actwon.com/imdb/profiles_h...
...one with hundreds of identities over several years. Note the overlap between variant "Lewis" posters and "He_Cant" variants. This person floods the boards he takes over with his own identities, and terrorizes board communities through impersonation and abuse of the Report function. Under normal circumstances, a typical poster can only use the Report function against a given target so many times before the system stops responding. This person has nearly unlimited resources to report using unrelated sock accounts, with separate IP addresses and multiple validation methods. This has enabled him to impersonate an administrator and hold boards hostage, deleting anyone he doesn't like at will, destroying and dividing board communities. Many abandon their boards; still others make sycophants of themselves, trying to ally themselves with him to earn his favor and avoid his wrath. Several regular Religion board posters have made themselves his instruments, helping him play his game of "Who deserves to be deleted on this board" threads, and helping report those who are nominated. These are unilaterally conservative Christians, who happen to share Lewis's antagonism towards progressives and gays. The Religion board is not his only target on IMDb; he's doing what he does on several of them, including 'Prometheus.'
Among the replies and remarks on this thread, the main troll under discussion, Discerningly_Tasteful himself, is claiming that I am "willing to tolerate obscene and offensive 'poetry' posted ad infinitum, but a user who annoys you with his offhand and irreverent nonsense you wish 'wiped'". Unlike him, I am not here complaining about poster content; I am perfectly happy to use the ignore function as it becomes necessary. I am here complaining about a serial reporter who has systematically and successfully manipulated the board system to his own advantage, wiping other posters' content.
His above reply that he's "not defending the troll Discerning-Tasteful. I think he can be as disruptive a presence as you do. But your latest accusations here are speculative at best" is a pretense. If that were at all true, what I'm saying would be 'no harm, no foul' and unworthy of his attention. In claiming "An IMDb user cannot 'wipe' an account. Only a site administrator can do this. So if he is 'pretending' not to have 'wiped' an account, well he is not pretending at all. He is telling the truth. The troll 'f_l_e_e_t_s_i_n' seems to have removed his own account from the site, which is his right to do. No doubt he was less than pleased his horrid 'poetry' was rightfully removed by moderators" is also a lie, as demonstrated by his further attack on thefleetsin a week ago:
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topi...
He's parroting what he was told in that question as though he were saying it under his own authority as a Get Satisfaction administrator, as he remarked to Jim Smith below, referring to "Michelle, Craig or I." If he is an administrator, then he has seriously gone off the reservation and is abusing his authority.
On the Religion board, Discerningly-Tasteful continues his dialog with his sock puppets, trying to spin damage control:
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000108/t...
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I don't know whether to feel sorry for you or stifle a laugh. That is some serious delusion you have pumping there, Ishtari.
I am not going to bother refuting your ridiculous claims because that will dignify them (and because I don't have 3-4 hours to throw at it)
I will simply say that it may be time you perhaps thought about another way to spend your time. The internet does not seem to be agreeing with you. The cheese has slid off your cracker.
Jim
I am not going to bother refuting your ridiculous claims because that will dignify them (and because I don't have 3-4 hours to throw at it)
I will simply say that it may be time you perhaps thought about another way to spend your time. The internet does not seem to be agreeing with you. The cheese has slid off your cracker.
Jim
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Well said Ishtari. They are vile trolls and it seems moderators have removed them.
You have my gratitude.
Jim
You have my gratitude.
Jim
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It's amazing how topics like this can be classified "not a problem" even after the troll who is the problem posted on this very topic to sarcastically let everyone know nothing can be done because the admins are on his side.
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You are either referring to Michelle, Craig or I.
Or yourself?
Please stop trolling, as you have proven yourself a disrespectful provocateur and paranoid conspiracy theorist on this forum before.
Thanks Jim
Jim.
Or yourself?
Please stop trolling, as you have proven yourself a disrespectful provocateur and paranoid conspiracy theorist on this forum before.
Thanks Jim
Jim.
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Are the people running this site so hopelessly ignorant that you can honestly not see that the idiot "Christian and Proud" is the problem?
bluesmanSF, Champion
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A "problem" needing reporting is, for example, the search function doesn't work. Not "I can't seem to get along with others on the message boards." If you have problems on the message boards, stay off them and use the site, as it's intended...as a film information database.
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So, he gets reported and his posting history is deleted and yet he is still able to post non-stop? What happened to increased posting quotas that are levied against all the posters he reports for no valid reason?
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"Lewis immediately altered his Get Satisfaction name to 'Christian_and_proud' - the same one you see replying to this thread, pretending to be a Get Satisfaction administrator"
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There is nobody "pretending to be an admin" on this thread..
Personally, I think you should ALL step away from the Internet! You're using this site to try to tattle on each other and using the Religion board as some sort of sparring ground.
Are you supposed to be adults? Seriously! I think you ALL need a break from the computer.
Ignore each other! Leave the site for a few weeks and come back with a fresh perspective- It's only the Internet for heavens sake.
If I were an admin, I would ban the entire lot of ya-
I guarantee nobody has the time to read through all of your arguments to figure out this mess.
Grow up! Learn to get along or ignore each other.
The Internet is a VERY BIG place, I'm sure there's room for all of you.
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There is nobody "pretending to be an admin" on this thread..
Personally, I think you should ALL step away from the Internet! You're using this site to try to tattle on each other and using the Religion board as some sort of sparring ground.
Are you supposed to be adults? Seriously! I think you ALL need a break from the computer.
Ignore each other! Leave the site for a few weeks and come back with a fresh perspective- It's only the Internet for heavens sake.
If I were an admin, I would ban the entire lot of ya-
I guarantee nobody has the time to read through all of your arguments to figure out this mess.
Grow up! Learn to get along or ignore each other.
The Internet is a VERY BIG place, I'm sure there's room for all of you.
Emperor, Champion
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Indeed.
I think we can shut this thread down, as it isn't going anywhere good.
I think we can shut this thread down, as it isn't going anywhere good.
bluesmanSF, Champion
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Certainly...when it has upset Pikabu, you know it's gone too far!
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